Smartphones launched for HTC in this year so far - HTC One S

HTC at the begging of this year made a statement which was about "focusing in quality instead of quantity". To me that means that they were going to launch few phones compensating them with high quality, specification, support, etc..
So let's make a list of all the phones HTC has launched so far (maybe will be more, 3 months left)
- HTC one X
- HTC one S
- HTC one S s3 processor (to me its a different phone with same design, tell me if you want me to remove it)
- HTC one V
- HTC EVO 4g LTE
- HTC incredible LTE
- HTC desire X
- HTC desire C
- HTC one X+ (rumors)
- HTC J
- HTC SC
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If there are some more that I have not listed please let me know to add them
HTC please understand that a bunch of "equal" phones is not the solution to success, but the effort you put in each one, so I (and maybe many here) ask you to stop making hundred of similar phones and focus in 1 phone for each market (low, middle, high, phablet, tablet)
you should really invest money in one phone of each market instead of distributing your money in a dozen of equal phones but with different design
For the good of your future, please HTC
"LISTEN TO YOUR LOYAL CUSTOMERS..!"
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Well different markets have different handsets. You have to understand that HTC only sell phones and tablets unlike the likes of Samsung and Apple who have other product lines HTC need to stay competitive.
If they just release one phone per year they stand no chance the Asian markets are emerging markets and people there now are also very much brand conscious, with the likes of Apple and Samsung marketing heavily for their devices.
Just because they release an updated version doesn't mean your handset is outdated, they are seeking new customers and new phones will entice them to take a look at HTCs offerings.
Just my 2 pennies
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nikzDHD said:
Well different markets have different handsets. You have to understand that HTC only sell phones and tablets unlike the likes of Samsung and Apple who have other product lines HTC need to stay competitive.
If they just release one phone per year they stand no chance the Asian markets are emerging markets and people there now are also very much brand conscious, with the likes of Apple and Samsung marketing heavily for their devices.
Just because they release an updated version doesn't mean your handset is outdated, they are seeking new customers and new phones will entice them to take a look at HTCs offerings.
Just my 2 pennies
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but the problem is that they dont launch updated phones, the problem is that they launch new phones with same specifications, and that confuses people. Samsung launch hundred of different phones aswell, BUT only One Flagship with good specifications to rule them all, HTC launch a lot of similar phones with similar specifications instead of investing all that money in ONE good flagship phone

renehd2 said:
but the problem is that they dont launch updated phones, the problem is that they launch new phones with same specifications, and that confuses people. Samsung launch hundred of different phones aswell, BUT only One Flagship with good specifications to rule them all, HTC launch a lot of similar phones with similar specifications instead of investing all that money in ONE good flagship phone
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Kind of like Samsung with their 4-5 variants of the Galaxy S3 and counting?

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Kind of like Samsung with their 4-5 variants of the Galaxy S3 and counting?
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But they are all named galaxy s3 and HTC treat every phone as a different one
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renehd2 said:
but the problem is that they dont launch updated phones, the problem is that they launch new phones with same specifications, and that confuses people. Samsung launch hundred of different phones aswell, BUT only One Flagship with good specifications to rule them all, HTC launch a lot of similar phones with similar specifications instead of investing all that money in ONE good flagship phone
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Yes because they are variants in most cases and they need to stay competitive in a competitive market. HTC have fallen out of the top 5 phone manufacturers recently according to some financial group so they need to push out phones to new users to keep them interested and gain sales.
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Looking to upgrade from desire s.

Well I was looking for an advice , I don't have anyone else to ask so I come here , hope It's okay.
Anyways , I wanted to upgrade from my ds to a sensation xe or galaxy nexus but I was wondering if it is really worth it..
I love the community here , great devs and etc but a small bar on my screen isn't working and its almost impossible to use the phone :/
Now o have few options , either to upgrade either to fix my phone. I like the fact that we are getting ICS..
Any opinions?
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Both those are already old devices. Best look at a HTC One S if you can live with the 16gb internal memory, or the HTC One X if you want the flagship for 2012.
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What do you mean by a small bar isn't working?
Agree with above comments regarding upgrade.
I'd say fix (especially if it could be done cheaply or even better under warranty) and then consider replacing in six months
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You see , my budget is limited to around 400 , 500 dollars at best. (Selling my device and the regular desire )
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i second wnp_79 advice, the HTC One X with its quad-core processor and 1.5gb ram is the one too look out for.
i think the next best thing for you would be the Nexus or could you wait for the Samung Galaxy s3.
All these new phones coming out, its an exciting time for the Android platform!!!
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
I would say go for one s its a superb phone had it for 2 hours with me....
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
What do you mean by "developer phone"?
