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Hey I know I'm more of a leech than a seed but I want to start an open discussion / brainstorm about the limited bluetooth capabilities within Android. Specifically on the HTC Dream (G1).
I don't have a strong grasp on Linux but I've been playing with different flavors since i was 13 (11 years). I don't have the knowledge or the support to even attempt this.
HOWEVER I do have a job and I do have the money (donation) to support anyone with the ability and the time.
That being said I would like to talk to anybody who would be Seriously interested in developing additional profiles for the bluetooth stack.
Anyone who has wanted to FTP over bluetooth or for me send my phonebook to my Lexus GS350 I would appreciate donations towards a common goal.
The $ would go to the developer or team. Of course after that it would have to be open source and free to the community.
I have not created a paypal or account for pooling donations but whoever is seriously interested contact me. I've got $300 (donation) to get you started (motivated)
Au Revoir,
-Koocat
how do i make it bold lol
koocat said:
Hey I know I'm more of a leech than a seed but I want to start an open discussion / brainstorm about the limited bluetooth capabilities within Android. Specifically on the HTC Dream (G1).
I don't have a strong grasp on Linux but I've been playing with different flavors since i was 13 (11 years). I don't have the knowledge or the support to even attempt this.
HOWEVER I do have a job and I do have the money (donation) to support anyone with the ability and the time.
That being said I would like to talk to anybody who would be Seriously interested in developing additional profiles for the bluetooth stack.
Anyone who has wanted to FTP over bluetooth or for me send my phonebook to my Lexus GS350 I would appreciate donations towards a common goal.
The $ would go to the developer or team. Of course after that it would have to be open source and free to the community.
I have not created a paypal or account for pooling donations but whoever is seriously interested contact me. I've got $300 (donation) to get you started (motivated)
Au Revoir,
-Koocat
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i'm all about development and hard work, but with the release of blutooth 3.0, wouldn't it be better just to save the $ and put it towards the next android device that is compatible with bt3.0( which utilizes wifi for bt transfer...not to mention the improved battery life). what are your thoughts?
its not about the money. I'm using dudes cupcake rom whatever latest rom .92 and as far as i know there is no way to send my phone book to my Lexus when it prompts me to create a phonebook and because of this I can't use voice dial and nazi lexus basicly won't allow you to input anything while the car is in motion. the specs released on 1.5 only included stereo bluetooth theres still no push allowed or PBA
jaaronmoody said:
i'm all about development and hard work, but with the release of blutooth 3.0, wouldn't it be better just to save the $ and put it towards the next android device that is compatible with bt3.0( which utilizes wifi for bt transfer...not to mention the improved battery life). what are your thoughts?
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would my car even work if bt is trans over wifi spectrum?
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would my car even work if bt is trans over wifi spectrum?
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no, and sorry for the confusion. My point was that this android incarnation is lacking in bluetooth capabilities, and there has just been a new bluetooth technology released, not only having the wifi capability, but also all current profiles. I am sure that android will support this in the future with hardware in a new device, but for now, they are probably content with what they have, since it is an evolving technology.
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i'm all about development and hard work, but with the release of blutooth 3.0, wouldn't it be better just to save the $ and put it towards the next android device that is compatible with bt3.0( which utilizes wifi for bt transfer...not to mention the improved battery life). what are your thoughts?
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Umm, Bluetooth 3.0 standard was just released. We're not going to be seeing any Bluetooth 3.0 devices for another few years, one at the minimum. Not to mention that the OP's Lexus would still require a transfer via Bluetooth 2.0 technology.
I would be content if an open phone with an open platform supported bluetooth features I could actually use.
I manually added one contact into the lexus and manually set the voice rec. and then attempted to call using 'dial by name' and it will only work if the dream is unlocked and awake.
BT 3.0 will be great. but I'd have to get a new phone and depending on the backward capabilities a new car too.
but that brings the question "how long do i have to wait for bt 3.0"
"how long do i have to wait for cupcake"
I was hoping with 1.5 they would expand on the BT stack and they did but not for anything I can use. whats funny is 2 years ago when I had Verizon and a Voyager I thought I was cool to have stereo bluetooth headphones to rock out too. and they want to market stereo bt as being a great new feature but its not new
koocat said:
I would be content if an open phone with an open platform supported bluetooth features I could actually use.
I manually added one contact into the lexus and manually set the voice rec. and then attempted to call using 'dial by name' and it will only work if the dream is unlocked and awake.
