I have a sensation with hboot 1.18.0000 s-on
I have unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery!
When i power on the phone it fails(restart's)
Please help me!
Ok a little more information would be helpful. Do you still have the stock ROM on the device, I mean is the custom recovery all that you have installed? Have you tried booting to the bootloader and then to recovery?
I try to install a custom ics rom, isn't the stock one and i don't have a backup! Sorry for my bad english
The stock was a 2.3 gingerbread!
Ok I think I understand your problem now. Have you flashed the boot.img for the ROM via fastboot or did you enable Smart Flash for 4EXT Recovery? If not that is probably your problem. I say this because you are S-ON so that tells me you are HTC Dev unlocked which means you have to flash the boot.img differently than if you were full S-OFF.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok I think I understand your problem now. Have you flashed the boot.img for the ROM via fastboot or did you enable Smart Flash for 4EXT Recovery? If not that is probably your problem. I say this because you are S-ON so that tells me you are HTC Dev unlocked which means you have to flash the boot.img differently than if you were full S-OFF.
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Aflter i flash the rom i flash boot.img too, you can recomand me a rom that should work fine and how to install it?
please!
dragosh12 said:
Aflter i flash the rom i flash boot.img too, you can recomand me a rom that should work fine and how to install it?
please!
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Wait I just realized something. You said you are on Hboot 1.18.0000, which means you are still on the old firmware and you can not use ICS ROM. The process to gain S-OFF for Hboot 1.18.0000 is much simpler than for higher Hboot versions because you can use revolutionary. So before I go any further I need to know if you want to stay HTC Dev unlocked or if you want to be full S-OFF.
T-Macgnolia said:
Wait I just realized something. You said you are on Hboot 1.18.0000, which means you are still on the old firmware and you can not use ICS ROM. The process to gain S-OFF for Hboot 1.18.0000 is much simpler than for higher Hboot versions because you can use revolutionary. So before I go any further I need to know if you want to stay HTC Dev unlocked or if you want to be full S-OFF.
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i want the simpliest method, if i want s-off it's not necesary to boot normaly to homescreen? Can you help me?i wait for your advice!
dragosh12 said:
i want the simpliest method, if i want s-off it's not necesary to boot normaly to homescreen?
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Ok here goes, you are still on the old firmware so you can not use a ICS or Jelly Bean ROM without updating your firmware. Now because you are S-ON you can not flash another firmware unless it is in a official update package. No let me cover your options here.
Option #1
You can just flash a Gingerbread ROM and then flash the boot.img and you will be back up and going.
Option#2
You can re install the stock recovery from here, you will have to extract the recovery from the zip file and flash it via fastboot commands. Then you can download and flash the official update from this thread[/URL}. You may have to open the zip file and then open the firmware.zip file and add your CID to the "android-info.txt" if it gives you a error about the wrong CID. below is what the "android-info.txt" has in it already, if you see your CID then you should have no problems.
Code:
modelid: PG5813000
cidnum: HTC__001
cidnum: HTC__E11
cidnum: HTC__N34
cidnum: HTC__203
cidnum: HTC__102
cidnum: HTC__405
cidnum: HTC__Y13
cidnum: HTC__A07
cidnum: HTC__304
cidnum: HTC__032
cidnum: HTC__016
mainver: 3.33.401.6
hbootpreupdate:1
After flashing this via the stock recovery your ROM you have on your device now should boot, but remember to reflash a custom recovery.
Option#3
You can relock your bootloader via HTC Dev and use [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300"]this thread to gain full S-OFF and then just flash the 3.33 universal firmware package from this thread.. Afer that you can flash any ROM you want to and not have to flash the boot.img separate
If you think you ever will want to be full S-OFF I highly recommend you use Revolutionary before you change your Firmware as it is much easier to use than Juopunutbear.
Where do i find a ginger rom? you can give me a link? i search but i don't find...
dragosh12 said:
Where do i find a ginger rom? you can give me a link? i search but i don't find...
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Look in the Sensation Android Development forum, you will probably have to look back past the first couple of pages to find one. Just look for a ROM that says it is 2.3.? Android and you should be ok.
T-Macgnolia said:
Look in the Sensation Android Development forum, you will probably have to look back past the first couple of pages to find one. Just look for a ROM that says it is 2.3.? Android and you should be ok.
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I can't find one!!!!!!
dragosh12 said:
I can't find one!!!!!!
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Under 2.3.x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613295
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app
Obnoxious87 said:
Under 2.3.x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613295
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app
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i flash a rom like u say and when i boot it restart's! When i go to recovery from boot it starts automaticly and it's working perfect, but when i power on normally isn't working...what should i do?
dragosh12 said:
i flash a rom like u say and when i boot it restart's! When i go to recovery from boot it starts automaticly and it's working perfect, but when i power on normally isn't working...what should i do?
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Did you flash the boot.img for the ROM you flashed? Remember because you are HTC Dev unlocked you willhave to flash the boot.img every time you flash a new ROM.
T-Macgnolia said:
Did you flash the boot.img for the ROM you flashed? Remember because you are HTC Dev unlocked you willhave to flash the boot.img every time you flash a new ROM.
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i flash it like u say
dragosh12 said:
i flash it like u say
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So yes you did flash the boot.img? Or no you will flash it and post back with the results?
---------- Post added at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:49 PM ----------
If you are still having troubles try this ROM and see what it does I know it is the right kind of ROM to use with the firmware you have.
I did a wipe, then flash the rom, then flash the boot.img from cmd! and if i power normaly is continuously rebooting, when i enter bootloader-->recovery the phone is starting perfectly!
If you have not worked out your problem do the below quoted text is from the "Flashing roms with S-ON and 1.27 HBOOT" thread. Please do the below and post your firmware virsion.
