[Q] question for radio with or without RIL - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

hi , recently i read a article about the ril of the radio. so i just now confused which one i should choose. as i know, mohan radio is no ril radio. and seanz radio is ril included radio. i search some online and the terms are too professional to understand. i am totally noob. so anyone can give me some advice to choose the radio. i use cm9 now .
if i want to flash some radio to test the signal, which person i can choose????? mohans no ril radio or seanz radio ??? what is the different affect i will get if i flash ril or no ril radio ???? thanks

christianxin said:
hi , recently i read a article about the ril of the radio. so i just now confused which one i should choose. as i know, mohan radio is no ril radio. and seanz radio is ril included radio. i search some online and the terms are too professional to understand. i am totally noob. so anyone can give me some advice to choose the radio. i use cm9 now .
if i want to flash some radio to test the signal, which person i can choose????? mohans no ril radio or seanz radio ??? what is the different affect i will get if i flash ril or no ril radio ???? thanks
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I can't give you an exact answer as to what the results would be but if it were me I would flash the one with the ril(radio interface library) as far as I know each radio has its own corresponding ril.
For example, if right now you have ucla2 radio and ril on your device and you flash ucla3 radio with no ril you'll be left with a ucla3 radio and a ucla2 ril. Again I'm no expert but I hope this helps:beer:
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most people said the same with you , however some others said the cm9 have already merged the uclf6 files in there roms , so no need the ril from radio any more . anyone can confirm that for us . please .

christianxin said:
most people said the same with you , however some others said the cm9 have already merged the uclf6 files in there roms , so no need the ril from radio any more . anyone can confirm that for us . please .
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Can't confirm it but if the uclf6 ril files are in there, technically there would be no need to flash a radio with the ril files included. But!.....its not going to hurt anything if you do flash a radio with the ril files included. Again, if it were me, I would flash the radio with the ril files included in the .zip:thumbup:
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Hi,
check this answer by mohan.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31055899&postcount=299

erykz said:
Hi,
check this answer by mohan.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31055899&postcount=299
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according to mohan , ril file is already in Samsung roms , how about CM 9?

christianxin said:
according to mohan , ril file is already in Samsung roms , how about CM 9?
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If you'd just flash the one with the ril it wouldn't matter lol :banghead:
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Ril for new stock radio 26.06.06.30

Been looking high and low. Anyone know where I can locate the ril for the new stock radio 26.06.06.30 radio?
Thanks!
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Yup, go to ROM Manager, download ROM, gtg465x's section and choose RIL Flasher.
Or go to my thread in development and download my multi-part zip file.
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mj0528 said:
Been looking high and low. Anyone know where I can locate the ril for the new stock radio 26.06.06.30 radio?
Thanks!
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Here You Go Enjoy!!!
RIL 26.06.06.30 M
mj0528 said:
Been looking high and low. Anyone know where I can locate the ril for the new stock radio 26.06.06.30 radio?
Thanks!
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RILs here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
pollux1151 said:
RILs here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
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the RIL he is looking for is not even in that thread
plus i already posted the RIL he was looking for
The package you linked does not flash from "recovery" on my phone... Can you please tell me how I can flash that RIL, and also do you know what specific RIL it will install?
The RIL for 26.06.06.30 that was on my phone from the ATT update was 2.2.0131HM, and that was also the RIL that stayed on my phone after installing attn1's ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
According to the [RIL] Radio Interface Libraries thread under hd desire android development (page 31, post 306, cocchiararo), the proper 26.06.06.30 RIL is 2.2.0079HM.
0079HM was released on January 14, while 0131HM was released on March 18. Apologies to cocchiararo, but it does not make sense to me that the older RIL would match the newer radio???
Update: This link from cocchiararo gave me "recovery" flashable RIL files to try... I still don't know for sure which is the proper match for 26.06.06.30, but my walk out to the driveway check showed substantially better GPS signal with 0131HM. Way better in fact.
http://www.megaupload.com/?f=W60N0F8K
Also here is a link to the hd desire discussion on the topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986&page=31
What is a RIL?
baydcsr said:
What is a RIL?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Interface_Layer
Is there still any word on which RIL is proper? 0131 or 079? Same radio, ATT 26.06.06.30 for HTC Inspire on CM7.0.3 LordMod kernel.
either its my phone or its the radio but i flashed that newest radio and ril and internet is so slow, speed tests give me less then 1MB down im not sure what the issue is
I got the same problem too. DL I get 2.5 MB max and UL I get 1.5 MB....I have no idea what the problem is!
If you go to the download section in rom manger, and go to gtg465x's section he has a ril downloader. You can grab the ril for the newest stock radio there.
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For those of you having slowdown issues with the new radio and/or RIL, be sure to run multiple tests to multiple locations over several days and differing times of day before making judgment. AT&T network speeds are extremely sporadic. There have been a couple of days in a row that I can't get more than 2 MB/s anywhere, and then all of a sudden on the 3rd or 4th day I get a 6MB/s run (with no changes done to my phone over that time period) and then speeds may slow back down for a while starting the next day. So just give it time before reflashing or whatever. Presumably, the stock radio and RIL have been tested and certified by HTC and AT&T engineers to run properly on their network, so there is usually no reason to immediately suspect the radio/RIL if you're getting slow speeds. Of course there are always exceptions to this, it's just a rule of thumb, and of course the new radio/RIL weren't certified to run on anything but the stock ROM. However, most people are having extremely good results with this radio/RIL on a wide variety of Froyo/Gingerbread, Sense/AOSP ROMs.