BT 3.0 will be great. but I'd have to get a new phone and depending on the backward capabilities a new car too.
but that brings the question "how long do i have to wait for bt 3.0"
"how long do i have to wait for cupcake"
I was hoping with 1.5 they would expand on the BT stack and they did but not for anything I can use. whats funny is 2 years ago when I had Verizon and a Voyager I thought I was cool to have stereo bluetooth headphones to rock out too. and they want to market stereo bt as being a great new feature but its not new
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This is an appropriate place to post issues with supported bt profiles already supported, but there is no guarantee that it will be addressed. i'm not speaking for anybody here, but me... butif it were my build, i probably wouldn't modify it for one make of car. There are other vehicles where this is working...am i right? i think so.
so far i think only broadcom has achieved and are planning to produce the new standard, but how long will it be till we see it??? my guess is 6mo- 1yr. Yes, stereo bluetooth is not a new thing, but i'm sure you can grasp the technology curve. "they" are only gonna release what they have to, in the time that will make sense to them, not the consumers. This
is a business, and will be treated as such. For how many years have we been scratching at the heels of EVERY advancement, just to PURCHASE it as soon as it comes around. edit...but to go along with you i was looking forward to file transfer myself, and it didn't happen.
what can i do on my car to verify the bluetooth version installed?, or bluetooth capabilities if you know what i mean
its a mazda 3 2010 sport
Thank you.
Your exactly right and thats what makes Android such a beautiful thing. Because we are longer governed by whatever corporate timeline 'they' decide. the timeline is to maximize profit. cupcake is marketed as a feature update to show dedication to their product and to their customer base but its not a dedication because they were forced to evolve it to make it compatiable with additonal hardware and minimize the media attention towards custom devleopment and end user modification. Google doesnt want to piss off Apple or HTC or T-mobile or Vodaphone ect because thats business.
Google doesnt care if you transfer over bt they dont care if you mod your phone. but when Apple says no mulitouch and vodaphone says No Bluetooth profiles they don't have much of a choice if they want Android to succeed.
and Thats why they made it open.
same with rooting your phone google had to fix it beacuse if they make it look easy they run into problems. T-mob or voda don't want you to teather your phone and use it as a modem and root allows this. so you must disable and discourage root and tell people its a security risk.
fcuk T-mobile and their G1 bs marketing. My phone is a Dream.
---btw the new radio gives me 3G in my house now wootwoot so i can actually talk on the phone with t-mobiles shi*ty service--- I only left Verizon because phones suck Donkey...Anyways..
its not just one car. go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth to see all supported profiles
there are profiles that all cars support. most likely PBA "phone book access"
I know when the Prius 1st came out I was like 16 or 17 lol and none of VZW phones could send phone book data to the Prius only because VZW policy with phone makers demanded they crimple BT profiles even on smart phones. so you couldn't FTP a mp3 and set it as ur ringtone you had to buy the ringtone for 2.99 or what i did back them I used Bitpim but you get the idea.
-Koocat
alfmetal said:
what can i do on my car to verify the bluetooth version installed?, or bluetooth capabilities if you know what i mean
its a mazda 3 2010 sport
Thank you.
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I would google some keywords and try and find a user forum for Mazda cars.
I know theres clublexus.com where I have learned a lot about my car.
for some Lexus (i know for sure the GS and LS models) you turn the car on, then hold down the INFO button while turning the Lights from OFF to ON four times. and the car enters a Service Diagnostic mode and you can view different settings and run diagnostics, clear error codes and rescan. I know theres a spot to view the bluetooth version and software version. You can adjust the Mic volume, send and recieve volume and adjust voice quality.
You really don't need to adjust your car (thats not what this post is about).
Depending on your car you can get updates from the dealer and you can find software mods online for some cars.
example; lexus had a override in the system menu to allow user input while the car was in motion. IN 07' that option was removed on all models so for my 07 Lexus i found a post from someone that had taken the Nav disc for the same model in 06 and he modded and issued a ISO for users burn to get that override feature back.
-Koocat
Bah! @ Bluetooth 3.0. Totally overhyped standard. Could be completely done with adhoc wifi and would be easier and more than 2x as fast.
[email protected]:
Yeah, it is... It's just a wifi coop mode, which requires both parties to have a wifi-radio free to use...
It's not really an optimization of bluetooth :/
Everyone else in here:
Well, i'm not sure you're gonna catch many devs in here (There doesn't seem to be any
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Bah! @ Bluetooth 3.0. Totally overhyped standard. Could be completely done with adhoc wifi and would be easier and more than 2x as fast.
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Power management is much better in Bluetooth. Combining the two gives the best of both worlds. BT 3.0 will be able to connect, go into low power states and only turn on WiFi if a higher speed transfer is required.
BT 3.0 is more than just BT+WiFi anyway. The ability to have an Alternate Mac-Phy (AMP) like WiFi is one feature. There are other new features as well (like better quality of service). Also, an AMP could be a Ultra Wide Band (UWB) radio, with speeds much higher than WiFi with lower power consumption. The potential for 3.0 is really interesting.
