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I currently have the Infuse 4G and am looking to use one of my upgrades. The Note seems like it would be a bit too big for my tastes and I like the skyrockets dual core processor. I haven't heard of any new ATT phones coming out in the immediate future so that leaves me with the Skyrocket. Are there any pros/cons or any major issues with this phone? Will I notice that much of a difference coming from an Infuse?
Thanks in advance for your input
I just got my black one and I like it as far as I can see the development is picking up don't know how it was before but I'm happy. I had sprint before but before that I had a atrix and ran some roms from a dev here. You won't regret it.
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great phone, and as said before dev activity is picking up ALOT. Dual core S3 with LTE, what more could u ask for. The speed is ridiculous, I could never go back to 3 or 4g. Honestly, my only gripe was battery, but rooted and undervolted I run over a day as opposed to 7 hours when I first got it. My advice, get it
Do not know if it is me but the radio seems just a bit on the weak side for my liking but otherwise I like it just fine.
May get the Note in time for the bigger higher resolution screen and battery life.
the note is only like what 1/2" bigger screen .. skyrocket is great though but Im not on lte where I am now it did however kick arse when I was in tampa 2 weeks
AstroDigital said:
Do not know if it is me but the radio seems just a bit on the weak side for my liking but otherwise I like it just fine.
May get the Note in time for the bigger higher resolution screen and battery life.
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Flash a different radio, then.
xcrazydx said:
Flash a different radio, then.
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Yes.... not a big deal.
Waiting for ICS before I flash a new radio.
AstroDigital said:
Yes.... not a big deal.
Waiting for ICS before I flash a new radio.
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You'll be waiting a long while, haha
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You'll be waiting a long while, haha
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So be it .... the longer I wait the less likely it be that I will ever get a non-Nexus device.
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So be it .... the longer I wait the less likely it be that I will ever get a non-Nexus device.
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AstroDigital said:
Do not know if it is me but the radio seems just a bit on the weak side for my liking but otherwise I like it just fine.
May get the Note in time for the bigger higher resolution screen and battery life.
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AstroDigital said:
Do not know if it is me but the radio seems just a bit on the weak side for my liking but otherwise I like it just fine.
May get the Note in time for the bigger higher resolution screen and battery life.
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haha ur funny. u really think a bigger screen will have better battery? No lol
What everyone else said. My only gripe with the phone is the screen at low brightness is dark areas has lines running through the screen.
r_3 said:
What everyone else said. My only gripe with the phone is the screen at low brightness is dark areas has lines running through the screen.
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That's all galaxy devices for some reason
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I dont remember it on my old captivate. Is it just a GSII issue?
r_3 said:
I dont remember it on my old captivate. Is it just a GSII issue?
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Galaxy Nexus has them too...the New iPad uses a Sammy screen, I bet it might have those lines too.
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I really doubt Apple would let that fly...
I wouldn't have gotten one at this time of the year. Holding out for the S4 based or tegra devices may have been wiser. Although, I personally wouldn't get a tegra myself...
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Galaxy Nexus has them too...the New iPad uses a Sammy screen, I bet it might have those lines too.
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I know that the hercules and epic touch have them
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haha ur funny. u really think a bigger screen will have better battery? No lol
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No reason to be like that to him. Besides, you're wrong anyway.
The difference in actual battery consumption between the two screens ends up being equal to or less than the difference between the 1800ma/h battery and the massive 2600ma/h battery. So yeah, the Note has better battery life out of the box.
Of course, everything can change depending on over/under volting/clocking, ROMs, custom batteries, etc.
Great phone. Fast, okay battery, and the community is pretty good. My only complaint is the screen line issue at low brightness but that's not really a huge problem in every day use.
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Title says it all! I have tried many of the ICS ROMS and they are all fantastic work!!! As a professional programmer, I know how much work this takes and the devs here are great at what they do!
But, I can't find a popular ICS ROM that supports BLN? I see some kernels that do...Are there any ROMS that use these kernels or are they not yet stable enough?
