Question regarding backups - General Questions and Answers

Hi
Yesterday i wanted to check out a new Rom. So i did a Backup in cwm 5. I flashed the new Rom, After wipeing and factory Reset. Off course i did not touch fat32.
When i restored my backup it looked like a complete fresh install.
Can anyone explain what happened???

Really...no ideas at all?
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Could you explain fresh install? I mean fresh install of your old rom or the new one.
I'm really still new to flashing but i think if you do a nand backup you backup your entire old rom.
Still one tested advice, next time backup your apps with titanium backup,copy backup on pc, wipe all, install rom, format sd card,after that restore apps using titanium backup, i think thats as clean and tidy as it gets.You don't need to format sd card but its cleaner that way.
Hope it helped.
P.S: Some roms (especially ICS and JB) need the partition to be formatted as ext (extended) partition still idk if a rom will automatically format the partition, my bro nedded to manually reformat using cwm, i didn't really follow the process when i was adding my ics rom but i didn't need to repartition, at least not manually.

By fresh install i mean like if you just flashed a rom without doing any configuration or installing anything.
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patmast3r said:
By fresh install i mean like if you just flashed a rom without doing any configuration or installing anything.
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Well it is a new rom, what you backed up as far as i understand is your old rom with settings, so it's just normall for the new rom to be fresh installed.

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[Q] Nandroid Backup Question

