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Hello Friends.
I am new to the world of Android and hence have a couple of general queries with regards to rooting.
When I have garnered sufficient knowledge and understanding, I will post in the appropriate section corresponding to my device.
I am vaguely aware of rooting but do not know a bit on how to proceed. Hence, I am here to learn from you all.
I have few basic understandings, please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
My queries are -
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
I beg every member to forgive my naivety and plead for your patience. I am not ashamed to admit I am a proverbial "noob".
I await your informative responses. Thank you all in advance.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends.
I am new to the world of Android and hence have a couple of general queries with regards to rooting.
When I have garnered sufficient knowledge and understanding, I will post in the appropriate section corresponding to my device.
I am vaguely aware of rooting but do not know a bit on how to proceed. Hence, I am here to learn from you all.
I have few basic understandings, please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
My queries are -
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
I beg every member to forgive my naivety and plead for your patience. I am not ashamed to admit I am a proverbial "noob".
I await your informative responses. Thank you all in advance.
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1) No. First root, then backup, then remove bloatware
2) Its a stock ROM (that comes with the phone) with root access
3) Yes u can receive official updates. Also called OTAs. (Over the Air)
Clarification,
I understand the usefulness of back ups, however, I don't keep them... call me dangerous, yes I have soft bricked my phone at work once... I have learned a few tricks along the way for getting out of a bind.
Also most custom ROMs are rooted, ie have su binaries installed and superuser app. They will usually produce a pure stock ROM in order to be "un-rooted."
The OTA question, though, is a trick question. No you cannot receive a pushed OTA if you are on a custom ROM. You may be able to if you were stock rooted. Realistically, you don't want to take an OTA, as it will likely break your root and you may be stuck until a new exploit is found. You will want to un-root to a version with a known root exploit.
You are on the right track and are smart for doing your research before you dive in. Be sure you are comfortable with the procedure and know your options and possible errors.
I am curious to know your device, and hear back with your progress!
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YLNdroid said:
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
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I don't know if you can, but it is reversible.
YLNdroid said:
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
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Without root, you usually can't backup everything, certainly not the complete ROM.
YLNdroid said:
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
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Yes, (there might be a difference with HTC devices see 'S-Off', i don't own a htc)
YLNdroid said:
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
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The basics are usually the same, get the superuser binary and a management app on your device and make sure they are executable and have the right permissions. HOW they get there is what differs.
YLNdroid said:
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
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Yes
YLNdroid said:
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
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No, backup the stock ROM first, if you screw up and remove too much or the wrong thing, you have something to go back to.
After you are done removing bloatware, you can backup again. Transfer the backups off your phone on your computer if they take too much space.
YLNdroid said:
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
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Its the ROM that came with the device, with the only difference that it has already been rooted (su binary and app added).
YLNdroid said:
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
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If you just root your device, yes.
Though you will mostlikely loose your root after you updated and have to root again.
Friends, thank you for your responses. Presently, I am pressed for time. Once university obligations have been fulfilled, I will steadily commence with my humble research and come back with eventual queries.
imheroldman said:
I am curious to know your device, and hear back with your progress!
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imheroldman, an uncle of mine gifted me a Samsung Galaxy Note during Easter.
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
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It most definitely never hurts to back up your roms as I've learned the hard way, cool tip, if you're keeping more than one backup make sure you liable them so as to make them distinguishable for future reference.
Removing bloatware is pretty easy, a lot of rooms out there even do it for you and now with the aroma installers a lot of the devs are using it makes it pretty cut and dry picking and choosing what you want installed or don't.
I wish you luck in your endeavors, its pretty awesome all the work these guys have done to make things way easy for beginners like us. Just be patient and read EVERYTHING I can't stress that enough, do your research if you encounter problems before you contact the dev because 9 times out of 10 someone else is having or had the problem before
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Venomusdragon said:
It most definitely never hurts to back up your roms as I've learned the hard way, cool tip, if you're keeping more than one backup make sure you liable them so as to make them distinguishable for future reference.
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Thank you Venomusdragon, I will definitely label my backups so that I can distinguish between them if and when the need arises to refer to the said backups.
I am awaiting further responses from the veteran members as well.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
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Friends, I eagerly await your expertise.
