Ive been reading up on the current root methods and all of the subsequent issues that comes along with each method and need some clarification. The desired result that im looking for is to have root with cwm recovery, to not trip the counter, and not have any boot issues, partition corruption issues, nandroid backup issues, or anything else...Whats the correct procedures should i take?
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Ive been reading up on the current root methods and all of the subsequent issues that comes along with each method and need some clarification. The desired result that im looking for is to have root with cwm recovery, to not trip the counter, and not have any boot issues, partition corruption issues, nandroid backup issues, or anything else..
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From all the threads, there is no such method... The root-injected method is reported to cause severe problems, the CWM method increases the counter. But CWM never caused any problems here, neither with the original firmware not after updating with Kies to LH2.
BUT: TriangleAway is available which sucessfully reset the counter on my N8000 to zero. Just strictly follow the instructions.
The counter thing is pretty much unavoidable if you want to play it safe (ie, not turning your note 10.1 into a paper weight). It's Samsung trying to catch people on warranty claims, but as already noted there are ways to reset it. Not sure about the Note 10.1, but I know the GS3 still reads MODIFIED (on the stock rom) even after using TriangleAway. Only way to get rid of that is to return it to a stock rom.
If you want root access though there's not much choice. Use method 2. I personally wouldn't trust any other method. Odin and CWM are your friends!
I've rooted my tablet and the superSU won't update can anyone help!?
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Great site and forum you guys have here. I've been lurking in the background for about a month now since converting to Android from Crackberry, studying as much as possible about rooting my new Skyrocket.
I've narrowed down the method that I'll be using shortly to the 3 subject options, and was just wondering, what you recommend and why? I've also watched videos on each, and they all seem like they work and I can handle the task. But I want to avoid tripping the flash counter or getting myself in other more complicated trouble that I'd need your help with.
My plan is to root, flash CWM, do a Nandroid backup, then just freeze some things up using Titanium Backup to start. I think I said that right. Maybe not. But that's the plan for now, without new ROMs or kernels. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, and I apologize for the rookie questions. Again, great forum.
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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pls4ms said:
Great site and forum you guys have here. I've been lurking in the background for about a month now since converting to Android from Crackberry, studying as much as possible about rooting my new Skyrocket.
I've narrowed down the method that I'll be using shortly to the 3 subject options, and was just wondering, what you recommend and why? I've also watched videos on each, and they all seem like they work and I can handle the task. But I want to avoid tripping the flash counter or getting myself in other more complicated trouble that I'd need your help with.
My plan is to root, flash CWM, do a Nandroid backup, then just freeze some things up using Titanium Backup to start. I think I said that right. Maybe not. But that's the plan for now, without new ROMs or kernels. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, and I apologize for the rookie questions. Again, great forum.
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I'm no expert but when I updated from 2.3.5 to 2.3.6 using S.O.C was no longer an option. I had to use the all power ODIN. link
But I suggest reading, googling, and rereading steps until you're confident of what to do without guessing if you're doing it right or not.
BTW, don't discount ROMs, they will make you love your phone more than you thought possible. And with the initial Nandroid bup you can always revert...
Good luck...
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cdshepherd said:
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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This^^^^ I use odin and only odin
After a few days of research and trying to figure out how not to trip the flash counter, this is the best way. Huge thumbs up for the suggestion!
Wow. That is really great information. Thank you! I had written off the Odin method, as it seemed a little complicated for a rookie like myself -- hence why it wasn't included in the subject options.
But after reading what you had to say, it makes complete sense. The Odin method is the only way to make a complete backup (using CWM) of my truly unrooted device, where the other methods, the mirror (backup) would be of a rooted device so a restore back to stock would be more difficult. Correct?