Extra 2: Checking your exact firmware version
This can be useful if your phone is stuck in a bootloop, people who will try to help you will need this formation. You can find out your exact firmware version by doing the following;
If you can turn your phone on do the following:
Plug in your phone and make sure USB-debugging is enabled
Go to C:\Android or wherever your adb and fastboot are located
Shift right click in the white space on that folder
Select "Open command window here
Type in: adb
Type in: adb reboot-bootloader
Your phone will reboot, wait until you see a white screen which says "FASTBOOT USB"
Type in the command window: fastboot getvar all
From the list "version-main" represents your current firmware version
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Maybe you should wipe cache and dalvik cache. Saved me once somehow.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
T-Macgnolia said:
If you have not worked out your problem do the below quoted text is from the "Flashing roms with S-ON and 1.27 HBOOT" thread. Please do the below and post your firmware virsion.
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"version-main: 1.50.401.1"
what should i do now?
When i flash the boot.img from rom i do the comand: fastboot flash recovery, i think this is the mistake...what should i wrote instead recovery?
srry for my english
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hi seniors
i am new to Android phones.
I have HTC Sensation Xe which was rooted and with unlocked boot loader, also have super user permission(what ever in technical terminology).
Hboot verion 1.29.0000 and it's S-On.
Recently I tried to install Elegancia Rom on it, after following instructions I flashed my phone.
After restarting my phone, It got stuck at elegancia boot screen.
I have waited for it to boot for more then 15 min, but it never went ahead from that screen.
I have tried to wipe cache and dalvik etc. and re flashed again. But every time it stuck at elegancia boot screen.
I have tried to restore backup( Nandroid) from recovery screen( which is 4ext recovery), but it not recognizing my backup.
Now I am not able to do anything on my phone, so please help me how to revive my phone??
Its not bricked. The problem is you are S-ON and so should have enabled SmartFlash in 4EXT or manually flash a boot.img using fastboot flash boot boot.img
There is a guide somewhere in the general section about flashing ROMs with S-ON, read and follow the instructions
Run original RUU from pc
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using Tapatalk 2
I thank you all for helping.
I have tried to install Elecgancia sense 4 again by enabling 4EXT smartflash from 4EXT recovery and voilaaaaaaaa
My phone is up and running.
Thnx again
Jonny said:
Its not bricked. The problem is you are S-ON and so should have enabled SmartFlash in 4EXT or manually flash a boot.img using fastboot flash boot boot.img
There is a guide somewhere in the general section about flashing ROMs with S-ON, read and follow the instructions
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Can I install Darkforest Rom on my sensation xe(already on Elegancia Rom)???
I have tried to install stock RUU on my phone but it failed, so I want to try Dark Forest Rom on my phone.
deadmenkiller said:
Can I install Darkforest Rom on my sensation xe(already on Elegancia Rom)???
I have tried to install stock RUU on my phone but it failed, so I want to try Dark Forest Rom on my phone.
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yes but you need to make sure SmartFlash is enabled otherwise it might not boot
Jonny said:
yes but you need to make sure SmartFlash is enabled otherwise it might not boot
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Thnx man for replying.
I am downloading your Rom, but let's say, after some time I want to reinstall STOCK ROM, then how can I install that?? please guide me, and sorry for bothering you, as I am a new android user.
deadmenkiller said:
Thnx man for replying.
I am downloading your Rom, but let's say, after some time I want to reinstall STOCK ROM, then how can I install that?? please guide me, and sorry for bothering you, as I am a new android user.
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The type of stock ROM you can install depends on S-ON/S-OFF status, CID and Model ID. you have Sensation XE - Model ID of PG5831001 (I think) so you can only install RUU_Pyramid_LE_ stock RUU's
Then you have S-ON so you can only install the same or higher RUU version as what you are on (to check use fastboot command "fastboot getvar all" and look for mainversion in the output) eg if mainversion = 3.33.401.106 then you can only install the 3.33.401.106 or higher RUU.
Then comes your CID, if you have superCID (11111111) then you can install any RUU, however if you are a tmobile user or vodafone, you will most likely have a different CID (to check use fastboot command "fastboot oem getvar cid"). so if you are tmous CID then you can only flash T-Mobile RUU's but most Sensation XE's sold come with CID HTC__001 which means any RUU version (depending on the above 2 points)
deadmenkiller said:
and sorry for bothering you, as I am a new android user.
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Don't worry about it, we are all new android users at some point
Jonny said:
The type of stock ROM you can install depends on S-ON/S-OFF status, CID and Model ID. you have Sensation XE - Model ID of PG5831001 (I think) so you can only install RUU_Pyramid_LE_ stock RUU's
Then you have S-ON so you can only install the same or higher RUU version as what you are on (to check use fastboot command "fastboot getvar all" and look for mainversion in the output) eg if mainversion = 3.33.401.106 then you can only install the 3.33.401.106 or higher RUU.
Then comes your CID, if you have superCID (11111111) then you can install any RUU, however if you are a tmobile user or vodafone, you will most likely have a different CID (to check use fastboot command "fastboot oem getvar cid"). so if you are tmous CID then you can only flash T-Mobile RUU's but most Sensation XE's sold come with CID HTC__001 which means any RUU version (depending on the above 2 points)
Don't worry about it, we are all new android users at some point
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Thnx again man. You are really helpful.
I have
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL.
HBOOT-1.29.0000
eMMC-boot
Main version is 3.33.4.1.106 as you said, and CID is HTC_001.
I have downloaded stock ROM (RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.106_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_266172_signed), but when I tried to install it failed.
So tell me what I am doing wrong. Right now I am installing Darkforest Rom, but in future If I want to flash stock rom them what should I do??
deadmenkiller said:
Thnx again man. You are really helpful.
