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First let me introduce myself. The name is Darcy and I have been casually using linux and other *nix OS for about a decade. I am in school working on a programing degree ATM, and am a pretty quick study. Anyways, I without much research bought my wife a generic 7" tablet running android 1.6. I know what processor it has and Im hoping that leads me to a place to start. Ok so the device is a "Kasser Net'sGo" we didnt realize that its just a china pad with another companys name on it when we ordered it. So most of the apps dont run correctly, and in general the device sucks(on a software level the HW is fine although generic).
Anyways it apears that i can get into recovery mode to flash if i had no other choices. But since there are no official roms im hoping to find a build thats based on the same CPU or similar hardware to find a starting point. Its running the Marvell Aspen 800mhz chip and standard ddr2. Sadly thats all we have been able to find out about this device.
I have compiled custom builds for linux before, and i have now purchased a Gtab so i have a less garbage device to test some things on(i have allready flashed 2 different roms and fooled with a bunch of the settings). But we would realy like to do something with this other tablet. So if anyone can point me in the direction of some info on how to do android builds or a repository of chipset drivers and such that might help me that would be greatly appreciated.
Can our HTC CHa Cha run Jelly Bean and is someone of our DEVs capable of Porting it to the phone ?
Tasadar, Let's be a bit optimistic. I am sure its a product of their time availability as well. This is a hobby after all!
I would be interested in stuff like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815962 which promises to make it automated!
I don't think it's a matter of whether it -can- run it, as whether someone will actually port it.
So far ICS/CM9 is going very well, and runs very smoothly, and from what I've heard - JB/CM10 runs even faster in general, so would in fact be ideal for this device.
The biggest thing is porting device drivers/libraries, such as for the cameras, which even in the ICS/CM9 port only one of the two currently works.
Be patient, and I'm sure we'll see at least an attempt, if not a full JB port in the future
I can't say it will work or not, but if I have time I'll try to see how it goes after the holidays (mid September).
SuperOSR link is up! Check OP.
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SuperOSR link is up! Check OP.
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Thanks Alex, but wrong thread I believe lol
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Thanks Alex, but wrong thread I believe lol
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Yeah, right now I'm curious why I posted in the wrong thread... and in other threads as well..
I'd really like to see some work on this if anyone is willing to take it up. I'd -love- to start it myself, but to be entirely honest, I would have zero idea on where to start.
I know that CM10 is currently running on the Samsung Galaxy Gio, which is significant in that it runs the same(or nearly the same) processor as the ChaCha.
(it uses a 800MHz Qualcomm QCT MSM7227-1 Turbo, whereas the ChaCha lists 800MHz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM7227 Turbo, both are ARMv6)
The Gio has less ram, and less storage.
So at the very least we can assume the device will at least -run- JB/CM10.
I am aware that the CM9 port isn't entirely perfect yet, and that rom porting must be very difficult, particularly with getting the internal devices working correctly(network, camera, etc)
but I have a feeling this will be well worth the effort.
I recently tried out CM10 on my Acer A500 Iconia Tablet, and WOW! the speed was at least doubled from either the stock GB rom, as well as the unofficial CM9 port.
If it can do so much for a more powerful device, imagine what it could do for our beautiful - yet underpowered - phone, the ChaCha/Status.
I would also be more than willing to put my phone on the line to help test where testing is needed.
Please, someone, take this up!
I rooted my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8010) and I ran Ubuntu on top of android using Complete Linux Installer app
I wanna know if you can install and run ubuntu NATIVELY on the galaxy note 10.1 because I know people have installed ubuntu natively on the Asus Transformer pad, and I dont see why cant this device handle it.
So developers please answer this!!!!
hiruna said:
I rooted my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8010) and I ran Ubuntu on top of android using Complete Linux Installer app
I wanna know if you can install and run ubuntu NATIVELY on the galaxy note 10.1 because I know people have installed ubuntu natively on the Asus Transformer pad, and I dont see why cant this device handle it.
So developers please answer this!!!!
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Hi! I'm also looking for a native build of Ubuntu for the Galaxy Note 10.1 but what I wanna ask you is the performance of chroot. Are you able to type in LibreOffice without a lag? I'm one click away from ordering a device and I really need a full office suite for educational reasons (I'm a student).
