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Last week Vaizard420 got my attention by booting my Honeycomb on the D1. I promised to get a real port going for you guys, and here it is.
http://t3hh4xx0r.com/projects-2/dev-ports/honeycomb/d1
Working
Data (i think)
Touchscreen
Text Messages
Notification and softkey lights
Not Working
Wifi
Gps
Calls (Honeycomb doesn't come with a phone app)
Hardware acceleration
Simple auto rotation
Camera
Downloads
OMHC_sholes.zip
Donate to help me get a D1, I can get one for $50.
Crazy wild stuff.
haha omg cant believe you making this one as well
Pretty pumped your creating this, knowing how well ur doing on the other port for TB
The sense 3.0 stuff? Haven't touched it recently.
I have my hands in everything xD
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is that zip file the one in the video?
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is that zip file the one in the video?
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yes it is.
not sure, just use the top link to get the one in the video
Ya. I haven't watched the video but thats the one the tester sent me.
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Can't wait for wifi and gps to be finished!!!! Simply amazing work guys!
So what all would be required to get calls working on this? Is it just a matter of getting a phone app on there or is it a more complex problem? Id love to see this get to be a full fledged, stable rom.
It won't ever have working phone stuff.
This is honeycomb, not meant for phones
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You could have a duel boot setup to have both in one device, easier than switching backups. I'm gonna give this a run, any kernels work best for this?
Loaded this up, slow I expected. No on board keyboard that I got to work. The physical keyboard did not have functional numbers that I got to work. I could not get the power button to work either.Nice work though, looks good.
So, sent from my mobile. What's new?
sorry to bother, but i've a question.. i've got a samsung i9003 that has chipset mostly identical to droid, the rest of the hardware is different, i know, phone,gps,wifi,etc. it is possible to recompile kernel from milestone to samsung, knowing the differences,and adding the kernel modules to make it work? gingerbread for this phone is arriving next month,but no rom have been spotted, but i hopo... sorry to invade your section, but i wanted to ask to some developers and i hope a good reply... sorry for my english.
True, the original software isnt meant for phones BUT, he just managed to boot it on a phone, opening up the possibilty phone use. I want to know whats required to get it working.
I loaded up the rom and it works but there are missing elements, without them it is pretty much useless. I had no wifi or data so I could not load anything on it. Neat to play with though, needs a 1000 MHz kernel just to tinker with.
kind make me happy i made the choice of buying this phone in july last summer.
How about root access? Flashed another overclock kernel pushed setcpu but no root access
Very impressive although for phone use doesn't do much there. Plus I can't use the power switch to shut device on and off
did this project die? hopefully not just seems no development has happened in a while
Really, its not going to get any better than this. Only reason I ported it to my phone was because I wanted to see what it would look like. Then people started requesting ports. This was never and will never be anything close to a DD. Its just something fun to flash and play with for a minute, then go back to your ctual rom.
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Guys what are the odds of stock android rom hacked on to the Sammy Charge???
Wondering what others are thinking?
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The odds are better than the odds that you took time to read the Development board where there are 2 ROMs available
and most likely a 3rd one soon by the dev that did the Liberty ROM the Tesla ROM.....
But if all you care about is this CM ROM; go get something else.
I'm sure there will be one eventually, but if you want it within the next month, I'd look elsewhere, as there are no guarantees as to when it will come or how functional it will be.
Lol @ Shotgunsams great response.
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@shotgunsam...... Ummmm roms available. There all spruced up TouchWiz tweaks.
I am meaning a true Rom not built ontop of touchwiz.
Either i was looking for hope of one. Since the fascinate never got one.
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Uh, did you read the descriptions of the ROMs? DroidXCon gives you LauncherPro, other launchers soon to come, and imnuts has a streamlined ROM with the default AOSP launcher. Both completely remove TW launcher, according to the descriptions.
I too would love to see CM7 for this device. But the fact is, there are a few great ROM's available already, which is incredible considering the phone has only been out for two weeks! I really appreciate the hard work of the devs, and can't wait to see what's available in the coming weeks.