Can you use a Nandroid backup across any ROM, or is it specific to the one you backed it up on? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question... I just switched ROMs cause I'm trying a few of them out, but for some reason it's saying my SIM card has no contacts. I'd also like my SMS's back too. THanks
I think so, wait for confirmation as I'm not 100 percent. But I do believe that is one of the main capabilities of a nandroid.
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@OP:
Nandroid backup holds good ONLY for the ROM u flashed.
1. Flashed ROM 1
2. Took a nandroid backup
3. Cleaned and flashed ROM 2
At this point, the nandroid backup at step 2 will not hold good for ROM 2. If u restore it after step 3, u'll get back to ROM 1.
If u want internal stuff like contacts, etc, u got to use an app like TiBu.
1. Flashed ROM 1
2. Took a backup of user apps and data with TiBu
3. Cleaned and flashed ROM 2
4. Restored user apps and data using TiBu
For contacts, u wud need to back up and restore system data (only) "Contacts and Storage". This is the only system data I have been able to successfully restore across multiple ROMs.
Do I need to be flashed to that ROM to restore a backup of it? I've been getting stuck at the HTC loading screen, and after using HBoot or w/e and returning to stock, tried using CWM to restore from a backup. Do I need to flash RCMix3D ROM before I can restore from the backup made from it?
Restoring a nandroid backup from rcmix3d will put you back to that Rom with all apps and data you had at the point you made the backup. If you are restoring apps and data using titanium backup, you will have to flash rcmix3d first.
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I thought so too, but all it's too is getting me stuck on the HTC boot screen. Been like that for 20 minutes so far. Dunno what I did wrong, but I'd like to get everything back to the way it was
A couple of my backups refused to flash. Do you have more than 1?
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I have two for each of my ROMs, so four total. Created days apart though.
Do they all hang when booting?
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A nandroid backup makes a complete copy of your phone as is when you perform the backup, obviously this includes the rom you are currently running.
If you are running rom A and do a nandroid and then flash rom B, and then restore the nandroid backup you previously made you lose everything you've done since the backup and you are back where you were on rom A when you did the nandroid.
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biglittlegato said:
A couple of my backups refused to flash. Do you have more than 1?
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Check out if both are EXT4 compatible.
ROM 1: EXT4 not compatible
ROM 2: EXT4 compatible
1. Flash ROM 1 (formats to non-ext4 and flashes ROM)
2. Nandroid backup of ROM 1
3. Flash ROM 2 (formats to ext4 and flashes ROM)
4. Nandroid backup of ROM 2
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5. Restore backup of ROM 1
This could fail since partitions are ext4 and ROM 1 is not ext4 compatible.
Here is what I do as a standard before restoring any backup:
1. Data/factory wipe
2. Dalvik cache wipe
3. Restore ROM
This worked all the time, except once when I got MD5 error (probably cos I backed up on an earlier version of CWM, not sure though).
@biglittlegato
Yeah, they all hang on the HTC screen. It's starting to piss me off. I know that it's a risk with rooting and stuff, but I'd rather just not have to start all over with my content.... again. I just flashed a clean RCMix3D, so maybe it will let me restore my backup from that.
@Perseids
That kind of thing may be obvious to you, but not to those of us who are new to Android and rooting. Hence why I was asking in the first place. I get that I'd lose everything I haven't backed up... but right now I seem to have lost everything period, as none of my backups want to work for some reason.
Maybe I am doing it wrong? After getting to the stock version of 2.2, I go to ROM Manager, and then to manage backups/restores. I click on that, then hit the backup I want to restore from, and it's supposed to work. It does it's thing, then just freezes on the HTC screen once it reboots. I watched it and read the script, and there were no errors or anything that would give an indication as to why it's doing that...
diablo009 said:
Check out if both are EXT4 compatible.
ROM 1: EXT4 not compatible
ROM 2: EXT4 compatible
1. Flash ROM 1 (formats to non-ext4 and flashes ROM)
2. Nandroid backup of ROM 1
3. Flash ROM 2 (formats to ext4 and flashes ROM)
4. Nandroid backup of ROM 2
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5. Restore backup of ROM 1
This could fail since partitions are ext4 and ROM 1 is not ext4 compatible.
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Thanks for the help.... but I have no idea what this means haha. I get the basic idea, but I don't know what ext4 is.
elijahpr said:
Thanks for the help.... but I have no idea what this means haha. I get the basic idea, but I don't know what ext4 is.
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Don't worry too much. EXT4 is a partition type. Most recent ROMs support this. Just make sure in the ROM thread OP if it converts partitions to EXT4 (if yes, what all partitions).
I was just reading the script while it was (trying) to restore, and it said something about erasing boot before restore... is that normal? I just did a full wipe, flashed to the ROM I did the backup from, and the backup seems to be stuck again.Dang.
elijahpr said:
I was just reading the script while it was (trying) to restore, and it said something about erasing boot before restore... is that normal? I just did a full wipe, flashed to the ROM I did the backup from, and the backup seems to be stuck again.Dang.
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Restoring process erases everything, and restores. Compare this to norton ghost partition restoration process.
I guess I might as well just start over from scratch. It was only a few days worth of pictures/videos/texts and stuff, so not a HUGE loss. Still, wish the backups had worked as they were supposed to. As of right now it's still frozen on the HTC screen hah.
elijahpr said:
I guess I might as well just start over from scratch. It was only a few days worth of pictures/videos/texts and stuff, so not a HUGE loss. Still, wish the backups had worked as they were supposed to. As of right now it's still frozen on the HTC screen hah.
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Data on SD card will NOT be deleted unless u choose to format SD card. All ur pics, vids, etc reside on ur SD card.
It doesn't show up anywhere. I just booted into CWM, and tried to select one of the backups, but it said "no file found". WTF. Sooooo it's telling me the backups are there, but don't contain anything I think. Nice.
elijahpr said:
It doesn't show up anywhere. I just booted into CWM, and tried to select one of the backups, but it said "no file found". WTF. Sooooo it's telling me the backups are there, but don't contain anything I think. Nice.
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If you're backups are not restoring you will lose data that's part of the ROM. Your pics and videos would definitely still reside on the SD card. You'd have to format SD to lost those.
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3 simple questions

i have just installed the virtuous unity rom v.1.29. its amazing
1. when i update to the new installment will all my data be wiped such as apps etc?
2. ive seen some kernal, unity something do i need to flash this aswell?
3. ive backed up my previous stock rom on my sd card. is it possile to move the clockwork folder to the computer which contains the back up and then move it back if i need to restore?
Thanks for your time, i know i know ive got very little experience lol
sayeed91 said:
i have just installed the virtuous unity rom v.1.29. its amazing
1. when i update to the new installment will all my data be wiped such as apps etc?
2. ive seen some kernal, unity something do i need to flash this aswell?
3. ive backed up my previous stock rom on my sd card. is it possile to move the clockwork folder to the computer which contains the back up and then move it back if i need to restore?
Thanks for your time, i know i know ive got very little experience lol
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1. A flash over the top with no wipe will keep your apps. If however the dev has done an update with a new base, a wipe is recommended.
2. Do a nandroid backup and try the kernel. I get fantastic battery life on coredroid with it.
3. Yes but NEVER rename the folder else it will never restore. It will fail on md5 checksum error.
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If you wanna backup your apps, use Titanium Backup. It's awesome, use it all the time. It also backs up data.
Also, you need to manually wipe all data before you flash
Kernel is optional, but you should try it.
About the backup - put it in the PC, i have. If you ever wanna delete the backup from your phone but want to keep it on your PC, then delete the contents of the backup folder in the phone, not the folder itself. I have 2 backups on my phone right now. Consumes waaaaay too much space. Got 5 on my PC
OK..... So if I use titanium backup now for some apps and install another Tom it will be there even if I wipe data and stuff?
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So with virtuous unity does it reproduce the same battery life as stock
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no. You need to restore the apps.