Err no Q&A

Hey guys,short and sweet,I'm running inspired ace and I've been getting static phone calls and dropped calls but before everything was perfect. I have perfect coverage here with huspa+. Can I use the stock radio?
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I do not see why it would be a problem to run stock...many say it is better to keep stock then flashing other radios anyways(from a effectiveness standpoint).
brd912 said:
Hey guys,short and sweet,I'm running inspired ace and I've been getting static phone calls and dropped calls but before everything was perfect. I have perfect coverage here with huspa+. Can I use the stock radio?
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Well, if you've never flashed a different radio, then you are already using the stock one... Flashing a rom doesn't touch the radio itself.
You may want to check your RIL, which does affect the radio's performance and can be different from rom to rom (this ends up resulting in radio-RIL mismatching because people aren't necessarily using the exact radio that the RIL packaged in the rom corresponds to).
Inspired ace, uses the RIL for the 04.11 radio [<- corrected from original post], by default, so if that's not the radio you are using, then you should go to gtg's rom section and use his RIL flasher to get the right RIL. That's assuming that he has the RIL listed for the particular radio you are using, which most likely he will.
(Edit: corrects wrong radio version I had stated originally.)
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Scott_S said:
Well, if you've never flashed a different radio, then you are already using the stock one... Flashing a rom doesn't touch the radio itself.
You may want to check your RIL, which does affect the radio's performance and can be different from rom to rom (this ends up resulting in radio-RIL mismatching because people aren't necessarily using the exact radio that the RIL packaged in the rom corresponds to).
Inspired ace, I believe, uses the RIL for the 04.14 radio, by default, so if that's not the radio you are using, then you should go to gtg's rom section and use his RIL flasher to get the right RIL. That's assuming that he has the RIL listed for the particular radio you are using, which most likely he will.
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By default Inspired Ace runs the 4.11 RIL (b/c gtg has personally had great luck with it) I flashed the 06.06.30 radio (most current from AT&T) and gtg's RIL flasher has the RIL for this and the 06.04.xx stock Inspire radio.
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By default Inspired Ace runs the 4.11 RIL (b/c gtg has personally had great luck with it) I flashed the 06.06.30 radio (most current from AT&T) and gtg's RIL flasher has the RIL for this and the 06.04.xx stock Inspire radio.
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Unless gtg has updated the RIL flasher recently, it isn't using the matched RIL for 06.06.30. The RIL that came with radio 06.06.30 was 2.2.0079HM, but the RIL flasher is using RIL 2.2.0131HM. If you want to check your RIL version, open a terminal window and type these commands:
su
getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"
Personally I haven't found much, if any, difference between RIL 79 and 131 performance wise. Both work quite well, on CM7 anyway.
I can vouch that my RIL is version HTC-RIL 2.2.079HM (Jan 14 2011,14:56:03), and I installed it using gtg's RIL flasher yesterday.
ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I can vouch that my RIL is version HTC-RIL 2.2.079HM (Jan 14 2011,14:56:03), and I installed it using gtg's RIL flasher yesterday.
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OK perfect...he updated it.
Wow,so with me running inspired ace does anyone have any helpful opinions as to which one I should use? Or could someone give me a link to the most recent at&t radio? Sorry for my newbyish but these HTC's are far more complicated than the samsungs
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ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
By default Inspired Ace runs the 4.11 RIL (b/c gtg has personally had great luck with it) I flashed the 06.06.30 radio (most current from AT&T) and gtg's RIL flasher has the RIL for this and the 06.04.xx stock Inspire radio.
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Thanks for the correction. Updating my original reply so as to keep erroneous info to a minimum.
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brd912 said:
Wow,so with me running inspired ace does anyone have any helpful opinions as to which one I should use? Or could someone give me a link to the most recent at&t radio? Sorry for my newbyish but these HTC's are far more complicated than the samsungs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
The newest AT&T radio is the first one in the second post (12.39a.60.19_26.06.06.30_M). Download that.
Check the hash (I use hashcalc on windows) because a bad radio can brick your phone.
Copy the file to the root of your SD card and make sure it's named PD98IMG.zip.
Turn off fast boot and reboot to hboot (Hold vol down + power until you boot to hboot).
Press power for fastboot.
Let it find the update.
Choose "yes" to flash it (I think you push vol up to accept).
Let it do it's thing.
Go to gtg's section in ROM download in ROM manager
Select his RIL flasher and choose the RIL for 06.06.30. I didn't wipe anything for this, but I did reboot twice.

