I'm pretty bugged out that I have to flash multiple things just to get from one ROM to another. Especially when flashing back to stock.
This is a request, there is no reward, I am not forcing anyone to do it, you can pick up the request or not. This is for the entire communities benefit.
Now we have cleared things so no one complains "Oh how rude you are asking our developers to do something, you got some nerve."
Since most of our ROM's are now ICS and some of them require CM9 before flashing, I thought why not a One-Click ICS? It would be beneficial for allot of people.
I would do it myself however I have no Android development experience.
So if anyone has allot of time and has experience with making One-Clicks, you have my respect and probably the entire SGS4G community.
th3controller said:
I'm pretty bugged out that I have to flash multiple things just to get from one ROM to another. Especially when flashing back to stock
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First, there is no stock ICS for this phone so you'll still need to go back to GB to be "stock". Second, I flash from ICS to ICS to ICS without ever going back to stock or CM9. With most of the new builds there is no need to. The only time I ever have to use Heimdall anymore is when one of Eriks "test builds" completely hoses me.(JK that actually almost never happens).
Im sure as soon as I post this 30 people will post saying they just created a one click to ics. so...
It cant be done. The PIT file needs to be edited to reflect the mtd file system.
Really what needs to be done is these ports requiring you to flash to cm9 first should be using the same install scripts as cm9 so you can flash directly to it from stock. At this point if a rom says flash so and so first I dont try it. Because if they are using the scripts from cm9 there shouldnt be a reason to flash cm9 first. I might sound rude or whatever but its simply a matter of convenience.
Thanks for the awesome, understandable replies guys!
Lol Hechoen I see you taste some of Erik's custom recipe's before anyone does XD
And yes eollie it is for convenience
th3controller said:
Thanks for the awesome, understandable replies guys!
Lol Hechoen I see you taste some of Erik's custom recipe's before anyone does XD
And yes eollie it is for convenience
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Lately I get to see them even before he does. lol He's got a pretty sweet one coming up that I think people are gonna dig. No ETA's but something about built from source AOSP?
Uh oh... is search broken?
th3controller said:
I'm pretty bugged out that I have to flash multiple things just to get from one ROM to another. Especially when flashing back to stock.
This is a request, there is no reward, I am not forcing anyone to do it, you can pick up the request or not. This is for the entire communities benefit.
Now we have cleared things so no one complains "Oh how rude you are asking our developers to do something, you got some nerve."
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How rude, wanting convenience. HAHA. Me too! I want that sauce!
th3controller said:
Since most of our ROM's are now ICS and some of them require CM9 before flashing, I thought why not a One-Click ICS? It would be beneficial for allot of people.
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Why do you need to flash cm9 before flashing other ics roms? Can't you just fix that stuff in the updater.sh and updater-script? Or is that not convenient? <hehe, sarcasm again...>
th3controller said:
I would do it myself however I have no Android development experience.
So if anyone has allot of time and has experience with making One-Clicks, you have my respect and probably the entire SGS4G community.
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Yea, so here is the thing. The oneclick uses the bootloader to do it's magic. The bootloader only speaks in BML and RFS. It knows nothing of MTD, yaffs2, or ext4. It also gets it's partition information from the Partition Information Table (pit), which is also laid out for BML/RFS.
So basically, Your question is: Make us some new bootloaders!
This is not something I can do overnight, but have been investigating since my phone got unbrickable mod.
There is a lot of information to collect, and I am collecting this information in little chunks everytime we get another feature of cm9/aries working properly.
Unfortunately, my work on a new bootloader for this phone is stalled until I can get a new job (yes, unemployment only pays for me to pay some minor bills and eat.) so that I can afford to buy the equipment I need to do such a thing.
Once we have a new bootloader, we can just fastboot each partition just like the Google phones and HTC devices. Wouldn't that be great. Yea, thats what I was thinking too. Glad we are on the same page now
It's too bad that you didn't search the forums, or you would have found me saying this months ago.
But people keep opening new threads about stuff, and you know we are gullible and will answer, because it is more convenient to ask then it is to search.
Lol bhundven, you even went on the trouble of adding a underline XD
Anyways, yes I do understand the matter and I do understand it is NOT an overnight thing. I'm just hearing (seeing) these things right now, like I said not really experienced. I also try to read as much in the forums as I can.
I also hope I'm not in your bad side
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Lol bhundven, you even went on the trouble of adding a underline XD
Anyways, yes I do understand the matter and I do understand it is NOT an overnight thing. I'm just hearing (seeing) these things right now, like I said not really experienced. I also try to read as much in the forums as I can.
I also hope I'm not in your bad side
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My post was mostly sarcasm... besides the point about needing new bootloaders.
My bad side is notifying moderators. At the time of this writing, this thread is still open with no one sending abuse reports...
I don't ignore people, because then I see people laughing or getting angry around one of the people I ignore in a thread, and I don't get to understand why it is funny or anger causing.
I'm dearly sorry Bhudven-Sama, I shall not fail you again!
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I'm dearly sorry Bhudven-Sama, I shall not fail you again!
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lol
th3controller said:
I'm pretty bugged out that I have to flash multiple things just to get from one ROM to another.
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Sounds like the people that assemble FrankenROMs need to learn how to script the updater. Once you're on MTD, there shouldn't be any reason to do anything but let the supplied installer run.
Flashing back to stock? There is a one-click for that. Takes you from MTD to GB stock. I'm pretty sure that someone even made one with an AntonX kernel, root, and recovery all in one shot.
I hadn't mentioned last night, but I've actually been messing with how to make a one click for ICS roms, particularly AOKP. When the rom gets built from source, we also get a system image file that we SHOULD be able to flash via heimdall. The thing is that there seems to be some kind of limitation of the filesize of this image, and the image flash fails at the exact same spot every time.
