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[Q] Message app

Hello all, this may be a basic android question but i am new to andriod (HTC Thunderbolt, unrooted). The messaging app has three tabs: All Messages, SMS/MMS, and Voicemail. I'm assuming the All Messages tab should show not just SMS/MMS but also emails at the very least but all I get there is SMS/MMS. I have had the Mail app set up and working, and also the Gmail app. Also I have FB and Twitter for HTC Sense both set up (not sure if those post should show up there or not. Is there a setting I'm missing or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the Messages app? Trying to use the full functionality of the Thunderbolt. Thanks for your advice.

The all messages folder is supposed to show sms/mms as well as push messages and visual voicemail messages however I have yet to figure out how to get push messages or what services uses these
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SMS Messages that are too long (Sprint)

Hey there,
If I send a message that is too long (like it breaks up into 2 messages after the 1st messages character limit is exceeded), the message will not send. I am using a 3rd party, 8sms, because I don't like utilizing Hangouts as my SMS and chat.
I'm sure they will blame it on me using the 3rd party app, because thats what they did last time I had a problem (not related to this)
Anyone else having this problem? Is it Nexus 5 wide, or just Sprint?
Thank you so much.

gsteelx said:
Hey there,
If I send a message that is too long (like it breaks up into 2 messages after the 1st messages character limit is exceeded), the message will not send. I am using a 3rd party, 8sms, because I don't like utilizing Hangouts as my SMS and chat.
I'm sure they will blame it on me using the 3rd party app, because thats what they did last time I had a problem (not related to this)
Anyone else having this problem? Is it Nexus 5 wide, or just Sprint?
Thank you so much.
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It is doing the same thing when I switch it to Hangouts.
Sprint rep not very helpful. Did a bunch of phone resetting, changing the MSID, etc... to no avail.

gsteelx said:
Hey there,
If I send a message that is too long (like it breaks up into 2 messages after the 1st messages character limit is exceeded), the message will not send. I am using a 3rd party, 8sms, because I don't like utilizing Hangouts as my SMS and chat.
I'm sure they will blame it on me using the 3rd party app, because thats what they did last time I had a problem (not related to this)
Anyone else having this problem? Is it Nexus 5 wide, or just Sprint?
Thank you so much.
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I haven't tried any third-party SMS apps yet because I'm mostly happy with Hangouts, but it really annoys me that I can't even send a text with more than 160 characters. On previous phones, you could set up the messaging app to let you type to your heart's content and have the app automatically split the message up into 160-character texts. In Hangouts, it actually won't let you type more than 160 characters. You have to send the text and then start another one. There's no way that I can find to change this.

maxpower7 said:
I haven't tried any third-party SMS apps yet because I'm mostly happy with Hangouts, but it really annoys me that I can't even send a text with more than 160 characters. On previous phones, you could set up the messaging app to let you type to your heart's content and have the app automatically split the message up into 160-character texts. In Hangouts, it actually won't let you type more than 160 characters. You have to send the text and then start another one. There's no way that I can find to change this.
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Yeah, that is what I meant by it not allowing me to do it on Hangouts either. It is truly annoying as ****. 8SMS is really just like the old messaging that we used to have before these updates. I am overall happy with it, just not with not being able to send a message over 160 characters, because it fails.

Does anyone else have a 3rd party SMS app that they like? I tried another one in the Play Store, but it had heaps of ads pop up after sending a text message... I gave that the swift delete quick!
Thanks for everyones help. This forum rocks!

I tried an app called Textra, just to see if it was 8SMS causing the problem.
Textra did the same thing...

I figured out the problem of why it wouldn't send text messages over 160 characters in 8SMS.
In the older versions of Android, on the messenger, it would automatically change the over 160 SMS to an MMS, and you could keep typing. By default, in 8SMS, this wasn't enabled. I had to enable it in settings.
Problem fixed.
Hopefully anyone who uses 8SMS will find this post. I highly recommend this app. I am not a fan of hangouts for SMS.