I have
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL.
HBOOT-1.29.0000
eMMC-boot
Main version is 3.33.4.1.106 as you said, and CID is HTC_001.
I have downloaded stock ROM (RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.106_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_266172_signed), but when I tried to install it failed.
So tell me what I am doing wrong. Right now I am installing Darkforest Rom, but in future If I want to flash stock rom them what should I do??
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What error code are you getting? Sometimes the phone needs to be connected to the pc when its in bootloader mode before the RUU will run without errors
Jonny said:
What error code are you getting? Sometimes the phone needs to be connected to the pc when its in bootloader mode before the RUU will run without errors
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It was like, this update cannot be installed on your phone. My phone was not connected in bootloader mod when I tried, also I have installed Elegancia Sense 4.0 rom on my phone.
BUT AS OF now, I have installed your DarkForest rom and it's working fine. SO I would like to explore the same.
In future if I want to get back to stock rom, then I will get guidance from you.
Thnx man for prompt replies every time. I really appreciates it.
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Unlocking Bootloader
What you need:
PC
Phone
Installed HTC sync (phone drivers)
Unlocking "tool" (batch file and fastboot / adb files)
With unlocked bootloader you will be able to flash custom recovery needed for flashing ROM, rooting etc.
Guide:
Download unlock.rar from attachment
Extract contest of rar to your desktop
Restart your phone
When powering up, press and hold “Volume Down” to enter Bootloader
With volume up / down select “Fastboot” and select it with power button
You should see “Fastboot USB” on your phone screen
Run “Unlock bootloader.bat” from your desktop
Press “t” and confirm with enter to get token
Go to HTC Dev registration and register
Go to HTC Dev unlock bootloader
Select “all other supported models” on right
Skip all steps till step 9
Paste your token like shown in step 9
After some time you will receive E-Mail with Unlock_code.bin in attachment
Save Unlock_code.bin to your desktop
In “Unlock bootloader.bat ” press “u” and confirm with enter
On your phone you should see unlock menu, move with Volume Up and select with Power
That’s it, your phone bootloader should now be unlocked and ready to flash custom recovery.
Flashing Recovery
After you are done with unlocking bootloader you can flash custom recovery.
Recommended recovery for HTC One S Ville C2 is TWRP, because it is most stable one that works with device.
You can use Superboot to root your phone and than install Goomanager from play store and flash TWRP from it
or you can try this:
download latest TWRP recovery from HERE (one with villec2 in name is the one you need)
download attached recovery flashing utility and extract content to your desktop
rename recovery image to twrp.img and place it on desktop (or location where you extracted flashing utility)
reboot your phone into fastboot (restart it and while starting press and hold volume down, when in bootloader press power to enter fastboot mode)
run flash-recovery.bat
press f and confirm with enter
your recovery should now be flashed and you can enter it by selecting recovery from your bootloader screen (volume up / down to navigate, power to select)
Flashing custom ROM
After you have unlocked bootloader / installed custom recovery you can flash custom ROM
After you have found ROM that you would like to flash and saved it on your phone this are the steps you need to take:
reboot into recovery
wipe data (factory reset) and cache
go back chose "install"
locate ROM you have downloaded to your phone
after rom has been installed reboot into fastboot
now you need to flash boot.img
Boot.img is usually included inside ROM .zip file, but since ONE S has S-ON it cannot be flashed from recovery but you need to flash it from fastboot.
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download fastboot files from attachment and extract them to c:/fastboot
Start cmd (win+r -> cmd)
in cmd:
cd\
cd fastboot
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot erase cache
reboot phone
HBOOT versions and ROM compatibility
Not all ROMs are compatible with all HBOOT versions.
Minimum required HBOOT version for flashing SENSE based, android 4.04 or 4.1.1 (JellyBean) ROM is 2.11 (you will get it with official 4.0.4 OTA update).
You can run older versions of Sense based ROMs (4.0.3) on newer hboot versions.
This does not comply to AOSP ROMs
Thank you, great how-to.
As i made my phone ready for New Roms i stucked at TWRP. If anyone else has problems there. Try this after unlocking bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788974
And install goomanager from play store and install open recovery
AW: [HOW TO] Unlock bootloader, root, flash custom recovery, rom ..
Good job.
This should answer a lot of questions for new users
Sent from my HTC One S
Elias96 said:
Thank you, great how-to.
As i made my phone ready for New Roms i stucked at TWRP. If anyone else has problems there. Try this after unlocking bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788974
And install goomanager from play store and install open recovery
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i'm not sure will superboot work with devices upgraded to 4.1 (or if any one even ships with 4.1) but i will add it as option in OP
Great one! Just to get ti to stick
Any requirements/restrictions for all this due to branding, android version, cid?
should work with all devices
Nice job:good: Sticky
I'm on VIP Serbia 4.0.3 stock rom, and I don't have any updates through software update on phone. Bipe wrote me in mail that it should be at least 4.0.4 software to be sure that this would work. Any workaround? Like debranding or flashing internatioal stock rom?
4.0.4 is needed for JB based custom ROMs to work
If you don't have OTA update you can try flashing 4.0.4 RUU
Forgive my noobness,
ruu is an offline pc update tool? Folowed the links and got to site hosting files:
PJ4020000_OTA_VILLEC2_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.15.401.100-1.11.401.110_release_2865916.zip
And
RUU_VILLEC2_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.15.401.100_Radio_16.21.20.02U_16.09.20.11_M2_release_286571_signed.exe
I suppose one is an update (zip) and the other is full rom, and that both are 4.0.4.
Should I try to install just update or full? And is the update flashable zip to be installed through stock recovety?