A lot of crap on the device p3110

Well this may sound stupid but i masterd the root and flash method, i thought. But when i factory reset the tab, wipe cache and dalvik and all that there is still a lot of old crap on the device. There is however an option which says format sdcard, and there is the problem. I am kind of a chicken sh#t and do not dare to select that option, affraid of wiping everything and not be able to flash a new rom. Do i have to format sd begore flashing a new rom?
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The crap will be there till you load another rom. Yiu can always remove some stuffs from system/app but i think you shouldnt. Hope some1 with more knowleege can confirm or correct me.
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Depends on the stuff you want to delete, but wiping your SD card is not the right choice unless everything on your SD card is just junk.
Load a ROM that is more to your taste and/or use Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware that you want gone.
If you want to use stock ROM then root your device and use Titanium Backup to remove bloatware (back up the app then freeze it or delete it.) then reboot.
I tried that option when I had cm 10 on my tablet it deleted evething on my internal sd card but did not mess with my system ..after doing that I booted normally into cm 10 from cwm....:cyclops:

[Q] Bootloop with stock rom

Hi,
Yesterday i restored my old stock rom backup, successfuly ofcourse
I saw that many apps were moved to sd card( sd card wasnt partitioned that time). And eventually data of those apps were in my sd card which i formatted before! So when i open those apps it says no longer linked to phone theni decided to factory reset because it was a hell lotta mess.....so i did a factory reset from recovery menu and rebooted!
And now i am stuck in a bootloop
I just wanted a fresh start of my rom
Any type of help?
Thanks
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MF101 said:
Hi,
Yesterday i restored my old stock rom backup, successfuly ofcourse
I saw that many apps were moved to sd card( sd card wasnt partitioned that time). And eventually data of those apps were in my sd card which i formatted before! So when i open those apps it says no longer linked to phone theni decided to factory reset because it was a hell lotta mess.....so i did a factory reset from recovery menu and rebooted!
And now i am stuck in a bootloop
I just wanted a fresh start of my rom
Any type of help?
Thanks
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clean dalvik cache from recovery and fix the permission then try there is chance to get it into boot...
Thanks for ur reply....gonna try that!
And one thing was flickering in my head....that if i factory reset does it delete superuser ? Or it has anything to do with it?
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MF101 said:
Thanks for ur reply....gonna try that!
And one thing was flickering in my head....that if i factory reset does it delete superuser ? Or it has anything to do with it?
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Usally the super user application present in the system partition. factory reset will wipe only the data partition. So super user don't affected but Settings belongs to super user also will lost...
Same thing happened to me. So i wiped everything and installed a custom rom

[Q] How do you make a nandroid backup?

I recently flashed Proton's ICS kernel because I wanted to watch videos, and it came with TWRP instead of CWM. How do I make a nandroid backup with TWRP?
And is there anyway I can switch to CWM from TWRP?
And another question, How do I view the system files?
Just go to backup on the main screen but that TWRP backup only really works if you are using TWRP to restore that backup. If you want CWM thrn easiest way is to vhnge the kernel to something else
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fabricatedhero said:
Just go to backup on the main screen but that TWRP backup only really works if you are using TWRP to restore that backup. If you want CWM thrn easiest way is to vhnge the kernel to something else
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What do I check though? There are six options.
System
Data
Boot
Recovery
Cache
.android_secure
I checked everything especially system and data...doesnt really hurt anything it just makes the backup a larger file since more data is being backedup
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it depends...
when you do a backup in recovery mode....
"sometimes" it means that you are not sure about you are flashing right now...
so when you do a restore.... it will back to ur "previews rom" and apps etc...
BUT! BUT! when you are sure to ur chosen rom..
Do a titanium backup... before flashing you ROMS.
this backup can restore your apps ( just install the apps and restore )
like action games.. your save gameplays your high scores etc...
Suggest that you do it BOTH.

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