I've tried to look up information on how to make heimdall be able to flash the whole file but found nothing promising. Even some of the people from the mozilla boot to gecko team had tried to modify the heimdall source code to allow the file to be flashed but they had no luck either.
Admittedly, I haven't tested to see if an ICS boot.img/system image will flash via Odin.
FBis251 said:
I hadn't mentioned last night, but I've actually been messing with how to make a one click for ICS roms, particularly AOKP. When the rom gets built from source, we also get a system image file that we SHOULD be able to flash via heimdall. The thing is that there seems to be some kind of limitation of the filesize of this image, and the image flash fails at the exact same spot every time.
I've tried to look up information on how to make heimdall be able to flash the whole file but found nothing promising. Even some of the people from the mozilla boot to gecko team had tried to modify the heimdall source code to allow the file to be flashed but they had no luck either.
Admittedly, I haven't tested to see if an ICS boot.img/system image will flash via Odin.
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Ok, so yea, we can probably make a heimdall flash that will flash bootloaders and kernel for an MTD rom, but you'd have to do some manual things still (which is why I prefer flashing back to stock):
flash back to stock
backup your efs
oneclick cm9/ics rom.
restore your efs manually.
flash cm9/ics rom after the oneclick is done.
so, compaired to:
flash back to stock
reboot to recovery
flash cm9/ics rom
you are just making things more difficult.
The thing is, you shouldn't need to flash back to stock if you are going from cm9 to any other ics/mtd rom.
And you shouldn't need to flash to cm9 if you want to flash any other ics rom.
The developers of those roms are just being lazy (imo) and need to modify their updater.sh and updater-script to work like the cm9 scripts do. Fixed.
When we get new bootloaders, this all changes.
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********This is only a ROM. You must have first flashed the EA11 LEAK first.********
********You must have the modified RED CWM recovery to flash this. If you don't already have that installed, go here to get it.*********
*********DO NOT FLASH THIS IF YOU ARE STILL ON 2.1************
As always, I am not responsible for what you do to your phone. Make a backup before you flash anything.
Download the ROM and the addons. (unzip the main addons zip) Decide what addons you want. Put everything on your sdcard and boot into recovery. Flash the ROM first. Flash any addon packs that you have put on your sdcard. Reboot.
I've tried to group the addons so there aren't too many of them. If you want, you can always reconfigure things using 7zip without having to unzip anything. If you don't know how to do this already, it's probably best to just flash each pack seperately.
EA11 Mesmerize Pick-n-Pack ROM
EA11 Mesmerize PnP Addons
Thank you sir very much
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Now for some voodoo?
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why do we need to flash the original Froyo leak first?
i dont understand this Mez thing about using Odin.
once you have a Rom flashed to your phone and Clockwork working there is never ever ever a need to use this odin program. i have never once used it and have flashed a few roms, one of them your very own pick-n-pak , just not the froyo one.
so can someone explain to me this crazy need to backdoor flash the phone?
the Froyo leak is just a rom, just like this and every other rom. its just a factory flash rom, not a rom you guys built....
so why not just build a rom from it because the odin stuff seems just to be massive unnecessary overkill.
v_lestat said:
why do we need to flash the original Froyo leak first?
i dont understand this Mez thing about using Odin.
once you have a Rom flashed to your phone and Clockwork working there is never ever ever a need to use this odin program. i have never once used it and have flashed a few roms, one of them your very own...[etc, etc]
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It doesn't seem like a bad idea to have a stock backup solution available.
v_lestat said:
why do we need to flash the original Froyo leak first?
i dont understand this Mez thing about using Odin.
once you have a Rom flashed to your phone and Clockwork working there is never ever ever a need to use this odin program. i have never once used it and have flashed a few roms, one of them your very own pick-n-pak , just not the froyo one.
so can someone explain to me this crazy need to backdoor flash the phone?
the Froyo leak is just a rom, just like this and every other rom. its just a factory flash rom, not a rom you guys built....
so why not just build a rom from it because the odin stuff seems just to be massive unnecessary overkill.
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This ROM doesn't have a kernel or a modem with it. If you don't have those files, your phone won't work.
The Froyo leak is NOT a ROM it is a recovery system just as the recovery system for 2.1. It has everything in it.
Odin is not overkill. It's just a different way of flashing things. As soon as we have everything in place for a fully flashable ROM including kernel and modem, that will be an option too. My original PnP ROM also did not include a kernel or modem, but you were already on 2.1 so you didn't need to get there. Had you have been on 1.6, you would have had to update.
Also, there is only two of us working on all of this. We can only do so much. We are trying to do what we can, with what we have. If you can help us out, hit us up on irc. We could use the help.
help?
i just flashed and got a boot loop anything?
mesmerbelly said:
i just flashed and got a boot loop anything?
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Hit the irc channel. I didn't have any problems, and neither did any of the others that flashed. We'll get you fixed up.
duhh
i just needed to wipe everything duhh belly think then ask
could you plz tell me where the bootanimation.zip goes in this...i miss my dancing droid...i got the music to work but no animation
v_lestat said:
why do we need to flash the original Froyo leak first?
i dont understand this Mez thing about using Odin.
once you have a Rom flashed to your phone and Clockwork working there is never ever ever a need to use this odin program. i have never once used it and have flashed a few roms, one of them your very own pick-n-pak , just not the froyo one.
so can someone explain to me this crazy need to backdoor flash the phone?
the Froyo leak is just a rom, just like this and every other rom. its just a factory flash rom, not a rom you guys built....
so why not just build a rom from it because the odin stuff seems just to be massive unnecessary overkill.
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Over 700 posts here and a thanks meter of 1.. <-- maybe you should just cool off a bit..
Two things:
Number one: Read my reply to your la]st rant. It explains a lot.
