I'm currently running ics bata10 and was wounding when I Restore one of my back up should I wipe everything then restore or don't need to wipe just restore
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smok3thekid said:
I'm currently running ics bata10 and was wounding when I Restore one of my back up should I wipe everything then restore or don't need to wipe just restore
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Technically you don't have to wipe because the nand restore process actually does a full wipe for you... but me personally, I always wipe at least cache and dalvik before restoring a nand, just to make sure there's nothing left over from the previous ROM.
Surely this question has been asked dozens of times, but given the brickbug I'm not sure if there's a better way for our skyrockets.
I'd like to try out the new Chimera, coming from SkyICS. Would it be best to format everything and do factory reset, inside CWM or to restore my backup right after originally flashing CWM with stock 2.3.6?
Thanks
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Either lol just don't do any wipes in an ics rom
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nrm5110 said:
Either lol just don't do any wipes in an ics rom
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Went with the restore, no problems. I'm oblivious as to how to wipe the actual data which includes all the prior apps. Wipe Data/Factory reset didn't work. Do I need to just format SDCard in CWM to get rid of everything? Or is the main mount the /emmc?
Only thing I found with looking around was just deleting everything while mounting to PC. Went with that but it only deleted about 700mb. I know I had a couple games installed that took up ~1.5gb total, so I must assume 1 was deleted at some other point.
A dirty flash is only wiping cache and davlik then flashing your ROM....
a Clean flash is at LEAST factory reset/data wipe + wiping davlik(factory wipe takes care of /cache also)... Maybe doing a format /system also.
SO let the games begin! Which is better?! FIGHT!!
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Brian Gove said:
A dirty flash is only wiping cache and davlik then flashing your ROM....
a Clean flash is at LEAST factory reset/data wipe + wiping davlik(factory wipe takes care of /cache also)... Maybe doing a format /system also.
SO let the games begin! Which is better?! FIGHT!!
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If I switch ROM's I factory reset then wipe cache and dalvik cache. If it's a theme for example I only wipe cache and dalvik cache since the theme is suppose to be made for your ROM right?....don't see the reason to reflash the ROM as well.
Wipe data? What's that for? Is THAT why my phone won't turn on..........
Nightlies: No data wipe (yes to cache/dakvik)
New rom, even if it's the same android build: always, full wipe
Themes: No wipe at all, flash right on, right after flashing rom's. Don't like to wait for two bootups!
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Il throw a vote to whichever works.. I usually dirty wipe.. If I have issues then clean it and try again.. With nightlies I tend to be fine dirty a lot, but even still I will do a clean every couple weeks just because..
why do so many folks wipe cache and dalvik after they wipe data? A data wipe/factory reset wipes all three, there is no need to do anything else.
I always wipe data, flash rom, then advance restore data only from a nandroid...dirty flashing in its most elegant form
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
Do you wipe prior to re-flashing, or afterwards? Does it matter?
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What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
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Dirty wipe
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When I dirty flash, I wipe data cache n dalvik cache. Once I flash what I wanted, I wipe those two once again n select "fix permissions" just in case
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So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
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I disagree. I believe a dirty flash also wipes system. If you are 100% certain that your ROM build effectively wipes system as part of it's install routine, then you could skip this step, however I always wipe system to be safe. This works for me and I rarely need to wipe data or sd card(s).
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xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that?
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When changing Kernels but not the ROM in a separate recovery session than a ROM flash, you don't need to "dirty wipe." Just wipe cache and dalvik. Dalvik wipe is key so that the dalvik virtual machine can be rebuilt by the new kernel.
Thanks for the info guys.
I usually dirty on nightlies until I have issues. Always clean when switching roms.
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It is always good to complete wipe when switching roms.
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What if im just switching between stock rom nandroid backups? Can I just restore from one to one? I only have two backups anyways both for stock. Never flashed a rom before
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grin0048 said:
This isn't meant to be rude or anything, I'm just honestly wondering if there's any logical reason to think this is substantively different than just not wiping data?
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I find that this method works better than just wiping cache and dalvik, since im advance restoring data over a clean flash. both ways are considered dirty flashing tho.
I wipe dalvik, cache and battery stats. Works like a charm thus far. Wiping data is what blows out the IMEI correct?
coldhardtruth said:
I wipe dalvik, cache and battery stats. Works like a charm thus far. Wiping data is what blows out the IMEI correct?
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Incorrect, flashing anything is what may lead to losing your IMEI. Backup using the appropriate tools in the development section. Btw stop wiping battery stats, it's not necessary.
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droidstyle said:
why do so many folks wipe cache and dalvik after they wipe data? A data wipe/factory reset wipes all three, there is no need to do anything else.
I always wipe data, flash rom, then advance restore data only from a nandroid...dirty flashing in its most elegant form
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Factory reset doesn't touch the davlik(Which I speculate(Guess) has to do more with the kernel than anything)
apet8464 said:
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
Do you wipe prior to re-flashing, or afterwards? Does it matter?
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This is what I meant as a dirty flash when I made the thread yes...
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What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
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Usually when I flash a new kernel, or a different kernel, I just wipe the davlik cache and I am fine. There was some reboots after the first boot on the AOSP ROMs but afterwards it ran fine.
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Incorrect, flashing anything is what may lead to losing your IMEI. Backup using the appropriate tools in the development section. Btw stop wiping battery stats, it's not necessary.