TMOUS ROMs

Is there a list of ROMs that are full TMOUS support out of the box?
Yes, they all are. Have you been experiencing problems?
As far as I know, as long as you have super CID you can choose whatever ROM you want. The only problem you might have is a loss of data speeds, since most recommend a particular radio (although I'm on CoreDroid 2.0 with stock TMOUS radio and I've experienced no drop in speeds, even though they recommend getting the latest radio). If you want to ensure no loss in data speeds or are afraid of flashing radios (like me), stick with the ROMs that say TMOUS in the thread title. All the guys who make TMOUS specific ROMs include it either in the thread title or in the first post.
Edit: I shouldn't say the ONLY thing that can happen is a loss of data speeds, because sometimes you lose the ability to do wifi calling or the 4G icon is switched to an H, etc., but most of the devs have addressed these issues and either offer patches or include the fix in the ROM.
So do I have to flash a radio or the radio sticks after a ROM flash? Any recommended ROMs for TMOUS with battery life/performance and Sense? Would like some good aesthetics but don't need any crazy features.
BUMP.......
I wish they would separate the ROMS here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16281566&postcount=2
Just click on every single one. Look at user If hes from USA in the first post.
Your radio will stick after flashing a new ROM. Just make sure you always flash the RIL file matching your radio version.
Edit: you shouldn't have to worry about whether the ROM is tmous based if you flash the appropriate RIL file.
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Super CID allows any rom to be flashed as stated above
moh0 said:
Your radio will stick after flashing a new ROM. Just make sure you always flash the RIL file matching your radio version.
Edit: you shouldn't have to worry about whether the ROM is tmous based if you flash the appropriate RIL file.
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Where do I find RIL/how do I know? Do all devs have diff RILs?
I'm using InsertCoin 2.2.2 with latest radio, you don't need to flash any RIL and it is working good in TMOUS. I didn't see any problems.
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hah2110 said:
Where do I find RIL/how do I know? Do all devs have diff RILs?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867
Just download the one for tmous. Chefs don't usually state which RIL they have cooked in their roms. Get in the habit of flashing the RIL whenever you switch roms.
Flashed LeeDroid on my wife's phone without updating the radio that Lee really recommended. So it has whatever radio that shipped on it to T-Mobile US and she has had no problem whatsoever.
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Fixing a GPS issue on cm7