I sincerely apologise if I have put off any of you due to my paramount stupidity and naivety.
With utmost humility, I am keen on getting started with the first step - Rooting.
A humble request to the Superiors.
Could this thread be moved to the Android Q&A category of the Android Development and Hacking sub-forum, please?
Try searching in youtube for a more detailed explanation like i have
For a galaxy note,I believe ODIN is the best rooting tool.
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Hello Friends, please pardon my daft queries below.
I am aware that a device is required to be rooted in order to flash a custom firmware/ROM. Is it the same with a stock firmware/ROM?
Do I need to root the current stock firmware before I flash another stock firmware of my choice?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. :silly:
Thank you for your patience.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, please pardon my daft queries below.
I am aware that a device is required to be rooted in order to flash a custom firmware/ROM. Is it the same with a stock firmware/ROM?
Do I need to root the current stock firmware before I flash another stock firmware of my choice?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. :silly:
Thank you for your patience.
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Custom firmware is not the same as stock firmware. Stock firmware is 'official' update and doesn't need rooting.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Custom firmware is not the same as stock firmware. Stock firmware is 'official' update and doesn't need rooting.
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Thank you for your apt response Allanitomwesh.
Your welcome.
Only consider rooting for stock firmware if it isn't available in your country.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Only consider rooting for stock firmware if it isn't available in your country.
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Allanitomwesh, could you kindly explain or describe a relevant scenario?
Thank you once again.
YLNdroid said:
Allanitomwesh, could you kindly explain or describe a relevant scenario?
Thank you once again.
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So you have an android phone. It is locked to your carrier. Google releases a new version of android,and the phone manufacturer makes a new firmware (new android + factory skin like say sense or touchwiz)
So,if your phone was unlocked you'd get firmware right away,but instead,the manufacturer is told by the carrier that the new android isn't good for their customers (interferes with bloatware or messes with internet,something like that) so you and everyone with your phone on that network gets skipped when the update rolls out. But you really want that new android...
That's when rooting your phone and flashing stock makes sense. Otherwise, custom roms usually have more features.
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Allanitomwesh said:
So you have an android phone. It is locked to your carrier. Google releases a new version of android,and the phone manufacturer makes a new firmware (new android + factory skin like say sense or touchwiz)
So,if your phone was unlocked you'd get firmware right away,but instead,the manufacturer is told by the carrier that the new android isn't good for their customers (interferes with bloatware or messes with internet,something like that) so you and everyone with your phone on that network gets skipped when the update rolls out. But you really want that new android...
That's when rooting your phone and flashing stock makes sense. Otherwise, custom roms usually have more features.
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Allanitomwesh, thank you very much for the explanation.
I suppose I need not worry as my device is the International version of the Samsung Galaxy Note [GT-N7000] and was sim free. :silly:
Hi guys,
I've the N8000 which cost me a fortune, still with the custom rom (4.1.1) but already rooted (with exynos apk exploit). I'm thinking to go forward with a CM10.1 rom, but I'm afraid. Can you answer to he following:
a) Does actual CM10.1 works with no troubles? Is S-Pen ok? And the phone works without any problems?
b) Where can I get the software and a tutorial to do so?
c) Multi windows and the bottom bar are working well on CM10.1.
Thank you in advance for your help. :good:
I was thinking the same a few hours ago and I found this:
With latest Android 4.2.2 you can expect much more stability and faster performance from your already-darn-fast tablet. Of course, you will lose any Samsung built-in features like multi-window, Smart Stay, and stuff like that so this isn’t for those of you who need that on a daily basis.
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from here: rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-10-1-roms/android-4-2-2-rom-root-for-galaxy-note-10-1-aokp
Hope this helps since the info in the forum was TLR for you.
Definitus said:
Hi guys,
I've the N8000 which cost me a fortune, still with the custom rom (4.1.1) but already rooted (with exynos apk exploit). I'm thinking to go forward with a CM10.1 rom, but I'm afraid. Can you answer to he following:
a) Does actual CM10.1 works with no troubles? Is S-Pen ok? And the phone works without any problems?
b) Where can I get the software and a tutorial to do so?
c) Multi windows and the bottom bar are working well on CM10.1.