But as others have stated in the thread, it will be a while before there are any implementations. We are just starting to see 2.1 devices in the market.
paesano
I know this is only my 2nd post, but I too am looking for better BT Stack. Dont get me wrong I love that I got back my stereo BT on my Pioneer Avic-D3 but unlike my Nokia N95 and my Tilt which lets me transfer my contacts to my Headunit.
Also another thing I miss is sending contact info from one phone to another!
Waiting for the time I can ditch my ipod and be apple-free LOL
I think a total update of the bluetooth would be cool. I think the 3.0 is a bit away but besides just a specific car profile i think it should be and all around compatible bluetooth. with all the devices and allow file transfer as well something that non g1 phones can already do. I think that alone will make it feel much better until until the newer technology is intergrated. That would probably lean me more to donating
I have two old Motorola RAZR's and they transfer data over BT, it is really surprising that the Dream falls short in this area.
I just miss the very basic file transfer (obex) to move images, mp3, contacts, etc. from device to device. I know I can set up an ftp or webserver to allow phone to phone access, but quite frankly we shouldn't have to use a work around for such a standard phone option. ALso, I like to bluetooth pictures from my phone right to the Kodak picture printer in Walmart and other stores. There is no way to install an FTP server or client on that machine (without some hacking).
I would donate if we had some devs on here taking up the task.
Rick
JackD3ath said:
I have two old Motorola RAZR's and they transfer data over BT, it is really surprising that the Dream falls short in this area.
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Personally, I'm not surprised that the Dream falls short in Bluetooth support. My experience with Bluetooth in Linux has been very unsatisfying. I don't know if that stems from the Blue Z stack, or if no one cares enough to do things properly. The last couple of times I upgraded Ubuntu or Kubuntu, Bluetooth was totally broken, and I had to figure out my own workarounds to get some of the functionality I needed.
What I would currently like to see is DUN support, so that my Tom Tom can access the internet. Very few BT phones don't have DUN, especially on T-Mobile. Makes me wonder why T-Mobile wanted to get the Tethering apps out of the marketplace. You can tether with almost every Bluetooth phone they sell!
paesano
I've had my iPAQ 614c for a little over two years now, and while it has served me incredibly well, and I have no complaints (mostly thanks to this forum making 6.1 and 6.5 upgrades possible) it is really starting to show it's age - physically and technologically.
As such, I'm looking to get a new phone. I've come to the realization that I don't need the absolute best, 100% beast phone, but if that's what my needs dictate, that's cool too.
Must Haves
Great Camera - I would like a camera that takes great pictures, and possibly video, but mostly just great pictures. And I would PREFER it to be able to do so in dark situations (aka, a good flash).
Music Playback - I want it to have a good music playback experience. This means plenty of storage, great sound reproduction, and preferably a 3.5mm jack (not necessary though, I'll use an adapter if i have to.
Good Email - I'd like something that works nicely with email. I have everything (all 6 of my mail accounts) routing into my Gmail address, so whatever will work well with Gmail will be what counts.
Good Battery - I'd prefer it last at least a whole day, instead of the ~1/2 day I'm getting with my current phone. The more the better.
GPS - Of some sort.
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Preferred but not necessary
Unlocked for AT&T - Still in a contract, would prefer not having to ETF (but will if necessary)
Physical Keyboard - I like physical keyboards, preferably just a numpad (non-qwerty) but if it's all touchscreen, I am perfectly fine with that.
Large, high resolution touchscreen - I really don't see a phone not coming with touchscreen under my previous requirements, but I can see it being QVGA like my current phone. Would REALLY like a VGA or better, and would like something greater than 3 inches, but if its not, that's fine.
I am open to any and all suggestions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5254582
Rhodium!!!
The htc TP2 would be good for you...
Hey all, I was wondering if there is something like a music dock for Android phones. Something like the Logitech Pure-Fi Anywhere 2 would look great. Something that has a remote control and communicates with the device (not just headphone jack in). If it works with iProducts then even better.
Suggestions?
If i am not mistaken a new mode was have to be incorporated into android as unlike the iphone that has a dock mode using its cable all the android devices either have mini usb or propriatary jacks that use the same usb specs in a different form factor!!
The best bet would be to use the standard audio jack but sell a bluetooth remote control to go with it, then using a modded open source music player and bluetooth drivers supplied by the dock maker do the functions you have suggested!!
I would buy one!!
Bluetooth remote hey? Haven't seen any around (that would work with android). I'd still prefer a dock like I described since I would then need only one remote control, not two.
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Bluetooth remote hey? Haven't seen any around (that would work with android). I'd still prefer a dock like I described since I would then need only one remote control, not two.