I am targetting the "gps icon doesn't even pop up issue" and NOT the "gps icon pops up but I don't get a lock quickly" issue. (For the latter, try faster fix perhaps)
After reading this cyanogenmod issue comment I decided that it might be a hint to my problem.
While investigating this fault, I read this post and found that the RIL with cyanogenmod didn't match my (now far newer) radio.
To solve this, I flashed an old radio and things started working. I then flashed a new radio and then the matching RIL (from here) and things continued working.
I would have posted in the development section/threads but apparently seen as I haven't posted 10 newbie questions I'm not ready for it so...
tl;dr: If you have a 'new' radio, flash a matching RIL & your GPS issues may be resolved.
Your rils should always match your radios for that reason and others. This doesn't just occur on CM7, but in any ROM if you're radio and ril are mismatched.
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I have installed the newest Radio 10.15.9035.02_2 with RIL HTC-RIL 2.2.0173HMQ but gps doesn't lock. No Icon...
Even installed faux and tiamat kernel but nothing helped.
Now i will try to install an older radio maybe that's it.
(Europe unbranded Sensation z701e)
BonesRed said:
Your rils should always match your radios for that reason and others. This doesn't just occur on CM7, but in any ROM if you're radio and ril are mismatched.
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I don't think that's been made obvious in any of the big threads though. This is my first android so I'm new to things as I'm sure many others are. That said, I'm not entirely clueless and unable..
g3c said:
I have installed the newest Radio 10.15.9035.02_2 with RIL HTC-RIL 2.2.0173HMQ but gps doesn't lock. No Icon...
Even installed faux and tiamat kernel but nothing helped.
Now i will try to install an older radio maybe that's it.
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I'm currently running:
HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ - 2.3.4 ROMs
Radio versions 10.14.9035.01
I'm now on 10.14.9035.01 with HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ, but have no gps signal at all...
Oviousliy it's not working for everybody :/
Price child Are you saying yours is working then?
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PriceChild said:
I am targetting the "gps icon doesn't even pop up issue" and NOT the "gps icon pops up but I don't get a lock quickly" issue. (For the latter, try faster fix perhaps)
After reading this cyanogenmod issue comment I decided that it might be a hint to my problem.
While investigating this fault, I read this post and found that the RIL with cyanogenmod didn't match my (now far newer) radio.
To solve this, I flashed an old radio and things started working. I then flashed a new radio and then the matching RIL (from here) and things continued working.
I would have posted in the development section/threads but apparently seen as I haven't posted 10 newbie questions I'm not ready for it so...
tl;dr: If you have a 'new' radio, flash a matching RIL & your GPS issues may be resolved.
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EDIT: nvm fixed it.
Do you have a non-US device?

[Q] Do I need to update my radio?