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
Cayman.n2o said:
Forgive my noobness,
ruu is an offline pc update tool? Folowed the links and got to site hosting files:
PJ4020000_OTA_VILLEC2_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.15.401.100-1.11.401.110_release_2865916.zip
And
RUU_VILLEC2_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.15.401.100_Radio_16.21.20.02U_16.09.20.11_M2_release_286571_signed.exe
I suppose one is an update (zip) and the other is full rom, and that both are 4.0.4.
Should I try to install just update or full? And is the update flashable zip to be installed through stock recovety?
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
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its best to use ruu, but ensure make a full backup of data through twrp because ruu will erase all user data, secondly for ruu you will need to relock your bootloader. After your phone is updated, unlock your bootloader again.
I haven't done anything to my phone yet. Its stock as it can be So no twrp, unlocked bootloader or so.
When you mention backing up data, you mean rom and such?So if (hope it won't) anything goes wrong with ruu, I can restore phone to a present state? I have all I need synced and copied to my pc that would be called "user data".
Cayman.n2o said:
I haven't done anything to my phone yet. Its stock as it can be So no twrp, unlocked bootloader or so.
When you mention backing up data, you mean rom and such?So if (hope it won't) anything goes wrong with ruu, I can restore phone to a present state? I have all I need synced and copied to my pc that would be called "user data".
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ok so go with ruu and just be sure that the CID of ur device is supported with RUU that u r going to flash and if there will be some error it will give prior to flash so most probably nothing should go wrong
How to know which one should I use? On villec2.info folowed the link to this: http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/?dir=VilleC2
There are few europe ruu files, just want to be sure... The Europe_2.15.401.100 seams to latest. Also how to check the CID compatibility? My CID is HTC_032 (got it by CID Getter app from store)
Hope this will clear things out for you:
x.xx.401.x - World Wide English (WWE):
cidnum: HTC__001
cidnum: HTC__E11
cidnum: HTC__203
cidnum: HTC__102
cidnum: HTC__405
cidnum: HTC__Y13
cidnum: HTC__A07
cidnum: HTC__304
cidnum: HTC__M27
cidnum: HTC__032
cidnum: HTC__016
x.xx.709.x - Asia TW (Taiwan)
cidnum: HTC__621
x.xx.720.x - Asia (India)
cidnum: HTC__038
(x.xx.707.x - Asia WWE (World Wide English)
cidnum: HTC__044
(x.xx.708.x - Asia HK (Hong Kong)
cidnum: HTC__622
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what you need is the one with "x.xx.401.x" in name, latest version
Hello everyone!
I have updated my phone to 4.0.4 using ruu. Now I'm going to try to flash recovery and root it.
Anyone tried and sucsseded in flashing stock 4.0.4 after using some custom 4.1.1 roms? I would love to try out some custom roms but it would be nice if I could get back 4.0.4.
Cayman.n2o said:
Hello everyone!
I have updated my phone to 4.0.4 using ruu. Now I'm going to try to flash recovery and root it.
Anyone tried and sucsseded in flashing stock 4.0.4 after using some custom 4.1.1 roms? I would love to try out some custom roms but it would be nice if I could get back 4.0.4.
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You can go back to stock just don't forget to make nadrod backup first... Or if you don't you can always use RUU
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
I have the one-s with (Serbian Telenor) Android 4.0.3 (soft. 1.11.401.110) , Do I have to install this first (EXE file) RUU_VILLEC2_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.15.401.100_Radio_16.21.20.02U_16.09.20.11_M2_release_286571_signed
or this one first (zip file) : PJ4020000_OTA_VILLEC2_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.15.401.100-1.11.401.110_release_2865916
and then do with the update zip file OTA_VILLEC2_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.17.401.102_16.22.20.03U_16.11.20.24_M_release_305849f16hjx6h6neosbyn
most probably ruu will give error
bilal_liberty said:
most probably ruu will give error
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Why do you think that ?
Hey guys, before I say something. I have really searched for help on the forum, although I clearly need help.
So I was trying to ROM the new Revelation rom and ended up in a bootloop where phone is restarting at HTC screen. I've flashed ROMs a several times with no problem whatsoever, until now.
I have 4Ext recovery and can access it without problems. Tried installing other ROMs as Cm10 with no luck.
At the time is says in bootloader.
Information about device
**** UNLOCKED ****
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
eMMC-boot
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ADB-information (when typing "adb getvar all")
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 1.27.0000
version-baseband: N/A
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 3.33.401.6
product: pyramid
platform: HBOOT-8260
modelid: PG5813000
cidnum: HTC__Y13
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 4012mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: 617f0a98
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
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I've tried installing the RUU 3.33.4, (which I believe is the right firmware for me, still nothing happens really, it loads in bootloader, nothing more).
Thank you very much for any help, I'd really appreciate it.
Links with similar problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600324&highlight=bricked+sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271457
Folks, the surgery went well! I fixed it.
Was looking for every possible solution and found a guide! Finally got my lovely sensation back.
1. Put the firmware PG58IMG file in root (3.33.4 - since my fastboot told me so). Let it "flash".
2. Went inside 4Ext and removed the PG58IMG file.
2. Formated and wiped dalvik and cache.
3. With 4Ext smartflash turned on I flashed CM10.1 ROM.
4. Bootet back to bootloader in 4Ext, connected my device to adb and fastboot.
5. Copied the boot.img from the CM10.1 Rom-file and put it in the same folder as adb and fastboot.
6. Typed "fastboot flash boot boot.img", let it flash.
7. Reboot, phone back and feeling good!
Hope this helps for anyone who's stuck at HTC logo screen and has S-ON. Since the S-ON kind of prevented me from changing CID etc. I tried this, which worked successfully!