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yeah your way sounds the best, its just getting that feature added to Android as as ASOP so the phone would be able to take commands via usb as it seems it would need to be a system level command chain! so pluggin it in and seeing it popping up saying mass storage, pc suite, charge only and also have an Audio docking option would be the ultimate goal before the docks go into the design room!
Or maybe the dock is bluetooth 2.0 and all it does is hold the phone and charge it? that would take hardly any modification!! these are the ideas that need putting to companies like creative etc!! they should have no bother making models for the HTC ranges! and maybe samsung
No bluetooth please, sound quality over AD2P sucks.
A decent solution would be a standard 3,5mm-connected remote interface, just like on corded Nokia or Apple handsfree; luckily enough SGS's sound quality is decent.
A USB connector would simply be astounding, although quite difficult to implement: remember the iphone has a line out in its bottom connector so a dock is kinda straight-forward to make; going through USB either means rerouting the line out from the DAC (impossible to realize just with software) or creating a standardized driver to connect an external DAC. Read: nobody is gonna do it, as no big company is willing to go through the trouble of making something (very) hi-end only.
*Drools while dreaming of an USB attached DAC/amp*
Considering that most Android phones can connect in USB mode, there could be an external dock that plays the mp3s' on the phone. On the other hand, this makes your phone no different than a flash disk.
Shouldn't there be a protocol for docking this kind of devices? I think phone makers are really losing the game by not creating a protocol for wired music docking, the result is that there is a TON of peripheral for iProducts (from hifi to cars) but almost none for anything else. Crying shame.
In the end a 3.5mm would be the most realistic solution but still, i'd like some sort of remote control.
i would be quite happy with a cable that has a male 3.5mm on one end and a female apple dock connector on the other.
you wouldnt have problems then when you were round at a party and all they got is an ipod dock with no line in.
cant the enterprising chinese come up with a solution?
EDIT**on closer inspection i found that cablejive are doing something called a dock input cable. i would post a link but im not allowed
it may be what im looking for
Didnt seen anything abaut a dock...
However i got this product from Belkin and it works very cool for my intentions.
**cant post since im "new user" tho, google it: "BELKIN bluetooth music receiver F8Z492"
Its just tap 1 button and play the music via bluetooth (A2DP), very nice quality.
I suppose the above are both working solutions, though I don't really like the Dock input cable. I mean, you lose the ability of remote controlling your player and you would use that only with iPod / iPhone enabled hifi systems, which I find redundant (why buy such a hifi system if you have Android? Then again if you already have one, that changes things).
to be honest it wouldnt take much to develope the librarys for the controls through a usb cable, but with no ones builds being asop and a non general development tree with the xda scene as it is, it would be virtually impossible to the get this now very fragmented market of phones to have a standard for docks! heh i might even put this to someone I have consulted for in the US about bluetooth technologys to see what he thinks!
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to be honest it wouldnt take much to develope the librarys for the controls through a usb cable, but with no ones builds being asop and a non general development tree with the xda scene as it is, it would be virtually impossible to the get this now very fragmented market of phones to have a standard for docks! heh i might even put this to someone I have consulted for in the US about bluetooth technologys to see what he thinks!
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I think the idea would best apply to "personal hifi systems". Something like boom-boxes or even small audio systems. These could provide basic functionality through their standard lcd screen and remote control, but when you add a phone on, they'd have a really nice looking screen and new features (depending on the phone itself). Bluetooth can already music-pair with other devices but I think there are better prossiblities using USB (not to mention that your phone would be charging at the same time).
I think it's time for people to stop looking at docking as gimmicky and start developing docking methods that actually add to the user experience as well as functions.
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I think the idea would best apply to "personal hifi systems". Something like boom-boxes or even small audio systems. These could provide basic functionality through their standard lcd screen and remote control, but when you add a phone on, they'd have a really nice looking screen and new features (depending on the phone itself). Bluetooth can already music-pair with other devices but I think there are better prossiblities using USB (not to mention that your phone would be charging at the same time).
I think it's time for people to stop looking at docking as gimmicky and start developing docking methods that actually add to the user experience as well as functions.
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When you think about how many media functions a modern smart phone has its crazy even samsung dont start shipping range specific docks for android devices!
I would love nothing more than my phone being on a dock over night charging! when i wake up to the alarm/custom song/internet radio station i press a button that keeps the music on then pops up todays appointments and meetings on my calendar! Then to top it off a text to speech engine reads out the headers from all my emails before cooking my breakfast and kissing me on the cheek goodbye
someone please make one before christmas time!
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someone please make one before christmas time!