Thank you in advance for your help. :good:
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There are threads in the forum here that can answer all of your listed CM10.1 questions. You are probably going to have to read some long threads.
Truthfully in order to determine if you should go to a CM rom you need to do a self assessment.
What do you want to do on your tablet?
What do you currently do on your tablet?
Do you use the Samsung (s-pen) specific apps a lot currently?
Do you rely on Samsung specific features (such as multi window) a lot?
The s-pen works fine in CM10.1, but the samsung specific apps do not. CM10 doesn't have the samsung touchwiz framework.
You don't need to answer the questions above for me. They're self discovery questions anyway. If you do happen to answer yes to either of the last 2 questions then CM10 isn't going to be for you.
Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
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KhaldounCG said:
Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
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The only answer I can give you is: Take a look in the developers forum. If you see something you like, try it. Maybe go for a rom with a stock (Samsung/TouchWiz) look, since that's what you're used to from the stock ROM. Actually, I'd start off by rooting your phone(you've already done that, since you've flashed a lot of ROMs), and remove all the bloatware you never use from stock ROM. Maybe replace a few of the stock apps with better alternatives. This makes the phone faster, and frees up memory.
You can also freeze apps, if you're not comfortable with removing them from the stock ROM. This thread discusses which apps are safe to freeze/remove. The OP links to this document showing a spreadsheet of apps that are safe/not safe to freeze/remove.
If you're not familiar with the term "freezing apps", you should do a forum search(or just Google) Titanium Backup. It's a feature LOADED (you guessed it...) backup-app, which allows you to freeze apps if you don't want to uninstall them completely. In short, it "disables" the app, removing it from the drawer, but keeping it installed. You can easily unfreeze the apps if you need them to work for you again.
Hope this helped you on you way. The world of custom ROMs is huge, so you're guaranteed to find somehing you like.
Regards,
Kombian
KhaldounCG said:
Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
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im sure that a dev will port the s4 touchwiz rom to the s3 soon. Just be patient.
4.2.2 for s3 (S4 original framework) doubts
Kombian said:
The only answer I can give you is: Take a look in the developers forum. If you see something you like, try it. Maybe go for a rom with a stock (Samsung/TouchWiz) look, since that's what you're used to from the stock ROM. Actually, I'd start off by rooting your phone(you've already done that, since you've flashed a lot of ROMs), and remove all the bloatware you never use from stock ROM. Maybe replace a few of the stock apps with better alternatives. This makes the phone faster, and frees up memory.
You can also freeze apps, if you're not comfortable with removing them from the stock ROM. This thread discusses which apps are safe to freeze/remove. The OP links to this document showing a spreadsheet of apps that are safe/not safe to freeze/remove.
If you're not familiar with the term "freezing apps", you should do a forum search(or just Google) Titanium Backup. It's a feature LOADED (you guessed it...) backup-app, which allows you to freeze apps if you don't want to uninstall them completely. In short, it "disables" the app, removing it from the drawer, but keeping it installed. You can easily unfreeze the apps if you need them to work for you again.
Hope this helped you on you way. The world of custom ROMs is huge, so you're guaranteed to find somehing you like.
Regards,
Kombian
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Thanks a lot for all the information that you've shared with me, I am still not familiar with many things in rooting which I might need your help with that.
The first thing, what you guys mean by Stock Rom? does it mean the original android framework that was not modified yet?
2nd: how to remove all the bloatware? and what do you mean by bloatware?
3rd: is it bad for the handset to be flashed again and again with many different ROMs? I always follow the steps which the developers mention in flashing any new ROM, so is there any right ways to do that without damaging my phone?
for now these are all the doubts that I have about rooting, but I might come up with many points in the future,
I hope you guys can help me in getting more knowledge about it, and thanks a lot for your precious time that you are giving me
Thanks again
KhaldounCG said:
Thanks a lot for all the information that you've shared with me, I am still not familiar with many things in rooting which I might need your help with that.
for now these are all the doubts that I have about rooting, but I might come up with many points in the future,
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For all doubts you have now and may have in the future, please follow the first rule of XDA:
"Search before asking"
And may I suggest you read through many of the fine guides and tutorials here on this forum. Look up the stickies in the section for ur device too.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
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Since Im a complete newbie I wanted to ask a few questions before doing anything stupid.