I got the DI when it first came out. First it was when will it get root. Root was a ***** becasue it was so random it worked with some sd cards and some it did not. There were methods of clicking your sd card in and out which actually worked for me. Not a day latter everyone was *****ing about roms. When will we get this or that rom. Look at almost 1 year later and there are crazy amount of roms. It takes time be patient and look forward to what is coming. Crap I am typing this and I don't even get my charge till tuesday. I hate touchwiz I will root,rom,replace launcher with one of my choosing. If I hate something will just get another phone 6 8 months down the road but really not concerned about it at this point. I think in time it will be like every other phone tons of awesome roms from great developers. Liberty was one of if not the best roms for the droidx which I own. Just knowing they same people that worked on that rom is doing stuff for charge has me stoked.
Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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No way of saying will it get cwm7 or not. I will say the Droid x has a locked boot loader but Liberty rom was amazing. They put a ton of details and tweeks so that you could change things they way you want. As much as you could anyways with a locked boot loader. The developers of that rom did a great job with what they had to work with. Now if they are dev for this phone and it is fully unlocked. Wow no dobut will they put out a awesome rom for it. Now I have every intention to installing the best roms out for this phone when I get it tuesday. Developers deserve not only our thanks but donations as well. Thank you guys that put in all the hard work making our phones run crazy cool.
Unlike other skins tw is small and really is easy to remove. I've deleted alot and it still is functioning. Sense roms=200MB touchwiz=100MB and idk about blur
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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Well Samsung released the kernel source pretty much immediately didn't they? Also didn't Samsung say they were going to be better about releasing that kind of stuff, and also keeping bootloaders more open? So this could be a real possibility. Although if you know what your removing, I would assume like HTC Sense, you can pretty much take a TW based rom and completely remove TW and have it work fine.
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
https://opensource.samsung.com/
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Alcoholic Dali said:
587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
https://opensource.samsung.com/
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We need ril source, the old cdma ril is bad, and now with lte thrown in...
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Well Samsung released the kernel source pretty much immediately didn't they? Also didn't Samsung say they were going to be better about releasing that kind of stuff, and also keeping bootloaders more open? So this could be a real possibility. Although if you know what your removing, I would assume like HTC Sense, you can pretty much take a TW based rom and completely remove TW and have it work fine.
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Kernel source isn't full source. Im not saying we won't get cm6/7, it's just going to take time.
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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You do know that the Fascinate is knocking on the door to get full CM7 support don't you? Honestly, if you didn't like the Fascinate, you won't like the Charge, and based on your posts here, I don't think you ever like any android phone as they all seem to have one problem or another.
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587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
https://opensource.samsung.com/
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The reason the download is so big is that Samsung didn't clean out the kernel source tree after building, and tar'd up the source files as well as the built binaries (and all the other generated files). After you download, do "make distclean" and you'll save yourself some space and get rid of the useless files.
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Guys what are the odds of stock android rom hacked on to the Sammy Charge???
Wondering what others are thinking?
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Apparently a lot of people are having trouble understanding the question. lol
I been wondering the same thing though. I have a good feeling about CM getting on bored eventually, it's what I'm looking foreward to the most with this phone. I miss having my notification bar on the bottom of my phone like I did with my D'Inc... lol
The only reason I say I "think" that it has a good chance getting CM support is because it seems, besides the Fascinate, they have been doing a great job cracking down on Samsung phones lately in the past few months. Besides the more phone supported by them, the better and the more recongnition they get. Until then ADW Ex is working fine for me.
Shout out to CM for all the awesome hard work.
@mozes316 cool. Nice of you to give a thought without going haywire on me like some others. Lol
Im a big android purest fan.
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mozes316 said:
Apparently a lot of people are having trouble understanding the question. lol
I been wondering the same thing though. I have a good feeling about CM getting on bored eventually, it's what I'm looking foreward to the most with this phone. I miss having my notification bar on the bottom of my phone like I did with my D'Inc... lol
The only reason I say I "think" that it has a good chance getting CM support is because it seems, besides the Fascinate, they have been doing a great job cracking down on Samsung phones lately in the past few months. Besides the more phone supported by them, the better and the more recongnition they get. Until then ADW Ex is working fine for me.
Shout out to CM for all the awesome hard work.
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You looked into the epic cm7 builds? Lots of issues.
Any cdma phone is having serious issues with the porting.
Not trying to flame anyone by any means. Just informing people of what I feel is overlooked...
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You looked into the epic cm7 builds? Lots of issues.
Any cdma phone is having serious issues with the porting.
Not trying to flame anyone by any means. Just informing people of what I feel is overlooked...