Number two: As far as I know, phidelt82 and I are the only ones who own a Samsung Mesmerize and are offering our time up to work on this stuff. Thank God our device is very similar to the other Galaxy S devices so we can dip into the community and share resources where appropriate. I promise you without the resources of the great XDA community, you would have none of this from us.
To answer your burning question I already answered once:
The reason we don't have this in an update.zip form yet is because I am a college student who spends most of his days studying. Every so often I get some *leisure* time to spend working on things I enjoy -- like helping out this community here. I am not as skilled as the prominent Fascinate devs but I am learning. So is phidelt. The refined packages will come.
The fact that you are so worked up about ODIN tells me there are reasons far beyond your understanding as to why we are using it. There is nothing wrong with odin. IT DOES THE SAME THING THAT YOUR RECOVERY PARTITION DOES/CAN DO.. just attached to the computer. I actually think it's more reliable (well at least Heimdall is) and easier to use.
If we were to release a froyo-update.zip and everyone tried it out, without ODIN, they would be potentially stuck in 2.2 land. That would be a big hassle donchathink -- especially because EA11 is not a final release, there ARE some bugs? The current solution for Fascinate users is to flash a froyo.zip from their phone, THEN USE ODIN to flash a <2e> recovery partition so that CWM will work properly. Why not do it all in Odin for the Mesmerize for the time being? Once there is a reliable solution that doesn't need ODIN/Heimdall, I promise you, it will be implemented.
Cool off. I've wasted enough time responding to your ignorance. I am being abrasive now because I already answered you once, and you find the need to ignore the contents of my reply and rant about the same old..
I had some time to put up a new package tonight, but, thanks(?) to you, that's not the case anymore.. =/
you tell him dcow....i like odin...its simple and reliable...cant complain about that
on topic : love this rom...used it on 2.1 and so exited its on froyo now...great work!!!
Yikes, what ever happened to the rule of "If you don't like it, do something about it." ?
For the record, dcow and phidelt, you guys are awesome and I very much greatly appreciate putting your extra time into this!
Amen!
BIG thanks to dcow and phidelt. Without your efforts, I'd still be on stock 2.1. Just wanted you both to know your time and effort is appreciated. Don't know how many of these phones USCC has sold, but it's got to be a small community in comparison to, for example, the Fascinate.
Glad the other devs have been kind enough to help you out where they can...big thanks to them as well.
BakedTator said:
could you plz tell me where the bootanimation.zip goes in this...i miss my dancing droid...i got the music to work but no animation
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as of right now till we get a custom kernel there is not much you can do. this one uses qmg files in the /system/media folder for the startup animation. you can delete or rename them so its black but i have yet to find any good working qmg. i have actually found one file and it is 4meg and the animation doesn't finish by the time the desktop apears. the stanard one on our phone is only like 2 to 2.5meg
so your telling me i (or someone with the skills) is going to have to learn how to convert the zips into qmg files? or is there a program we could use...imma google it but if you or anyone knows anything about this plz tell me...im willing to learn and try this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792953
We're going to have to do some research =/, or possibly need a MOD to the rom first.
You guys rock! Back to being bloat-free...and on 2.2
phidelt82 said:
This ROM doesn't have a kernel or a modem with it. If you don't have those files, your phone won't work.
The Froyo leak is NOT a ROM it is a recovery system just as the recovery system for 2.1. It has everything in it.
Odin is not overkill. It's just a different way of flashing things. As soon as we have everything in place for a fully flashable ROM including kernel and modem, that will be an option too. My original PnP ROM also did not include a kernel or modem, but you were already on 2.1 so you didn't need to get there. Had you have been on 1.6, you would have had to update.
Also, there is only two of us working on all of this. We can only do so much. We are trying to do what we can, with what we have. If you can help us out, hit us up on irc. We could use the help.
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ahhh i see, it is a rom but its a radio-less rom. - so wait.... if its a radioless rom then why are we flashing it with odin... i dont understand.
and yes odin seems nice, but to have to use this instead of just flashing via clockwork seems rather unconventional
On the EVO we had the official and leaked HTC flasher but to use it meant you lost root. the teams just made a flashable rooted rom
i know that isnt the case with the Mez. but it seemed silly to me that since you had the Samsung recovery, and you had your pick-n-pak... then why not just make a flashable rom.
am i mistaken here ? why not jsut make a rom since you have the stock recovery and the necessary files, just make a rom we can flash via recovery.
so i guess i am lost, if its radioless why are we using it and how is anything working if its not a rom, and missing said files.
p.s.
i sure with amon ra would become available for the Mez lol.
bdemartino said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792953
We're going to have to do some research =/, or possibly need a MOD to the rom first.
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i will do my best to help in this research (though im still rather new to all this) and help out in any way i can...maybe with the power of 2 (or more) Brains we can get this working too!
I have been flashing my fascinate for a while now, looking to mod a captivate now. Im looking for something solid. Just looking thru your roms. I'm seeing that some people are having sleep of death on some roms. Also, I know nothing of your rom designations. Us on fascinate are on ec01 atm.. untill I'm more up to speed, what is a good, recent, official froyo, based rom? I prefer niceties, bln, voodoo stuffs, lockscreens, power options, acc batt, deodexed..
I will be doing more studys, but these 2 phones seem more diff than I thought they would be.. Voodoo and froyo are my bottom line..
Ps.. You guys are lucky to have so many custom roms.. I'm lost in your dev section.. however its a curse to new comers lol..
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Our official 2.2 is KB1, and as far as I know the only one that supports the noise cancellation hardware. Cog 4.3.1 is a kb1-based rom (and Torch may also be based on kb1, or I may have just been drunk when I read the description many moons ago).
Everything else seems to be based off of the international i9000 roms with reoriented kernels. Try Serendipity, it's pretty decent if you don't mind the i9000 lineage.
