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I know there has been a lit of talked about the Galaxy SII but..

Has anyone actually seen and held one of the unbranded euro models? I met a guy from France today who had one on SFR and it was actually a smaller looking Infuse. All I've heard so far is that the euro one is 4.5 and att is going to get a 4.3 version. Can anyone clear this up for me really quick? I don't want this to turn into a flaming or bashing or anything like that. Just wanted to know if anyone had a definitive answer because Google doesn't help one bit haha
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Tommy
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HERE:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2709&id2=2779

Ah sweet! Thanks! So what is everyone talking about with the 4.5" screen?
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Hmm.. well samsung galaxy s2 was released a few months ago here in Mexico and well they KINDA look alike... except the middle physical button on the gs2 and the battery door that makes the camera look "different" even though they are both 8mp
Of course sg2 is "faster" since the dual core but i didnt noticed any major difference on speed when working with my friends galaxy s2.... it was smaller than my Infuse, so i guess its 4.3"... and at&t should get 4.3" as well... i mean Mexican and European version are 4.3" i dont think the USA will be 4.5" probably bad info...

Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1055
Since it's a question about that phone and not the Infuse.

Cool thanks guys!
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I have held and used both the euro and us version.....what is your question?
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00mred00 said:
I have held and used both the euro and us version.....what is your question?
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Is one bigger than the other? Haha
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The Euro version is a 4.3" screen, AT&T's version will be the closest to the Euro one, only the physical button will be gone from all american versions of the phone. The Sprint and T-Mobile versions will have 4.52" screens instead of 4.3", and the T-Mobile version will have a different, 1.5Ghz dual core Qualcom CPU. The Samsung Exynos chip is limited to 21.1mbps HSPA+ speeds, while the Qualcom can hit 42mbps.

Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy, 4 more days. Better fire up the lander and head back.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255388
Discuss here please.

SGS3 just released in 28 countries.

Just saw the breaking news on android spin. Although it's not yet released in the United States, it's good to see that Samsung is sticking to their promise of releasing the SGS3 world wide this summer. I'm thinking that the T- Mobile release date in June may actually be true.
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Ya after they **** up everything.
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dave2metz said:
I'm thinking that the T- Mobile release date in June may actually be true.
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June 20, per Tmonews

subzerold said:
Ya after they **** up everything.
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Lol, that's right, after they T-Mobilelize it
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subzerold said:
Ya after they **** up everything.
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Trolololol. I don't mind the bloat as long as I can get rid of it.

aranurea said:
Trolololol. I don't mind the bloat as long as I can get rid of it.
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let's not for get it may have the screen issues because of the processor... it won't have exynos .
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iloveandroid16 said:
let's not for get it may have the screen issues because of the processor... it won't have exynos .
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You mean, the fine ladies and gentlemen at T-Mobile will release a version of the long awaited sgs3 that's TOTALLY different from what Samsung released to the wild?
What if the [email protected]#%!
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lawalty said:
You mean, the fine ladies and gentlemen at T-Mobile will release a version of the long awaited sgs3 that's TOTALLY different from what Samsung released to the wild?
What if the [email protected]#%!
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Every big USA carrier will have it then because no one is getting the exynos pocessor. All lte versions.
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Every big USA carrier will have it then because no one is getting the exynos pocessor. All lte versions.
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Personally I'm not getting the g3 because I think it's a rip off but if I were to get one. I would get the international one...
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iloveandroid16 said:
Personally I'm not getting the g3 because I think it a rip off but if I were to get one. I would get the international one...
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Btw... what really did Samsung upgrade????? The camera.......same 8 megapixel as we have... the screen.... um it uses pentile which is horrible for clarity..... the processor... US carriers will get the quadcom s4 which is still duel core... if anyone buys a g3 I think their an idiot... I'm waiting for the iPhone 5 because Sammy has disappointed me.
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S4 krait snapdragon is a15 which has 40% more per core performance than standard a9 in exynos. The gpu in the exynos is better. But the CPU is weaker. Performance will actually be the same now unlike last year Samsung galaxy s2 fiasco. All phones will have vsync on so you will be locked at 60 fps regardless of what processor you have. Development should be unpar with the exynos since the USA will have s4 and international exynos. A15 dual core has the performance slightly Better than quadcore a9. Regardless of benchmarks.
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aranurea said:
trolololol. I don't mind the bloat as long as i can get rid of it.
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so true!! +1 to that.....