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Unfortunately I think we may have missed Christmas (!!) but I believe there is something in the pipeline from one manufacturer that is developing Android docking solutions for later this year.
Well here is what’s needed by me and by general demand that I noticed:
We need an application that will enable an android device (a tablet for instance) to act as a Bluetooth headset and dialer for another phone
I have searched through the forums but with no luck, all that I found where similar questions but unanswered!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844605
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905938
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868062
So to sum it up I think we need a developer that can help us out also am willing to pay for it or buy it of the market if that’s what it takes
Cheers & thanks in advance
(PS: if this is not the proper place for something like this, please excuse the noob and redirect me to the proper thread)
Please guys. I'am looking to and is also willing to pay for it.
I'm also willing to pay for the application. Please someone help us?
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come on guys... any thing?!?
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this should be a default feature for android...
I have been asking for the same thing, Moscow Desire is looking into it with LeeDroid to try and implement something by porting it from a phone I think...I'm waiting on pins and needles.
The thread on it is here, the last couple pages:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23447188&posted=1#post23447188http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23447188&posted=1#post23447188
It's not what we're looking for.
In the thread they are trying to get bluetooth headsets to work on a tablet.
We are looking for an app that can get a tablet to connect to a phone and make calls.
For example, I have my tablet built into my car and connectet to my car radio via cable. It would be nice if it could make and receive calls.
Bluetooth dialer
simonmbjornes said:
It's not what we're looking for.
In the thread they are trying to get bluetooth headsets to work on a tablet.
We are looking for an app that can get a tablet to connect to a phone and make calls.
For example, I have my tablet built into my car and connectet to my car radio via cable. It would be nice if it could make and receive calls.
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Hi! I have been searching for the same solution from months but the onle thing i have found is,
"dealextreme.com/p/minipad-a9-1-lcd-bluetooth-dialer-headset-white-94840"
so untill any developer work on true bluetooth applitacation which can fulfill our needs this is the only thing we can use.
I started a thread on this then discovered that it's been asked plenty of times before. After doing research I have discovered the following things:
1) It is possible to replace the Bluetooth stack on Android
2) We would have to make Android play the role of the hands free and not an audio gateway
3) This has been implemented - http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bluetooth-hands-free-car-kits/parrot-asteroid
4) The stack on Android is BlueZ
5) The devs at Cyanogen mod have been working with the Android Bluetooth stack
From what I can see, we would have to modify the Hands-Free Profile in the Bluez stack to play the hands-free role. If we could somehow load in another profile or edit the existing one, that might do the trick. I'm not too familiar with Bluetooth, but I will be going over code tonight to see if I can come up with an idea.
touchpad webos has this capibility
I have a hp touchpad with cynogenmod 9 that dual boots to webos. In webos, i can link via bluetooth to my blackberry phone. I can call and receive via a dialer app in webos. I have not been able to figure out how to do this on the android boot. I can pair the device but haven't figured out how to do in android. Hoping since wedos went open there might be an app for android to mirror the webos capibility.
I've posted support for this development in a number of forums and in other threads here at XDA. This would be a huge deal for the 'android-as-car-stereo' idea. There are a number of suppliers that make USB-->DAC-->RCA(composite) converters, and that takes the shoddy internal DAC out of the equation for most tablets. All that is left is the need for bluetooth call transfers to the tablet.
hopefull news
people check this out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyandroid.phonelink
its to connect between tablet and android phone hopefully this might lead somewhere!!
I have a Bluetooth transmitter (B-Speech RTX1) attached to my AV-receiver and want to use my phone with headphones as a speaker system. There has to be an app that plays the stream once we can connect a transmitter via HFP profile with the phone I guess...
I don't know if my wish is related to this thread, but there is a thread explaining how to enable HFP in Android by editing the "audio.conf".
I get the new options but am not able to connect the transmitter to my phone. I guess I will have to buy BT-headphones...
I too am looking for this service to be done (using my tablet in my dash of my car connected to my amp's/speakers). Another post for this can be seen here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844605
I just tried the method posted in the link above by hudl.. but it didn't work. My tablet still pairs with my phone like before, no way to connect them, nor the "use for phone audio" option from my phone to the tablet. :-( Still no solution as of yet.
I think this might work for ya
I haven't tried it yet, but am downloading it now. After much searching I think this is what we've been looking for.
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I haven't tried it yet, but am downloading it now. After much searching I think this is what we've been looking for.
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I'd love to see this and would happily pay towards development of this. Parrot Asteroid seems to handle incoming HFP, HSP and A2DP profiles very well. I too have modified the audio.conf file and can also see the additional options.. My phone just doesn't know what to do with it!
Is there anyone who can point this thread in the right direction? It's the only piece of the puzzle left for android carpc tablet goodness.