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
Do what you're saying is that I should stay with the desire s a bit of more time?
I like sense , especially the 4 lite version but I have no problem with the stock android.
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Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
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Turns out that the store is being refurbished, and Samsung is paying for part of it
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If it's not a problem, and you can fix its screen problem cheaply - yes, I think it'll be better. Unless you really want to spend money - in this case, all the One X/S talk is irrelevant, and your options are Sensation or AT&T Galaxy S2 - pick whichever you like.
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mmmcfc said:
The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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Buggy like hell, at least the Sense. It's like saying HD2 has every possible ROM ported to it - true, and they were all in semi-functional state since Froyo - so they're worthless. Much like the current ICS ports all around the MSM8x55-based device forums, which are useful only for people that don't use half of their phones' capabilities. But with a small difference - those devices, at least DHD and DS, will get a fully functional ICS, because it'll be officially released for them, while Nexus devices will most likely never get a stable ROM, if I can judge by what happened until now.
Jack_R1 said:
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
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Aah i see, at first i thought it was a phone for dev only, kinda like for testing purpose. Thank for the info mate.
Arcaneex said:
Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Well i put up my Desire S for sale for 270JDs (about 300$?) and someone offered to exchange mine for his for 80$, not a bad thing i'd say, and i've already had it with this phone =.= (not the desire S itself, just the one i have), so i guess it'll be allright, i just need to find the money now hahaha
i'd like a bigger screen, bigger battery, and i'm a sucker for black/red, also them beats headphones ;D;
although the battery drain will go with the hardware, i think it'll be a bit better than my DS
i think galaxy nexus is a good choice
Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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Made for some interesting reading... appreciate the time taken, and agree with the content therein.

Samsung is Becoming A Monopoly When It Comes to Android Phones

2012 is shaping up to be a good year for Android smartphones, especially in terms of making the jump from dual core devices to quad core architecture. With the release of the HTC One S, the HTC One X, Samsungs Galaxy Nexus (and Note), and the soon to be released Samsung Galaxy S3, consumers will (do) have a lot of options when it comes to purchasing a high end Android device. HTC made the biggest noise with their One line this year at Mobile World Congress, and while demand for the devices is there, not only has their release gotten off to a rocky start in terms of problems, but HTC as a company is reporting all time low profits and revenues. Sony also released their new Xperia line, which are not bad devices specwise, but don't seem to be generating that much consumer buzz.. Same goes for the LG Optimus True HD, as spec-wise it's certainly not a bad phone, but unfortunately consumer interest in the device doesn't seem to be that high.
Samsung, on the other hand, is not only having record sales for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but are selling a solid amount of Notes (over 5 million) Galaxy Nexus phones, and have a very good chance of setting record numbers again when the Galaxy S3 hits the market on May 3rd in London. With HTC, Sony, and LG struggling to gain traction in the smartphone market, Samsung continues to prosper. But the question is why? Why are Samsung winning the game that everyone else seems to be losing?
Is it the hardware/design?
In terms of specs, the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy Note certainly aren't the only devices packing such hardware. In many ways, the newly released (in Europe anyway) HTC One S packs more raw CPU power and camera muscle than all of these devices, and its 8MP camera is one of the best we've ever seen. The HTC Sensation, which came out last year, also had some good specs as well, sporting an 8MP camera and a dual core 1.2ghz processor. The soon to be released LG Optimus True HD is also packing a 1.5ghz processor, an HD display, a gig of RAM, and an 8MP camera as well. So why is the hype for the first quad core phone, the HTC One X, not nearly as high as it is for the Galaxy S3? Why did the HTC Sensation not move 20 or 30 million units like the Galaxy S2? The newest Motorola Razr packed a 1.2 ghz processor, Super Amoled 4.3 display, and an 8MP camera as well. The point I'm trying to make/ask is why are phones with similiar specs not doing nearly as well as the Galaxy S2?
Was it a design thing? I don't think so. In all honestly, I preferred the solid feel of HTC phones over Samsungs more plasticy feel, especially when holding the Galaxy S2 in one hand and the Sensation in the other. If I had to pick an Android skin (which I don't, since I'm always rooted), I would have also picked Sense ANY DAY over Touchwiz. HTC had a lot going for it with the Sensation and Sensation XE, and LG, Sony, and Motorola all had pretty solid designs on their phones with similiar specs as well. So again....why did Samsung have success where others didn't?