What is more, my own hopes are about another way of getting better Ubuntu. The project you use (linux on android) aims to have native video output for some devices and it might be really better than a fully native Ubuntu. The GUI will be fast but at the same time Android will stay one click away with full support etc. What do you think?
hi there,
im a student too. my aim was to buy the TF300T at first. then when i went to the shop, the staff told me that the TF300T batch was full of returns because it was pretty sh**ty So i decided to buy the N8010 (Galaxy Note 10.1)
which is really better than the transformer because it has 2gb ram all the other cool features.like s pen and all that. i wanted to buy the transformer because it came with the keyboard dock which you can turn it into sorta netbook then i could take it to school or something. i was planning on installing ubuntu on it but ye.
so when i got this galaxy note 10.1, i rooted it and ran ubuntu like mentioned about. honestly, there is a slight lag but its not that extreme. only like milisecond(s) lag. *no other apps were running except for terminal emulator, vnc viewer and complete linux installer.
i think this is capable of doing more because literally ran a minecraft server in there LOL it loaded up pretty fast. but i havent connected into it and played yet. youtube video is working. which means it has flash support. my screen protector should arrive today so i can play around more with it. i'll load up ubuntu again. post some screen shots and maybe a video if u need one
the resources manages shows all four cores in the cpu and shows 1.8* of ram. which is good. and more than 1.2gb was available when i was running the office suite that was there.
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This is good for a start, im hoping to see developers start working on Galaxy Note 10.1 more and more. (i think its just this is still new cuz it only came out recently)
This device is really good for school. Snote app has so many features infact the device has 'samsung features' which i still havent touched on
Hoping to see some thirdparty keyboard docks for this since the samsung one is about 90-100 dollars (USD) i believe and about about 120-150dollars here in australia :/
I think the reason for the transformer pad to have native support cuz asus gave out the source code on their website ? *once i was in there website and it told me to choose the OS between android and other os*
which i belive u can install another os pretty much.
asus also had kinda a bios sorta menu when u boot it up.
hope that helps
if u wanna know anything else, simply reply
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In the case of Transformers, ASUS had open-sourced the bootloader and it was capable of booting something different than Android from scratch. That's a different story for Samsung GN 10.1, but we have a chance for native build since Samsung is developing drivers for the Exynos platform and more or less the bootloader they have is open-sourced or cracked.
As for the OFFTOPIC about learning, thank you a lot for your reply! If you can post a video of LibreOffice typing experience, it would be nice but there are a lot on YouTube already and impression is more important than videos. Personally, I have used on other N-trig tablets LectureNotes (non-free app from market) and Quill(fully open-source) and I find them many times better than S Note.
BTW, once Canonical should release the Ubuntu for Android official project, m?
I think I'll buy one SGN and join you in the battle for better software
I made a video of it
hey,
I made a video of it last night... its in Full HD but dsnt have my voice.(has background music) im still getting used to making videos and putting it up on youtube :
I'll start uploading it now.. theres about 1.01GB so might take some hours to upload
I was watching that video on XDA TV, about Samsung hating XDA, apparently samsung limiting their source codes and all that...I dunno whats gonna happen
anyway wish this was like the asus transformer where you can run other os
we just have to hope for the best :fingers-crossed:
Yes im waiting till ubuntu releases the version for android ! i've seen their official video and its really awesome
Niceee when are you going to buy it ?
P.S. oh sh**t i'm sorry, it wasn't libre office it was open office since i had downloaded ubuntu 10.1 not 12
im pretty sure it would be the same experience with typing...
:fingers-crossed:hoping more people will buy SGN 10.1 and devs will start working on it:fingers-crossed:
video will be at
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Slow upload
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What's your upload speed? I want to see the lag and then go to the store, so I'm waiting for your video.
Have seen two guys with SGN in the tram on the way to university, so the popularity comes very fast to the device.
Hello,
Im sorry to tell u this but something went wrong with youtube and it said the video was deleted :S
so im uploading it again. I faxed google and sent them a email but no reply. so uploading again.
upload speed is like 0.40mbps (speedtest) and ye
Its nice to see that its getting popular
Video
May be it would be faster not to upload Full HD? Otherwise, you will be uploading 1 gig my whole life
dam, im sorry
its 41% and about 311 mins remaining..
I'll see if i can let you stream the video from my pc, that way its easier
sorry again....
Hopefully this upload doesnt fail and if it does (hope it doesnt) but if it does i'll upload low quality..
Full hd video :d
HERE YOU GO :
OR
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iut3EivSTB4
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where can i find this rom? Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8010) [rooted, Stock XSA]
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hi there,
Where can I find this elusive XSA Rom? I want android 4.03 to look as stock as it can and to get rid of that samsung user interface? Does this rom bring the android install back down to stock?
Thanks,
Matt
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Hello,
If you want to root the Stock ICS XSA for N8010, you will have to download the firmware from : http://www.hotfile.com/dl/177420056/592b6c1/N8010XWALI6_N8010XSAALI1_XSA.zip.html and root it your self.