Thanks,
MrNorm
Just reviving interest in this thread again as tablets in cars are becoming more and more common.
Checking if any developer is still willing to help out, I am sure there are plenty of willing users waiting with their wallets ready
Cheers
Mario
Parrot did it for sure. It would be an awesome feature. I wish things just worked like that by default... someone needs to re-invent a BT-like connection where everything on a device is exposed... a phone should be a BT keyboard/mouse/airmouse/headset/speaker/monitor/camera/drive/sdreader/modem/gps/serial-console/etc as well as being on the opposite end of each of those things. And without needing a separate app for each of those things that is even possible/created.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/18/using-the-galaxy-player-3-6-as-a-bluetooth-handset/
If we could use Samsungs work in this player we could easily implement it.
I was given a car stereo for a present . best present ever .
Its a duel operating system android wince
It was all working correctly for about a month then the android part became faulty.
it comes up with a error message .
bonovoHandle has stopped . when this comes up after booting the screen dulls
you can press ok but then it does the same thing.
I have had many attempts in contacting Newsmy but not one single reply. the ebay shop it was purchased from has closed down .
the windows part works well just the android is dead. I think if I was able to get firmware for it I could fix it but cant find that anywhere .
I really appreciate any help . links or advice . This website has been a big help amongst my friends but this android stereo has us all beat. Until it died this stereo was the best thing since sliced bread. Big thankyou for any help
Mr Winter said:
I was given a car stereo for a present . best present ever .
Its a duel operating system android wince
It was all working correctly for about a month then the android part became faulty.
it comes up with a error message .
bonovoHandle has stopped . when this comes up after booting the screen dulls
you can press ok but then it does the same thing.
I have had many attempts in contacting Newsmy but not one single reply. the ebay shop it was purchased from has closed down .
the windows part works well just the android is dead. I think if I was able to get firmware for it I could fix it but cant find that anywhere .
I really appreciate any help . links or advice . This website has been a big help amongst my friends but this android stereo has us all beat. Until it died this stereo was the best thing since sliced bread. Big thankyou for any help
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hey,i saw your thread in newsmy forum,
i think you needs a firmware to get your carpad reborn...
ok,i've found one for you.
here is the update image:Kitkat 4.4.2 for AD3188,800x480 model.if your HU is 1024x600,don't use this.
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1kTso5AR
and this is a flash tool for PC,no Mac,you know..
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1eQu0IQm
method to enter flash mode:
1.powered your android box
2.connect it to your computer
3.if you can see that software's first gray box turns pink,you got it.
or
1.unplug the power cable
2.press down the reset button
3.don't release it ,plug in the power cable.
4.you will get the pink box.
br,
zygame
zygame said:
hey,i saw your thread in newsmy forum,
i think you needs a firmware to get your carpad reborn...
ok,i've found one for you.
here is the update image:Kitkat 4.4.2 for AD3188,800x480 model.if your HU is 1024x600,don't use this.
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1kTso5AR
and this is a flash tool for PC,no Mac,you know..
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1eQu0IQm
method to enter flash mode:
1.powered your android box
2.connect it to your computer
3.if you can see that software's first gray box turns pink,you got it.
or
1.unplug the power cable
2.press down the reset button
3.don't release it ,plug in the power cable.
4.you will get the pink box.
br,
zygame
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Thankyou for your help. I have the high resolution android car pad . could you please help me find software for hi resolution version . I am sorry I do not speak or read Chinese and the download links are hard for me. Is there any English sites please . very great full for your help.
Mr Winter said:
Thankyou for your help. I have the high resolution android car pad . could you please help me find software for hi resolution version . I am sorry I do not speak or read Chinese and the download links are hard for me. Is there any English sites please . very great full for your help.
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1024x600's latest firmware is: AD3188_S_KK4.4.2_1.0.3_1024x600
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1hquw37A
Update tool is:
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1eQu0IQm
Sorry I can't upload them to mega or somewhere,because my network have a very-low bandwidth to upload.
I'll let you know how to download it at baidu disk.
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And then you should unzip them all and open the update tool.
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So,the last thing you should do is connect the carpad to your computer and wait the software connect it.
if not ,you can plugin the power cord and press the reset button for 5 sec to enter the flash mode.
good luck
I also have a Newsmy Carpad II on a Ford Focus. It also have WinCE and Android box.
And no: the customer service is not able to answer your questions. They can only sell but not follow the customers.
I dont know chinese, and with translators I cannot register to their forum /bbs (btw how did you? I saw your post)
My systen have many bugs ( FM radio RDS, not functioning, volume that sometimes raise to full or drop to zero after a single tap) and now the backlight of dash is disappeared.
At the beginning I had contact with skype, now they are not aswering at all..