Agressive + STYLISH marketing = WIN
I have a few theories. For starters, Samsung got a jump on the competition by releasing the Galaxy S2 back in February of 2011 at MWC. At the time, this was one of the only Android devices that rivaled the iPhone in power (it was actually a lot more powerful). HTC went on to release their dual core device 2 months later, but where HTC failed was in marketing their device. Samsung very aggresively marketed the Galaxy S2, and you can see from the sales numbers that the strategy more than succeeded. That's not to say that HTC didn't market their device at all, but the difference was the WAY Samsung marketed the device. I have honestly never seen an Android phone so aggresively marketed, and Samsung successfully created a STYLISH marketing campaign that you would normally only expect from Apple. The TV commercials were frequent, stylish, and aggressive, and most importantly, stuck in the minds of consumers. It was pretty hard walking around Berlin without seeing a poster of the device somewhere on every street corner, and pretty soon I saw people at the office showing it off.
There are so many ways to market a device, but when it comes to marketing to make a device stick in the minds of consumers, Apple has this down to a fine art. NOBODY markets better than Apple, and Samsung not only realized that, but successfully cloned that style. But when they did it, they tapered it to their own product and their own needs in a way that made it seem a "cool“ must have device.
Some OEM's had too many/ few devices for any to stand out
I'm really hard on HTC, and that's because I have a lot of respect for them. They have made some AMAZING Android devices, and I was the happy owner of a G1, a Nexus One, and Sensation for a long time. In all honesty, I thought that they would become THE Android manufacturer with the biggest numbers. But HTC especially made a big boo boo by overflooding the market with too many devices. There was no way for the public to simply concentrate on one phone, as devices of all names, shapes, and sizes running more or less the same or similiar hardware kept continuously hitting the market. Sure, Samsung didn't have only 1 device either, but they concentrated their efforts on the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2 primarily, and simply forced the public to notice it. HTC's strategy looked good on paper, as they thought by releasing mass quantities of low, mid, and high end smartphones that they would have all price ranges covered for consumers. But the problem is, it's easy to remember 1 or 2 devices. It's really hard to remember 10. Sometimes, less really is more. Other OEMS like Sony and LG however, had fewer devices, but didn't have enough consumer interest generated in them to become game changing phones.
I don't quite understand why wouldn't Google make Motorola their designated device manufacturer. I mean, since Google aquired Motorola there's really nothing stopping them from creating a line of devices that would be fully supported by Google itself. Or not a line, but just two: a smartphone and a tablet, thoroughly designed, tested and promoted. Software updates would surely be available faster than they are now for third party developers.
Great opening post
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Yeah, I also very respect HTC and will stick with it.
CreatioSoft said:
2012 is shaping up to be a good year for Android smartphones, especially in terms of making the jump from dual core devices to quad core architecture. With the release of the HTC One S, the HTC One X, Samsungs Galaxy Nexus (and Note), and the soon to be released Samsung Galaxy S3, consumers will (do) have a lot of options when it comes to purchasing a high end Android device. HTC made the biggest noise with their One line this year at Mobile World Congress, and while demand for the devices is there, not only has their release gotten off to a rocky start in terms of problems, but HTC as a company is reporting all time low profits and revenues. Sony also released their new Xperia line, which are not bad devices specwise, but don't seem to be generating that much consumer buzz.. Same goes for the LG Optimus True HD, as spec-wise it's certainly not a bad phone, but unfortunately consumer interest in the device doesn't seem to be that high.
Samsung, on the other hand, is not only having record sales for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but are selling a solid amount of Notes (over 5 million) Galaxy Nexus phones, and have a very good chance of setting record numbers again when the Galaxy S3 hits the market on May 3rd in London. With HTC, Sony, and LG struggling to gain traction in the smartphone market, Samsung continues to prosper. But the question is why? Why are Samsung winning the game that everyone else seems to be losing?
Is it the hardware/design?
In terms of specs, the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy Note certainly aren't the only devices packing such hardware. In many ways, the newly released (in Europe anyway) HTC One S packs more raw CPU power and camera muscle than all of these devices, and its 8MP camera is one of the best we've ever seen. The HTC Sensation, which came out last year, also had some good specs as well, sporting an 8MP camera and a dual core 1.2ghz processor. The soon to be released LG Optimus True HD is also packing a 1.5ghz processor, an HD display, a gig of RAM, and an 8MP camera as well. So why is the hype for the first quad core phone, the HTC One X, not nearly as high as it is for the Galaxy S3? Why did the HTC Sensation not move 20 or 30 million units like the Galaxy S2? The newest Motorola Razr packed a 1.2 ghz processor, Super Amoled 4.3 display, and an 8MP camera as well. The point I'm trying to make/ask is why are phones with similiar specs not doing nearly as well as the Galaxy S2?