I have attached the rooting files (thanks to zedomax ) and extract the files to a folder. and follow zedomax's instructions.
Hope this helps...
BUT this will not get rid of the Samsung user interface. If you want to get rid of the STOCK SAMSUNG STUFF, you will have to consider flashing CM10
I wrote a tutorial here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958621
thumbs up!
Great news for tablet owners. Ubuntu will support Nexus 7. So Tegra 3 devices first and maybe Exinox later...
I really hope Team Hacksung will jump into this and make out tablet the best device ever. It will be much better then any W8 RT device because of Ubuntu ARM repositories, lots and lots of app (Libre Office, Gimp, VLC..etc).
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
Wow thanks for this info im looking forward for ubuntu to be come available on my galaxy note 10.1
Any update on this? That is a real shame no one ported Ubuntu to Note 10.1 when there is Ubuntu running even of Asus Transformer TF101. Lack of drivers?
I dont really know honestly. Its just maybe the devs arnt putting much attention to this... WHY ? i dont know. its a great device. better that transformer pad TF300T.... its new.. and 2gb ram and all that. can handle ubuntu very well i suppose. even the nexus 7 got native from Ubuntu officially.. comeon devs!!!
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I dont really know honestly. Its just maybe the devs arnt putting much attention to this... WHY ? i dont know. its a great device. better that transformer pad TF300T.... its new.. and 2gb ram and all that. can handle ubuntu very well i suppose. even the nexus 7 got native from Ubuntu officially.. comeon devs!!!
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I just bought this about a week ago and I am loving it. I am going to college and working on electrical engineering and about to take more c++ classes. Do I have to run Ubuntu natively to use a C++ program, or whast the best way?
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I just bought this about a week ago and I am loving it. I am going to college and working on electrical engineering and about to take more c++ classes. Do I have to run Ubuntu natively to use a C++ program, or whast the best way?
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It would be better if there was a native distro of Ubuntu for this. Ubuntu running on top of android maybe laggy (with your requirements). I still dont understand why developers arnt looking into this If u have a good internet connection at home you can use Splashtop to stream your pc into the tablet. all the touch features work. Its free for local use but if u want to use it remotely (pc at home and tablet at workplace) theres a membership for it.
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Ubuntu running on top of android maybe laggy
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What is more important - pressure sensitivity of the stylus won't work if it's not running native.
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What is more important - pressure sensitivity of the stylus won't work if it's not running native.
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I rekon since note 10.1 is abit new they havent made native ubuntu. I got rid of samsungs os and installed cyanogenmod 10 on it. Its jellybean .and way more smoother and faster. Yes pressure sensitivity is working. U can also use the stylus as the cursor (mouse) while hovered on top of the screen without touching the screen. Minor bugs but i use it and i use lecturenotes from the google play for my school... I wrote a tut on how to install cyanogenmod since people couldnt flash that rom thru clockworkmod. Hope this helps
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I checked out the specs of the newly-announced $249 chromebook, and I realized what an awesome android device it would make, if only android was successfully ported to it....
I know at the same price point we can get a n7 32gig, but the larger 11.6" LED HD tempts me, though the res at 1366 x 768 is not that great. also, all the hands-on reviews have heaped a lot of praise on the high-quality keyboard-touchpad on the device, which is even more tempting and would make up for the lack of touch input on the device...
Its config is pretty identical to a flagship android phone/tablet with two cortex-A15 cores on the Exynos 5250, 2gig RAM and 16GB onboard storage with an expandable mem slot, 2 full usb ports and a full HDMI out, with the usual WiFi a/b/g/n and Bluetooth 3.0.
I'm a noob when it comes to creating ports and ROMS, but I guess it would not be such a difficult task for the awesome dev community out here to manage that feat. Maybe we need to wait for an actual android device with the exynos chip inside to release, whose android ROM we could use as a base to port to the chromebook...
windows 8 RT would be more awesome, but seeing that its a licensed OS, porting it might amount to piracy/illegal hacking, so its not something that I would discuss/encourage here....
Chromebooks boot with UEFI (Basically a modern BIOS), so the Android source code would have to be heavilly modified to be bootstraped from UEFI. Not to mention drivers and custom kernels (which isnt much of a pain if the hardware has documentation, all eyes on you Samsung.)
And I dont think we will ever see Windows on a chromebook unless someone creates an emulator for ChromeOS... Which I dont think is possible, but dont quote me on that.
i know it would take a ton of modding to find a workaround for it, but enabling the developer mode on the chromebook allows booting of an unsigned linux installation off the external memory (eg. gentoo ubuntu) on the x86 chromebooks currently available (Cr-48 etc..)
trying something similar for booting android off an image on the mem card might be a possible way...