Killbynature said:
S4 krait snapdragon is a15 which has 40% more per core performance than standard a9 in exynos. The gpu in the exynos is better. But the CPU is weaker. Performance will actually be the same now unlike last year Samsung galaxy s2 fiasco. All phones will have vsync on so you will be locked at 60 fps regardless of what processor you have. Development should be unpar with the exynos since the USA will have s4 and international exynos. A15 dual core has the performance slightly Better than quadcore a9. Regardless of benchmarks.
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Unless Samsung uses the Exynos 5 dual core. That thing is a beast. I prefer that rather than a quad core Exynos 4.
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iloveandroid16 said:
let's not for get it may have the screen issues because of the processor... it won't have exynos .
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Who said they won't use an Exynos 4 dual core or an Exynos 5 dual core. The late problems were only with the Tegra based processors. Exynos 5 is based off the Tegra but it is vastly different and barely even resembles it.
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aranurea said:
Who said they won't use an Exynos 4 dual core or an Exynos 5 dual core. The late problems were only with the Tegra based processors. Exynos 5 is based off the Tegra but it is vastly different and barely even resembles it.
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No way it can be based of tegra because nvidia is closed source almost everything. Tmobile will have a s4 krait and 2 gigs rams Samsung Canada has confirmed it so has tmonews. The 2 gigs ram and a15 processor. Make the phone a beast.
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Then I call bullsh*t. Why would I buy a barely upgraded phonr.?
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iloveandroid16 said:
Btw... what really did Samsung upgrade????? The camera.......same 8 megapixel as we have... the screen.... um it uses pentile which is horrible for clarity..... the processor... US carriers will get the quadcom s4 which is still duel core... if anyone buys a g3 I think their an idiot... I'm waiting for the iPhone 5 because Sammy has disappointed me.
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that's stupid. tmobile is changing their towers to include the 1900mhz spectrum, just buy the int'l version of the s3, problem solved. Cpu makes a big difference in how clear the screen is/photo quality. I had an Epic 4G Touch with Sprint (has the dual core Exynos) before coming to T-Mobile and it was a lot better than this phone in just about every way, the screen's colors were more vivid, there was less noise in photos, image quality was incredible, battery lasted longer, even images taken with the front facing camera were nicer, response times were faster. Cpu makes a big difference. Have fun with the iPhone, not that anyone cares about how Samsung disappointed you.
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Who said they won't use an Exynos 4 dual core or an Exynos 5 dual core. The late problems were only with the Tegra based processors. Exynos 5 is based off the Tegra but it is vastly different and barely even resembles it.
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because exynos cpus lack the LTE support that the qualcomm chipsets have.

Does T-Mobile plan to have LTE?
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aranurea said:
Does T-Mobile plan to have LTE?
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Eventually they will.

encrypti0n said:
that's stupid. tmobile is changing their towers to include the 1900mhz spectrum, just buy the int'l version of the s3, problem solved. Cpu makes a big difference in how clear the screen is/photo quality. I had an Epic 4G Touch with Sprint (has the dual core Exynos) before coming to T-Mobile and it was a lot better than this phone in just about every way, the screen's colors were more vivid, there was less noise in photos, image quality was incredible, battery lasted longer, even images taken with the front facing camera were nicer, response times were faster. Cpu makes a big difference. Have fun with the iPhone, not that anyone cares about how Samsung disappointed you.
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because exynos cpus lack the LTE support that the qualcomm chipsets have.
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The difference was no one seems to get this Samsung actually optimized the software around exynos. The Samsung Galaxy S2 with qualcomm processor was ported software. Not as well optimized as the exynos. Samsung was in a rush to get the phone released in the states. Samsung knowing LTE is the big thing in the USA. Will optimize both phones equally now. Especially if the phones are being released so closely towards each other. Even the developers in the Samsung Galaxy s3 forum are saying that the 2 gig krait cpu is the better phone. A9 dual core to a9 quad core is not much of an improvement. Krait actually is and it keeps up with the best with less cores. Until true a15 cores come out.
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Why different us versions

Why are there crappier us modified phones..... can't they just be all the same
Like the s3 us sucks compared to the s3 international
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grassyloki said:
Why are there crappier us modified phones..... can't they just be all the same
Like the s3 us sucks compared to the s3 international
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That's not true.
S4 is only slightly slower than Tegra 3 and it has double the RAM and LTE. Wtf how does it suck compared to international
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Quad core prosessor. More powerful GPU
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grassyloki said:
Quad core prosessor. More powerful GPU
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Quad-core A9 vs Dual-core A9/A15. Not an automatic loss, bud. Do some research.

upichie said:
Quad-core A9 vs Dual-core A9/A15. Not an automatic loss, bud. Do some research.
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Also like I said before, double the RAM.
And average joes don't care about CPU and GPU. Biggest factor is data and in that US versions wins with LTE
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The Korean S3 is just a beast though, it has the quad A9 cores, better GPU wolfston DAC, the 2GB's of ram and LTE (not that it will work in North America). If you can live with 3G though... the Korean S3 is absolutely incredible. Just expect the most horrendous battery life.