This is standard for SMS, some phones trick you into thinking there is no limit by not showing you the count or the limit and automatically combining everything or converting the SMS into another protocol (like imessage)
More info here:
http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/sms/features/sms.html
Specifically from the site:
"The messages are limited by size. An SMS message can’t exceed 160 characters. (BTW this limitation is due to the limitation in the MAP protocol in GSM) In case of longer e-mails or information service messages like news, the messages need to broken down into more than one message. The need to break the messages into several smaller segments could make SMS comparatively costlier in comparison to GPRS (for the same kind of service). Also, This doesn’t look very appealing on a mobile device!
However
MMS (talked about later) would remove the limitation of small messages"
Personally I think in the year 2013/2014 and the technologies we have I'm sure it is possible to change this limitation by introducing a new SMS method or protocol/etc but that requires someone to actually spend the time and money to introduce a new standard that replaces one that has been in place for a very long time

I was having the same issue. There are two options to get long text messages to work on Sprint. I'm also using 8sms (great messaging app, really recommend it over Hangouts).
The first, like someone else stated, is to select the option to convert long messages to picture messages. Make sure you select anything over 1 message long to be converted.
The second option that I discovered is to enable "split counter" in the settings. This will split the texts and send them as consecutives SMS messages without converting them to MMS messages. Hope this helps.

WatchIt notification tips?

I successfully updated my Samsung Galaxy SIII from a 4.1.2 ROM (BoneStock 3.4) to a TW 4.3 ROM (Mother of All ROMs, aka MOAR 7.1). After a few tries (resetting watch, deleting and reinstalling apps, and pairing, unpairing, repairing watch and phone) I was successful at getting the phone and watch to play nice with each other. So I installed WatchIt, gave it permissions on notifications under security. And now WatchIt and the watch is getting notifications. All sorts of notifications... and lots of them.
So I know I can go into my phone, and change preferences and "toasts" (btw, what is the difference between a notification and toast? Are toasts when it tells you to choose a setting, like selecting Switftkey as your keyboard?). Before I mess things up, I thought I would ask the many experts here running WatchIt which apps you disabled notifications (and toasts... what ever they are)?
EDIT: Since there is a really long list of apps to decide whether to ignore, allow notifications, allow toasts, or allow both... is there a faster easier method, eg ignore all, then allowing notifications from just the list of apps or services desired? Sorry if this has been asked and answered already.
It also mentions DayDream as a way to configure... any info and guidance on this would be much appreciated! Also, any apps you think work really well with WatchIt (like... ways to get NBA, NFL, and MLB scores).
Many thanks in advance!!

And I feel dumb replying to my question... but I was able to figure out how to disallow all notifications, then allowing notifications from the apps I wanted. But I must not have it correctly set up, since when I had someone send me a test text message, I only got a WatchIt notification that I received a text message... but not the text message itself on the watch. Did I make a mistake with a setting, either on the phone, the watch, or both?
btw, I found a sports score app on the PlayStore called 365Scores that seems to be very well-reviewed. So hopefully that sends the scores of my favorite teams (selected in the app) to my watch.

Nomad1600 said:
And I feel dumb replying to my question... but I was able to figure out how to disallow all notifications, then allowing notifications from the apps I wanted. But I must not have it correctly set up, since when I had someone send me a test text message, I only got a WatchIt notification that I received a text message... but not the text message itself on the watch. Did I make a mistake with a setting, either on the phone, the watch, or both?
btw, I found a sports score app on the PlayStore called 365Scores that seems to be very well-reviewed. So hopefully that sends the scores of my favorite teams (selected in the app) to my watch.
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You dont need to use watchit for sms. Just use the messaging app from Sony and use watchit only for apps that dont have apps for sw2 and/or you want to receice some notifies.
If you still want to use watchit for sms, have you tried differend setting for it? "show both" (watchit - app setting - sms -> "show both"). Im not sure does it work, I use Sony messaging for sms.
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enigma_x said:
You dont need to use watchit for sms. Just use the messaging app from Sony and use watchit only for apps that dont have apps for sw2 and/or you want to receice some notifies.
If you still want to use watchit for sms, have you tried differend setting for it? "show both" (watchit - app setting - sms -> "show both"). Im not sure does it work, I use Sony messaging for sms.
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First ff, thanks for the reply. And yes, that makes sense, so I had Messaging, Gmail, and any other extension ignored and the only apps that it now receives notifications for is the stock Email app and the new Sports app. I will use the previous extensions I had successfully used when I was on the 4.1.2 ROM. I verified that text messages now go through and pop up on the watch.
I also tried an email... and that didn't. Will I receive the actual emails via WatchIt? If not, will switching to a different email client like K9 work? On the prior ROM, I had my "stock" (Comcast) emails go to my Gmail account, which then was seen by the watch. So worst case I can go back to that approach.
Will any of the notifications (eg from the new sports app) show up on the watch? Not just a "hey, you just got a notification from 365Sports", but the actual score of the game its reporting?
Again, thanks for the help!!