NickenA said:
Hey guys, before I say something. I have really searched for help on the forum, although I clearly need help.
So I was trying to ROM the new Revelation rom and ended up in a bootloop where phone is restarting at HTC screen. I've flashed ROMs a several times with no problem whatsoever, until now.
I have 4Ext recovery and can access it without problems. Tried installing other ROMs as Cm10 with no luck.
At the time is says in bootloader.
Information about device
ADB-information (when typing "adb getvar all")
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I've tried installing the RUU 3.33.4, (which I believe is the right firmware for me, still nothing happens really, it loads in bootloader, nothing more).
Thank you very much for any help, I'd really appreciate it.
Links with similar problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600324&highlight=bricked+sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271457
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Even I had the same problem today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349395
In short..the culprit was the boot.img.
It was not being flashed even after enabling smartflash in 4ext recovery.
So basically what I did was exract boot.img from the AndroidRevolution rom and flashed it via fastboot(fastboot flash boot boot.img).
And it worked!!
Try this and report.
@NickenA
You should probably remove your imei and serial number from OP.
Sent from my Ouya
You can still flash Revelation but since you are S-ON you may need to flash the boot.img separately like you posted in your solution. So, extract the boot.img from the ROM, flash the ROM then push boot.img to your phone afterwards, and before you know it you will be enjoying the smoothest Sensation possible!
I've been having the same problem, once again, after trying to flash Revelation (and yeah, I'm also 1.27 with S-ON) so this looks like it's definitely the common denominator. Even with SmartFlash in 4EXT, the boot.img doesn't seem to flash for any ROM after attempting to flash revelation - I even tried 3 others that I know used to work just fine. I was starting to get afraid that I may have softbricked my phone, but I'll go ahead and try flashing boot.img manually. Thanks
EDIT: Worked like a charm - only needed to do fastboot flash boot boot.img
The other method with the PG58IMG is going a little overboard, IMO
Jus flash the proper boot.img
NickenA said:
Folks, the surgery went well! I fixed it.
Was looking for every possible solution and found a guide! Finally got my lovely sensation back.
1. Put the firmware PG58IMG file in root (3.33.4 - since my fastboot told me so). Let it "flash".
2. Went inside 4Ext and removed the PG58IMG file.
2. Formated and wiped dalvik and cache.
3. With 4Ext smartflash turned on I flashed CM10.1 ROM.
4. Bootet back to bootloader in 4Ext, connected my device to adb and fastboot.
5. Copied the boot.img from the CM10.1 Rom-file and put it in the same folder as adb and fastboot.
6. Typed "fastboot flash boot boot.img", let it flash.
7. Reboot, phone back and feeling good!
Hope this helps for anyone who's stuck at HTC logo screen and has S-ON. Since the S-ON kind of prevented me from changing CID etc. I tried this, which worked successfully!
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No need to wipe/flash anything.. Most boot-loops with S-ON occur with wrong boot.img. Just use fastboot flash boot boot.img and you should be good to go.
I have the same problem... :/ (Not sure if I have to start a new thread)
I have flashed the Revelation ROM and after rebooting I'm stuck at HTC splash screen. Now after restoring my backup of my previously used CM10.1 ROM I'm stuck on splash screen too. I even tried to flash a clean CM10.1 ROM, but same problem
I'm S-OFF using hboot 1.29 and latest firmware.
BobQuentok said:
I have the same problem... :/ (Not sure if I have to start a new thread)
I have flashed the Revelation ROM and after rebooting I'm stuck at HTC splash screen. Now after restoring my backup of my previously used CM10.1 ROM I'm stuck on splash screen too. I even tried to flash a clean CM10.1 ROM, but same problem
I'm S-OFF using hboot 1.29 and latest firmware.
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flash the boot.img of the rom manually
from cmd window the command is fastboot flash boot boot.img
rzr86 said:
flash the boot.img of the rom manually
from cmd window use the dommand is fastboot flash boot boot.img
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I tried that as well (have I to do this even if I am S-OFF?), but still bootloop.
BobQuentok said:
I tried that as well (have I to do this even if I am S-OFF?), but still bootloop.
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do a full wipe first and then reflash the rom
what recovery are you using?
rzr86 said:
do a full wipe first and then reflash the rom
what recovery are you using?
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Okay, I'll do full a full wipe, a reflash and then fastboot boot.img (again).
I use 4ext. Thanks for trying to help me
BobQuentok said:
I tried that as well (have I to do this even if I am S-OFF?), but still bootloop.
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No need for this if you're s off. Do a full wipe except sdcard and reflash.
JAM THAT THANKS BUTTON.
Happy to help.
Far_SighT said:
No need for this if you're s off. Do a full wipe except sdcard and reflash.
JAM THAT THANKS BUTTON.
Happy to help.
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It's really strange, I have never had that problem. I rewiped (except SD) and reflashed the ROMs many times, but still bootloop.
Even restoring my backup of my CM10.1 doesn't work :/
And fastboot doesn't work, because my bootloader is *** LOCKED ***
BobQuentok said:
It's really strange, I have never had that problem. I rewiped (except SD) and reflashed the ROMs many times, but still bootloop.
Even restoring my backup of my CM10.1 doesn't work :/
And fastboot doesn't work, because my bootloader is *** LOCKED ***
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Try using a modded hboot. Also, post your bootloader details.
JAM THAT THANKS BUTTON.
Happy to help.
BobQuentok said:
It's really strange, I have never had that problem. I rewiped (except SD) and reflashed the ROMs many times, but still bootloop.