How does one determine which radio should be used?
I haven't flashed radios back since it was mandatory with the Android Revolution ROM. I'm using CM10 now, and am going to be flashing Albinoman's CM10.1 soon here. Admittedly this is a bit greek to me, and I'd hate to break my phone flashing the wrong radio.
T-MOUS
HBOOT-1.27.1100 [Revolutionary]
Radio-11.76A.3504.00P_11.24A.3504.31_M
Firmware: (Unknown - not shown in "About Phone," believe I'm on 3.32) - Will be flashing 3.33 from this thread.
There is a thread with a bunch of radios in it, but I'm not sure if any of those are carrier dependent, or based on other things.
Thanks in advance
gotpriest said:
How does one determine which radio should be used?
I haven't flashed radios back since it was mandatory with the Android Revolution ROM. I'm using CM10 now, and am going to be flashing Albinoman's CM10.1 soon here. Admittedly this is a bit greek to me, and I'd hate to break my phone flashing the wrong radio.
T-MOUS
HBOOT-1.27.1100 [Revolutionary]
Radio-11.76A.3504.00P_11.24A.3504.31_M
Firmware: (Unknown - not shown in "About Phone," believe I'm on 3.32) - Will be flashing 3.33 from this thread.
There is a thread with a bunch of radios in it, but I'm not sure if any of those are carrier dependent, or based on other things.
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
You should try to install albino's ROM without changing anything,to begin with.
It may work well straight out of the box.
Only start changing radios and firmware if you have signal problems.
Firmware 3.33 and 3.32 Are virtually identical,and I think the radios are in fact the same.
What about the RILs? I never understood that part..
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scanferr said:
What about the RILs? I never understood that part..
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Hi,
Rils work with the radio to give you good signal for your area.
Rils are included in the ROM.
You can also go to the market and get an app called "GetRil"
This will check your radio/ril combination, and ensure you have the best match.
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Thanks, mate!
malybru said:
Hi,
Rils work with the radio to give you good signal for your area.
Rils are included in the ROM.
You can also go to the market and get an app called "GetRil"
This will check your radio/ril combination, and ensure you have the best match.
Sent telepathically from my S4
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So I used this app with Albinoman's Rom, and it came up "Unknown RIL" - won't give me any options beyond that. All I was allowed to do was send a report.
gotpriest said:
So I used this app with Albinoman's Rom, and it came up "Unknown RIL" - won't give me any options beyond that. All I was allowed to do was send a report.
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Hi,
It has been a while since I used albino's ROM.
People did report that Getril did not work too well with 4.2.2 ROMS.
I guess that has not changed.
On the up-side,the ril that was incorporated in albino's ROMS worked well for most people.
Are you having any signal problems?
malybru said:
Hi,
It has been a while since I used albino's ROM.
People did report that Getril did not work too well with 4.2.2 ROMS.
I guess that has not changed.
On the up-side,the ril that was incorporated in albino's ROMS worked well for most people.
Are you having any signal problems?
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Unfortunately yes, my signal is constantly fluctuating from 3 bars to no bars every 30 or so seconds. Can't receive calls unless I have three or more bars. Missing 90% of calls, unable to make outgoing calls at all.
Made the build.prop change for T-MOUS recommended in Albinoman's build - no improvement.
gotpriest said:
Unfortunately yes, my signal is constantly fluctuating from 3 bars to no bars every 30 or so seconds. Can't receive calls unless I have three or more bars. Missing 90% of calls, unable to make outgoing calls at all.
Made the build.prop change for T-MOUS recommended in Albinoman's build - no improvement.
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Hi,
The first question you asked was :
" How does one determine which radio should be used?"
The best radio is the one that works for you.
Was your signal good with your previous ROM?
The radio you have is 11.24
There is a later version HERE which is 11.29
If you had a good signal before,then it could just be the ril that you had in the previous ROM.
It may be possible to get that ril and use it on albino's ROM.
You could also ask about rils in the radio/ril thread.
Of course,you must be s-off to change any firmware or radio.
Flashed the latest radio, now I can't make or receive any phone calls whatsoever. Phone displays 2 bars, but as soon as I try to make a call, goes to zero.
Apparently if my Wi-Fi is on, it kills my Mobile Signal. Keeping Wi-Fi off is allowing me to make calls, for the moment.
gotpriest said:
Apparently if my Wi-Fi is on, it kills my Mobile Signal. Keeping Wi-Fi off is allowing me to make calls, for the moment.
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The safest way is to get an app called GetRil from play store and check if your radio and ril are matched properly.
Try this first and then change your radio if it still isn't working.
You can get radios from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867
You need to try radio/ril combinations till you get it right.
A lot of people have radio problems with albomanion Rom
You can also see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348361. It is not exactly for your Rom, but it might help
Happy to help.

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