THANKS!
No way it can't happen on ics yet we lack kernel source to make those modifications
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GB only until Sammy releases ICS source. Same for OC/UV type stuff.
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I was afraid you would say that ... But there are a few custom kernel tweaks for ICS out there? I guess they were not compiled from source? How could Samsung have overlooked something so simple and critical? I wonder if I could build some micro LED hardware mod that integrates into a case? Maybe it could be controlled by NFC? Just wild thoughts... I love hardware hacking But im way too tired to be thinking right now!
I have LONG wanted to mod a smart phone to include a laser so it can be used as a pointer/range finder/temp sensor/lighter/blinder. That would be a hell of a notification light now
Sammy didn't overlook anything they never include any of that stuff and ics isn't technically out yet once the official drops a week or two later kernel source drops and our guys can get at it but until then the only kernel mod was to make it unsecure and make it take new bootani's
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Sammy didn't overlook anything they never include any of that stuff and ics isn't technically out yet once the official drops a week or two later kernel source drops and our guys can get at it but until then the only kernel mod was to make it unsecure and make it take new bootani's
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So Sam decided not to put a notification light on the phone that has everything? What does that benefit? Sure the button panel lights use to much power but why not a nano sized blinking LED somewhere on it? I miss messages all the time due to that. I didn't even think to look for it when I got it because every phone I have ever had since the huge cordless home phones of the 80's have ALL had a notification LED. So why did Sam decide to leave it off the Galaxy models? Don't say its cost! LED's are cheap as dirt! Hell, the thing has a magnetic field sensor which uses way more power, costs more and I have yet to think of a reason for it unless it has to do with signal interference detection. I know the FCC requires they detect certain Radar bands so they can change channels and not interfere. ???
Prolly lawsuits over patents is my guess prolly get sued for it and be forced to pay licensing which they don't need right now
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Prolly lawsuits over patents is my guess prolly get sued for it and be forced to pay licensing which they don't need right now
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I don't think that's it, since the Sprint version has an led on it... My friend has 1 and I love that feature, even my old tilt2 had 1... Wtf samsung...lol
In that case maybe carrier option at&t opted out of for some reason you can never really say:banghead:
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A non issue for me. BLN is good and my phone is set to notify me by alarm every 5-10 min for uhecked ones, depending on what it is. Easy reminder in the market, check it out. I suppose this wouldn't apply if u keep ur phone on silent however, and would prefer a visual indicator to an audio based one
NONE. Try reading or better yet a search button or even better there is this new Thing called the world wide web and it has this thing called a search engine.
Try using noled. Its in the market, working perfect on ics for me.
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Try using noled. Its in the market, working perfect on ics for me.
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This is what I'm using, too. Works very well. If you do use it, I would highly recommend messing with the battery saving and sleep settings so it doesn't drink the crap out of your battery.
Hi everybody,
Just taken delivery of a HOS from Orange France....it's a great piece of equipment ....but...is this "normal"?
Have Galaxy I/O 10.1 tabs (2), Galaxy S2, DHD, Sensation, Prime etc; but have obviously grown to love ICS and its' look....Sensation running ICS and looks great, like the prime etc. but this One S looks like the screenshot below of settings window....sh*t! It looks like bloody touchwiz (YUK!!!!!!!)
Is this the standard HTC offering with this version of Sense or is it something that Orange france have added to their rom to try to make it look like a Samsung? Hoping that it is unique to the Orange offering that way at least when we get S-OFF I can get rid of it.....
But if it is common to all your HOS models I find myself thinking "oh my God why have I purchased something that's trying to look like a Samsung?"
Cheers my fellow XDA-ers
wheres the screenshot ?
are you referring to the white settings menu ? If so, Thats how it is !!
unless you flash an AOSP ROM or something
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wheres the screenshot ?
are you referring to the white settings menu ? If so, Thats how it is !!
unless you flash an AOSP ROM or something
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Screenshot just mysteriously appeared after you read the post....