We also have MIUI and CM7. MIUI is based off of CM7, and CM7 is based off of the Nexus S source.
You can also check out FireFly, It's based of Rogers 2.2 and comes with the Speedmod Kernel which doesn't have the sleep death issues. It's solid and reliable annnd it's updated every thursdays..what more can you ask for
I believe Fusion is KB1 based as well. KB1 is the only official Captivate Froyo. Personally, I recommend an i9000 ROM, as they're all 2.2.1 based. I'm running Inception right now, and having great success with it. It's only two days old, though, so probably not something you're ready to flash. Very stable and popular i9000 ROMS that I recommend are Serendipity and Continuum. My personal favorite is Precision, but if you go that route, download version 3.5, not 4.0, as 4.0 is still in alpha stage and has a few bugs. I hope my suggestions have helped in any way and welcome to the Captivate community!
Thanks for the responses,
Are you using cwm 3? Were still on cwm 2.5 on the fassy.. I know there was issues with edify scripting.. I'm looking into your beginners guide when I get on my pc later to see the differences in flashing. I feel a good amount of studying will be needed.. Also, do you have all in 1 odin to stock? And odin to stock froyo? Incase I create a bootloop.
1 more question. being that this is a gsm phone.. Do you still odin radio? Or are they included in the roms? I noticed that many rom posts here don't tell what radio to use, or what is compatible.
Thanks I advance, and sorry for picking brains
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OBatRFan said:
I believe Fusion is KB1 based as well. KB1 is the only official Captivate Froyo. Personally, I recommend an i9000 ROM, as they're all 2.2.1 based. I'm running Inception right now, and having great success with it. It's only two days old, though, so probably not something you're ready to flash. Very stable and popular i9000 ROMS that I recommend are Serendipity and Continuum. My personal favorite is Precision, but if you go that route, download version 3.5, not 4.0, as 4.0 is still in alpha stage and has a few bugs. I hope my suggestions have helped in any way and welcome to the Captivate community!
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Thanks for the feedback.
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neh4pres said:
Thanks for the responses,
Are you using cwm 3? Were still on cwm 2.5 on the fassy.. I know there was issues with edify scripting.. I'm looking into your beginners guide when I get on my pc later to see the differences in flashing. I feel a good amount of studying will be needed.. Also, do you have all in 1 odin to stock? And odin to stock froyo? Incase I create a bootloop.
1 more question. being that this is a gsm phone.. Do you still odin radio? Or are they included in the roms? I noticed that many rom posts here don't tell what radio to use, or what is compatible.
Thanks I advance, and sorry for picking brains
sent from my frozen yogurt filled fascinate!
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I believe we're on CWM 3. something or other. Never had an issue with it.
We have an ODIN one click back to stock which is recommended to do before flashing and new ROM. As for the radio, I honestly have no clue about that.
neh4pres said:
Thanks for the responses,
Are you using cwm 3? Were still on cwm 2.5 on the fassy.. I know there was issues with edify scripting.. I'm looking into your beginners guide when I get on my pc later to see the differences in flashing. I feel a good amount of studying will be needed.. Also, do you have all in 1 odin to stock? And odin to stock froyo? Incase I create a bootloop.
1 more question. being that this is a gsm phone.. Do you still odin radio? Or are they included in the roms? I noticed that many rom posts here don't tell what radio to use, or what is compatible.
Thanks I advance, and sorry for picking brains
sent from my frozen yogurt filled fascinate!
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yes modem is included in ROM package itself
modest_mandroid said:
Our official 2.2 is KB1, and as far as I know the only one that supports the noise cancellation hardware. Cog 4.3.1 is a kb1-based rom (and Torch may also be based on kb1, or I may have just been drunk when I read the description many moons ago).
Everything else seems to be based off of the international i9000 roms with reoriented kernels. Try Serendipity, it's pretty decent if you don't mind the i9000 lineage.
We also have MIUI and CM7. MIUI is based off of CM7, and CM7 is based off of the Nexus S source.
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Torch is kb1 based, but not updated in awhile.
We call them modems, not radios.
You should look at the Onix kernel. It's great.
Continuum v4 unthemed looks alot like stock.
Good luck, and welcome to the captivate forums.
I seem to be hanging up on rooting using super 1 click.. Says waiting for device.. Thinking about odin to stock then trying again.. Unless someone has a better option.
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Thank you all..
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Are you trying to root so you can go to a custom ROM? If so, I wouldn't worry about rooting. I attached an update.zip that will get you CWM. Put the update.zip and the zip of whatever ROM you want to flash on your internal sdcard. Turn the phone off, hold both volume keys and the power keys. The AT&T logo should come up, keep holding the buttons. The logo should pop up again, now let go. it should go to recovery. Now select reinstall packages. The phone should reboot and go to recovery again. Select reinstall packages again and it should go to CWM. I'm assuming you should know how to flash a zip from here if you've had Fascinate experience. The flashing of the ROM will root your phone.
Hope this helps! If you have any questions, just ask.
Andromeda3 is based off the Georgio Armani Cappy. It's a 2.2 rom that has all the goodies you listed. The devs did a fantastic job on it. It's not updated very often because it doesn't need to be. It's fast, looks good, and has everything you want.
thanks... if i can get out of this fix im in ill do that... however i followed this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818439&highlight=odin+stock
and seem to be stuck at factory rfs.. dont dare unplug yet... i know on my fassy it would not be a big deal.. interrupt and try again.., but i dont know if i could lose download mode if i interrupt on this phone..
neh4pres said:
thanks... if i can get out of this fix im in ill do that... however i followed this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818439&highlight=odin+stock
and seem to be stuck at factory rfs.. dont dare unplug yet... i know on my fassy it would not be a big deal.. interrupt and try again.., but i dont know if i could lose download mode if i interrupt on this phone..