Was it a design thing? I don't think so. In all honestly, I preferred the solid feel of HTC phones over Samsungs more plasticy feel, especially when holding the Galaxy S2 in one hand and the Sensation in the other. If I had to pick an Android skin (which I don't, since I'm always rooted), I would have also picked Sense ANY DAY over Touchwiz. HTC had a lot going for it with the Sensation and Sensation XE, and LG, Sony, and Motorola all had pretty solid designs on their phones with similiar specs as well. So again....why did Samsung have success where others didn't?
Agressive + STYLISH marketing = WIN
I have a few theories. For starters, Samsung got a jump on the competition by releasing the Galaxy S2 back in February of 2011 at MWC. At the time, this was one of the only Android devices that rivaled the iPhone in power (it was actually a lot more powerful). HTC went on to release their dual core device 2 months later, but where HTC failed was in marketing their device. Samsung very aggresively marketed the Galaxy S2, and you can see from the sales numbers that the strategy more than succeeded. That's not to say that HTC didn't market their device at all, but the difference was the WAY Samsung marketed the device. I have honestly never seen an Android phone so aggresively marketed, and Samsung successfully created a STYLISH marketing campaign that you would normally only expect from Apple. The TV commercials were frequent, stylish, and aggressive, and most importantly, stuck in the minds of consumers. It was pretty hard walking around Berlin without seeing a poster of the device somewhere on every street corner, and pretty soon I saw people at the office showing it off.
There are so many ways to market a device, but when it comes to marketing to make a device stick in the minds of consumers, Apple has this down to a fine art. NOBODY markets better than Apple, and Samsung not only realized that, but successfully cloned that style. But when they did it, they tapered it to their own product and their own needs in a way that made it seem a "cool“ must have device.
Some OEM's had too many/ few devices for any to stand out
I'm really hard on HTC, and that's because I have a lot of respect for them. They have made some AMAZING Android devices, and I was the happy owner of a G1, a Nexus One, and Sensation for a long time. In all honesty, I thought that they would become THE Android manufacturer with the biggest numbers. But HTC especially made a big boo boo by overflooding the market with too many devices. There was no way for the public to simply concentrate on one phone, as devices of all names, shapes, and sizes running more or less the same or similiar hardware kept continuously hitting the market. Sure, Samsung didn't have only 1 device either, but they concentrated their efforts on the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2 primarily, and simply forced the public to notice it. HTC's strategy looked good on paper, as they thought by releasing mass quantities of low, mid, and high end smartphones that they would have all price ranges covered for consumers. But the problem is, it's easy to remember 1 or 2 devices. It's really hard to remember 10. Sometimes, less really is more. Other OEMS like Sony and LG however, had fewer devices, but didn't have enough consumer interest generated in them to become game changing phones.
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maybe samsung phone is just much better than the rest of the makers on the market?
HTC sensation one ****ty as phone compared even to my galaxy s1.
In my country:
Sony: Had a good start with the Walkman phones but the first xperia phones and the vivaz had many hardware issues like the usb ports falling off and waiting 2 months to fix them.
HTC: Marketing is poor, their phones are very expensive and not found everywhere.
Motorola: Bad reputation because their first the old RAZR phones were bad and we have 2 droids avalible: Milestone and Defy.
LG: Same reasons as motorola .
Samsung: Aggressive marketing, huge number of phones, cheaper than others, found everywhere, and finally we get the good phones, not the leftover Samsung is like Nokia now.
I thought about this just today. All my devices are samsung & that was not on purpose...
Might also have something to do with the fact that Samsung has been a trusted manufacturer in the tech industry ever since I can remember.
Their aggressive advertising campaigns, especially the stabs at apple, might also have something to do with it.
Their phones IMO are very aesthetically pleasing. Everyone buys big bulky cases that cover it anyway
Also their availability in the US is insane, you can get a galaxy phone in any size and at any price range on any carrier.
Most of their devices have a gigantic development community behind them too.
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Might also have something to do with the fact that Samsung has been a trusted manufacturer in the tech industry ever since I can remember.
Their aggressive advertising campaigns, especially the stabs at apple, might also have something to do with it.
Their phones IMO are very aesthetically pleasing. Everyone buys big bulky cases that cover it anyway
Also their availability in the US is insane, you can get a galaxy phone in any size and at any price range on any carrier.
Most of their devices have a gigantic development community behind them too.
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IMO, samsung simply dominates the market because they have the greatest hardware. Since the time I bought a samsung moment my first android phone they were ahead of HTC and Motorola was right next to samsung with the droid 1. They just had a great start
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I happened to answer a phone survey about 3 years ago asking me about who I think of when smart phone is mentioned. Apple was the obvious answer at that point in time, followed by motorolla. It became clear the survey was for Samsung as they started to inquire about what I knew about Samsung phones. Less than a year later the Galaxy S line came out. In 3 years if I answered the same survey Apple would be the first again but Samsung would be the second followed by HTC and Motorolla. In 3 years time it went from not even a thought in my mind to say Samsung to they would be either the first or second name to come to mind. Good marketing is good business.