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Coming from the original Incredible (CDMA) Rooting and ROMing was a breeze and also received CM support pretty quickly. If anything, I would think that the 4G radio would be the hardest work around. You never know though.
new forum scent is still here
Finally
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Glad to see a forum, I bought this device for my mom and hope to see devs get behind it. With an unlockable bootloader, anything can be done with the device
Since there are no mods here yet, can I be the first troll? *starts grafting the walls*
lol jk
why is it taking soooo long to restore 8600 text messages??? Actually, why does it not limit people to 300 like I checked. Would knock off a couple thousand easy. i have limits set in gosms and stock to no avail.
And it feels weird having a phone that doesn't say Samsung on it. It's been about four years. Would've been longer if Sammy would've made the i550.
Will say, the Q charges a lot quicker than the Epic ever did with or without a charge only cable. Keys have a bit more travel than the Epic's. Doesn't feel like a good thing at the moment, but I'm sure it's more of just what I'm used to. Same goes for the tab key, weird punctuation placement and the annoying on screen keys. What's the point of having onscreen buttons if there is so much bezel space at the bottom. Phone feels light and plasticy, but not in a bad way. At least there's no chromed plastic. Slider seems solid. Screen is definitely bright. Colors aren't oversaturated, and I still see a touch of pixelization that probably would be non existent if it were HD and not qHD.
Hopefully there will be some worthwhile development for this thing. Cheers all.
Damn!!!! hurry Advocate phone I am rocking an S2 and S3 right now so dont know how this is gonna top them but eh they are giving me one so I am going to learn it and use it to the best of my abilitys! had good experience on the original mopho expect them same here.
Shabby you in on this device ....... then all is well
wheres the love guys? there was more forum activity before you guys got rooted.
Hectic weekend, and my slider is loose. Going to call and get it switched out. Will root and nandroid once I know I can get a new phone so I can do an easy restore.
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wheres the love guys? there was more forum activity before you guys got rooted.
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Bought this device for my mom, will be rooting it this weekend and starting the debloat. Hope to see the community around this grow, maybe even get a CM maintainer. This has the specs to make it through a few Android OS releases
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Bought this device for my mom, will be rooting it this weekend and starting the debloat. Hope to see the community around this grow, maybe even get a CM maintainer. This has the specs to make it through a few Android OS releases
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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you are awesome
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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Do you have a tree up? I saw there's kernel source from Moto...
I was looking at buying this device, and I want to put TWRP 2.0 and AOKP on it. I'd love to help ya .
i handed the device tree off to dees_troy since he did the photon twrp himself before i imagine he will prolly do this one as well twrp currently doesnt boot
as for device trees i got sick of so many cwm ports back in teh froyo days not having source up so i do everything in my power to ensure people can get it https://github.com/Shabbypenguin/android_device_moto_asanti
as for aokp/cm and the like i tried to compile CM9 and it threw a bit fit. thats about where im gunna stop
You've been thanked, this should at least get me somewheres. Would like to see some good ROM's for this beast
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You've been thanked, this should at least get me somewheres. Would like to see some good ROM's for this beast
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give me some time and ill have us some goodies, buying this phone real soon, and will port over what I've done for the photon to the q (not saying I'm going to port from photon)... in case you don't know of me....I've taken on miui, aokp, aokpcb, cm9, cna,.paranoid android, and themed/tweaked stock ....I've had alot of great friends helping me through them, so in no way can I take full credit for them but I'm certain I should be able to do the same for the q.....
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Hell yeah I've heard of you and enjoyed your work. I can't wait to see what you put together for the Q.
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Alright! I am getting CM9 and will work with some other peoples to get Shabby's device tree fleshed out. Hopefully we can get that up and running pretty quickly so we can move onto CM10/AOKP
Also, I ordered the phone today - hope to have it here soon!
My wifey wants this phone but she said she wants to wait till ROMs come out for it. Was shocked when she said that I think I got her spoiled on ROMs from her epic 4g lol.
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why is it taking soooo long to restore 8600 text messages??? Actually, why does it not limit people to 300 like I checked. Would knock off a couple thousand easy. i have limits set in gosms and stock to no avail.
And it feels weird having a phone that doesn't say Samsung on it. It's been about four years. Would've been longer if Sammy would've made the i550.