And thanks for the reply.....Mein Gott as they say somewhere in Europe WTF were HTC thinking of....real bummer.....will look into possibly bunging in a custom rom but this is my primary work phone so a bit wary for the time being...
What supplier are you on? Is it the same as screenshot?
Cheers m8
yes, That is Sense 4.0 And im on vodafone UK
Its not the carrier what makes it look like that, Its HTC
What a shame....like I said, for me it looks just too much like TouchWiz
What are you guys pros, cons, and recommendations.
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Great phone, few annoyances
Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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I hated that damn epic. this phone is superior in every way. contrary to the "bigger is better" hype, I like the size of the phone. It fits nicely in my hand and I don't have to be a contortionist to get my fingers across the screen. the only issue I have to complain about so far, besides the lack of toggles, is that if you have head phones or a bluetooth device connected, the notifications play thru it instead of the back speak. But that could user error on my part.. It isn't that much thicker than the original Photon. I'm holding them both in my hands right now and the weight isn't that much different either, especially for a slider. I'm not in to much of a hurry for any custom roms. but it would be nice to have root. I'm sure shabby or one of the other great devs will have that taken care of soon enough...
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Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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How about a widget? or maybe this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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How about a widget? or maybe this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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There are other alternatives, just giving 1 example.
So far, my thoughts on this device are that it is amazing! This could just be because i'm upgrading from a DROID Eris from Verizon, but this device does just about everything right!
The keyboard is by far the best one I've used on a mobile device, its very tactile and the back light is bright and adjustable. The phones performance is top notch, no lag in apps or just scrolling around. I've even gotten my ps1,n64,and gba emulators running great with keys mapped to the keypad
My internet browsing experience is been quite good, even though I'm still using sprint's 3g network, all websites load up quick and are smooth.
The screen looks fantastic, although it isn't full HD, colors are vibrant and watching videos is great on the phone. Overall, i am VERY pleased with the device so far, and i cant wait to see what developers have in store for it!
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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I just tossed the power control widget that's included on my home screen. While you can't get to it from everywhere, it's only one button away.
The only thing about this phone that I truly do not like is notification light. I don't like green XD
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I just tossed the power control widget that's included on my home screen. While you can't get to it from everywhere, it's only one button away.
The only thing about this phone that I truly do not like is notification light. I don't like green XD
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When that's your biggest gripe things are looking up for this phone
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If anyone buys/uses the HD Dock and/or the Vehicle Dock for the Q, I'd be highly interested in hearing your thoughts and experiences after a bit of time using those as well....just tossing that out there for present and future owners alike.
Found this fairly indepth impression post by someone over at Phandroid, worth a read by those considering buying:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/604051-my-impressions.html
Better than the Galaxy S III?
So, the question for me is how does it compare to the Galaxy SIII?
Well the sg3 was out because samsung does not update crap. So I was leaning towards the htc evo lte when I heard about the photon q. Sometimes I have to compose some sizable emails for work and the touch typing can get pretty frustrating in those situations, so I end up using my epics keyboard a lot. Even thought about getting the htc and a blackberry just for emails for work
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Well the sg3 was out because samsung does not update crap. So I was leaning towards the htc evo lte when I heard about the photon q. Sometimes I have to compose some sizable emails for work and the touch typing can get pretty frustrating in those situations, so I end up using my epics keyboard a lot. Even thought about getting the htc and a blackberry just for emails for work
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im really wondering where you are getting your sources for samsung doesnt update crap, as far as ive seen they have done a pretty decent job on sprint so far.