UPDATE : https://plus.google.com/109993695638569781190/posts/b2fazijJppZ a google employee has already begun work on porting ubuntu..!!
drivers would be difficult, esp for the SoC as there is no device currently on the market with it. but maybe after Samsung releases a couple of phones/phablets running the A15's, porting of the drivers could be attempted...
I was wondering the same thing and figured I would come here to see if anything was planned. I just ordered the new one and was curious if there would be much interest in modding this thing. Guess in due time!
rumors say the upcoming google nexus 10 tablet is running identical hardware (exynos 5 dual omap15 / 2gig ram) which is gonna run android 4.2
once its out, MAYBE porting the ROM to the chromebook may become a teeny bit easier...
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rumors say the upcoming google nexus 10 tablet is running identical hardware (exynos 5 dual omap15 / 2gig ram) which is gonna run android 4.2
once its out, MAYBE porting the ROM to the chromebook may become a teeny bit easier...
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If I'm not wrong Nexus 10 will have exactly the same processor than the new Samsung Chromebook. If someon manage port android to this new latop I won't hesitate to buy it.
there is a developer board with same hardware and as far as I know it has android source codes, you can check the website http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Wasnt this done a while back with the CR-48 thanks to Hexxeh?
http://hexxeh.net/?p=328117655
Just got to find a way to port it over to the new Chromebook, then port Android.
Since Android was ported to the HP Touchpad I'm pretty confident that it can be ported to this device... I mean the touchpad was the last thing I thought Android would run on and it runs like it was made for it... COME ON DEVS!
Following this thread with anticipation.
Well seeing as this device uses the same SoC as the nexus 10 i would be hopeful someone will manage to port android. I for one would be keen to have this option!
Touch Chromebook?
If this article on Android Community turns out to be accurate and Google release a touch chromebook any time soon, I would throw some money at a kickstarter to get android on it. Would be cheaper than an N10 - and probably quicker than waiting for a keyboard dock...!
Can't link because I'm new... androidcommunity.com/google-reportedly-plotting-12-85-inch-touch-chromebook-20121126/
Very hopeful!
^ here's a +1 form me
started..
OK...I was able to get into the uboot portion of chromeos and managed to load uvboot ( unverified boot )which will allow the booting of non chrome os kernel's. however it seems its looking for something else. I already got Ubuntu loaded on it so maybe I'll try to get it booting off the SD first so I don't brick my cb.....keep you guys posted.
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OK...I was able to get into the uboot portion of chromeos and managed to load uvboot ( unverified boot )which will allow the booting of non chrome os kernel's. however it seems its looking for something else. I already got Ubuntu loaded on it so maybe I'll try to get it booting off the SD first so I don't brick my cb.....keep you guys posted.
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great work! i'm still waiting for my chromebook the stock's very erratic, and i cant find anyone willing to ship it to my country...will try to help as soon as i lay my hands on one!!
Ok ... DD'd the system.img from the stock N10 factory image and created a new BOOT partition. Booting the Chrome OS kernel worked ( which should be fine due to the fact that the CB and N10 have the EXACT same ARM SOC ) it seems the boot partition need to be re-written to work with the UEFI. im going to keep digging until I find something ( or someone lends some expertise dealing with UEFI and BOOT ).Happy New years !!
Kernel boots..just has a hard time mounting the ROOTFS...any want to shed some light on this.
Thanks
Super stoked for this!! Have been thinking this would be good to have Android on from the minute I got it!! Looking forward to this!!
hey guys
i have a question is there any chance to get ubuntu mobile on our phone?
i know its not proper released so far i m just asking
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
it is wokring on galaxy nexus
it looks very cool check that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8
thanks in advance
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hey guys
i have a question is there any chance to get ubuntu mobile on our phone?
i know its not proper released so far i m just asking
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
it is wokring on galaxy nexus
it looks very cool check that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8
thanks in advance
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Yes it is possible buddy.:good:
kataria.vikesh said:
Yes it is possible buddy.:good:
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How? ...
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How? ...
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sorry buddy wrong interpreted. Its possible as minimum requirement is Cortex A9 processor
System requirements for smartphonesEntry level Ubuntu smartphoneHigh-end Ubuntu "superphone"Processor architecture 1Ghz Cortex A9 Quad-core A9 or Intel AtomMemory 512MB – 1GB Min 1GBFlash storage 4-8GB eMMC + SD Min 32GB eMMC + SDMulti-touch YES yesDesktop convergenceNo Yes
Buddy we have a cortex A9 processor.
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Buddy we have a cortex A9 processor.