Cruiser_541239 said:
I also have a Newsmy Carpad II on a Ford Focus. It also have WinCE and Android box.
And no: the customer service is not able to answer your questions. They can only sell but not follow the customers.
I dont know chinese, and with translators I cannot register to their forum /bbs (btw how did you? I saw your post)
My systen have many bugs ( FM radio RDS, not functioning, volume that sometimes raise to full or drop to zero after a single tap) and now the backlight of dash is disappeared.
At the beginning I had contact with skype, now they are not aswering at all..
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Mr Winter said:
I was given a car stereo for a present . best present ever .
Its a duel operating system android wince
It was all working correctly for about a month then the android part became faulty.
it comes up with a error message .
bonovoHandle has stopped . when this comes up after booting the screen dulls
you can press ok but then it does the same thing.
I have had many attempts in contacting Newsmy but not one single reply. the ebay shop it was purchased from has closed down .
the windows part works well just the android is dead. I think if I was able to get firmware for it I could fix it but cant find that anywhere .
I really appreciate any help . links or advice . This website has been a big help amongst my friends but this android stereo has us all beat. Until it died this stereo was the best thing since sliced bread. Big thankyou for any help
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I'm sorry to hear about these issues, these Carpad II units look very interesting but there is very little information out there about them. Anyone with one of these units, could you answer these questions:
1) Do steering wheel controls work in Android, or only in WinCE?
2) Can you listen to the radio (WinCE I assume) and run an Android app simultaneously? So say listen to the radio and also run the Waze gps app with voice prompts. How does it handle the audio mixing?
3) What is the boot time? From ignition to radio playing. I have a pure android unit now but the boot time is slow. I understand WinCE is much faster, and I hope the radio would start playing while the android system is still booting up.
Thanks!
Skitals said:
I'm sorry to hear about these issues, these Carpad II units look very interesting but there is very little information out there about them. Anyone with one of these units, could you answer these questions:
1) Do steering wheel controls work in Android, or only in WinCE?
2) Can you listen to the radio (WinCE I assume) and run an Android app simultaneously? So say listen to the radio and also run the Waze gps app with voice prompts. How does it handle the audio mixing?
3) What is the boot time? From ignition to radio playing. I have a pure android unit now but the boot time is slow. I understand WinCE is much faster, and I hope the radio would start playing while the android system is still booting up.
Thanks!
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The unit is very interesting and powerful, the fact you can't talk with the support is ridiculous because sometimes a problem can go away in 5 minutes of skype talks..
1) Only in WInCE. But not sure of your question.
2) Yes you can. WinCE have different volume levels (media, radio, phone, video ..) but all the audio in Android environment is streamed in the MEDIA channel of WinCE. You can still control single volumes in Android.
This is not so bad, but there is only a problem: music stream doesn't drop down during speech of navigators in Android.
3) Boot time is longer than OEM equipment of corse. First to be ready is WinCE with all the media and canbus sections. Radio (if on before last power off) start immediately. Android double the time. I use it for Sygic Navigator, and Google Maps navigation (the best because always up to date and with real time traffic)
Dont buy one
Skitals said:
I'm sorry to hear about these issues, these Carpad II units look very interesting but there is very little information out there about them. Anyone with one of these units, could you answer these questions:
1) Do steering wheel controls work in Android, or only in WinCE?
2) Can you listen to the radio (WinCE I assume) and run an Android app simultaneously? So say listen to the radio and also run the Waze gps app with voice prompts. How does it handle the audio mixing?
3) What is the boot time? From ignition to radio playing. I have a pure android unit now but the boot time is slow. I understand WinCE is much faster, and I hope the radio would start playing while the android system is still booting up.
Thanks!
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my car has no steering wheel buttons other than horn so I don't know , but if you buy one which I suggest you don't as this one worked just for a month and because I am overseas, china newsmy want nothing to do with me . they advertise it has can bus controls for some major brands. Newsmy HAS NO CUSTOMER SERVICE.
Still not working .
zygame said:
1024x600's latest firmware is: AD3188_S_KK4.4.2_1.0.3_1024x600
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1hquw37A
Update tool is:
http#//pan.baidu.com/s/1eQu0IQm
Sorry I can't upload them to mega or somewhere,because my network have a very-low bandwidth to upload.
I'll let you know how to download it at baidu disk.
View attachment 2951120
View attachment 2951121
And then you should unzip them all and open the update tool.
View attachment 2951125
So,the last thing you should do is connect the carpad to your computer and wait the software connect it.
if not ,you can plugin the power cord and press the reset button for 5 sec to enter the flash mode.