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This has happened to me multiple times. Unplug, pull battery, restart ODIN, put battery in, and repeat the flashing process.
OBatRFan said:
This has happened to me multiple times. Unplug, pull battery, restart ODIN, put battery in, and repeat the flashing process.
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got stuck on sbl bin that time... am i doing something wrong?.. im just opening odin 3, then place pit, place tar.. click start... should i also click partition? or maybe i have a corrupt copy... while i wait for a response ill re download..
thanks for being such a help
Most ROMs are not based on Captivate Froyo, because it sucks.
And Gingerbread ROMs are right around the corner. Just waiting on Samsung releasing the i9000 kernel source.
Sent from my Captivate
Try this version of ODIN: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989&highlight=ODIN
One-click, so need need for PDA and such. That's what I use, but it all depends on whether or not you have three button combo working. If that version doesn't work, just keep trying on both versions, switch USB ports each time.
OBatRFan said:
I believe we're on CWM 3. something or other. Never had an issue with it.
We have an ODIN one click back to stock which is recommended to do before flashing and new ROM. As for the radio, I honestly have no clue about that.
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we still use cwm 2.5.x.x because as was said 3.x.x.x have issues.
flashing to stock isnt needed anymore as all roms do a wipe, odin should only be used as a repair tool not a normal part of the process.
op just curious what was your phone running before you started odin? whoever posted the update.zip is right all this other stuff is just spinning your wheels. if it was on 2.1 then put that zip on the root of your sd reinstall packages twice and you will be in cwm, from there you can flash any rom. if you were on 2.2 then do a search for 3e recovery sighning and once you get that cracked follow the preceeding instructions
okay.. im all fixed now.. just to let everyone know, it was a computer issue (windows fail). and my usb was not talking correctly. a simple restart solved the issue.. i was worried i was in over my head, and i thank you all for helping. and i apologize for turning this page into a rescue center lol.
i will try that update zip now.. and im on my way to great roms im sure.. you are all a terrific bunch, and im glad to be a part of this forum
So I have been reading over in the development forums and it seems like a lot of users are having issues restoring backups with jt's recovery.
Most of them have ended up with bricked phones and no way to fix it cuz we are still lacking a full odin package for the charge.
Has anyone had success doing a restore in CWM?
Anyone? Please
This is something I'm going to get with imnuts on to fix. Just waiting for my charge to come in.
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This is something I'm going to get with imnuts on to fix. Just waiting for my charge to come in.
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Ok I figured someone would be working on it I just didnt know if everyone was affected by it or just a few people because i havent seen much talk about it. Also I figured maybe we should put a warning up so more people dont attempt to restore just to end up with a bricked phone.
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Ok I figured someone would be working on it I just didnt know if everyone was affected by it or just a few people because i havent seen much talk about it. Also I figured maybe we should put a warning up so more people dont attempt to restore just to end up with a bricked phone.
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I made a post similar to this in the cwm thread. Thanks for posting it up here too. I have a feeling it's more then just user error, which is the first thing everyone wants to blame something on, and typically the case. Just not feeling like this is the same situation. Good lookin out for everybody!
It sucks for them but we really do need the odin package just in case for future bricks lol
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Based on the one post I saw, it seems like it has to do with restoring /data with the error message that popped up. I'd guess that this is an issue with CWM, but it is hard to say for certain. For now though, I'd just avoid restoring anything, and it's this reason I'd rather use Titanium backup to back up stuff than CWM.
I have read in the past that part of the agreement the mfg's have is they need to release source code, does that actually get us a Stock Odin image or not?
I am used to getting the sbf for Moto or the RUU for HTC, but not familiar with Samsung's willingness and position on this.
Mine bricked from attempting a restore with CWM
But the file that imnuts made fixed it.
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I have read in the past that part of the agreement the mfg's have is they need to release source code, does that actually get us a Stock Odin image or not?
I am used to getting the sbf for Moto or the RUU for HTC, but not familiar with Samsung's willingness and position on this.
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Not sure where the stock ODIN images have come from, but tech support @ verizon should have access to them, should only be a matter of time b4 one gets leaked
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I have read in the past that part of the agreement the mfg's have is they need to release source code, does that actually get us a Stock Odin image or not?
I am used to getting the sbf for Moto or the RUU for HTC, but not familiar with Samsung's willingness and position on this.
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Odin images are not source code, they are binary files. The Odin images come from Samsung, but there are people that have access to them at VZW. Getting a full stock Odin would have to come from one of the two places.
Hey everyone.
Im generally pretty savvy with androids. I rooted and S-offed my HTC Desire, I had a nexus S for a bit until it got ran over... Now im stuck with this Galaxy S 4G, which has been nothing but headaches because for some reason... this thing is impossible to root to me. Ive tried Hemidall, Super1clicks, Odin etc..
Can someone please just point me in the direction of rooting this POS? Im hoping that once its rooted and running stock, I wont hate this thing as much... because so far, Its a horrible purchase.
I just need someone to post a link to where I need to be. Ive searched.. and im absolutely lost. Even the Rootz wiki was useless to me.
Thanks.
Model Number - SGH-T959W
Android Version 2.3.6
You might not have any luck this is the T-959V and your phone might not be supported
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28566711&postcount=15
Read that then understand what bhundven means by DONT FLASH BOOTLOADERS!!
You can use the heimdall one clicks he created to get root access and then flash any rom that DOESNT HAVE BOOTLOADERS INCLUDED. That means do not use gremlin remover period. Once you get rooted make a backup and keep it stored in as many places as possible. If you flash the ics variants you will have to use the stock kj6 HOC and then need to flash the HOC for antonx kernel to get root back. At that point you can flash your nandroid or whatever rom you want. AGAIN AS LONG AS IT DOESNT HAVE BOOTLOADERS included.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28566711&postcount=15
Read that then understand what bhundven means by DONT FLASH BOOTLOADERS!!