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SlimSnoop is correct. According to one of the developers of a very prominent ROM the IMEI issue was because our phones got confused sometimes(Randomly phone to phone) and tried to reset during a flash. The data it tried to reset was bogus, therefor losing IMEI. He is also correct far as the wiping battery stats. It's only usefull when you have really strange results with battery. Google for the real reason to use them.
Far as backing up your IMEI so you will never run into the problem of losing it.... go into your terminal (almost every ROM has a Terminal emulator)
Type this:
su
then hit enter. Grant permissions
then type:
reboot nvbackup
then hit enter. This will make your phone do some shyt and reboot, but you really shouldn't need to worry about your IMEI after this. Regardless of how many ROMs you flash or what you do or who you date or who you kiss, etc... blah blah....
This really should be the end all for the IMEI...
annoyngduck said:
Wipe data? What's that for? Is THAT why my phone won't turn on..........
Nightlies: No data wipe (yes to cache/dakvik)
New rom, even if it's the same android build: always, full wipe
Themes: No wipe at all, flash right on, right after flashing rom's. Don't like to wait for two bootups!
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New rom only when their bases are different , like going from ics to jb, or the dev says to do it (Even then Ill try it without a wipe because im lazy).
Themes I never wipe anything
Nightlies never wipe anything.
Edit: If I do have issues I then go back and wipe delvik and cache . That usually straightens out any issues and allows me to keep my setup.
tonu42 said:
Hey but you know I'm right
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Actually you're not right.
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So i was having a problem with SynergyROM r74, so I just downloaded r73 and used CWM to install it.
I did wipe cache and thats it.
Do I have to do a full wipe and then install from r74 -> r73?
Or is it fine?
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And also, I heard r73 is the most stable ROM from Synergy so far?
Is that true?
Ideally no one would argue with a clean wipe.
But if it's working with a dirty wipe then you're fine.
Yes r73 is stable. I also like r64 and r60.
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I'm slightly a noob.
How would I be able to do a clean wipe??
Cwm and just do wipe?
1. Wipe data/factory reset. 2. Wipe cache partition. 3. Go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache.
Now you are fully wiped.
And based off of the synergyrom thread posts r73 seems to be the most stable.
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Okay... I'm a fresh rookie here and need some help or guidance. I flashed r73 with lk-1.zip everything is running smooth, but I seen someone say there is a better kernel witch is I think clean kernel 1.2 Would you guys recommend lean or clean? And is it necessary to do this over clock under clock stuff? :what:
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I'd it required to do the dalvik cache wipe?
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I'd it required to do the dalvik cache wipe?
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On a dirty flash dalvic is the most important. It resets the boot part of all apps.
What happens if I don't do it?
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What happens if I don't do it?
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Apps may Force close. If app has been updated will have data cached from both versions.
Okay.
So for the third time, I installed SynergyROM clean.
This time I wiped everything.
COMPLETE! lol.. now just restoring my settings and stuff xD
I want start by saying that I did not take the 4.3 OTA from Verizon. I flashed my phone from 4.2.1 to 4.4.1 cm11 and various KitKat Roms. My last being mastamoons version. I wanted to flash back to a 4.3 TW ROM for stability. KitKat has been wonderful the days it decided to be 100% stable. But the myriad of issues plaguing my daily apps, freezing or phone rebooting warranted a flash to TW 4.3. I made a forum post because I was not entirely sure how to flash from 4.4 AOSP back to 4.3 TW and the advice given to me on CleanROM 8.1 thread was to format data, cache, dalvik and flash the zip. I did so and everything was fine. No bootloop (yet, kinda. Will get to that). So my phone rebooted and the first try got me to the start screen. Here is where things go wrong. It asks me for my PIN or Password as if it is encrypted. I've never encrypted my phone so I was perplexed. I thought maybe I triggered KNOX? But CleanRom 8.1 is touchwiz. But it doesn't not include KNOX from what I've read. I've wiped system and tried multiple methods of formatting the phone and I always get back to the same problem .
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The bootloop I solved after
I formatted /system. I even restored my previous cm10.2.1 backup which was on 4.3 and I did a manual factory reset from settings. Then I formatted data, cache, dalvik and still nothing.
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ErikFry said:
The bootloop I solved after
I formatted /system. I even restored my previous cm10.2.1 backup which was on 4.3 and I did a manual factory reset from settings. Then I formatted data, cache, dalvik and still nothing.
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Try doing a complete wipe. What recovery are you using?
I have wiped system, data and cache. Isn't that a full wipe? I'm running the latest clockwork mod recovery. Thank you for your response.
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ErikFry said:
I have wiped system, data and cache. Isn't that a full wipe? I'm running the latest clockwork mod recovery. Thank you for your response.
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Try another recovery maybe? I did get your PM
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ErikFry said:
I have wiped system, data and cache. Isn't that a full wipe? I'm running the latest clockwork mod recovery. Thank you for your response.
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You need to wipe your internal sdcard. Backup any important files to your external SD or a computer. Then wipe everything. System. Data. Internal SD card. Caches. Format system. Then flash the modem in the op if you haven't already. Should be in the op of the ROM you want to flash. Then flash the ROM. Might take up to 10-15 minutes for initial boot so be patient. You should be all good from there.
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Thanks man. Will try tonight.
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