1. I noticed people are already posting new ROMs and kernels. Do I need them? I mean, I like the stock and everything but there are a few things I can't do. Why do YOU root and change ROMs?
2. I found a lot of kernels, and I understood that it can improve my performance and battery life. I would very much like to improve my battery life. The thing is, I don't know how. I do know that people are UVing and OCing their CPU, etc but what can a noob do who is not only a noob but also just bought a phone that the rooting thing is new to it. So no everything is fully developed, optimized and ready to go in a few clicks. Do I still need to wait a couple more weeks to change my kernel? I always read kernel threads and their changelogs but it is like jibarish to me. I can't even decide which one to pick.
3. I would really like to change my icons in the quick settings panel. Am I able to do that? How?
4. I tried setting Hebrew as my default language but that just moves the whole interface left. Because in Hebrew we write right to left. It wasn't like this when I had my GS3. I used a few CM Roms on my s3 and they were fine until the update to 4.3. Then it did the same thing on the S3 but I didn't know it would be like this on the N5. Is it something that can be fixed? Can I email Google or call them about this?
5. Is there anyone who is willing to recommend personally some ROMs, mods, apps or any modifications at all?
Thank you in advance!
Bei60 said:
Since Im a complete newbie I wanted to ask a few questions before doing anything stupid.
1. I noticed people are already posting new ROMs and kernels. Do I need them? I mean, I like the stock and everything but there are a few things I can't do. Why do YOU root and change ROMs?
2. I found a lot of kernels, and I understood that it can improve my performance and battery life. I would very much like to improve my battery life. The thing is, I don't know how. I do know that people are UVing and OCing their CPU, etc but what can a noob do who is not only a noob but also just bought a phone that the rooting thing is new to it. So no everything is fully developed, optimized and ready to go in a few clicks. Do I still need to wait a couple more weeks to change my kernel? I always read kernel threads and their changelogs but it is like jibarish to me. I can't even decide which one to pick.
3. I would really like to change my icons in the quick settings panel. Am I able to do that? How?
4. I tried setting Hebrew as my default language but that just moves the whole interface left. Because in Hebrew we write right to left. It wasn't like this when I had my GS3. I used a few CM Roms on my s3 and they were fine until the update to 4.3. Then it did the same thing on the S3 but I didn't know it would be like this on the N5. Is it something that can be fixed? Can I email Google or call them about this?
5. Is there anyone who is willing to recommend personally some ROMs, mods, apps or any modifications at all?
Thank you in advance!
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1 & 2 - I recommend reading the FAQ first, stickied at the top of this Q&A Section. This should give you a good starting knowledge
3 - would need an AOSP based ROM with this feature (CM / AOKP perhaps?)
4 - sorry, can't help
5 - No. This is against what XDA stands for. Read "No best rom threads" sticky in this forum.
1. All your answers can be found here for why you should root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966 or http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
2. Franco Kernel is very friendly to use and once rooted everything can be done from his paid google play app. check it out
3. Once rooted and with customer rom installed like cyanogenmod or paranoid android the themes you download from the google play store will sometimes change the settings icons too
4. i believe cyanogen mod roms have a good hebrew compatibility
5. Just start off very simply. use the cyanogenmod installer from the playstore and wait for the nexus 5 to become compatible. wait for the device to get into more peoples hands and youll see an influx of great roms and mods
good luck and welcome to the nexus community.
rootSU said:
1 & 2 - I recommend reading the FAQ first, stickied at the top of this Q&A Section. This should give you a good starting knowledge
3 - would need an AOSP based ROM with this feature (CM / AOKP perhaps?)
4 - sorry, can't help
5 - No. This is against what XDA stands for. Read "No best rom threads" sticky in this forum.
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bigballa said:
1. All your answers can be found here for why you should root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966 or http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
2. Franco Kernel is very friendly to use and once rooted everything can be done from his paid google play app. check it out
3. Once rooted and with customer rom installed like cyanogenmod or paranoid android the themes you download from the google play store will sometimes change the settings icons too
4. i believe cyanogen mod roms have a good hebrew compatibility
5. Just start off very simply. use the cyanogenmod installer from the playstore and wait for the nexus 5 to become compatible. wait for the device to get into more peoples hands and youll see an influx of great roms and mods
good luck and welcome to the nexus community.