I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
The epic started with eclair. Updated to froyo n now has ginger bread stock. That's 2 major updates
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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i did actually, froyo came a little slower but i understand why, back then AOSP was really closed off towards just the nexus one. you want proof in that look at how long it took from eclair to froyo vs froyo to gb, samsung had based the nexus s off its samsung galaxy line so it was able to know how to have the code work on the humming bird a hell of a lot sooner. in fact the gingerbread update was posted the day ICS was announced, thus making the epic only 1 update "behind". granted its two now but its also past its two year mark (or rather tomorrow it will be, i remember picking mine up on august 31st 2010 launch day)
the epic 4g touch launched with gingerbread not that long ago it got ics and will prolly get jellybean someday. sgs3 launched with ICS and the tmo version already has leaks of JB, meaning it will prolly happen soon.
now lets compare that to the photon (im sure a few other moto phones fit this bill) launched with 2.3.4, after 7?8? months got an update to 2.3.5 instead of ICS, ICS is coming later this year which means it will only be one update behind until Key Lime is released this november, what do you think the odds are of the photon getting jellybean officially? so as of this november it will be 2 behind and stay that way, considering photon owners are 1 year into their 2 year agreement for that device doesnt leave a lot of hope.
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
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YOU!!! ;P
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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XD Helps if you know who you're talking to. He's pretty on point.
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i did actually, froyo came a little slower but i understand why, back then AOSP was really closed off towards just the nexus one. you want proof in that look at how long it took from eclair to froyo vs froyo to gb, samsung had based the nexus s off its samsung galaxy line so it was able to know how to have the code work on the humming bird a hell of a lot sooner. in fact the gingerbread update was posted the day ICS was announced, thus making the epic only 1 update "behind". granted its two now but its also past its two year mark (or rather tomorrow it will be, i remember picking mine up on august 31st 2010 launch day)
the epic 4g touch launched with gingerbread not that long ago it got ics and will prolly get jellybean someday. sgs3 launched with ICS and the tmo version already has leaks of JB, meaning it will prolly happen soon.
now lets compare that to the photon (im sure a few other moto phones fit this bill) launched with 2.3.4, after 7?8? months got an update to 2.3.5 instead of ICS, ICS is coming later this year which means it will only be one update behind until Key Lime is released this november, what do you think the odds are of the photon getting jellybean officially? so as of this november it will be 2 behind and stay that way, considering photon owners are 1 year into their 2 year agreement for that device doesnt leave a lot of hope.
YOU!!! ;P
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you nailed it right on the head.
I love when people don't realize me n you have been working on the epic since the beginning and we seen the phone grow and know what where talking about. Silly newbs
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you nailed it right on the head.
I love when people don't realize me n you have been working on the epic since the beginning and we seen the phone grow and know what where talking about. Silly newbs
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actually i tend to get confused when people mention me and epic. as i never did anything big for it, i leaked DK17 froyo build. i did the first linux/mac one click but i didnt do any roms or anything :/
Hello there, I am planning on buying the Newman N2 / Freelander i20 and was wondering if there are any custom roms that would potentionally work for it. I have searched around some but couldn't actually find any.
Artego said:
Hello there, I am planning on buying the Newman N2 / Freelander i20 and was wondering if there are any custom roms that would potentionally work for it. I have searched around some but couldn't actually find any.
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There is one custom rom out, if u can call it custom.. not worth looking at in my opinion.
You can find it here: http://vondroid.com/forums/custom-roms.219/
There are official roms as well on that forum.
On XDA there is some activities in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082275
I like my N2 and have it next to galaxy s3. I'm cooking some stuff as well, but time is a issue.
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There is one custom rom out, if u can call it custom.. not worth looking at in my opinion.
You can find it here: http://vondroid.com/forums/custom-roms.219/
There are official roms as well on that forum.
On XDA there is some activities in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082275
I like my N2 and have it next to galaxy s3. I'm cooking some stuff as well, but time is a issue.
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Sounds interesting,
I would love to see some more development for this phone. It's really a good deal compared to almost any western branded phone (that is still made in China or Taiwan or Korea anyways).. I'll take a look at vondroid, I already saw the S3 to Newman n2 port discussion but it seems that it is just people wanting it at this stage. Nice to hear you might be doing some stuff too
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Sounds interesting,
I would love to see some more development for this phone. It's really a good deal compared to almost any western branded phone (that is still made in China or Taiwan or Korea anyways).. I'll take a look at vondroid, I already saw the S3 to Newman n2 port discussion but it seems that it is just people wanting it at this stage. Nice to hear you might be doing some stuff too
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Additional question, on some sites it says the 3G chip is 2100/900mhz but on some it says 2100 only? Which one is it? Need to know this to see if 3G would work in my country.