I just read all 20 pages of the link you supplied, and it seems I've got a pretty good understanding of what to do and what not to do. Will give it a whirl today and let you know. By the way, someone posted a video which talks about how the superuser.zip file is not necessary -- this is not true if you aren't putting on a new ROM. Which I am not. Just a heads up for anyone else out there looking at it. Thanks again man, you nailed it.
cdshepherd said:
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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A restore to stock wouldn't necessarily be any more complicated because we have odin files for that too. But it will trip your counter. Sometimes tripping the counter is unavoidable, I pretend like mine doesn't even exist. Let us know if you need any help
Remember to make the nandroid backup of stock unrooted before you flash the superuser.zip.
When you do flash the superuser zip, it might throw up an error and not flash, this is ok, happens to me everytime, just keep trying to install it and eventually she will take:thumbup:
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Perfect success! Couldn't have gone any better. From the driver installs, to the Odin launch, CWM backup, and finally the SU flash -- each step was flawless. It took 3 tries on the Superuser.zip file before it installed without errors, which was expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I just updated Superuser to the latest version, but now I'm seeing that Busybox seems to be an important add-on now that I'm rooted for some apps to work properly. Agreed? If so, is the popular version on Play the one to download?
Also, whats the best way for me to send the backup I just made from my phone to computer as you mentioned? Where is it located on phone? Thanks again. You've been a huge help, and I'm stoked to be part of the club -- maybe just a junior member still, but learning more each day.
cdshepherd said:
A restore to stock wouldn't necessarily be any more complicated because we have odin files for that too. But it will trip your counter. Sometimes tripping the counter is unavoidable, I pretend like mine doesn't even exist. Let us know if you need any help
Remember to make the nandroid backup of stock unrooted before you flash the superuser.zip.
When you do flash the superuser zip, it might throw up an error and not flash, this is ok, happens to me everytime, just keep trying to install it and eventually she will take:thumbup:
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The cwm backup will probably be on you external SD under clockworkmod>backup. If not on external use internal. Just mount USB storage on your computer. After you get the stock backup off your SD , boot back into recovery and make a backup of your rooted stock firmware if you already haven't. You want to always have atleast one nandroid on your SD in case boo boo's occur.
As for the busy box thing I'm not exactly sure. All I can say on that is if any app request you to update it just allow it to. Maybe try the market app you mentioned. I'm not entirely too sure. Also maybe consider flashing a rom. You'll have that rooted backup on your SD you can restore whenever you'd like.
Glad everything went well for you. That's a good example of what reading before attempting does. Good job
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Thanks again for the help and props. More success yesterday; moved the full stock ROM (unrooted) Nandroid to my computer, and then made another Nandroid of my rooted stock ROM. That too I put on the computer, but also left a copy my SD card.
Installed Titanium Backup Pro, and am now studying up on which .APK files I can safely freeze. Found a spreadsheet from the SG2 forum, and I'm guessing it's applicable for our device. Would post the link, but I'm not allowed to yet.
Lastly, I picked up the Nexus 2100 mah battery for which I'll be installing shortly as well. Starting to get more tuned up now, but you are right, once all this is complete I'll look at some custom ROM's as well. I guess freezing all of these files wouldn't really be necessary if I put on a new ROM anyway. Oh well. Baby steps.
samsung infuse
bought rooted Samsung infuse, but can not get my contacts.
At&t phone.
infuseal said:
bought rooted Samsung infuse, but can not get my contacts.
At&t phone.
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You just brought a year old thread back to life and your talking about an infuse which has nothing to do with the skyrocket. Search on the infuse topics.
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What's up everyone. I'm coming from an iPhone and am new to rooting vs jail breaking. I've been reading tons of threads to make sure I follow the directions to a "T" so I don't end up with a brick. I think I'm goo old to go but have two questions. 1 - do I need to backup my imei info?? I saw some posts about people that didn't and ran into issues. If so how do I do it. 2 - can I install twrp vs cwm which is detailed in step 3 of the root guide?? Would I just follow the instructions on how to install twrp vs cwm??
Is there anything else I need to do or didn't mention when I root the phone?? I'm interested in installing cm10 from what I've read.
Thanks!!
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What's up everyone. I'm coming from an iPhone and am new to rooting vs jail breaking. I've been reading tons of threads to make sure I follow the directions to a "T" so I don't end up with a brick. I think I'm goo old to go but have two questions. 1 - do I need to backup my imei info?? I saw some posts about people that didn't and ran into issues. If so how do I do it. 2 - can I install twrp vs cwm which is detailed in step 3 of the root guide?? Would I just follow the instructions on how to install twrp vs cwm??
Is there anything else I need to do or didn't mention when I root the phone?? I'm interested in installing cm10 from what I've read.
Thanks!!
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1. If you're planning on installing CM10, BACKUP YOUR IMEI! Cannot be stressed enough, as there's something with the Kexec method or in the flashing of CM that can possibly cause IMEI corruption.
2. TWRP and CWM are just two different recoveries, they both (generally) serve the same purpose, which is backup/restore/flash/etc. You can flash them both from MMMEFF's Ez-Recovery which is on the market, and it's free and only requires the push of a button. Unless the root guide explicitly says (insert recovery here) is required, either one can be used.
IMEI Backup/Restore (if corrupt): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791291&page=4
IMEI Repair (if you didn't back up, or if it reads 0): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802024
Thanks!! I was going to use the root method in this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
From what I have been reading that is the best method, is there any other one??
The main reason I was going to use CM10 was because I like the theme switcher option. Since that ROM has the potential IMEI problem are there any other ROMs that have a theme switcher?? I have used AOKP, does that also have the IMEI issue??
mpetruzz said:
Thanks!! I was going to use the root method in this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
From what I have been reading that is the best method, is there any other one??
The main reason I was going to use CM10 was because I like the theme switcher option. Since that ROM has the potential IMEI problem are there any other ROMs that have a theme switcher?? I have used AOKP, does that also have the IMEI issue??
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CM10 is really the only ROM available right now for VZW's GS3. The bootloader is still locked/encrypted, so we can't load up custom ROMs. The ones a majority of the community (or so I believe) are stock. I've been following Bean's for awhile, and flashed it yesterday. Haven't had any problems with it so far. Stock ROM's can be themed, except they aren't as expansive a choice as the CM Theme Switcher. Either way, just know how to backup your IMEI in-case it does happen, better safe than sorry.
As for your root method, I used root66. However, that method requires downloading a 800mb file and flashing it via odin. The one that just came out about a week doesn't require downloading any massive files though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342
Hey guys. Currently ruling this up on my S3.
I am in the market for a tablet...currently I have the transformer infinity. The sluggishness of the tablet really gets to me...so I was looking into this particular one.
I'm curious about warranty void issues. My Asus has to be unlocked which completely voids the warranty forever to install any type of custom ROM. Is that the case with this one? I know my S3 can be re locked and stock firmware flashed via Odin in case of the warranty claims.
Also performance wise...any sluggishness or anything? Thanks guys!
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All devices if rooted will lose its warranty as far as uprooting it I think it can be done but not sure there are some threads on that but you only root it if you are not happy with the original rom or are a developer the Samsung original rom is pretty good and with jb update even better unlike the same prime so you won't need to root ir
Its fairly easy to unroot and return to stock, just like your S3...
Sluggishness, with 2gb of ram?!!
Are you serious, this thing flies... With the new JB release it is blazingly quick... No sluggishness at all, remember it is made to run more than one app at a time side by side.
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but you only root it if you are not happy with the original rom or are a developer the Samsung original rom is pretty good and with jb update even better unlike the same prime so you won't need to root ir
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Sorry to say, but that is nonsense... I use the original JB 4.1.1 rom and I rooted my device although I have no intention to install a custom rom.
But there is a significant set of apps which require root as the implement functions which need root.
- Titanium backup (to make a real complete backup of the device)
- Renzhi safe/LUKS Manager or EFS (to be able to mount encypted volumes into the file system and use them as "normal subdirs")
- AdFree (to modify the host file in the system partition to easily block unwanted ad sites on system level)
- BetterBatteryStats (to get proper usage stats)
and so on.
So there are many reasons to root the device.
As the original rom can be reapplied easily via Odin, I do not see the warranty problem. And in Germany, I doubt that a warranty case can be denied if there is a hardware failure. Of course, if you brick the device during rooting, that's bad luck.
yes I agree if you only root and use the stock rom it does not do any harm, but I still prefer not to do that because I think again correct me if I am wrong I will end up losing all my apps and data if I unroot or install another rom
Consider yourself corrected...
Depends upon a few things... Unrooting will not get rid of your apps and settings... It simply removes the files that allow it to be rooted. And if you simply root your stock rom it's easy to unroot (through su app to then reflash the stock recovery, nothing of which will delete anything you've done to your tab.
ROMs on the other hand are a whole different ballgame.... Though I have found that using the same rom version (jb - jb) doesn't always reset back everything either...
Hi all...
OK, so I've rooted and ROMed a few phones in the past, and I generally know what I'm doing. However, I think I may have gotten a little bit overconfident this time and not done enough research...
I had a friend give me one of these phones and I decided that before making it my daily driver, I was going to install CM11. The phone was given to me unrooted with the stock 4.3 ROM. So, I found a guide to root the 4.3 version of the phone w/o triggering the warranty killbit, and that all went well. Once rooted, I decided to use Clockwork ROM Manager to throw CM11 on it. I installed CM and, without giving it a second thought, told it to flash the latest CM recovery (apparently my root method had come with TWRP). When I rebooted, I expected to see the nice recovery screen I was used to, but instead I was informed that I needed to take my phone to the nearest Verizon store and have them restore it (no thanks). I can, however, still get in to the Odin downloader, but this is uncharted territory for me. Assuming everything is OK with my firmware, what is the best/fastest way to recover from this point? I think I understand how Odin works, but I don't know much about it. Can I use Odin to flash the latest TWRP and fix it that way? Would it be better to try and flash completely back to stock and start over? If I'm forced to use Odin anyway, can I just flash CM11 from there? I have no idea what to do...
I would greatly appreciate any guidance anyone of you ROM wizards is willing to part with...
Fix with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
Then read all of this, no AOSP on 4.3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.
rirawin said:
I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.
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Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.
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Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.
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Thanks, so no issues with rooting with latest firmware?.
http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.
rirawin said:
http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.
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I love how that guide says all variants and then makes no mention of the P907. I would love to be able to use a custom recovery. Unless the P907 falls under the LTE moniker even though the model number is different?
Yes, TWRP works with P900
I went through this a week ago (with some help) and once I figured out how to get TWRP 2.8 to flash using Odin the process of rooting and installing a custom rom was easy. There is a thread a little lower on this forum that goes through the process.
Keith
do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?
rirawin said:
do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?
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I can't post a link but the thread is in this forum. I have not unrooted but there are several threads that mention going back to stock.
Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/
okay
rirawin said:
Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/
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I do not have enough posts to link an email. About three weeks ago I had the same question. The thread is in this forum on page 3, 5 or so messages down. I am the op, stedmakr. Gastrom answered the thread, provided a link and helped me root the p900 and install his rom (its excellent). Sorry I can't post links. Page 3 of this forum.
Keith
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...reliable-root-method-p900-build-bnk1-t2986600
I still don't quite understand, I just like to root to get sd card fix
Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Peri Noid said:
Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Nope, no way to avoid Knox trip.
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can anyone confirm please, is this the method to root:
https://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
So after I done that, I update su user and then I install sdfix is that right?.
anyone please?
Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.
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Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.
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Well said mate! Well said.
If someone's gonna root their tablet, especially one of this caliber & price point. Then they should know how to recover it back to stock on their own. Concerning the tripping of Knox, who cares! Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM. That topic has been discussed to death in another thread. If your going to root this thing, then root it and live on! LoL ?
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Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM.
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Not here in Poland...