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Thank you for your comments.
Kinda hard to decide wether to flash a different ROM or not. Hell, I haven't even rooted my device because I got it 7 hours ago
I'll be rooting it for sure, but I guess I'll wait a bit till CM or PA will come out. What did you guys install?
Bei60 said:
Thank you for your comments.
Kinda hard to decide wether to flash a different ROM or not. Hell, I haven't even rooted my device because I got it 7 hours ago
I'll be rooting it for sure, but I guess I'll wait a bit till CM or PA will come out. What did you guys install?
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Still rocking stock. Waiting for PA to release
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Bei60 said:
Thank you for your comments.
Kinda hard to decide wether to flash a different ROM or not. Hell, I haven't even rooted my device because I got it 7 hours ago
I'll be rooting it for sure, but I guess I'll wait a bit till CM or PA will come out. What did you guys install?
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My choice was to stay with Stock ROM. I am new to Nexus devices so I wanted to see the subtleties between stock and AOSP.
That said, De-odexed roms are easier to modifiy so I flashed one of those
rootSU said:
My choice was to stay with Stock ROM. I am new to Nexus devices so I wanted to see the subtleties between stock and AOSP.
That said, De-odexed roms are easier to modifiy so I flashed one of those
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How are they easier to modify? I mean, how does it come to use? Can you give me an example?
Also, I see you wrote your ROM, kernel and UVing settings in your signature. How is your battery life?
Bei60 said:
Since Im a complete newbie I wanted to ask a few questions before doing anything stupid.
4. I tried setting Hebrew as my default language but that just moves the whole interface left. Because in Hebrew we write right to left. It wasn't like this when I had my GS3. I used a few CM Roms on my s3 and they were fine until the update to 4.3. Then it did the same thing on the S3 but I didn't know it would be like this on the N5. Is it something that can be fixed? Can I email Google or call them about this?
Thank you in advance!
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Go to settings > About > tap build version 10 times to enable developer options.
Go in to developer options and you can change the screen alignment.
I second the FAQ at the top of this forum. Incredibly helpful and informative for anyone new to rooting. That should have everything you need, but I guess if I were to add anything to what the above guys (or girls) said, it would be to root FIRST before playing around with your N5 too much. Not sure if it's really obvious or not yet, but the rooting process will result in wiping your device, so it's generally recommended to get that out of the way.
That being said, once you're rooted, I can't recommend Titanium Backup enough for making sure all your stuff is available after any future ROM changes.
Lastly, welcome to the Nexus family =) Glad to have ya
abtekk said:
Go to settings > About > tap build version 10 times to enable developer options.
Go in to developer options and you can change the screen alignment.
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it didn't work
it works when my system is in English but not when its in Hebrew.. It still shows left to right and I need right to left
b.spec said:
I second the FAQ at the top of this forum. Incredibly helpful and informative for anyone new to rooting. That should have everything you need, but I guess if I were to add anything to what the above guys (or girls) said, it would be to root FIRST before playing around with your N5 too much. Not sure if it's really obvious or not yet, but the rooting process will result in wiping your device, so it's generally recommended to get that out of the way.
That being said, once you're rooted, I can't recommend Titanium Backup enough for making sure all your stuff is available after any future ROM changes.
Lastly, welcome to the Nexus family =) Glad to have ya
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thank! yea I watched a couple of videos and tutorials about rooting. I'll use Chainfire's tool that unlocks the BL + roots the device.
I'll stick to stock in the meanwhile, I'll just install Franco Kernel.
Bei60 said:
How are they easier to modify? I mean, how does it come to use? Can you give me an example?
Also, I see you wrote your ROM, kernel and UVing settings in your signature. How is your battery life?
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Its just easier. Every system app has an .odex file too that requires extra modification by a themer / developer. Deodexed systems don't need that
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I have the note 10.1 and I hear its fast enough to run kitkat, how do I get kitkat on my n8013?
This doesnt belong in the general thread but in the Q and A. Btw you can find tuturiols here in general or search one.
Guntert said:
I have the note 10.1 and I hear its fast enough to run kitkat, how do I get kitkat on my n8013?