Will say, the Q charges a lot quicker than the Epic ever did with or without a charge only cable. Keys have a bit more travel than the Epic's. Doesn't feel like a good thing at the moment, but I'm sure it's more of just what I'm used to. Same goes for the tab key, weird punctuation placement and the annoying on screen keys. What's the point of having onscreen buttons if there is so much bezel space at the bottom. Phone feels light and plasticy, but not in a bad way. At least there's no chromed plastic. Slider seems solid. Screen is definitely bright. Colors aren't oversaturated, and I still see a touch of pixelization that probably would be non existent if it were HD and not qHD.
Hopefully there will be some worthwhile development for this thing. Cheers all.
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AGREE was so upset there was no hd screen,jokersax,shabby,spleef,th3bill made my MoPho (og photon) so awesome.tegra rox!! now new photon ,no hd, yucky keyboard,and no quad tegra. LEFT and went to gnex!!!! done with MOTO.soooooo loved and still love og photon
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give me some time and ill have us some goodies, buying this phone real soon, and will port over what I've done for the photon to the q (not saying I'm going to port from photon)... in case you don't know of me....I've taken on miui, aokp, aokpcb, cm9, cna,.paranoid android, and themed/tweaked stock ....I've had alot of great friends helping me through them, so in no way can I take full credit for them but I'm certain I should be able to do the same for the q.....
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I second this comment,ya all made my photon fun bro. your top notch spleef. too bad moto went backwords with q,accept 1.5 gig but no tegra and tegra rox.memories of shadowrom
Wow
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What are you guys pros, cons, and recommendations.
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Great phone, few annoyances
Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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I hated that damn epic. this phone is superior in every way. contrary to the "bigger is better" hype, I like the size of the phone. It fits nicely in my hand and I don't have to be a contortionist to get my fingers across the screen. the only issue I have to complain about so far, besides the lack of toggles, is that if you have head phones or a bluetooth device connected, the notifications play thru it instead of the back speak. But that could user error on my part.. It isn't that much thicker than the original Photon. I'm holding them both in my hands right now and the weight isn't that much different either, especially for a slider. I'm not in to much of a hurry for any custom roms. but it would be nice to have root. I'm sure shabby or one of the other great devs will have that taken care of soon enough...
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Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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How about a widget? or maybe this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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How about a widget? or maybe this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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There are other alternatives, just giving 1 example.
So far, my thoughts on this device are that it is amazing! This could just be because i'm upgrading from a DROID Eris from Verizon, but this device does just about everything right!
The keyboard is by far the best one I've used on a mobile device, its very tactile and the back light is bright and adjustable. The phones performance is top notch, no lag in apps or just scrolling around. I've even gotten my ps1,n64,and gba emulators running great with keys mapped to the keypad
My internet browsing experience is been quite good, even though I'm still using sprint's 3g network, all websites load up quick and are smooth.
The screen looks fantastic, although it isn't full HD, colors are vibrant and watching videos is great on the phone. Overall, i am VERY pleased with the device so far, and i cant wait to see what developers have in store for it!
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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I just tossed the power control widget that's included on my home screen. While you can't get to it from everywhere, it's only one button away.
The only thing about this phone that I truly do not like is notification light. I don't like green XD
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I just tossed the power control widget that's included on my home screen. While you can't get to it from everywhere, it's only one button away.
The only thing about this phone that I truly do not like is notification light. I don't like green XD
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When that's your biggest gripe things are looking up for this phone
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If anyone buys/uses the HD Dock and/or the Vehicle Dock for the Q, I'd be highly interested in hearing your thoughts and experiences after a bit of time using those as well....just tossing that out there for present and future owners alike.
Found this fairly indepth impression post by someone over at Phandroid, worth a read by those considering buying:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/604051-my-impressions.html
Better than the Galaxy S III?
So, the question for me is how does it compare to the Galaxy SIII?
Well the sg3 was out because samsung does not update crap. So I was leaning towards the htc evo lte when I heard about the photon q. Sometimes I have to compose some sizable emails for work and the touch typing can get pretty frustrating in those situations, so I end up using my epics keyboard a lot. Even thought about getting the htc and a blackberry just for emails for work
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Well the sg3 was out because samsung does not update crap. So I was leaning towards the htc evo lte when I heard about the photon q. Sometimes I have to compose some sizable emails for work and the touch typing can get pretty frustrating in those situations, so I end up using my epics keyboard a lot. Even thought about getting the htc and a blackberry just for emails for work
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im really wondering where you are getting your sources for samsung doesnt update crap, as far as ive seen they have done a pretty decent job on sprint so far.