I would not say a monopoly as that would mean there is no competition. Htc and Motorolla exist. HTC I feel is stuck in the mud and have not moved forward in a while including the One serries and sense 4.0. Motorolla has always come across to me as the phones apple fans point to when they say android sucks. Never picked up a Motorolla phone I was impressed with (this is just my opinion). Sony and LG are real marginal in the US, I can not speak to elsewhere
It seems that Samsung is taking over the high-end android market with their Galaxy S phones, HTC is trying to move into that with the One phones but IMO samsung phones are still better
Samsung is a BIG company who is researching almost everything... They have money, people, knowledge and BRAND!!! Where was htc five years ago?...I remember that several phones which i bought was samsung because of their design from d500, d600, d900, u600 and that old phones,marketing and good memories told me that i need to buy sammy again. Personaly i see HTC and Samsung leading android manufactures
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And remember they are all here with one purpose : To take our money! Anything else... We wont get nothing from them..
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Got to love Samsung screens. They're amazing, and apparently some people like TouchWiz.
The only thing Samsung doesn't own yet is a grocery store,I think.
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And remember they are all here with one purpose : To take our money! Anything else... We wont get nothing from them..
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And remember, the one who takes the money is the one who remembers old customers and makes improvements so......Samsung at that point
I think the one x's design and slcd2 is more than enough to make up for its poorer performance than gs3(if there's any) sense is also very beautiful imo.
What htc needs now is build up the one brand. Samsung design phones that are too similar to iphone. Makes me feel cheap using it
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abellimz said:
I think the one x's design and slcd2 is more than enough to make up for its poorer performance than gs3(if there's any) sense is also very beautiful imo.
What htc needs now is build up the one brand. Samsung design phones that are too similar to iphone. Makes me feel cheap using it
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Well you got some point there, but at the and specs are the engine for us to buy. I can admit that design is also a key.
" To argue about taste is always pointless" - Romans said it long ago.
Specs are competitive not design. And frankly i can't understand what guys meaning with "sexy" when they talk about phones
SGS2 has overall better benchmark results then a stock HTC sensation. But with similar ROMS, the user's experiance is hardly any difference. it's HTC design what keeps me from ever switching to Samsung.
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SGS2 has overall better benchmark results then a stock HTC sensation. But with similar ROMS, the user's experiance is hardly any difference. it's HTC design what keeps me from ever switching to Samsung.
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My dad has the Evo 3d and I'm amazed with how HTC has managed to just put too much crap into Sense, so that the appdrawer lags when scrolling through it.
I recommended ADW to my friend (who also has a Evo 3D) and the next day he said he was amazed by how fast and fluid it worked.
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Successor just within 6 months ?

Hello everybody
It has not even been 6 months since the HTC One x release.
I have bought a HTC One x last week in the hope that it would be the flagship product for HTC for next 6 months.
Alas all my hopes was shattered few days back by HTC One x+.
I have seen the rumors even before I purchase the one x.
But at that time it was said as a direct competitor for Samsung galaxy note product.
So I assumed it may not supersede HTC One x.
But recent reports are terming the one x+ as more of a successor to one x than competitor Samsung galaxy note.
In that case our mobile phone would soon become a step child for HTC from a flagship product position that too merely within 6 month of a product life cycle.
I.think nowadays mobile phone product got a short span of life cycle.
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That's how it goes. Thank Apple and their yearly release cycle.
I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. I love the One X and don't image it will be difficult to stick with it for 2 years.
...no matter how tempting the Lumia 920's PureView camera may be...
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I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
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That's how I see it too
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Love the one you're with.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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Agreed.
Contrary to popular belief, when a newer phone is released, your devices specs DO NOT change. They will remain the same thru its entire life span
I don't care about new phones. I just want this one to get root!
Remember, there is still the Evitaire info from early august. The One X+ is codenamed Endeavor C2, that one should be for T-Mobile. Considering the AT&T One X is codenamed Evita, I'm sure the the Evitaire is for AT&T and is the One X+. We will know for sure on the 19th.
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This happens all the time. When a new device is released, people feel hard done by because a newer model is about to be released. It's just the way technology is nowadays.
And as others have said, the + isn't a massive improvement anyway
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New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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Thanks everybody for your clarifications on the One X+.
Moreover many of you have not understood my concern correctly.
I am not such an immature person to think that the mobile phone i have, would never get a successor.
