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Which recovery to use

Should I use TWRP or clockwork?

beyorj said:
Should I use TWRP or clockwork?
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I went with twrp, it was the recommended recovery for my rom.
Was a clockwork user and I must say twrp is very nice, and no charge bug.

Grnfinger said:
I went with twrp, it was the recommended recovery for my rom.
Was a clockwork user and I must say twrp is very nice, and no charge bug.
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Agreed, used cem for ages, but twrp is very nice, and its officially supported on our phone.
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Another vote for TWRP

TWRP here as well. Maybe when clockwork is official for us I"ll switch back but I like what the twrp guys have done.

TWRP all the way.
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i used clockwork before and now twrp. i never had a problem with clockwork.
i actually like clockwork better faster and simple look. twrp seems kinda slower.

TWRP for me.
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Yet another vote for TWRP. I like the touch interface and have used the install, backup, and restore with no issues.

[Q] HTC One X Not booting in to clockworkmod recovery

i had 5.8.2.7 and i flashed to 5.8.4.0 and now when i try to boot into recovery it just sits at the HTC screen for a while and then reboots

Use twrp instead. Clockwork isn't officially supported on our phone. Twrp is.

That or just fast boot into recovery. Is that way not working either?
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The only way I've had any success getting into Recovery with CWM is to go into Rom Manager and boot into recovery from there.

rushwal said:
The only way I've had any success getting into Recovery with CWM is to go into Rom Manager and boot into recovery from there.
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I had exactly the same problem, the only thing that ended up working for me was installing Goomanager and doing it from there.
Menu > Install OpenRecoveryScript. This will install TWRP, and worked a treat for me.

I've noticed that when you first do the fastboot flash recovery that when you adb reboot into recovery, or even manually boot into recovery, it won't boot into it the first time. It will after you try again though. This has happened on 3 One X's so I know it's not a single phone specific thing.

Use TWRP, but don't be lazy and do it from the app, it didn't work for me, and just doesn't feel as reliable as my trusty adb commands. If you need help on what commands, PM me. Only three I used, without a hitch.

I used goomanager to install TWRP and it worked just fine.

theking_13 said:
Use TWRP, but don't be lazy and do it from the app, it didn't work for me, and just doesn't feel as reliable as my trusty adb commands. If you need help on what commands, PM me. Only three I used, without a hitch.
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Flashing a recovery from fastboot is not being lazy. There's actually more work involved than installing from an app. I think you have it the other way around.

SkizzMcNizz said:
Flashing a recovery from fastboot is not being lazy. There's actually more work involved than installing from an app. I think you have it the other way around.
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Uhmmm, wanna reread what I said, I clearly said NOT to do it from the app. Here's the first sentence in case you somehow missed it.
"Use TWRP, but DON'T be lazy and do it from the APP, it didn't work for me, and just doesn't feel as RELIABLE as my trusty ADB COMMANDS."
Any more questions/inquiries?
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gunnyman said:
Use twrp instead. Clockwork isn't officially supported on our phone. Twrp is.
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Are both recoveries able to install the same roms? or are some roms only able to be installed through CWM or TWRP?
i'm assuming they both install the same way, so all roms should work regardless. It's just that rom threads say "install using clockwork", but i guess that's just a common phrase now..
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I've noticed that when you first do the fastboot flash recovery that when you adb reboot into recovery, or even manually boot into recovery, it won't boot into it the first time. It will after you try again though. This has happened on 3 One X's so I know it's not a single phone specific thing.
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that used to happen on my HTC Desire too...

zoltrix said:
Are both recoveries able to install the same roms? or are some roms only able to be installed through CWM or TWRP?
i'm assuming they both install the same way, so all roms should work regardless. It's just that rom threads say "install using clockwork", but i guess that's just a common phrase now..
that used to happen on my HTC Desire too...
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yeah install using clockwork is common language for use recovery, since cwm is the more well known one.

Just as an opinion, TWRP looks better to me, because its not all just clicks and such, TWRP you slide to confirm, you can flash multiple .zips one after the other (Useful for AOSP roms where you need GAPPS, and if you change the kernel like I do) etc.
Also, as stated before, its an official recovery on our devices, so we get full support should bugs arise.
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theking_13 said:
Uhmmm, wanna reread what I said, I clearly said NOT to do it from the app. Here's the first sentence in case you somehow missed it.
"Use TWRP, but DON'T be lazy and do it from the APP, it didn't work for me, and just doesn't feel as RELIABLE as my trusty ADB COMMANDS."
Any more questions/inquiries?
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Sorry. I took it as you saying not to be lazy and to do it from the app instead. Like, Don't be lazy. Do it from the app. See what I'm saying?
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OneDeagz said:
i had 5.8.2.7 and i flashed to 5.8.4.0 and now when i try to boot into recovery it just sits at the HTC screen for a while and then reboots
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Did you turn off "Fast Boot" in "Power settings" before you tried to reboot into recovery?
That Recovery is for the International HOX (tegra 3) not for out AT&T HOX (S4).

Does anyone have a link to up to date instructions on flashing twrp to my phone. i have the ATT version not the international

SkizzMcNizz said:
Sorry. I took it as you saying not to be lazy and to do it from the app instead. Like, Don't be lazy. Do it from the app. See what I'm saying?
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Oh no worries bro, sounds different in my head but I see what you're saying.

Difference between CWM and TWRP?

On my HOX I have TWRP installed. What is the difference between CWM and TWRP? Don't they do the same thing?
Most importantly, will CWM mods work with TWRP? (like the .zip ones) Also, what about de-odexing?
Sorry for all of the questions, I'm new to android modding.

Cwm is buggy. You can use twrp for everything and it's fine.

gunnyman said:
Cwm is buggy. You can use twrp for everything and it's fine.
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Alright so there are no downsides to using TWRP right? On this forum all I see is CWM on every thread

Mike724 said:
Alright so there are no downsides to using TWRP right? On this forum all I see is CWM on every thread
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CWM is the most common recovery, cause its the oldest and most known. But, you can also tell its the oldest, as the UI is... Ugly, compared to TWRP. The "slide to confirm" function on TWRP is really nice IMO.
But yeah, when they say "CWM", they just mean a custom recovery.
Also, TWRP is officially supported on our devices, which is why its recommended above CWM.
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It's not 100% bug free but it is much more stable than cwm.

^That, and the TWRP tries to fix the bugs as they are presented.
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Good to note too that CWM nandroids are not restorable in TWRP. So all previous backups from CWM are useless once you change.
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i have CWM on my one x, if i want to change it to TWRP, how would i do that? follow instruction on TWRP web site?? http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/99

I started out using CWM but switched because I use CleanRom and Scott suggested using TWRP. I just loaded it by downloading GooManager from google play and then following the install instructions. Worked fine for me...

claudiuslu2011 said:
i have CWM on my one x, if i want to change it to TWRP, how would i do that? follow instruction on TWRP web site?? http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/99
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You can just install TWRP right on top of CWM using a flashable TWRP zip, Goo Manager, or through fastboot.

Mike724 said:
On my HOX I have TWRP installed. What is the difference between CWM and TWRP?
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Another point, the version of cwn for the HOX is an unofficial port and thus not supported. There is an official version of twrp for the HOX, which is reason enough to switch.

Mike724 said:
On my HOX I have TWRP installed. What is the difference between CWM and TWRP? Don't they do the same thing?
Most importantly, will CWM mods work with TWRP? (like the .zip ones) Also, what about de-odexing?
Sorry for all of the questions, I'm new to android modding.
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CWM was never officially released for our phone. It was a port from another version and isn't perfect. My experience with twrp has not shown me a single problem or even a hiccup.
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[Q] Can't get into recovery

Hey guys. For some odd reason I'm having issues with my AT&T HOX. I was running the Sense 5 rom and everything was running great. I was going to flash a battery % mod so, I held the power button down to get to the reboot menu to go into recovery. Well I accidently tapped the power off button instead of reboot. Crap! No problem, I thought. When I powered the phone back up again, the phone just sat on the HTC Quiet Brilliantly screen and wouldn't go any further. So, I held down the power button to force it to shut down, held the volume down key to go to the bootloader and then into TWRP. I couldn't get into TWRP. The phone would get to the TWRP splash screen and then reboot. But then it wouldn't even go back into android. It would just stay at the HTC screen. The only way I could get it into android was to RUU the phone. I flashed TWRP 2.3.3.0 on it via adb but now I still can't get into TWRP. The phone goes into a boot loop on the TWRP splash screen. I tried to do a fastboot wipe cache but that didn't help at all. Any suggestions?

You flashed recovery with adb..? You need to flash it with fastboot. Always check the md5 of your files to make sure they're good
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Haha, sorry, I meant fastboot. I flashed it with fastboot. When it didn't work the first time. I re-downloaded twrp and flashed it again. Same results.
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Did you run the RUU? Which one? Running a RUU will restore stock recovery.
Also, the command is fastboot erase cache. Is that what you did?

Yes, I ran the AT&T 3.18 ruu. Don't worry I have s-off. The phone booted up fine after I ran the AT&T ruu. I then wanted to flash TWRP so I could install a different rom. I went to the bootloader and flashed TWRP 2.3.3.0. I flashed it with the OneX toolkit. I also did a fastboot erase cache when it didn't want to boot into TWRP. When I try to get into TWRP, it gets to the splash screen of TWRP, then the screen flashes for a second and it won't go any further. It keeps doing that until I force the phone to shut down. I am using the phone now but on 3.18 and I can't root it. I am stock. EWW!
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I'm not a big fan of toolkits. They let you skip over learning things you really need to know.
Try downloading the twrp image, check the md5 to be sure it downloaded correctly, and flash in fastboot manually.
It's possible something isn't working right with the toolkit.

iElvis said:
I'm not a big fan of toolkits. They let you skip over learning things you really need to know.
Try downloading the twrp image, check the md5 to be sure it downloaded correctly, and flash in fastboot manually.
It's possible something isn't working right with the toolkit.
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Just a few minutes ago, I re-downloaded TWRP again and flashed it with fastboot flash recovery. It said it was successful but, it is still doing the same thing. TWRP acts like it wants to boot but it won't. It gets to the splash screen and then it will just blink on and off, on and off until I force the phone to shut off.

Dang I've never seen anyone have that problem so far... That's weird.. You're doing everything correct and you sound knowledgeable.... Have you tried different twrp versions? Maybe try goo manager...
And I'm not questioning your intelligence and mean no disrespect, but are you 100% its the Evita version of twrp?
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InflatedTitan said:
Dang I've never seen anyone have that problem so far... That's weird.. You're doing everything correct and you sound knowledgeable.... Have you tried different twrp versions? Maybe try goo manager...
And I'm not questioning your intelligence and mean no disrespect, but are you 100% its the Evita version of twrp?
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Thanks man, haha, yeah I am 1000% sure it is an evita recovery. I thought about trying CWM just to see if the situation changes. Before I do that, I may try goo manager.

Yay!! I was able to flash CWM, get into it and flash SuperSU. I don't really care for CWM but at least i got SOMETHING to work. I may try TWRP again just to see if it will work.

Egrier said:
Yay!! I was able to flash CWM, get into it and flash SuperSU. I don't really care for CWM but at least i got SOMETHING to work. I may try TWRP again just to see if it will work.
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Now that recovery is working again, you should be able to switch using goo manager.

iElvis said:
Now that recovery is working again, you should be able to switch using goo manager.
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I tried re-downloading from a different source and flashing TWRP 2.3.3.1 again....Fail. It does the same thing. Flashed CWM again, works like a charm. What the heck is going on??

Egrier said:
I tried re-downloading from a different source and flashing TWRP 2.3.3.1 again....Fail. It does the same thing. Flashed CWM again, works like a charm. What the heck is going on??
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Try fastboot erase cache again
Did you use Goo Manager?

iElvis said:
Try fastboot erase cache again
Did you use Goo Manager?
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I will try fastboot erase cache. No, I flashed it with fastboot flash recovery.
Edit: Still a no go with TWRP :/ I guess I'm sticking with CWM for now.

Egrier said:
Hey guys. For some odd reason I'm having issues with my AT&T HOX. I was running the Sense 5 rom and everything was running great. I was going to flash a battery % mod so, I held the power button down to get to the reboot menu to go into recovery. Well I accidently tapped the power off button instead of reboot. Crap! No problem, I thought. When I powered the phone back up again, the phone just sat on the HTC Quiet Brilliantly screen and wouldn't go any further. So, I held down the power button to force it to shut down, held the volume down key to go to the bootloader and then into TWRP. I couldn't get into TWRP. The phone would get to the TWRP splash screen and then reboot. But then it wouldn't even go back into android. It would just stay at the HTC screen. The only way I could get it into android was to RUU the phone. I flashed TWRP 2.3.3.0 on it via adb but now I still can't get into TWRP. The phone goes into a boot loop on the TWRP splash screen. I tried to do a fastboot wipe cache but that didn't help at all. Any suggestions?
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What about erasing cache?
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Megadoug13 said:
What about erasing cache?
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I have erased it. Doesn't work.:banghead:
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Egrier said:
I have erased it. Doesn't work.:banghead:
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I would try Goo Manager, then give up if it doesn't work. CWM is okay for this phone now.

iElvis said:
I would try Goo Manager, then give up if it doesn't work. CWM is okay for this phone now.
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Been there did that. Still won't work. Going to forget it and stick with CWM for now.

[Q] clockworkmod recovery got replaced by stock recovery on cm11

hello guys
i installed cm11 through one click installer had cwm on it now suddenly after reboot its taking me to simple recovery?!?
dont know what happened..need help
in my rom manager app its still showing current recovery as cwm 6.0.4.5 but when i reboot to recovery it takes me to simple recovery
pls help!
ok edit : when i go to recovery from rom manager app it takes me to cwm but when i do it manually ( advanced power button and volume + power button) it takes me to simple?
edit again : when i click on install from sd card (to install m9) it takes me back to simple recovery even from within rom manager??

first off, get rid of rom manager. itll has so many issues and will cause you many headaches. what you did first is not flash a recovery to your device, you just booted it. thats only for a one time use. you need to flash the custom recovery to have it permanently on your phone.

Reflash your recovery. And I recommend TWRP. I hear complaints ALL the time with CWR due to bugs but never TWRP. I've used CWR in the past on my Droid X. But I've since gone TWRP and I'm never looking back.
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simms22 said:
first off, get rid of rom manager. itll has so many issues and will cause you many headaches. what you did first is not flash a recovery to your device, you just booted it. thats only for a one time use. you need to flash the custom recovery to have it permanently on your phone.
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ok so if i uninstall rom manager can i install twrp through twrp manager app in the app store?
coz im afraid after deleting rom manager ill be stuck with simple recovery with no chance of getting into custom recovery
any suggestions pls?

ayush88 said:
ok so if i uninstall rom manager can i install twrp through twrp manager app in the app store?
coz im afraid after deleting rom manager ill be stuck with simple recovery with no chance of getting into custom recovery
any suggestions pls?
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use the flashify app, its free, and can be used to flash other things besides a recovery. its a great app. you dont need rom manager to get into a recovery ever. if you press the power button(long), youll get a menu, press reboot. then youll get 3 more option, reboot/recovery/bootloader, press recovery(after you use flashify to flash your recovery).