Skrandy Swag said:
The Korean S3 is just a beast though, it has the quad A9 cores, better GPU wolfston DAC, the 2GB's of ram and LTE (not that it will work in North America). If you can live with 3G though... the Korean S3 is absolutely incredible. Just expect the most horrendous battery life.
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Quad core is not so great as it seems.
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They are different because the quad core chip used in the international version does not support LTE or HSPA +42.

So the GS4 wont have an Exynos 5?

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/144778-atom-vs-cortex-a15-vs-krait-vs-tegra-3-which-mobile-cpu-is-the-most-power-efficient
Just been reading this, are we expecting too much from the GS4 to have this chip in it?

slannmage said:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-which-mobile-cpu-is-the-most-power-efficient
Just been reading this, are we expecting too much from the GS4 to have this chip in it?
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Samsung does a great job keeping secrets. Tomorrow we will know for sure
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I'm looking forward to the news about the S4 tomorrow. It's only my 2nd chance at an android phone. The S3 is sweet so far, I see it everyday as my gf has the phone.
I think samsung is going to surprise everyone tomorrow or I will just go with the the Note 2 lol
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If it's a snapdragon and an adreno 320 then it's already failed because there are loads of phones like that.
They surely wouldn't advertise the octa chip if it wasn't going in the GS4. However the A7 mixed with the A15 seems like a little bit of a cheat, I bet it uses the A7 95% of the time or the A15 cores are heavily throttled because it looks like they drain battery like mad, especially in a smart phone.

slannmage said:
If it's a snapdragon and an adreno 320 then it's already failed because there are loads of phones like that.
They surely wouldn't advertise the octa chip if it wasn't going in the GS4. However the A7 mixed with the A15 seems like a little bit of a cheat, I bet it uses the A7 95% of the time or the A15 cores are heavily throttled because it looks like they drain battery like mad, especially in a smart phone.
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Hey its a huge step up from my current phone the HTC ThunderBolt. I just don't want to pay more than 200 for it though
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ShapesBlue said:
Hey its a huge step up from my current phone the HTC ThunderBolt. I just don't want to pay more than 200 for it though
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Well With the carriers thinking about removing the subsadised phones that may be cheap coming real soon.

zelendel said:
Well With the carriers thinking about removing the subsadised phones that may be cheap coming real soon.
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I'm hoping so. My upgrade is due late June/July.
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The international version of the S4 will have the 1.6GHz octa-core exynos processor and the US version will have a 1.9GHz quad-core Snapdragon processor
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itzkpanda said:
The international version of the S4 will have the 1.6GHz octa-core exynos processor and the US version will have a 1.9GHz quad-core Snapdragon processor
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No surprise that they will have different processors.
Normally the USA tends to get the lesser or not the best available
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ShapesBlue said:
No surprise that they will have different processors.
Normally the USA tends to get the lesser or not the best available
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Yeah :l
1.9GHz quad isn't bad, but when comparing it to the octa-core, it feels like we're being left out. And i believe the exynos octa-core is supposed to be substantially more battery efficient(?)
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itzkpanda said:
Yeah :l
1.9GHz quad isn't bad, but when comparing it to the octa-core, it feels like we're being left out. And i believe the exynos octa-core is supposed to be substantially more battery efficient(?)
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Haven't done my research on that. Sounds about right
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I'm not gonna bother upgrading, both HTC and Samsung aren't exciting, was just disappointed between them.
Exynos = 3G only
Snapdragon s4 pro = LTE
Only LTE isn't coming out till the end of the year in this region.......... wtf were they thinking?
The HTC One is another no micro sd, no removable battery, ****ty camera, sense mess of a boring phone. People say how good it looks........ looks like any other boring HTC phone to me, just like the GS4 looks like another boring Samsung GS3 variant.

Singapore Galaxy S4 [Discussion, News, Help]

Saw these threads for other countries so I figured Singapore could use one. Same as other threads, this is for discussion and reviews etc of the S4, network related topics can be discussed too.
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May 4 Launch: http://asia.cnet.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-set-for-may-4-launch-in-singapore-62221141.htm
Preorder starts 17 April midnight for all 3 telcos: http://techielobang.com/blog/2013/0...alaxy-s4-starts-from-17th-april-in-singapore/

1337RYoN said:
Saw these threads for other countries so I figured Singapore could use one. Same as other threads, this is for discussion and reviews etc of the S4, network related topics can be discussed too.
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Here is what I know so far.
GALAXY S4 is rumored to be released in May for Sinkies.
It will definitely be officially priced at $998, its standard for high-end phones here.
All telcos will definitely get. StinkTel, Laghub & MaiOne.
And it's definitely the I9505 without question