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Sorry guys, I was actually very much busy & didn;t know what I just wrote. sorry.
BT what I jst edited it correct. it will be for us...
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How? ...
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Ubuntu is gonna be one another OS for smartphones. It will use the same Linux kernels and drivers but will use its own environment for developing. So for us, it will be like a new interface for our phones...Like using Ubuntu in our Window based PC. They are planning to release new phones which have Ubuntu as their OS. I think even before their release of smartphones, they will be releasing their sources which can be used for existing Android phones.
It's just a initial teaser. Hopefully it will get released by 2014...So long way to go....
P.S - You can register yourself here @ Announcement so that you will be notified just before date is finalized for release.
I don't have words. Simply amazing! Finally a native mobile OS that can work on our device.
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The gesture support is very amazing
Only downside will be availability of apps as of now. But hopefully it will gain popularity and apps start flowing in.
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The gesture support is very amazing
Only downside will be availability of apps as of now. But hopefully it will gain popularity and apps start flowing in.
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The Development work on apps has already started. So by the time the OS is readily available for us, we will a gud volume of apps. And for those who wish to develop apps, you can check it over here.
And one more advantage is that as i said it will be developed in its own platform, it will reduce the Overhead of Java and there by it will be more smoother. Hope there won't be any head swirling smali.
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The Development work on apps has already started. So by the time the OS is readily available for us, we will a gud volume of apps. And for those who wish to develop apps, you can check it over here.
And one more advantage is that as i said it will be developed in its own platform, it will reduce the Overhead of Java and there by it will be more smoother. Hope there won't be any head swirling smali.
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What am i thinking is Tizen is also going to be release ( as humor said) & simply following it, ubuntu is also going to be. so, Android is towards downfall or something else..??
Tizen is a totally different OS. It'd be much harder to port it than Ubuntu for phones. It is said that S4 will be released with Tizen, but I don't think so. They would lose many users because of the lack of apps.
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Tizen is a totally different OS. It'd be much harder to port it than Ubuntu for phones. It is said that S4 will be released with Tizen, but I don't think so. They would lose many users because of the lack of apps.
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And Tizen is being rumoured for a long time but i dont think they will experiment it with 'S' series phones..Even it was said Bada will be made as a Open source but after Wave-3, i dont see any Bada OS supported phones and u know what, Cyanogenmod has been ported to Wave series phones which had Bada OS and now they are enjoying Jelly Bean in Wave phones. To be frank, Wave series phones had excellent hardwares and now with Cyanogenmod, it wud be superb..CM10
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And Tizen is being rumoured for a long time but i dont think they will experiment it with 'S' series phones..Even it was said Bada will be made as a Open source but after Wave-3, i dont see any Bada OS supported phones and u know what, Cyanogenmod has been ported to Wave series phones which had Bada OS and now they are enjoying Jelly Bean in Wave phones. To be frank, Wave series phones had excellent hardwares and now with Cyanogenmod, it wud be superb..CM10
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Agreed for Tizen. but somewhere rumored were for Tizen for Wave II & III. but unfortunately Bada OS ported to them. But yes, now what I want is can we port Bada for our device..?? Lols..head scratching..
Why Bada OS? As the specifications satisfied, we can get the ubuntu OS.. Just seen the videos.. It is amazing and they are going to use same android based kernel..
Love to see different OS in our R... Also, just read somewhere that the Tegra 2 device running windows 8 RT..
so we have good chances to get it :laugh: :good:???
amazin
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Why Bada OS? As the specifications satisfied, we can get the ubuntu OS.. Just seen the videos.. It is amazing and they are going to use same android based kernel..
Love to see different OS in our R... Also, just read somewhere that the Tegra 2 device running windows 8 RT..
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Yes buddy, just like Bada OS now runnign CM10(android) so we can run there also. But I asked from SIyah Kernel Dev for building the Kernel for us but he simply denied coz he doesn;t have time for us. BTW Selva.simple buddy is working on it. May be we can have it.:fingers-crossed:
If we will have dual booting kernel then WIndows & others ROM can be thinking to port to our device also.
Hey just now see this one -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079869
Meizu ICS ROM ported to HTC HDLeo. check out this one also.
I sent message to ubuntu team and they replay and told me that they are on thier way to announce the software but it still beta till now
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Even if we have a dual-booting kernel, we won't have Windows-based OSes. It is totally different.
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Even if we have a dual-booting kernel, we won't have Windows-based OSes. It is totally different.
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Agreed for the same buddy. But if it can be done ( as processors & if we get the source over which other did the same) for others then can't it be for us. Means I said, "dual booting" means Android in one hand & MS OS other hand.