A later update. Seems I can now get email notifications from the phone to the watch via WatchIt... but they seem to come as a group of emails (three or four at a time), only the email title and sender. As such its not as useful as when I was getting my mail routed through Gmail.
And... it appears that the Gmail extension may not work with 4.3 (at least that is what one review of the app in Play Store said). So going from 4.1.2 to 4.3 in order to use WatchIt does not appear to have been a good move.
I will try switching to K9 as my email client and then try the K9 extension. That combo didn't work for me when I was on 4.1.2 (so I instead routed the email to Gmail).
Anyone running a 4.3 ROM and is using WatchIt to get emails via their "stock" Android email client? Any advice or steps I may be missing to get this to see emails? I hate to think I will need to go back to 4.1.2 after all this...

Gosh, this has been a struggle. The Gmail extension does work with my new 4.3 ROM. So here is the work around I came up with. Using Gmail to get the mail from my Comcast account, then it goes to a K9 account on my phone, then to the K9 extension. It appears to catch and display the email on my phone.
Still can't seem to get scores notifications from 365 Sports app.
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Anybody know how to fix the text wrap issue or another app that has that issue fixed
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Latest update... I seem to have gotten WatchIt to work. I have it delivering Sports 365 notifications to the watch (neat app, btw, as it includes a whistle on the phone notification). And, I am getting email notifications, including the full email but only if it only notifies on a single email. If multiple emails come in... they all get notified at once, and only a list of he emails.
Is there something I can do to force it to notify each email separately?
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Multiple SMS Apps at once?

Currently on OPO Cyanogen CM13, 6.0.1
Been having this issue with SMS apps lately, perhaps I'm too picky, but have been looking for a good app that has chat heads and does it as well as Facebook's Messenger.
Now, I believe as of June, Messenger rolled out its new SMS integration allowing you to not only use it for Facebook messaging, but for SMS as well. Great. Too bad I've been so used to the amazing customization of Textra for nearly 2 years.
Messenger is severely lacking so far in terms of customization. It doesn't really jive well with the theme of my phone. (Boohoo right?)
Now, the issue arises in trying to send Facebook SMS and Textra SMS at the same time. Facebook SMS doesn't wake the screen, or have colored icons or chats, something I paid money for to have in textra.
I'm faced with needing to pick a default SMS for the sending app. I can receive notifications on both. But how can I bypass the sending option?
Reason being, I'm willing to part with the base part of textra if I can get the notifications to work, and send my SMS from fb messenger.
Tldr: I want to be able to send SMS from Facebook messenger and textra at the same time without switching default SMS apps.
Or send SMS from fb messenger and receive notifications only on textra.
Here's to never settling.

Google voice Verizon

Anyone else having issues with getting notifications when receiving SMS messages though voice?
I do not get a notification but if I open the app they auto populate and load and finally the voice notification when then show new messages. I switched the app to use the default messaging app and I get the notifications. If I go into the web interface and forward messages to email I get them as well. But the voice app it's self does not notify me of new messages? I know it works because my galaxy would get the notifications and I know background sync is on and running.
Any suggestions? (No root this is a work phone.)

I'd highly recommend you install and use Hangouts for your primary SMS app. The gVoice app is basically just a utility tool to get your gVoice integrated into your dialer and not really meant to be a fantastic SMS app.
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Hangouts is installed by default (at least on Verizon.) Appreciate the comment and thank you.