Even restoring my backup of my CM10.1 doesn't work :/
And fastboot doesn't work, because my bootloader is *** LOCKED ***
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with locked bootloader you are restricted to fastboot commands
what to do is flash 3.33 universal from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
it will give you also a patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5 sums(important)
after that try with the command again
Far_SighT said:
Try using a modded hboot. Also, post your bootloader details.
JAM THAT THANKS BUTTON.
Happy to help.
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Sorry, totally forgot about that
*** LOCKED ***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.29.0000
RADIO-11.24A.3504.31_M
OpenADSP-V05.6.0.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
Mar 2 2012, 18:14:34
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I'm running latest hboot and FW from that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Thanks for your help
BobQuentok said:
Sorry, totally forgot about that
I'm running latest hboot and FW from that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Thanks for your help
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are you sure fro that thread?
because you have the official hboot version
also it is locked
the patched hboot will say at the top firmware 3.33
rzr86 said:
are you sure fro that thread?
because you have the official hboot version
also it is locked
the patched hboot will say at the top firmware 3.33
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure since this is my only source for FW/hboot files.
I'm reflashing 3.33 universal now. Which hboot should I flash? (since the one in the thread is, I guess, only an 1.27 > 1.29 update package)
BobQuentok said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure since this is my only source for FW/hboot files.
I'm reflashing 3.33 universal now. Which hboot should I flash? (since the one in the thread is, I guess, only an 1.27 > 1.29 update package)
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3.33 universal will take care too of the patched hboot
probably you will have 1.27.1111
Hello everyone!
I've a problem.
I have an HTC One S(S3) with Unlocked Bootloader and S-ON.
Now I'm stuck in HTC logo(with some red words).
I can't run the Rom, I can't go in recovery(exclamation mark appear).
But I can go in bootloader.
So, I tried to install an RUU but the executable file return the [132] error(signature).
Have you a solution?
Thank you and sorry for bad english.
p.s.
this is my getvar output:
Code:
INFOversion: 0.5
INFOversion-bootloader: 2.15.0000
INFOversion-baseband: 1.11.50.05.28
INFOversion-cpld: None
INFOversion-microp: None
INFOversion-main:
INFOversion-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
INFOserialno: XXX
INFOimei: XXX
INFOproduct: vle
INFOplatform: HBOOT-8960
INFOmodelid: PJ4010000
INFOcidnum: HTC__405
INFObattery-status: good
INFObattery-voltage: 4112mV
INFOpartition-layout: Generic
INFOsecurity: on
INFObuild-mode: SHIP
INFOboot-mode: FASTBOOT
INFOcommitno-bootloader: dirty-64bedd38
INFOhbootpreupdate: 11
INFOgencheckpt: 0
Someone correct me, but doesn't "INFOversion-bootloader: 2.15.0000" mean that the phone is an S4 model?
tivofool said:
Someone correct me, but doesn't "INFOversion-bootloader: 2.15.0000" mean that the phone is an S4 model?
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Hm, info product vle also sounds like s4.
But back on topic: What did you (try) to do?
Edit: Before you run the ruu?
Basic path I would follow:
* flash stock kernel
* flash stock recovery
If that doesn't work:
* flash custom recovery
* MAKE BACKUP
* SAVE BACKUP
* install stock or custom ROM
* restore data from backup
Did you locked before you runned RUU?
If not, try.
Look on your package of your phone on the backside, which model you have.
Z560e -> S3
Z520e -> S4
Did you updated to Jelly bean?
If yes, any RUU for S3 won't work!
Try to flash a custom recovery (please take twrp 2.3.x.x). It must work.
And then you must flash a custom Rom. Take Liberty Rom or Paranoid Android. And after you flashed the custom recovery, flash the boot.img, cause you are S-ON. If you can start your phone now, make a Backup in TWRP and save the backup on your PC.
If all of these Steps were succesfull, send me a PN. I will send you a Tutorial, made by @khan.orak, how to flash stock rom via OTA!
But first of all, try my beginning steps.
Good Luck, and pay attention: send us all of the error Logs. We need them!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
Hey, i have exactly the same problem.
I got a S4 version, S-ON and stuck in the bootloader.
I have a TWRP 2.3.3 recovery and i can mount on my sdcard so i try to copy the last Liberty ROM just like you said.
Copy and installation were ok but when my phone is rebooting nothing appears except the HTC logo.
What am i doing wrong ?
Paperboy25 said:
Hey, i have exactly the same problem.
I got a S4 version, S-ON and stuck in the bootloader.
I have a TWRP 2.3.3 recovery and i can mount on my sdcard so i try to copy the last Liberty ROM just like you said.
Copy and installation were ok but when my phone is rebooting nothing appears except the HTC logo.
What am i doing wrong ?
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Liberty ROM is the version of S3 processor.
Paperboy25 said:
Hey, i have exactly the same problem.
I got a S4 version, S-ON and stuck in the bootloader.
I have a TWRP 2.3.3 recovery and i can mount on my sdcard so i try to copy the last Liberty ROM just like you said.
Copy and installation were ok but when my phone is rebooting nothing appears except the HTC logo.
What am i doing wrong ?
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Find a ROM for S4.
You're in the way to brick your Phone! DONT FLASH S3 roms!
Flash a S4 rom and flash boot.img/kernel of that rom. It'll flash fine and reboot fine then.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
leit4444 said:
Hm, info product vle also sounds like s4.
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Exactly. It's an S4
I want kill the old owner. he said me that it's an S3 model. Why I had to doubt?
I'm sure it's an S4 model because the RUU S4 run good and complete the installation(same for a twrp for S4).
Now there is another problem. After I installed the RUU, it reboot continually.
Whats' worng? it maybe an Hardware problem? :crying:
In TWRP it doens't reboot but when "htcOne" logo appear, after a second it reboot again and again and again.
Thank you for the answer.