You can use the heimdall one clicks he created to get root access and then flash any rom that DOESNT HAVE BOOTLOADERS INCLUDED. That means do not use gremlin remover period. Once you get rooted make a backup and keep it stored in as many places as possible. If you flash the ics variants you will have to use the stock kj6 HOC and then need to flash the HOC for antonx kernel to get root back. At that point you can flash your nandroid or whatever rom you want. AGAIN AS LONG AS IT DOESNT HAVE BOOTLOADERS included.
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I have no idea what youre talking about. Sorry
I used the Hemidall, and only got an unrooted Tmobile rom.. Im not sure where exactly i get root from this
Meh, forget it... im selling this phone. There is no convincing me to ever buy anything from Sammy again unless its a Nexus line.
HTC or Nexus forever.
Thanks guys
Reading is hard
"Can I get step by step directions please?"
Sure, here you are!
"What?! Your not going to remotely root my phone for me? F this place"
Good luck sir, you have the patience of a saint and the drive of a tiger!
OK let's be honest you gave up kinda quick.......
The forum that eollie linked you to was a forum talking about the phone that you bought, which is an apparent offshoot of the t-959v and according to what Masonite found out, "our" roms work on the t-959w but you cannot flash the bootloaders.
Here is the one click link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498 just boot into download mode and use this but absolutely don't flash bootloaders and it should be OK, no promises.
Eollie was right for linking you there, all the info you needed about your model phone was on that forum, that one click is in the dev sticky which everybody should read.
There has been a flood of people not researching a little bit first before posting and that's why people flamed you but you should not give up, its a good phone and our devs are dedicated and have put in a lot of time on this model, you should be happy your phone can even support all the great roms that are available.
I'm not being mean but seriously, come on, all the info is there, no need to get mad.
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Edit: or Google search how to use heimdall if your confused, I learn off a damn YouTube video..........
Our devs didn't create heimdall and don't support it but it is a great program and the dev has to build the individual one click for the phone, we should be happy to have it that easily available.
Reading the whole thread you got linked to is really hard. Phone-bricking hard
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Reading the whole thread you got linked to is really hard. Phone-bricking hard
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Hahaha I know but but I believe in you lmao
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You'll need to flash one of the back to stock files that you got linked to in that thread which will put you on stock GB with no root. DO NOT FLASH THE BOOTLOADERS. You'll very likely brick if you do.
After this download the AntonX kernel from bhundven's one click thread and flash that. That will give you a custom kernel with CWM built in and root.
Needless to say, this is all for the SGH-T959V which theoretically should work on the SGH-T959W. As you'll read any disclaimer on this forum, you're resposible for anything you flash and the damage that may occur to your device.
Thanks for that fb I forgot a few steps if he wants to be on mtd roms, I assumed he could read from that point............ but your right for knowing better
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Thank you very much, and I'm sorry for getting angry. I've had this phone for almost 4 months now, and haven't been able to do anything with it. Quite frustrating.
So, I currently have the Tmobile ROM on my phone, so I'm halfway there it appears!
I'm going to download the other ROM as soon as I get home.
Thanks so much! Next up.. Learning to flash with Odin, and not ROM manager.
It seemed like everything I tried wasn't working with 2.3.6. Superoneclick etc.
I was waiting for a new exploit, but it never came. I tried YouTube tutorials, text directions.. Everything would fail, or give me "read only" errors. I feared bricking, so I stopped.. But I searched the forum and came across the thread he linked me to, but it said no bootloaders, and all the ones I saw had bootloaders. Wasn't until tonight that I noticed it's a 2 part flash process, with the second being the bootloaders.
I think I started this thread at 3am.
Lesson learned.
In heimdall, you can click a little box that says "flash bootloaders" to toggle flashing them on and off! .... or maybe it was odin? I can't remember... been a while since I used them!
After being away for the weekend, I came home, and BAM... fully rooted. Amazing! and FINALLY!!!
Thanks everyone for your help...
I just have another issue.
I wanna flash this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305145
It says its CWM.. but there is a huge disclaimer that we shouldn't use ROM Manager on the development page, which is a bit confusing. Since this ROM isnt Odin flashable... what do i do?
Thanks again.
So I was confused about this when I first started. I'm not at my computer but I can help. In order to flash Roms via cmw you have to turn off your phone hold both volume rockers on the phone then hold the power button and hold till you get into cwm recovery. That will get you into cmw recovery mode. Then wipe data factory rest, from there go back to the main menu and select the install zip from sd card and find the zip file you want to flash and select it and install. Should be good to go.
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Nevermind... im a complete goon. I got it, lol.
Thanks
I have a samsung galaxy s 4g from t-mobile I was trying to upgrade from ginger bread to ice cream sandwich and now the phone keeps restarting. When it turns on it shows the samsung galaxy s 4g startup then it shows the ice cream sandwich i tried to download and it shows a progress bar when it gets to the very end it restarts and does the same process over and over again. I tried to plug into computer and the computer says my device is not recognized. I need help!! What do I do? If video is needed I will provide one
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There is no OTA update to ICS for this device. If you messed it up, you should use the one click back to stock, which will revert everything back to the way it was when you first got it.
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I know but I saw a video on youtube about it so i tried it and it just keeps restarting. Would you mind explaining how to do that because it I can't connect my phone to the computer it turns off every 15 secs and I can't go into recovery mode either.
The good news is that it is nearly impossible to "hard brick" an SGS4G. That you are seeing it repeatedly trying to start up tells me that it's more that you just have improper firmware on your device.
Take a look a the heimdall "one-click" collection http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
@lumin30 has a great walk-through as well -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21953878&postcount=2
The most difficult thing about using them is getting the right drivers installed on your computer for your phone (and ROM).
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The good news is that it is nearly impossible to "hard brick" an SGS4G. That you are seeing it repeatedly trying to start up tells me that it's more that you just have improper firmware on your device.
Take a look a the heimdall "one-click" collection http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
@lumin30 has a great walk-through as well -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21953878&postcount=2
The most difficult thing about using them is getting the right drivers installed on your computer for your phone (and ROM).
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I can't do this because when i plug my phone in to the computer it says device not recognized and the phone restarts about every 15 seconds. If you need to see a video I can provide one. I need to fix it because i'm stuck with this phone for a few more months.
Google samsung usb download jig. You can buy one or make your own for just a few bucks. There is a thread or two on xda on making one. Couple of threads on how to get into download mode too.
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I can't do this because when i plug my phone in to the computer it says device not recognized and the phone restarts about every 15 seconds. If you need to see a video I can provide one. I need to fix it because i'm stuck with this phone for a few more months.
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"Device not recognized" is Windows' polite way of saying that it can't make sense of drivers. I have a few polite things to say about Window's handling of drivers, but let's just say that it is tweaky, at best, and you apparently can only have one set of "similar" drivers installed at a time. You will have to work with the drivers once you get Download Mode under control.
That is is still rebooting seems to suggest that you don't have the power off / hold volup/vol dn / plug in USB sequence quite right.
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"Device not recognized" is Windows' polite way of saying that it can't make sense of drivers. I have a few polite things to say about Window's handling of drivers, but let's just say that it is tweaky, at best, and you apparently can only have one set of "similar" drivers installed at a time. You will have to work with the drivers once you get Download Mode under control.
That is is still rebooting seems to suggest that you don't have the power off / hold volup/vol dn / plug in USB sequence quite right.
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Thank you I just fixed it. I thought I was screwed thanks so much!! Do you know anything good to put on the device that is for the sgs4g because the last time I put the wrong ones and it ended up how it did. I tried valhalla final do you know any better ones.
I'm glad you got it going again! With luck, you won't have to try that again, but it is a great device to play around with as it is rather hard to get it to "hard brick" to the point where you can't get it into download mode and start again. Just keep lots of backups
There are lots of great ROMs out there for this device, in a few different flavors. You generally need to be careful how you upgrade between the flavors, especially as the big upgrade steps are often taken for granted by current ROMs
Froyo (I'll go out on a limb and say you don't want this)
Gingerbread, BML
Gingerbread, MTD
Ice Cream Sandwich (MTD only, I believe)
JellyBean (MTD only)
BML is the "stock" low-level disk routines used by Samsung ROMs, as well as some custom Gingerbread ROMs. MTD is an open-source alternative to BML that is popular with later Gingerbread ROMs, as well as probably all ICS and JB ROMs. If you are going to use an MTD ROM, you should find a solid MTD Gingerbread ROM to do the switch-over from BML to MTD to make sure it goes smoothly.
I can't really say which is "best" between all the ROMs. There are many good ones out there. A lot of people will have which ROM they use or like in their signature.
With any ROM, read the main thread to see what things might not work for you if you try the ROM.
Some of the general things that are pretty much universal are:
ICS
WiFi Calling doesn't work
Indicated WiFi signal level appears lower
JB
Built-in GPS doesn't work
WiFi Calling doesn't work
Indicated WiFi signal level appears lower
jeffsf said:
I'm glad you got it going again! With luck, you won't have to try that again, but it is a great device to play around with as it is rather hard to get it to "hard brick" to the point where you can't get it into download mode and start again. Just keep lots of backups
There are lots of great ROMs out there for this device, in a few different flavors. You generally need to be careful how you upgrade between the flavors, especially as the big upgrade steps are often taken for granted by current ROMs
Froyo (I'll go out on a limb and say you don't want this)
Gingerbread, BML
Gingerbread, MTD
Ice Cream Sandwich (MTD only, I believe)
JellyBean (MTD only)
BML is the "stock" low-level disk routines used by Samsung ROMs, as well as some custom Gingerbread ROMs. MTD is an open-source alternative to BML that is popular with later Gingerbread ROMs, as well as probably all ICS and JB ROMs. If you are going to use an MTD ROM, you should find a solid MTD Gingerbread ROM to do the switch-over from BML to MTD to make sure it goes smoothly.
I can't really say which is "best" between all the ROMs. There are many good ones out there. A lot of people will have which ROM they use or like in their signature.
With any ROM, read the main thread to see what things might not work for you if you try the ROM.
Some of the general things that are pretty much universal are:
ICS
WiFi Calling doesn't work
Indicated WiFi signal level appears lower
JB
Built-in GPS doesn't work
WiFi Calling doesn't work
Indicated WiFi signal level appears lower
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Ok thanks for the suggestions but I have been looking at the tutorials on this and it says you need cwm but that isn't supported by this device sgs4g. What do i do? Here is what I am trying to install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2587589
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...you need cwm but that isn't supported by this device sgs4g.
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It is true that you can't install Clockwork recovery by itself on the SGS4G. However, the custom kernels have either CWR or TWRP "built in" to them. (On the SGS4G, kernel and recovery bound together and flashed as a single unit.)
Here is what I am trying to install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2587589
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Well, that is quite a first ROM to try to flash! Let's see, it says "beta" in the header, it's been out for under 24 hours, people are reporting difficulties flashing it, it has a different partition structure than any other SGS4G ROM, oh, and it's the first KitKat ROM for the phone, so the Android part of the phone is very different and potentially still has major bugs. I think you're in for a world of hurt if you try something that hasn't stabilized to the point that people are generally successful with it, especially if you aren't comfortable with the whole flashing process yet.
I'd suggest one of the well-proven ICS ROMs as a start. The are relatively robust in their ability to install and generally perform very well on the phone. Take a couple weeks with it to know how it performs on the phone for you and then look again at what you might want to try out.
While you can generally upgrade your data from one Android release to the next using a tool like Titanium Backup, going back is dicey, at best. I didn't decide to upgrade my day-today phone from GB to ICS for quite some time after the ROMs were available for just that reason. I'd hate to find out that there was a show-stopper bug and I couldn't go back to GB without losing my data.
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It is true that you can't install Clockwork recovery by itself on the SGS4G. However, the custom kernels have either CWR or TWRP "built in" to them. (On the SGS4G, kernel and recovery bound together and flashed as a single unit.)
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I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff I have been looking around and I can't find any custom kernels that have it pre installed could you please help me on this.
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Well, that is quite a first ROM to try to flash! Let's see, it says "beta" in the header, it's been out for under 24 hours, people are reporting difficulties flashing it, it has a different partition structure than any other SGS4G ROM, oh, and it's the first KitKat ROM for the phone, so the Android part of the phone is very different and potentially still has major bugs. I think you're in for a world of hurt if you try something that hasn't stabilized to the point that people are generally successful with it, especially if you aren't comfortable with the whole flashing process yet.
I'd suggest one of the well-proven ICS ROMs as a start. The are relatively robust in their ability to install and generally perform very well on the phone. Take a couple weeks with it to know how it performs on the phone for you and then look again at what you might want to try out.
While you can generally upgrade your data from one Android release to the next using a tool like Titanium Backup, going back is dicey, at best. I didn't decide to upgrade my day-today phone from GB to ICS for quite some time after the ROMs were available for just that reason. I'd hate to find out that there was a show-stopper bug and I couldn't go back to GB without losing my data.
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That makes sense I'll wait for slim kat until the bugs have been fixed and until I get the hang of this.SO just to be certain I should start from ics then move up to jelly bean?
It's my personal opinion that the GB and ICS ROMs are the most stable and reliable for "daily driver" phones. Others like the JB experience. KitKat has a lot of potential, but I'd wait a bit until it settles down. The first few releases on any new Android version are generally a bit rough, even when from the best of devs.
The AntonX Basic kernel from the heimdall one-click thread should get you what you need to get started.
I'm a little puzzled though, how you flashed the first ROM if you didn't have CWR or some other recovery already installed. If it was ROM Manager that you used, it definitely would have caused problems (and will if you use it again).
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It's my personal opinion that the GB and ICS ROMs are the most stable and reliable for "daily driver" phones. Others like the JB experience. KitKat has a lot of potential, but I'd wait a bit until it settles down. The first few releases on any new Android version are generally a bit rough, even when from the best of devs.
The AntonX Basic kernel from the heimdall one-click thread should get you what you need to get started.
I'm a little puzzled though, how you flashed the first ROM if you didn't have CWR or some other recovery already installed. If it was ROM Manager that you used, it definitely would have caused problems (and will if you use it again).
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Ok I will try this right now see if I can even follow the tutorial and I got valhalla by using sgs kernel flasher which is an app on the marketplace.
jeffsf said:
It's my personal opinion that the GB and ICS ROMs are the most stable and reliable for "daily driver" phones. Others like the JB experience. KitKat has a lot of potential, but I'd wait a bit until it settles down. The first few releases on any new Android version are generally a bit rough, even when from the best of devs.
The AntonX Basic kernel from the heimdall one-click thread should get you what you need to get started.
I'm a little puzzled though, how you flashed the first ROM if you didn't have CWR or some other recovery already installed. If it was ROM Manager that you used, it definitely would have caused problems (and will if you use it again).
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ok so I decided to go for slimkat 4.4.2 and I actually installed it correctly but I don't have the google play store and all that I tried to install gapps but not sure if I had the right version. When I was flashing them it said installation successful but when the phone rebooted it says the applications stopped working.
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ok so I decided to go for slimkat 4.4.2 and I actually installed it correctly but I don't have the google play store and all that I tried to install gapps but not sure if I had the right version. When I was flashing them it said installation successful but when the phone rebooted it says the applications stopped working.
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Hullo man (or mam) I'm the tooth cavity bringer as u can see (w kitkat or sth like that). For your issue, I think you first should get used to installing custom ROM on this phone first, with Recovery: backup & restore procedure, flashing zip,... and heimdall oneclick procedure as jeffsf has been avised you tho before installing kitkat. And yeah, a user got Playstore work out by heimdall oneclick back to stock, and follow my instruction in the slimkat thread again carefully (super clean install) so you can try if you know what you are doing then.
If you are feeling confused and frustrated w the instruction and bugs that might happen to your phone, you can/should flash sth considered stable first like ICS ROMs (that Jeffsf recommended) w Jeffsf's kernels as they are easier to flash and almost bug-free .
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Hullo man (or mam) I'm the tooth cavity bringer as u can see (w kitkat or sth like that). For your issue, I think you first should get used to installing custom ROM on this phone first, with Recovery: backup & restore procedure, flashing zip,... and heimdall oneclick procedure as jeffsf has been avised you tho before installing kitkat. And yeah, a user got Playstore work out by heimdall oneclick back to stock, and follow my instruction in the slimkat thread again carefully (super clean install) so you can try if you know what you are doing then.
If you are feeling confused and frustrated w the instruction and bugs that might happen to your phone, you can/should flash sth considered stable first like ICS ROMs (that Jeffsf recommended) w Jeffsf's kernels as they are easier to flash and almost bug-free .
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thanks for the suggestions I installed slimkat but I didn't have the play store because I forgot to flash the gapps now I finally got everything working it runs pretty smooth. I wanted to challenge myself so I chose the harder one and I did okay.