I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
The epic started with eclair. Updated to froyo n now has ginger bread stock. That's 2 major updates
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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i did actually, froyo came a little slower but i understand why, back then AOSP was really closed off towards just the nexus one. you want proof in that look at how long it took from eclair to froyo vs froyo to gb, samsung had based the nexus s off its samsung galaxy line so it was able to know how to have the code work on the humming bird a hell of a lot sooner. in fact the gingerbread update was posted the day ICS was announced, thus making the epic only 1 update "behind". granted its two now but its also past its two year mark (or rather tomorrow it will be, i remember picking mine up on august 31st 2010 launch day)
the epic 4g touch launched with gingerbread not that long ago it got ics and will prolly get jellybean someday. sgs3 launched with ICS and the tmo version already has leaks of JB, meaning it will prolly happen soon.
now lets compare that to the photon (im sure a few other moto phones fit this bill) launched with 2.3.4, after 7?8? months got an update to 2.3.5 instead of ICS, ICS is coming later this year which means it will only be one update behind until Key Lime is released this november, what do you think the odds are of the photon getting jellybean officially? so as of this november it will be 2 behind and stay that way, considering photon owners are 1 year into their 2 year agreement for that device doesnt leave a lot of hope.
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
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YOU!!! ;P
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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XD Helps if you know who you're talking to. He's pretty on point.
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i did actually, froyo came a little slower but i understand why, back then AOSP was really closed off towards just the nexus one. you want proof in that look at how long it took from eclair to froyo vs froyo to gb, samsung had based the nexus s off its samsung galaxy line so it was able to know how to have the code work on the humming bird a hell of a lot sooner. in fact the gingerbread update was posted the day ICS was announced, thus making the epic only 1 update "behind". granted its two now but its also past its two year mark (or rather tomorrow it will be, i remember picking mine up on august 31st 2010 launch day)
the epic 4g touch launched with gingerbread not that long ago it got ics and will prolly get jellybean someday. sgs3 launched with ICS and the tmo version already has leaks of JB, meaning it will prolly happen soon.
now lets compare that to the photon (im sure a few other moto phones fit this bill) launched with 2.3.4, after 7?8? months got an update to 2.3.5 instead of ICS, ICS is coming later this year which means it will only be one update behind until Key Lime is released this november, what do you think the odds are of the photon getting jellybean officially? so as of this november it will be 2 behind and stay that way, considering photon owners are 1 year into their 2 year agreement for that device doesnt leave a lot of hope.
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you nailed it right on the head.
I love when people don't realize me n you have been working on the epic since the beginning and we seen the phone grow and know what where talking about. Silly newbs
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MysteryEmotionz said:
you nailed it right on the head.
I love when people don't realize me n you have been working on the epic since the beginning and we seen the phone grow and know what where talking about. Silly newbs
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actually i tend to get confused when people mention me and epic. as i never did anything big for it, i leaked DK17 froyo build. i did the first linux/mac one click but i didnt do any roms or anything :/
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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So far the mods to TW have been quite impressive, Nottach's Framework for example and P-ROM. Still would very much like a true pure Android experience that I can play with and mod myself. Can't do that without the bootloader unlock though but I can definitely live with what we got for quite a while if I had too
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery. What are you talking about?
And OP, I think I'm having the same dilemma...the mods that have come out for TW have been amazing - and honestly I don't know of any specific features on AOSP ROMs that I DON'T have right now.
And let's be real, I enjoy it when people were are like, "ooh, is that an S4?" And I respond by turning off a random TV in the area, or by scrolling through my gallery just by waving my hand. I'd miss that I think
So yeah I'll definitely unlock once available, but I'll most likely stick with stock-based ROMs too.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery.
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Your right, I was actually commenting on his TW opinion, it is a comment. And I prefer TW roms also. more stable.
Choice is always a good thing, just because you have a unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you have to get rid of tw.
For me I always like to just fix what ever I feel is wrong or missing or locked out from a stock rom.
At the end of the day people have to use what makes then happy.