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What makes a thread "official"?
Anyway yeah I'm intending to get the s4 to upgrade from my s2.
The bundled data for LTE plans is horrible. I'm getting 12gb free a month now on my 3G plan.
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What makes a thread "official"?
Anyway yeah I'm intending to get the s4 to upgrade from my s2.
The bundled data for LTE plans is horrible. I'm getting 12gb free a month now on my 3G plan.
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Haha that makes sense. Changed the title. Also planning to upgrade to S4 from my Arc S
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You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg

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You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
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TBH I don't really trust that. It's been circulating for ages and it states that some countries without LTE will be getting the snapdragon version, which doesn't really make much sense IMO
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Livebyte said:
Here is what I know so far.
GALAXY S4 is rumored to be released in May for Sinkies.
It will definitely be officially priced at $998, its standard for high-end phones here.
All telcos will definitely get. StinkTel, Laghub & MaiOne.
And it's definitely the I9505 without question
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Lol, stinktel, laghub and maione. XD
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southernknight said:
Lol, stinktel, laghub and maione. XD
I am the son of a potato
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Lol, stinktel, laghub and maione. XD
I am the son of a potato
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funny name it has
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Lol, stinktel, laghub and maione. XD
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Curious to know which telco livebyte uses...
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1337RYoN said:
Curious to know which telco livebyte uses...
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why need to know? All teleco stinks, with only 2GB data per month given out...
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hisname said:
why need to know? All teleco stinks, with only 2GB data per month given out...
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And I suppose there is only one plan available per telco?
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1337RYoN said:
And I suppose there is only one plan available per telco?
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no
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1337RYoN said:
TBH I don't really trust that. It's been circulating for ages and it states that some countries without LTE will be getting the snapdragon version, which doesn't really make much sense IMO
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Yeah that's actually true . only time will tell mate
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Apparently Singapore will only be getting the snapdragon 600 version. I was kinda disappointed as I really wanted to try the Exynos octa. Do you guys think S600 is good enough to compare with the Exynos? I'm planning to get S4 around June. I really can't decide whether I should wait for something like Nexus 5 in July or just get s4. Advice?
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1337RYoN said:
Apparently Singapore will only be getting the snapdragon 600 version. I was kinda disappointed as I really wanted to try the Exynos octa. Do you guys think S600 is good enough to compare with the Exynos? I'm planning to get S4 around June. I really can't decide whether I should wait for something like Nexus 5 in July or just get s4. Advice?
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you do know that exynos will have little support here do you? Actually in real world usage, the snapdragon version is on par with the exynos version.
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I want to see battery life reports on Exynos octa before I decide. If the battery on I9500 beats I9505 by at least 25%, I'll be getting I9500.
And yes, I do know that I9500 will have less dev support but it'll still have plenty of ROMs and mods. At least, I hope so.
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1337RYoN said:
I want to see battery life reports on Exynos octa before I decide. If the battery on I9500 beats I9505 by at least 25%, I'll be getting I9500.
And yes, I do know that I9500 will have less dev support but it'll still have plenty of ROMs and mods. At least, I hope so.
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yea, suit yourselfexynos variant doesn't have 4G only the Korean(exynos) version has 4G
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1337RYoN said:
I want to see battery life reports on Exynos octa before I decide. If the battery on I9500 beats I9505 by at least 25%, I'll be getting I9500.
And yes, I do know that I9500 will have less dev support but it'll still have plenty of ROMs and mods. At least, I hope so.
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25% diff in battery life is too big on a same model of phone. Maybe 5-10% difference favoring the Exynos I think.
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I really presumed that we are going to get I9505 since most Asian countries are getting I9500, sadly that's not the case. Here is a very interesting read by AndreiLux: Exynos Octa and why you need to stop the drama about the 8 cores. I'm seriously reconsidering not to buy S4 right now, probably at least till reliable benchmarks and battery test are being populated to determine how much they differ. But well, there is however the LTE factor that may change my mind. Below is a post quoted from GT-I9500 vs GT-I9505...Differences are huge! by SlimJ87D.
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But again, I've bought into the whole LTE thing because again LTE is now EVERYWHERE I travel to and live. So when I'm surfing the web or tethering for my work laptop, I'll see a much larger increase in internet speeds than I do with the speeds that are similar to my i9300.
I believe my i9300 got around 4.5 mbps at it's best while my GF's SGH-i747 got around 17 mbps, this is in OC, CA USA. This is a HUGE difference.
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Evidently, speed test for 3G HSPA+ vs 4G LTE.