Not only Apple offers a one year window before releasing a successor to it's products, But it also offers 3+ year support for it's existing products.
Expecting our investment (valuation) to be secured at least for one year is wrong?
I think, people should not complain about product support for more than one year if they didn't buy an Apple or Google Experience device.
Anyway let us hope the HTC One X+ be a T-Mobile centric mobile phone.
In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so. HTC has no choice. If it didn't refresh its hardware in 6-month time frame, other manufacturers will leave it way behind. There is no such concern from Apple because no one else get to release another iPhone.
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In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so.
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Still you didn't understand my point correctly.
Using latest and greatest mobile phone is not my point.
I want the mobile phone i purchased should receive first hand treatment from the company at least for one year.
Apple, Google and Samsung does that.
How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
I am not trying to cause issues with this post but to point something out and ponder WTF is different.
This new X, is just a slight upgrade we know, but in this picture at the Verge, it seems to have either new vent holes or a speaker outlet by the redesigned camera bezel.. IF, this is a picture of it and not something else.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/7/3300642/htc-one-x-plus-specs-leaked
What am I missing here, I haven't seen this back before, just went through every device at gsmarena and couldn't find a match, it's redesigned a little I guess. If you can't see holes, highlight picture.
WR
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My wife's 2 year old HTC Inspire got an update last month. Will it ever see ICS? I doubt it.
With Google going to a yearly software release schedule like apple I suspect my One X will see Jelly Bean but not Key Lime Pie, or Karmel Korn, or whatever they decide to call it.
You buy a phone for what it can do TODAY. Since you're on a site which is all about developing custom roms and tweaks and such, a company's official software release schedule shouldn't matter all that much anyway.
If by some bizarre chance I still have this phone in two years I'm sure CM11 or CM 12 or whatever will run on it just fine.
The dual core S4 is already capable of running everything except the hardcore games like a hot knife through butter. Android apps are a long way off from maxxing out what our SoC is capable of.
In a nutshell chasing the latest and greatest is expensive, there will always be something better on the horizon. Always buy the flagship and if you can, buy the unsubsidized unlocked version. That will keep the average XDA user happy for at least a year.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
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My Samsung Galaxy S2 (AT&T version) only received ICS updates after I purchased HTC OneX and dumped my S2.
In US, AT&T received Galaxy S2 in Oct. 2011, then a newer version of Galaxy S2 with LTE radio called Galaxy S2 SkyRocket and Galaxy Note showed up in Nov. 2011. Afterwards, AT&T is also scheduled to release Galaxy S2 SkyRocket HD in March or April 2012 but later cancelled due to incoming Galaxy S3 which released in June 2012. The SkyRocket HD did get released in Korea however. So, in about eight months, Samsung released or intend to release 5 different Android phones on the same carrrier.

Why I should have avoided HTC ONE X (AT&T)

This is the first time i am writing a post against an innovation, first of all i would like to mention that i like HTC ONE X that i own since May 2012 from AT&T, so this is not a hate post its more of an really upset post. HTC according to its promises during launch of one series was supposed to provide constant updates and bug fix for a group of satisfied customers, but it started making them unhappy once again when they were not releasing issues related to Wifi and calls with One X. After the release of Samsung S3 and Iphone 5 the company forgot its promises and stepped back and again changed their primary focus from Android to Windows, releasing a few window phones in Oct 2012 after iphone. Then they made a very huge mistake by releasing the HTC ONE X+ last week, where the specs of the phone are amazing for US market, but forgot to think about the 4 milllion users currently using the HTC One X. Did HTC really think we would be happy with the new phone or sad as the phones we use now are outdated within 6 months and are being sold at $29.99 and has no value of carriying it, which we bought for $149.99 or for some $199.99. And now we will have to see other people using the HTC One X at the cost of us as we tried the phone trusting the brand to keep it exclusive.
Less Battery Life, Slower CPU, Less Space, previous andrioid OS @ a higher Price. Welcome to HTC family of testers. I will make sure any product i buy next is not from HTC or its affiliates. I will buy a Samsung or an Iphone for sure, confident about them not releasing a similar product within 6 months.
Thanks HTC for making me a tester, i will make sure i don't become again. Same for AT&T for releasing it in US. You just lost a cusomter for sure.
Name one company didn't do what HTC does. Let's face it, any Android phones can only have 3 to 6 months of shielf life.
I don't have any issues with WiFi or calling. I have no doubt you have a legitimate issue, but I also don't think its that widespread. HTC is a great phone company. I've stuck with them through 5 devices, since the old Windows Mobile days. The only beef I have with them, is their anti-development posture (despite their claims to the contrary) with the locked bootloaders, and their decision to cavort with AT&T to not allow a bootloader unlock for the One X. I'm willing to bet that future HTC devices on AT&T will be similarly locked down, and that if anything will prevent me from buying their devices in the future.
The One X is an amazing piece of hardware. Them offering an update to the device is logical business sense, and doesn't degrade the real value of my phone (how I use it every day). All Android devices drop in retail value. I don't resell my devices, so I can care less. The X+ is not even out yet. So the One X is still by far the best phone out there. The GS3 has a crappy cheap feel. The iPhone 5 has a dinky screen, and a funny candy bar shape, its a joke to me. The One X is the best there is.
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ChummyDays said:
Dude. Think about the life of the galaxy s2.. they are still updating it man!
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I think he was talking more about how long a phone stays the flagship, how fast the price drops, when it gets superceded by a new phone. HTC has a bit to be desired for updates, for sure. But all the Android manufacturers have a major hardware release every several months. GS3 is newer than the One X, and Samsung already has the Note 2 coming, and I think a smaller version of the GS3, as well.
htc could keep the bootloader how it is but allow htcdev for unlock on at&t, that would let use flash on all firmwares and still keep people from bricking their phones with tegra roms. i think that should be an acceptable compromise for the time being.
Care to tell us where to buy this magical One X+ thats supposedly for sale since last week? That would be great!
Also, its cell phones dude...
SGS2 - SGS2 Skyrocket - [email protected] Sky Rocket HD - Note 1 - SGS3 - Note 2
Razr - Razr Maxx - Atrix HD Razr M- Razr i - Razr HD Maxx
Insert 10 phones here - One X - One X+
I remember when I bought a SGS2 on AT&T and not even a damn 60 days later the LTE version was already out.
Its the name of the game. More and more people are jumping to the next phone just because its the latest and greatest. Why wouldn't a business capitalize on that?
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Dude. Think about the life of the galaxy s2.. they are still updating it man!
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Which ones: there are three different versions of GS2: Original GS2, GS2 LTE/Skyrocket and GS2 LTE with HD screen (Korean only). All released within 2 or 3 months of each other. Not to mention GS3 was released soon after that. As far as I know, other than ICS update, there is no other updates for AT&T versions.
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Which ones: there are three different versions of GS2: Original GS2, GS2 LTE/Skyrocket and GS2 LTE with HD screen (Korean only). All released within 2 or 3 months of each other. Not to mention GS3 was released soon after that. As far as I know, other than ICS update, there is no other updates for AT&T versions.
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I know the sprint GS2 is still getting updates, I just flashed a update to my mother phone last week. That is the only phone i know of that is getting updated at its age. well the Evo 4G OG too
Did they state the one x will stop getting updates all together when the + comes out?
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Did they state the one x will stop getting updates all together when the + comes out?
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I never seen that.
I'm not happy with the fact that the CEO of the company, Peter Chou said out his own mouth that an official bootloader unlock solution would be provided for every phone after late 2011. It's Oct now and this phone still does not have that. Because of that, this will more than likely be my first and last product I'll buy that's an HTC made product.
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I never seen that.
I'm not happy with the fact that the CEO of the company, Peter Chou said out his own mouth that an official bootloader unlock solution would be provided for every phone after late 2011. It's Oct now and this phone still does not have that. Because of that, this will more than likely be my first and last product I'll buy that's an HTC made product.
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He made an uneducated statement. Anyhow, all the mfr's are locking bl's now and relying on the carriers for approval to shipped unlocked devices. What brand will you go to?
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He made an uneducated statement. Anyhow, all the mfr's are locking bl's now and relying on the carriers for approval to shipped unlocked devices. What brand will you go to?
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One word: Nexus.
No wifi issues, No dropped calls here...
sure HTC falls behind a little on the update department but the HOX+ is not a mistake, the new flagship comes with JB which will be available a couple of weeks after the official release on the HOX and HOS, and every phone manufacturer releases an updated/better/newer version every 6 months or so.
About Samsung... 4 diferent types of S2 or something... maybe more on other carriers (who knows), Skyrocket couple of months after the release of the S2, then the Galaxy Note... Samsung made the same thing and considering the crazy amount of phones HTC released last year... this is an improvement... sort of xD
Hopefully JB will come out soon (if is not out alredy...havent look into it), and all your bugs will go away
BTW sorry about my English, doing my best!
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One word: Nexus.
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Really? All the nexus devices shipped with unlocked BL??
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Really? All the nexus devices shipped with unlocked BL??
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You're right they're not. Process of unlocking them isnt an issue though.
By HTC releasing a new, upgraded version of their flagship device during the same year, customers really feel like they have made a bad decision...
But....you could argue the one x plus is necessary, because the one x, one s, each sgs3 variant and countless others all are essentially the same device, with an s4 soc and at least a gig of ram.
the only variance is screen size, storage, and the materials used to build each device.
Nice to see a unique device on the market. Its not the same thing as every other phone out there.
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Care to tell us where to buy this magical One X+ thats supposedly for sale since last week? That would be great!
Also, its cell phones dude...
SGS2 - SGS2 Skyrocket - [email protected] Sky Rocket HD - Note 1 - SGS3 - Note 2
Razr - Razr Maxx - Atrix HD Razr M- Razr i - Razr HD Maxx
Insert 10 phones here - One X - One X+
I remember when I bought a SGS2 on AT&T and not even a damn 60 days later the LTE version was already out.
Its the name of the game. More and more people are jumping to the next phone just because its the latest and greatest. Why wouldn't a business capitalize on that?
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Yep nailed it sounds like the op is just butt hurt that HTC released a new phone...
Btw op I've had non Wi-Fi or calling issues phones been rock stable
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If you must have the latest and greatest phones as they release quit buying carrier subsidized phones. I could care less if the price drops $0.99 subsidized, I guarantee I'm still going to get $400 for mine and will have upgrade for a couple hundred dollars. In 5-6 months, I will do it again.
That's how it is
In Android world if your phone stays on top for 6 months...consider yourself lucky...new phones launch every week...and samsung is no different...Galaxy S (Vibrant) was awful...no updates except from 2.1 to 2.2 and it had very bad firmware...thanks to CM...I am running 4.1 on it now
Wait, is my One X going to explode when the One X+ comes out?
Maybe not, but it will be REALLY embarrassing to be seen holding one
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HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2

Bad news guys
HTC has announced that its 2012 flagships, the One X and One X+, won’t be receiving any updates past Android 4.2.2.
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The decision has been met with considerable criticism on Twitter, and rightly so, especially in the case of the One X+, which has been left in the lurch only 14 months after launch. What makes matters worse is that neither device will be getting Android 4.3 either, a version of the OS that came well before either phone reached the usual 18-month support cycle extended to flagship devices. It’s a scenario reminiscent of what happened with the HTC Sensation, a flagship smartphone for which support was dropped after just one major update.
HTC issued the following statement:
We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences.
The decision to not update the One X series is also disappointing when one considers how HTC has been pretty great at updating its latest flagship, the HTC One, to newer versions of Android, with the KitKat update hitting unlocked models in the U.S. within a month after Google released the update for Nexus devices. Hopefully, it’s the same level of support HTC will extend to future devices as well, though even it does, One X and One X+ owners likely won’t be putting their faith in the company when they’re due for a smartphone upgrade in a few months.
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Was this entire post all your own original writing? It looks like it came from a news site, if it did you should probably quote the source.
I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised about this news though. It's been a pretty well established fact that 4.2.2 was going to be the last official update this device would receive. And while I don't agree with HTC's update policy and schedule it does make total sense considering this device is now 20 months old. I probably won't buy another HTC device purely because of their inability to update their devices in a timely fashion (the 4.2.2 update came something like ten months after it was released by Android).
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To be honest I ain't that worried about the device being at the end if life.... Cause the sprint evo 4g lte is getting 4.3 sense 5 and we can port from that... But ontop of that in the ElementalX thread Zarboz said he's gonna take care of us with a 4.3, and 4.4 sense kernel.
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I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
They gave some cockamamie reason why the Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
On the other hand, a much newer yet weaker device was receiving further updates.
A year later, that device was no longer receiving updates.
I am seeing a trend.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!
Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Wow, you guys can really be delusional at times. I mean... seriously.
That was uncalled for.
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TeK9samurai said:
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
redpoint73 said:
Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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I have to agree. If I wanted a good experience without needing updates I would get a sony phone. My next phone will probably be a samsung since they're so popular and have good dev support.
Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
musician_it said:
Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
Marlin29 said:
He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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Yeah, but the post I responded to by musician_it didn't tell you anything you didn't already know, did it (or anybody else here for that matter)?
Just my opinion, the Nexus devices have been pretty underwhelming (hardware-wise) for several iterations now. HTC simply has the best hardware around, and has for years. Its simply a shame they can't provide better long-term support on the software side.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/cffjjiq
"actively exploring" =/= won't do
Might not happen given their track record, but it's nice to think about on this Monday night.
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
Asovse1 said:
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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Its different hardware, so therefore different software. That is all he is saying. Lots of people get confused that the "international" One X (Tegra3) has so-and-so update, so why don't we (Snapdragon One X/XL), thinking its the same phone, when its not.
Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
pirlano said:
Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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grt idea.... someone with good skills should do it......

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