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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It's all good. I've woken up a few times still half asleep having that same problem.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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I am surprised to find I am starting to feel the same way. I've modified, configured and optimized the stock ROM quite a bit now and it is running very nicely. Looking forward to flashing a custom recovery so I can backup and restore and experiment with what's out there, but it's going to be a tough decision to run modified stock versus CM. I have also found battery life to be excellent with the Stock ROM.
Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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I jump back and forth between these two ends of the opinion spectrum in regards to TW and Samsung's (AT&T's) stock ROM. This is probably the first android phone that I could honestly be okay with never flashing a custom rom on. I will still unlock the bootloader when it becomes available. I will still flash a custom recovery (nandroid backups are a really nice thing to have, and I'm disappointed that carriers don't include this) when it becomes available as well. I *might* flash a custom rom based on the stock rom, but I think I'd rather stick to stock as much as possible, at least for some time.
As for the gimmicky features it comes with, I sort of agree, yet it's fun to show off to friends. I normally keep the gestures and eye scrolling turned off, and I keep the NFC turned off when not in use. I did buy the $9.99 remote app, and I'm surprisingly content with it. I need to offer some feedback about being able to actually drag/drop to change the order of the buttons on the other screen, but otherwise it's so much better than the WatchOn stuff that I have recently frozen using TiBu.
And on to speaking of freezing apps. With root, I'm pretty content. I can use TiBu Pro (to anyone reading this, go buy the Pro version - it's completely worth it!!) to freeze all the bloatware that I don't like. Every few days since I got my phone, I re-evaluate the list in TiBu and check into any blaotware I haven't frozen yet. "Do I need this? Have I used this? Nope! Frozen." I've done this for nearly all of the "Samsung ____" apps, including the Samsung store and all the associated apps (Samsung account, etc.). Did the same for every "AT&T ___" app that it came with - they're all garbage to me. Next on my list to evaluate and possibly freeze is all the printing services - do I really need to print from my phone? Maybe if it were my work phone...
I suppose one good reason I would want to flash a customized stock-based rom would be to free up some space. Having a 16gb version is no different than my S2 was... but I definitely had a few more GB's of room to store all the cool photos. And with larger picture files, and a faster camera, the storage is suddenly a bit more important to me.
And finally, the camera, and its associated apps/modes. I see a lot of people freezing some of the apps that allow some of the cool modes this camera can use. I'm not a professional photographer, but I love taking awesome pictures with this phone. It rival's my wife's Nikon 9300 point-and-shoot, with the exception of the Nikon's zoom lens. But as far as features and quality are concerned, it's possibly better.
This thing has been pretty smooth since day negative-one for me. Even better when we got root and the bloatware was frozen. Even snappier and better on battery once that first OTA dropped. I'm pretty impressed, and it certainly is a huge step up from my S2 running CM10.1.
TL;DR: I really like the stock rom and all the cool things it offers. The performance is great. I do like some of the gimmicky things, even if I rarely use them. With the root ability to freeze things I don't use, I could definitely see keeping this thing "stock" for this device's lifetime.
PS: It's also nice to see the "Official" status, as though I haven't violated the phone too badly...
Couldn't agree more. As you all mentioned, the security of having a custom recovery + Nandroid really opens up a lot of ground for flashing new mods and having the comfort of that fallback instead of only being able to Odin back to stock if I jack something up (which has NEVER happened or anything...lol).
@Aou I too use a Titanium Backup Pro and freeze the bloat. But I kept the Samsung Apps because it had some that you can't find on Google like the Video Editor app.
Let me remind you that the Xposed framework adds new functionality without the need to flash roms. As you can see from the screen shot I was able to mod the screen without touching the framework. Easy and reversible.
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I don't unlock and root my devices to get rid of the stock interface (Touchwiz, Sense etc) i simply do it for a better rom with tweaks that makes it faster and battery life better..
and when i finally get sick of my stock interface ill flash a AOSP rom
i know some people disagree but i think the stock rom on this phone is laggy.. even after disabling S Voice and Smart stay/Air view
Wierd I couldn't add the image.
There we go lol
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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dunno if anyone else pointed this out to you yet, but even without s beam, non touchwiz phones still all have Android Beam (you know.. the concept S Beam was based off of?)
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Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone?
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O you must be working in an extra clean environment. I know I don't. My hands get dirty often and these air gestures work for me.
Aside from that, what I am looking forward to is being able to have a pattern unlock And lock screen widgets at the same time. Unless Samsung releases an update for that.
Already a thread on this a few threads away