Basic path I would follow:
* flash stock kernel
* flash stock recovery
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Where I could find these stock kernel and recovery?
Thank you
Thats a bootloop
I dont know how it is on a s4 model after RUU, but try to flash the kernel. Open the RUU setup via winrar or other programs.
I dont know exactly which zip you must open in the ruu but try to find the boot.img in the rom.zip/firmware.zip ...
I hope i can help you!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
Hi everyone,
I have a similar problem. I am also in a bootloop. And due to Hboot 2.15 and the lack of a RUU supporting my phone (T-mobile branding CID T-MOB101) I can't get back to stock. Unfortunately I can't get into any recovery, neither twrp, cmw nor stock recovery. I've flashed several twrp versions a couple of times but always when I select recovery in the bootloader the phone returned into the bootloop. After flashing the custom recovery I also used "fastboot erase cache" and flashed the boot.img.
Does anyone know how I can get TWRP or CWM up and running in order to be able to flash a custom rom?
Thank you in advance.
djmro said:
(T-mobile branding CID T-MOB101)
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I have the same model and I had no trouble flashing CWM or TWRP. Currently I have the latest CWM.
On www.cyanogenmod.org there is a good tutorial on how to install CM on the Ville with TWRP.
Can you factory reset? Or erase storage?
djmro said:
Hi everyone,
I have a similar problem. I am also in a bootloop. And due to Hboot 2.15 and the lack of a RUU supporting my phone (T-mobile branding CID T-MOB101) I can't get back to stock. Unfortunately I can't get into any recovery, neither twrp, cmw nor stock recovery. I've flashed several twrp versions a couple of times but always when I select recovery in the bootloader the phone returned into the bootloop. After flashing the custom recovery I also used "fastboot erase cache" and flashed the boot.img.
Does anyone know how I can get TWRP or CWM up and running in order to be able to flash a custom rom?
Thank you in advance.
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Do you already have the drivers?
-try to install Twrp 2.3.x.x
-than you can read the tutorial from @khan.orak "how to get back to Stock with Ota!
You must have a choice to install twrp. It MUST work. You can only go to recovery if you UNLOCKED your bootloader. Unlock it, if it is locked (htcdev) :*
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
xQubee5o3 said:
Do you already have the drivers?
-try to install Twrp 2.3.x.x
-than you can read the tutorial from @khan.orak "how to get back to Stock with Ota!
You must have a choice to install twrp. It MUST work. You can only go to recovery if you UNLOCKED your bootloader. Unlock it, if it is locked (htcdev) :*
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
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Thank you! I have already had it unlocked. I'll try using the OTA method.
djmro said:
Thank you! I have already had it unlocked. I'll try using the OTA method.
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Say which cid you have.
But I eill send you the correct script data which you must edit, too ^^
Just send me a PM.
Dont forget to "Thanks"
xQubee5o3 said:
Thats a bootloop
Open the RUU setup via winrar or other programs.
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But I've installed the RUU with ".exe". How can I have the right kernel("boot.img")?
darkvision said:
But I've installed the RUU with ".exe". How can I have the right kernel("boot.img")?
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Open with... Winrar?
Right click on ruu.exe
Select "open with..."
Select winRAR
But you must have installed winrar first. ;*
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
Do you brought your one s back to life?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
xQubee5o3 said:
Do you brought your one s back to life?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
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I got mine figured out with the right rom that works with s-on if anyone wants help to get a custom rom working and stable send me a message. I have all files to save time.
RichieRich84 said:
I got mine figured out with the right rom that works with s-on if anyone wants help to get a custom rom working and stable send me a message. I have all files to save time.
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I think your way is very easy for everybody
xQubee5o3 said:
I think your way is very easy for everybody
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yes once shown how to use cmd correctly. lol
Hi,
I have an HTC ONE SV and i tried to flash a stock rom but i haven't any experience with it, and now my device is stucked in boot loading screen.
For what i understand i can install a new stock rom with fastboot because also my recovery mode is corrupted and factory reset as well because when i try to enter it remains in "Loading Recovery Mode boot screen". Could someone help me with a fix and a stock rom for:
K2_UL XC SHIP S-OFF RH
CID - 11111111
HBOOT- 2.19.0000
RADIO - 1.15.49a.00.07
Also i have S-Off as you can see from above and Bootloader Unlocked.
Thanks,
I hope that someone can help me.
What stock Rom did you chose?
Try to flash the RUU
Old.Splatterhand posted the correct link.
Gesendet von meinem HTC One SV mit Tapatalk
Fabian2103 said:
What stock Rom did you chose?
Try to flash the RUU
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Not so fast, before you tell people to use a RUU, tell them also, how to use. Otherwise people could be lost.
mrrrdude said:
Hi,
I have an HTC ONE SV and i tried to flash a stock rom but i haven't any experience with it, and now my device is stucked in boot loading screen.
For what i understand i can install a new stock rom with fastboot because also my recovery mode is corrupted and factory reset as well because when i try to enter it remains in "Loading Recovery Mode boot screen". Could someone help me with a fix and a stock rom for:
K2_UL XC SHIP S-OFF RH
CID - 11111111
HBOOT- 2.19.0000
RADIO - 1.15.49a.00.07
Also i have S-Off as you can see from above and Bootloader Unlocked.
Thanks,
I hope that someone can help me.
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I think it could be solved without RUU.
It seems (because of your hboot), you had already the update to Android 4.2.2? Can you tell us which software you were running? Or if you are using an european k2ul? Or any other information could be important.
Please try to use/flash this recovery for flashing a rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41456540#post41456540
You have to flash with fastboot. It is made to work also on your hboot.
old.splatterhand said:
Not so fast, before you tell people to use a RUU, tell them also, how to use. Otherwise people could be lost.