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I found some usefull links for car pad owners but mine is not accepting firmware upgrade . I get the pink box but then I get red tex telling me firmware will not load error. and pink box never flashes yellow I am thinking I have the wrong firmware version. I will try others . downloads are slow and often time out so I have to download again . will keep trying.
I cant tell what firmware I need , I don't have the box anymore and it never came with English instructions so I tossed them away. All I can tell you is written inside the pure android box is this. AD3188-JB4.22-CARPAD-1.0.0 THEN IN PEN IT HAS -79 . thankyou for your help
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links
I still cant post links and I am still on a 5 minute restriction
Mr Winter said:
I still cant post links and I am still on a 5 minute restriction
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still the same
Mr Winter said:
still the same
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no change.. newsmy car stereo is no good.
I managed somehow to subscribe and post 3/4 questions on their chinese forum.
I obtained a couple of posts from another user (useful for the specific topic), and stop. No one from Newsmy answered in a week.
At this point I just have to hope that the Carpad will never break, and take back my unanswered questions.
For this reasons I strongly discourage anyone from outside China to buy a product newsmy.
In Italy I am a moderator in a forum community of the same vehicle of mine.
There was a lot of waiting for the reviews on this product, others would follow me to the purchase of Carpad probably. Now it will not happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525
In here we are very happy with this unit!
What's wrong with your products？I am summer from Newsmy,maybe i can help you.
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which model？ who sell to you？ and what is your problem？
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Hi Summer,
my unit came from tradesolution.hk,
images and serial number in attachment.
I have differents issues, here are some:
RADIO SECTION->
- 80% of the FM stations I get them in MONO;
- FM "AF" function, is not funcional. I travel to the same cities every days, and with others radio I can keep the same radio stations, with CARPAD I lose the signal. Before I listened always two or three stations and frequencies changed without me lose the signal. With Carpad not happen.
- RDS never received any stream, even if the symbol appears on display;
(FM OEM antenna is connected, in fact, by disconnecting the cable, I do not find any station)
- I cannot scan FM with binded phisical key: only via touchscreen, and this is really useless;
OTHERS->
- I do not have the rear parking sensors, but I have aftermarket rear camera: I correctly get the image on the unit, but without sensors I get a continuos annoying beep and I cannot disable in any way. make a software way to DISABLE it;
- the quality of the microphone in a phone call is very very LOW.. make a software way to allow the use of an auxiliary microphone;
- backlight sometime is off, although in the rest of the dashboard is turned on;
...
I have other problems to list, but for the moment I stop. let's see what happens.
I consider regrettable the fact that the service contact on skype has abandoned me without answer. And from your forum you have locked my account after I asked a few questions.
Summer-Newsmy said:
What's wrong with your products？I am summer from Newsmy,maybe i can help you.
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Hello
I bought a newsmy carpad 2 for my ford focus 1.6 tdci 2010. Unfortunately I became no support from newsmy, althought I wrote severals mails: no answer, no help, nothing. I' m very disappointed! The newsmy carpad 2 is a very good product, but without support from producer Newsmy!!
I explain here my problem one more time with the hope that someone may help me!
I have a problem with the Newsmy Ford Mondeo,Focus 08,S-Max Android 4.2 Capacitive Touch Screen Car Pad 2. The serial number of the DVD Player is: SN E5PCF0018HQ0010 (overseas stock).
I installed the DVD Player. Unfortunately the wheel controls and the backlight of the player don't work. I asked a technician about it. He told me that the DVD player must be configured with the newest firmware of the player and with the software vehicleconfig otherwise the can-bus module of the player cannot work properly with my car. My car is a ford focus 1.6 tdci 2010.
Somebody can help me please??
Thanks in advance!
Roberto
Summer-Newsmy said:
What's wrong with your products？I am summer from Newsmy,maybe i can help you.
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... Where are you Summer ...
We can also take one answer at a time if you want. For example we can begin with:
Is Newsmy really interested in take care of overseas customers, or is a "sell and forget" company?
We really take care of your problem, yoy can add my skype for problems: summer_352.
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Upgraded Android with instruction and image file given:
is it normal ?
I have lost Android Box??
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NEVERMIND! Upgrade succeeded!
This 4.4 Android version is beautiful configured this way on the carpad and I can see a better UI and user experience.
Good work for this upgrade.
In the WinCE section instead, there is still an open issue regarding RDS and its related AF (alternate frequencies) function. This function allow user to travel km and km keeping the same Radio Station tuned. This function is responsible to scan in the background for alternative frequencies of the selected station and transparently switch.
Unfortunately carpad is currently sold as "RDS enabled" but is not fully enabled.
Hope in the future the manufacturer will update this part too.
Many thanks to Summer.
I am going to pass your skype contact other clients I know who are not fully satisfied with the product. I hope you will want to give them some good advice.