I recommended Rom Installer over Flashify. It will download your recovery for you and keep it up to date. It will provide ROM updates. Also you can create a queue of zips to flash before you reboot. Then it flashes them automatically. It's a really good app. Way better then ROM Manager. Made by Jrummy so you know it's good . Not trying to bash @simms22. It's just my preferred app.
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Sandman-007 said:
Reflash your recovery. And I recommend TWRP. I hear complaints ALL the time with CWR due to bugs but never TWRP. I've used CWR in the past on my Droid X. But I've since gone TWRP and I'm never looking back.
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how to switch from cwm to twrp?

ayush88 said:
how to switch from cwm to twrp?
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you just have to flash it. as you also dont have cwm installed.

@ayush88 see my last post
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Sandman-007 said:
I recommended Rom Installer over Flashify. It will download your recovery for you and keep it up to date. It will provide ROM updates. Also you can create a queue of zips to flash before you reboot. Then it flashes them automatically. It's a really good app. Way better then ROM Manager. Made by Jrummy so you know it's good . Not trying to bash @simms22. It's just my preferred app.
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thats ok, we all have our preferences. i prefer flashify.

ayush88 said:
how to switch from cwm to twrp?
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Its all the same. You can flash any recovery image either via
An app like flashify
fastboot
These are basic questions. You've already been advised once today by @Lethargy to read the sticky threads. Well, here is me advising the same. You have worrying gaps in your knowledge and you need to feed them asap. Please click the link in my signature to get to all the important threads.
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Lol @rootSU I think half your posts are you advertising your sticky [emoji13] lol
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simms22 said:
you just have to flash it. as you also dont have cwm installed.
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in my rom manager app its still showing current recovery as cwm 6.0.4.5 but when i reboot to recovery it takes me to simple recovery
when i go to recovery from rom manager app it takes me to cwm but when i do it manually ( advanced power button and volume + power button) it takes me to simple?
will installing twrp over cwm cause any problems?

ayush88 said:
in my rom manager app its still showing current recovery as cwm 6.0.4.5 but when i reboot to recovery it takes me to simple recovery
when i go to recovery from rom manager app it takes me to cwm but when i do it manually ( advanced power button and volume + power button) it takes me to simple?
will installing twrp over cwm cause any problems?
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it wont cause any problems, and please get rid of rom manager. really, it WILL cause you more headaches than its worth, and it already has.

ayush88 said:
in my rom manager app its still showing current recovery as cwm 6.0.4.5 but when i reboot to recovery it takes me to simple recovery
when i go to recovery from rom manager app it takes me to cwm but when i do it manually ( advanced power button and volume + power button) it takes me to simple?
will installing twrp over cwm cause any problems?
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No. UNINSTALL ROM Manager now please. It's causing issues. Custom recoveries replace stock ones. Flash TWRP or CWR using the methods we suggested.
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Sandman-007 said:
Lol @rootSU I think half your posts are you advertising your sticky [emoji13] lol
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With good reason
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Sandman-007 said:
No. UNINSTALL ROM Manager now please. It's causing issues. Custom recoveries replace stock ones. Flash TWRP or CWR using the methods we suggested.
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uninstalled it...now downloading twrp through twrp manager app.... tried from flashify was getting a message stating flashify dsnt hv supersu access...so doing from rom installer now...hope it works!
will update u guys!... thanks for guiding me

@ayush88 Use root Checker app to make sure you have root. That could explain why you have recovery issues
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Sandman-007 said:
@ayush88 Use root Checker app to make sure you have root. That could explain why you have recovery issues
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yes its showing me congratulations! device has root access
just finished installing twrp through twrp manager...showed flashed recovery successfully but when i reboot manually again i get directed to simple recovery
when i go into simple recovery recovery this is the message i get:-
cyanogenmod simple recovery <3e>
cm_hammerhead-userdebug 4.4.4 KTU84P Installe
then my 5 options :-
rebbot sys now
apply update
wipe date/fac reset
wipe cache partition
wipe media

@ayush88 OK I'd say Flash it via fastboot
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With good reason
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Dam straight
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