I think it could be solved without RUU.
It seems (because of your hboot), you had already the update to Android 4.2.2? Can you tell us which software you were running? Or if you are using an european k2ul? Or any other information could be important.
Please try to use/flash this recovery for flashing a rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41456540#post41456540
You have to flash with fastboot. It is made to work also on your hboot.
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I don't really know if i had the update to Anroid 4.2.2 in Fast Boot Menu it sais OS-3.03.401.1? does that help you? and i think it's an european k2ul. After i flash this recovery image? what do i do next? i mean i want to revert the phone to stock but like i said the Recovery menu dosn't load is there any way to flash the recovery image and then install a stock rom through flasboot commands? i have found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277112 and it sais that it's possible but i didn't have the recovery image, now i do but i'm still missing a stock rom that would work with my device.
You had an older recovery, which don't work with your hboot.
Flash the recovery i have linked for you with fastboot, then you should be able to enter recovery.
From recovery you can flash the k2ul_4.2.2_3.11.401.1_stock_odexed_v3.zip from here. It's a stock rom, with the same software number as you have had.
old.splatterhand said:
You had an older recovery, which don't work with your hboot.
Flash the recovery i have linked for you with fastboot, then you should be able to enter recovery.
From recovery you can flash the k2ul_4.2.2_3.11.401.1_stock_odexed_v3.zip from here. It's a stock rom, with the same software number as you have had.
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Thank you, i will try this out and i will let you know if i make any progress
mrrrdude said:
Thank you, i will try this out and i will let you know if i make any progress
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old.splatterhand said:
You had an older recovery, which don't work with your hboot.
Flash the recovery i have linked for you with fastboot, then you should be able to enter recovery.
From recovery you can flash the k2ul_4.2.2_3.11.401.1_stock_odexed_v3.zip from here. It's a stock rom, with the same software number as you have had.
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Hi,
The phone now boots into recovery so i'm on the right track thanks to you, but i don't know how to flash the stock rom? what do i need to do? i put the stock on a sd card and plug it in through an external cable and a card reader but i don't seem to find where is the file? Do i need to flash the boot.img from the zip file too? or rename the zip file somehow in the sd card?
You have to flash it from recovery.
First go (in recovery) to "Wipe"-> "Advanced Wipe" and wipe everything but sd card and internal sd card.
Put the rom on your sd card, choose "Install" and navigate to the k2ul_4.2.2_3.11.401.1_stock_odexed_v3.zip.
Choose it and confirm with"Swipe to flash".
As you are S-off, you usually don't need to flash boot.img afterwards.
When flashing is done, Reboot.
Wait some minutes, first boot takes some time.
old.splatterhand said:
You have to flash it from recovery.
First go (in recovery) to "Wipe"-> "Advanced Wipe" and wipe everything but sd card and internal sd card.
Put the rom on your sd card, choose "Install" and navigate to the k2ul_4.2.2_3.11.401.1_stock_odexed_v3.zip.
Choose it and confirm with"Swipe to flash".
As you are S-off, you usually don't need to flash boot.img afterwards.
When flashing is done, Reboot.
Wait some minutes, first boot takes some time.
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It fails to wipe with this error: E:Unable to mount internal storage. do i need to place the sd card inside the phone?
Hmmm, strange. Yes, put your sd card into your phone. If the rom is there, you can't find it, if its not in the phone.
Go on and try to flash.
old.splatterhand said:
Hmmm, strange. Yes, put your sd card into your phone. If the rom is there, you can't find it, if its not in the phone.
Go on and try to flash.
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I found my rom on the sd card but after a few seconds the installing fails because of the same error "unable to mount internal storage" is there a way to flash this rom through fastboot?
No.
Seems, something got corrupted on your device.
Connect your phone with fastboot and type into the cmd:
Code:
fastboot getvar all
Put the output here (except your IMEI & Serial number)
old.splatterhand said:
No.
Seems, something got corrupted on your device.
Connect your phone with fastboot and type into the cmd:
Code:
fastboot getvar all
Put the output here (except your IMEI & Serial number)
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version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 2.19.0000
version-baseband: 1.15.40a.00.07
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main:
version-misc: XC SHIP S-OFF
meid:
product: k2_ul
platform: HBOOT-8930
modelid: PL8010000
cidnum: 11111111
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 3909mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: off
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: dirty-0049fc265e
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
Ok, i see what i wanted to see.
Because the rom will not flash, you should really try to flash the RUU.
To do that, you need to downgrade your hboot.
Please read and follow this guide, to downgrade hboot and flash the RUU afterwards.
old.splatterhand said:
Ok, i see what i wanted to see.
Because the rom will not flash, you should really try to flash the RUU.
To do that, you need to downgrade your hboot.
Please read and follow this guide, to downgrade hboot and flash the RUU afterwards.
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Do i really need to change the supercid to downgrade the hboot as mentioned in the tutorials? because i can't do that because my device is only recognize in fastboot. when i hit the command adb devices my serial number is not shown. but in fastboot device is. or if i use command like su in adb i get an error message like this "error: device not found"
mrrrdude said:
Do i really need to change the supercid to downgrade the hboot as mentioned in the tutorials?
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Supercid is fine, no need to change it.
old.splatterhand said:
Supercid is fine, no need to change it.
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It WORKED LIKE A CHARM! THANK YOU! you are a real life saver! I could not have done it without you, thanks allot!
mrrrdude said:
It WORKED LIKE A CHARM! THANK YOU! you are a real life saver! I could not have done it without you, thanks allot!
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Nice, so have fun with your new born device :laugh:
old.splatterhand said:
Nice, so have fun with your new born device :laugh:
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Thank you, i will definitly