It worth to try, more than nothing. Btw today comes the new version of libra and as I see another one already out.
Freelander I20 - Tapatalk 2
thanks for the links! :good:
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Additional question, on some sites it says the 3G chip is 2100/900mhz but on some it says 2100 only? Which one is it? Need to know this to see if 3G would work in my country.
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Network mode: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 2100
Bumping
I am thinking about getting this too,
Please can any of you tell me about the build quality and quality of screen compared to Galaxy S3 and One X.
Also how is the GPS accuracy and connectivity. Also how bright is camera flash?? Thank you!!
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I am thinking about getting this too,
Please can any of you tell me about the build quality and quality of screen compared to Galaxy S3 and One X.
Also how is the GPS accuracy and connectivity. Also how bright is camera flash?? Thank you!!
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build quality is good, very good, screen have nice quality and colors, but takes fingerprints very good too
GPS is fast, camera flash bright but not very, for me is good)
sorry for my bad english...
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build quality is good, very good, screen have nice quality and colors, but takes fingerprints very good too
GPS is fast, camera flash bright but not very, for me is good)
sorry for my bad english...
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Thank you! Are the issues with Google apps and rooting sorted out??
I heard (read ) that it's not possible to add Google account so can't sync contacts and Google stuff??
Are there any other minor issues?? like Wake locks LEDs not working, etc?? :good:
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Thank you! Are the issues with Google apps and rooting sorted out??
I heard (read ) that it's not possible to add Google account so can't sync contacts and Google stuff??
Are there any other minor issues?? like Wake locks LEDs not working, etc?? :good:
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Rooting works just fine, but gapps need some more ironing out. I am not getting google account type under add accounts, but can add it just fine through gmail. Some people reported sync issues.
Yesterday was released an unofficial MIUIv4 ROM for the Newman N2.
More info in this chinese forum thread,
h t t p://tieba.baidu.com/p/2130491766
Download link,
h t t p://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=205989&uk=3791923799#dir/path=%2FMIUIv4%2FMIUIv4%203.2.1
NHS2008 said:
I am thinking about getting this too,
Please can any of you tell me about the build quality and quality of screen compared to Galaxy S3 and One X.
Also how is the GPS accuracy and connectivity. Also how bright is camera flash?? Thank you!!
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I think that the build quality of n2 is much better than sgs3 (feels like a monolith)..screen colors of n2 are natural (amoled is real acid)...
DedPehto said:
I think that the build quality of n2 is much better than sgs3 (feels like a monolith)..screen colors of n2 are natural (amoled is real acid)...
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If you see my sig..
Newman n2 internet problem
Hi there,
can anyone help me out - give me a suggestion how to make the internet connection working with this Newman n2 phone.
My internet network is working - Virgin however i am unable to use internet on the phone.
I have contacted my virgin mobile provider and from their side the internet is ok, i can see as well that it shows that i am connected.
when i go to settings - under "about this phone" it shows that under "mobile network state" it says DISCONNECTED.
maybe this is the reason why my internet doesnt work?
can anyone please tell me how to make this work?
thank you
Eva
Let this topic live
Looking for som stable and fast ROM for N2
Or..it's better stay with stock?
chillout23 said:
Let this topic live
Looking for som stable and fast ROM for N2
Or..it's better stay with stock?
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Same question here? Have anyone try MIUI rom for Newman n2??
Newman N2
goxhajs said:
Same question here? Have anyone try MIUI rom for Newman n2??
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What up? Yes I have tried the MIUI rom and the Google rom I am busy trying the CleaN2 rom which looks to be the best by far.:good: