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[Q] sense or non-sense roms

has anyone experienced better battery life with either rom? if so please share what you had prior and what your using now.
thanks

I love non sense Idk why its just smoother
HTC Inspire not Desire

Chocolate or vanilla? non sense is going to have better battery life then sense roms but its all preference.

Either can have good battery life. Sense roms need more crap removed since it comes with more crap. Removing the extra bloat from sense and cutting out some of the social network syncing really helps. Htc's own little download thing can be a huge pig for example.
Otherwise its more of a blonde or brunette preference.

I have used Sense roms and they seem to be really poor on Battery. I switched to CM7 and never looked to sense. Sense makes no-sense.

thanks for the responses. personally i like the sense roms. i've been using coredroid and am happy with the visuals. i've been using current widget to see my power drain and it just seems that my device uses more power than other phones. ive got most of my settings tuned down to 1hr peak/4hr non peak intervals and once a day fb updates.

I've been using MIUI and IMO, there has been no difference in battery life between it and RCMixHD.
Krisbo

I've been using Android Revolution 4G 3.2 on my Inspire 4G and regularly see 15-18 hours of use before needing a recharge. Brightness on 40% and wifi stays on all day, no GPS use.

I wouldn't mind CM7 + HTC Sense Facebook

I was using no sense for about a week and switched back to a sense Rom. Actually, an inspire based rom is my preferred choice right now.

I prefer no sense. With no sense roms, you can customize more.

Just off battery life alone I vote for non-sense ROM's.
I'm running CM7 and the battery life is great.
My experience with different ROMs' bat life:
1.CM7
2.Stock AT&T
3.Android Revolution HD 3.3(just a bit worse than stock)
4.CoreDroid GB v5.1[decent ROM but HORRIBLE battery life (for me)(could be because I'm running stock radio)]
Sent from my Inspire4G running CyanogenMod7.0

CM7,RCMix 3.5,TripnMiui,InsertCoin, ArHD

So out of those 5 which do you guys recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
Also, of the sense roms which are protected from htc's security logging and if they aren't how would i go about fixing the problem without removing sense completely
And any aosp roms besides cm7 that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
And any other miui roms besides Trips that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
Also what is the best kernel: battery wise, performance wise
(THIS IS NOT A QUESTION BUT AN OPEN THREAD FOR FINDING INFORMATION BASED ON PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES)

I have tried most of the roms but keep going back to cm7.
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Yeah...I really thought I was going to love being back on MIUI with TripN but damn. CM7 is just too good. I tried using MIUI 3 times now and just had to go back to CM7 each time.

Tried all of them. I can honestly say cm7 is far superior in every category you mentioned.

Melvins Beast rom w/No Sense!!

CM7 of course

for what you listed, CM7 is what you're looking for

InserCoin, if u like Sense, otherwise CM7
Your decision.

rust1n said:
So out of those 5 which do you guys recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
Also, of the sense roms which are protected from htc's security logging and if they aren't how would i go about fixing the problem without removing sense completely
Leedroid doesn't have the logging, neither does InsertCoin. I checked.
And any aosp roms besides cm7 that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
No
And any other miui roms besides Trips that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
You can find out yourself at modaco
Also what is the best kernel: battery wise, performance wise
Why don't u try some and get back to us. Contribute a little bit? LEEDROiDs kernel is great. Faux kernel always having issues. CM7 kernel is good. Stock is good
(THIS IS NOT A QUESTION BUT AN OPEN THREAD FOR FINDING INFORMATION BASED ON PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES)
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Lol the more I read this the more it bothers me.
Of the four requirements you listed two of them are subjective (simplicity, usefulness). If you're gonna call this an open discussion, frame the questions so we can compare facts against facts, rather than opinions.
Like what do u mean by usefulness? CM7 is useless to me since I hate the keyboard and camera. But based on the criteria u set, it's very fast with decent battery. Simplicity? Di u mean which Rom has the least settings so u can't make any changes to optimize the phone to suit your needs?
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Cm7 + faux kernel. As simple or complex as you like to make it, great battery life, no sense logging, and every interaction responds notably fatter than sense. Camera lacks a little its true but its good enough for now until they finish fixing it.
Remember also its an alpha release so not quite finished yet but its still very stable for daily use.s
Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod

Tried ARHD, Insertcoin and CM7 v7.
First of all, I use Go Launcher EX (over Sense and ADW).
The fastest was ARHD 3.1.1 with built-in kernel. CF-bench scored higher than SGS2 and all 3d games worked perfectly, but battery life was weak. 100% to zero in 1,5 hour when using with screen on (stock battery).
Then I tried CM7 v7. Go Launcher worked perfect, like on other mentioned roms. But, CF-bench score was really low, much lower than Sensation should have according to CF-bench graphs. You probably say, that I shouldn't care about benchmarks. Yes, it's true, but... CM7 was also weak in games! I tested Let's Golf 2 on all these roms, and on CM7 it was almost unplayable. FPS was good, but there were many lags and I couldn't properly hit the ball. And there is no Sense camera and dialer and weak FB integration. So far - CM7 not for me.
Now I use InsertCoin 2.5.5-2 + bricked kernel and it's perfect. Battery life is very good, all games works perfect, no lags in Let's Golf 2, 3d issue games (f.e. Cordy, Roboto), also work great with no issues. Everything is very smooth and I'm not going to change it for a long time (maybe for ICS if it will be on Sensations).

Point blank coredroid or rcmix3.5 both are different than all these roms good battery and everything to me if you want cm7 just go buy a nexus s the new one all stock android and faster than cm7

all of them...
Tried ARHD and for a sense rom it was nearly flawless except for the battery life (i'd carry a second battery to get thru a day). Then I tried InsertCoin and it was everything i wanted it to be. Super speedy, rock solid and had all of the extras i would usually add in anyway like the advanced power menu and quick settings. But alas it was a sense rom and I wanted to unleash the horsepower my HTC Sensation is packing, so I tried the CM7 <i>ALPHA</i> and i knew i was home. There isn't even a nightly build out yet for my phone and i cannot see any reason i would ever switch to another! even in alpha it is fast, stable, powerful, theme-able, and my daily driver! I say try a few before you choose because if you dont likke it... just flash another. Happy Flashing.
Thanks to kmobs for the selfKANGs!!

CM7 + Tiamat + GO Launcher EX
Came from the Nexus One, which I lost . I was running CM7, with Tiamat kernel, and GO launcher EX. I tried several Sense ROMs and several nonsense ROMs. Ending up going back to my Nexus setup. Plenty fast, all the features I want, battery life so far has been excellent. I don't like Sense.

nrvnqsrxk,
I understand that simplicity and usefulness are conflicting and confusing for some people so let me clarify it a bit more,
by simplicity I meant: user friendly-ness
by usefulness I meant: handy, basically on the opposite spectrum of simplicity
Each ROM could be clarified as either simple or more useful
For example, CM7 is useful but Sense is simpler, respectively of course
Does that help?
Also, since you accused me of not contributing, although I spent the time writing the thread and splitting it into categories, I will say this about the kernels, the faux kernel in my opinion is not very good on battery life but the bricked kernel is, in my opinion, stupendously fast when scrolling through the Sense homescreens and also good on battery life. With these opinions Sensation owners can then make their decision based on people's experience, therefore I do not need to frame the question you can if you would like and that is why it is called an open discussion.

dr.m0x how about battery life compared to android revolution HD 3.6.7 ?, the CM7 doesn't have sense i believe!!
lagging ? i never experienced lagging from neither stock neither the ARH
usefulness ? are you serious ? its an android, you can change it looks add launchers, customize it looks and all your daily apps will work on what so ever rom
it is YOU who make it useful

Insert Coin no other choice. Been with it since the start

maff's SENSE STOCK OPTIMIZED ROM is BETTER than ARHD in Battery LIFE and SNAPPY AS HELL. ALMOST LIKE CM7 no DELAY. Makes my friends Razor look like made in china i swear (the software atleast)

CM7 is the best rom in terms of my preferences.
CM9 (ICS) is just around the corner too.

Rc3d
No doubt about it specially since the new version 1.0
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[Q] Help finding a ROM Which isn't laggy

Hi folks,
Somewhere along the line, with all the rom updates that have gone on, I seem to have hit a sour point.
It's as if all of the Sense 3.5 roms i've tried have a laggy app drawer. Like the scrolling feels off and unresponsive.
I've found them to have better battery life though, which is why i've felt the need to update.
I did have a Sense 3.0 rom and kernel combo months ago that was great for both, but I cannot recall which one it was amongst all the updates.
I've just changed from Pyramid 3D 8.30 + bricked 1.6 b6 kernel. Perfectly fast, stable. But the phone drained like 17% overnight in idle which is far too hungry. (Had data and wifi disabled)
That use to be more like 1 or 2% in comparison, i'm not sure if it was the rom or kernel but it's perfectly fast.
I've just gone onto the Energy rom, great rom but it has that awful app drawer lag that drives me nuts. No idea how people aren't bothered by it.
Seems the Sense 3.0 roms are much cleaner and swifter but there don't seem to be any of those around now.
Any ideas?
EDIT: I'm already using the Anker battery.

im on the same page as you but as you have stated sense roms are not perfect and need some work still, im hoping that ics will fix this but time will only tell..
For now i suggest looking at arhd 4.1.9 which imo is the fastest and most stable sense rom but you should also look into trips aosp rom just for a look, this rom shows the potential of the phone as it is super quick and responsive it actually made my gaw drop with amazemnt.

What's the camera like on those AOSP ones tho?

Like i said you should have a look at the aosp just to see what its like but as for its stability it does have a few problems, crashes here and there and the camera should work but for me it doesn't.

I've just changed from Pyramid 3D 8.30 + bricked 1.6 b6 kernel. Perfectly fast, stable. But the phone drained like 17% overnight in idle which is far too hungry. (Had data and wifi disabled)
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Actually Piramid 3D 8.30 is based on HTC official 3.0 Sense and official 1.73.401.2 XE ROM - Android 2.3.4, did you wiped battery stats after charging continously from less than 5% to 100% in 8-12 hours time? If you did this, only idea I have is to change kernel to Bricked-v1.5-ondmnd-1536-192.show-p1984 and installing cam-fix.zip straight after to have working camera. I'm using this one now with SENSEaY 2.1.0, installed Virtuous O/C flashable.zip and Virtuous Controller.apk by myself to get rid of SetCPU, everything runs smoothly. For me battery lasts for 30-40 hours of moderate use (3G + xda app, some calls, texts, internet). With screen off it seems to drain 1% every hour.

DANOFDANGER said:
Like i said you should have a look at the aosp just to see what its like but as for its stability it does have a few problems, crashes here and there and the camera should work but for me it doesn't.
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Do you know any stable ICS AOSP ROMs for the Sensation?

Have not seen a stable ICS AOSP rom yet, most ICS roms are like a beta so expect issues for a while.
Answering the original poster, RevertedASOP is a gingerbread 2.3.7 aosp build; it is my daily driver and has zero lag for me, even when underclocked on Faux's kernel. No sense components of course, but if it is speed you are after then try it out.

Reverted back to GB

Thought id share, just gone back to GB from ICS 4.0.3 unroll HTC push the stable ota out and I must say, sooooo much better battery, speed and performance. I missed my phone being this fast lol
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What ICS were you using and what GB are you on? If anything I personally found that ICS was a bit faster and better battery.

Went from insert coin to mikes android rev. I found ics so laggy and battery wasn't lasting 16 hours with same usuage. I am getting bored of the selection of sensations Roms they are mostly all same sense roms or new roms that all have bugs and things not working. Miui for example camera still don't work (recording). Bluetooth or camera on cm9 due to kernel and so on just seems theres always something to prevent a fully working pyramid rom So to gett all things I need working I'm stuck with a sense Rom
Going to switch to a new phone but not sure what to get Any suggestions?;
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I too think gb is faster but battery was better with ICS I reverted to gb before and after a while flashed ics again cuz of the battery and cm9. I still kind of want to go back to gb but don't want to have to flash the FW again and risk bricking.
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leejames55 said:
Went from insert coin to mikes android rev. I found ics so laggy and battery wasn't lasting 16 hours with same usuage. I am getting bored of the selection of sensations Roms they are mostly all same sense roms or new roms that all have bugs and things not working. Miui for example camera still don't work (recording). Bluetooth or camera on cm9 due to kernel and so on just seems theres always something to prevent a fully working pyramid rom So to gett all things I need working I'm stuck with a sense Rom
Going to switch to a new phone but not sure what to get Any suggestions?;
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thats your problem.. all the sense based roms are bloated and slow (insertcoin and ARHD)... try virtuous inquisition... it gets me better battery life and performance than ANY GB rom and ANY sense based ICS rom

norazi said:
thats your problem.. all the sense based roms are bloated and slow (insertcoin and ARHD)... try virtuous inquisition... it gets me better battery life and performance than ANY GB rom and ANY sense based ICS rom
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I'm on miui 2.2.3 at the moment pretty dammn fast
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leejames55 said:
Thought id share, just gone back to GB from ICS 4.0.3 unroll HTC push the stable ota out and I must say, sooooo much better battery, speed and performance. I missed my phone being this fast lol
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Have you looked at upgrading your batter? I just got the Anker one and the difference is significant.

im on the blitz 5 ics rom and its far better than virtuous, in terms of battery life and stability.

Strange, I find InsertCoin ICS to be faster and have better battery life than GB.

It must be my battery then lol
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I have tried several of the ICS flavors from different ROM builders.
I keep coming back to ARDH 3.6.x.
I gotta have WiFi calling stability and the call quality when outside is bad (Lack of noise cancellation).
I too, had worse battery life on any of the ICS builds. However, performance, as measured by seat of the pants and benchmarks...was better.
I'm very appreciative of the Dev work on these...don't get me wrong.
I've found I like Sense 3.5 or 3.6 more than ICS at this point in time...the widgets and folder/app organization is superior to 3.0.
Can't wait for an OEM release so these devs can really nail it.

I installed an insertcoin rom but not glad to install 4.0.3. Colors seem to be sober.. I don't know why but i'm pretty sure that there's a problem with the colors. I saw a topic about it and i think it had a patch to fix it. But i can't find it.. Anyone knows? If no, i will go back to gingerbread, too until the official sensation ics release comes =(

the_scotsman said:
Strange, I find InsertCoin ICS to be faster and have better battery life than GB.
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+1. No lag at all and battery is best I've had since getting the phone. Only downside for me is waiting for apps to be updated for Ics.
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Ics is definitely faster than gingerbread. Needed to run cm7 to feel like I was actually using a dual core phone, but sense ics feels much faster than gb sense. Fast enough that I can tolerate sense now. Battery life hasn't been that exciting on ics for me though. It seems about the same maybe a bit worse but then I haven't bothered to calibrate the battery yet.
All in all, I won't ever go back to gingerbread.
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i have just installed insert coin ics 2 days ago and very much happy with the smoothness, stability, and speed of it. not really a rom addict but i tried only two other roms before and stayed loyal on each of them. but i think i have my new rom now and will definitely stay with baadnewz rom. battery have never been an issue of mine since its always usb plugged.
in comparison with gingerbread, there really is no contest.

Ran LeeDroid, ARHD, and AndroidME ICS roms,and so far liking the AndroidME the most. May try InsertCoin next week and see what the hype is about.
ICS is already faster than GB with the stock kernel, and I can imagine it only getting faster once kernel devs improve their work. This is coming from someone running Pyramid3D 12 hours prior @ 1.512g overclocking kernel.
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I've tried CM7, ARHD 3.6 (GB), 5.2, 6.0 and 6.2 (ICS), so my experience is somewhat limited.
But I've noticed that ICS is faster than GB right after superwiping and flashing the ROM. As time passes it gets slower and slower. Shutting down and restarting helps a bit, but the performance never fully improves. This is just the feel of the phone, menu lags, scrolling stuttering, etc.
In comparison GB is slower, but more consistent. The way it feels right after a new flash is the same way it feels after 1-2 weeks uptime. And it has fewer bugs, like the green Skype video.

still baking
I was flashing a dozen similar Sense 3.6 roms and then realized I had a problem. No consistency, flashing addict. I even considered un-rooting to rehab myself. I really liked Virtuous Quattro Alpha 3 and TripNRaver's CM9 but not having Bluetooth and video recording was a deal breaker.
Two months ago, I was having issues with Gingerbread and my device freezing. But after learning about firmwares, I think I made my device even more reliable than stock. I went back to Sense-o-maniac v1.5.3 with the Amaze camera. For me, this rom has almost everything I need from Android: Amazing camera, CRT animations, screen shots, and a working Hulu+ app.
Sense is okay but I love the improvements of Android 4.0. The new lock screen, new menus, calendar, and the keyboard works great. Hopefully by March, some of these great devs will have perfected CM9.

pro setup includes. Virtuous inquisition ics 4.0.3 on the sensation is fantastic. Quite possibly the best phone/rom combo ive used. 30+ hrs battery. Its fast. Everything works. Cant ask for more at this point. U should try virtuous inquisition before deciding to stick with gingerbread. I was reluctant to take the plunge up to ics but glad i did. This is coming from someone who is extremely picky with their device and how well it works.
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation

Sense 4.0 - worth it??

I'm wondering what 4.0 rom's offer that the 3.6 roms don't. I'm not asking "what is the best rom.." but wanting to know first hand experience why people have chose to use any of the sense 4.0 roms instead of the standard ICS 3.6 ones.
Mainly wondering about the top concerns: performance, battery life, usability and camera/video.
Thanks ahead of time, I did search and didn't find answers to my questions.

kingston73 said:
I'm wondering what 4.0 rom's offer that the 3.6 roms don't. I'm not asking "what is the best rom.." but wanting to know first hand experience why people have chose to use any of the sense 4.0 roms instead of the standard ICS 3.6 ones.
Mainly wondering about the top concerns: performance, battery life, usability and camera/video.
Thanks ahead of time, I did search and didn't find answers to my questions.
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I'm now using OrDroid rom...
What I can tell you is that if you want performance, with any doubt go to sense 3.6. Sense 4.0 are still too laggy. Camera I would also tell you sense 3.6 due there is a mod for 40 mbps video while in 4. 0 its just 20. Battery life I can't tell you because I don't feel any difference.
I'm using a sense 4.0 rom because I really like the user interface and the cool clock.
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I like Sense 4 ROM's, the looks are better than 3.6. I notice that the battery life is a little worse tho than 3.6 ROM's but I'm a heavy user so to me it's all pretty much the same. I'm using OrDroid and its nice and smooth but after a few hours it gets a little sluggish. There is a MMS problem also but besides that it's pretty much stable.

I tried sense 4 never been back to 3.6, TRY FOR YOURSELF

i tried 3.6 , 4.0 and to be honest sense less roms are the best. fastest, better battery life, cleanest than any other sense rom

Buy GNex then.

You could always make a nandroid backup and try it for yourself. I tried out OrDroid for the past few days and I found it stable and useable enough to be a daily driver (I don't really use Bluetooth or Wi-Fi Hotspot) but I eventually went back to ARHD because it seems more stable anyway. Having said that I like the user interface of Sense 4.0; it looks so much better. I didn't really notice a significant change in battery life with Sense 4.0, but my usage pattern varies from day to day so it's very hard to tell. My phone was hotter with Sense 4.0, but that could have been the kernel.

Terepin said:
Buy GNex then.
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Ha ha. Grumpy terepin, nice to see you on Sensation forums.
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Yes since we're getting it without buying anything. Haha,
Tried a sense 4 rom already but still too heavy and slow for my taste. I'm now using a senseless rom.

Uhhhh, sense 4.0 rocks. I was using OrDroid 2.0.6 and now onto newer 2.0.8 and I can say its amazing. I have experienced no lag no poor battery performance or any ill effects. There is a patch for mms fix in op of ordroids forum and to get good battery life u must put phone thru a couple cycles after battery calibration. If u people would dig a little u will find the things needed for good performance. Sense 3.6 sucks compared to 4.0 and that's a fact. Simply flash and see for yourself dude. I dare ya to.
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