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You CANT Officially.. Samsung Decided that those of us who bought the n8013 did not spend enough money to Deserve the update..
You can Load a Custom VERSION Thou. Read READ READ .. ITS on on here
Sorry for putting this in wrong place... I have read a few posts but understand them. Tried you tube and they were for other models, I did root already but it was like so easy it was just one click.
Guntert said:
Sorry for putting this in wrong place... I have read a few posts but understand them. Tried you tube and they were for other models, I did root already but it was like so easy it was just one click.
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If you do not care for Samnusmg stock, then I would suggest that you flash the Carbon ROM KitKat 4.4.2. This ROM is AOSP but is like cream cheese - smooooth and bug free. I have a N8013. Samsung based KitKat is a really poor effort from Samsung. It is quite average...
If you are bent on having Sam stock, try Gnabo ROM. Actually, try carl1961's method here first to get an idea of KK on the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770009 .
It is a very good starting point. Be careful what recovery you flash. For all I have suggested, Philz advanced CWM recovery works smoothly.....Flash this first then theROM.
Good luck!
chappatti said:
If you do not care for Samnusmg stock, then I would suggest that you flash the Carbon ROM KitKat 4.4.2. This ROM is AOSP but is like cream cheese - smooooth and bug free. I have a N8013. Samsung based KitKat is a really poor effort from Samsung. It is quite average...
If you are bent on having Sam stock, try Gnabo ROM. Actually, try carl1961's method here first to get an idea of KK on the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770009 .
It is a very good starting point. Be careful what recovery you flash. For all I have suggested, Philz advanced CWM recovery works smoothly.....Flash this first then theROM.
Good luck!
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Hello
Were can i download carbon rom for the samsung n8103 ? I'm running omni rom right now but i would like to run something different on it since i really don't have to many options for this tablet . i looked around for carbon and found nothing .
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Were can i download carbon rom for the samsung n8103 ? I'm running omni rom right now but i would like to run something different on it since i really don't have to many options for this tablet . i looked around for carbon and found nothing .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784870
HueyT said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784870
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Thanks Friend.
Thank u, I went and got a tab s
KitKat wanna be on my N8013
Guntert said:
I have the note 10.1 and I hear its fast enough to run kitkat, how do I get kitkat on my n8013?
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My device has become very slow but I am a downloading fool. What programs (many I have are duplicates with slightly differing features,) from file managers, to apk's utilized by most are the power hoarders?
Where can I find a copy of KitKat that is working, and AOSP as I am assuming I have to install that instead of the aroma installer I have used.
I look forward to all your help. A sort of perplexed person in Philadelphia.
I am running kit kat on my 8013 and it works great. Find "Gnabo rom" thread on xda.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762418
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Galaxy Note GT - N8013 unlock software is not listed the N8000 is; will it work?
I am begging for information to let me restore my tablet to its factory default state. As you can tell from below, I have used two 64 gig mem cards, and have only 2 gig of the 16 gig of internal storage left as I am an electronic tidbit hoarder. I want to upgrade my tablet and have a buyer if I restore the tablet to its pre purchase state. Please help as this device is not listed on GalaxyUnlocker. The closest device is the samsung N8000 ..... Any advices, opinions, hints, or feelings will all be tried.
Please help the hoarder in Philadelphia
Thank you
My device has become very slow but I am a downloading fool. What programs (many I have are duplicates with slightly differing features,) from file managers, to apk's utilized by most are the power hoarders?
Where can I find a copy of KitKat that is working, and AOSP as I am assuming I have to install that instead of the aroma installer I have used.
I look forward to all your help. A sort of perplexed person in Philadelphia.[/QUOTE]
joanno said:
I am begging for information to let me restore my tablet to its factory default state. As you can tell from below, I have used two 64 gig mem cards, and have only 2 gig of the 16 gig of internal storage left as I am an electronic tidbit hoarder. I want to upgrade my tablet and have a buyer if I restore the tablet to its pre purchase state. Please help as this device is not listed on GalaxyUnlocker. The closest device is the samsung N8000 ..... Any advices, opinions, hints, or feelings will all be tried.
Please help the hoarder in Philadelphia
Thank you
My device has become very slow but I am a downloading fool. What programs (many I have are duplicates with slightly differing features,) from file managers, to apk's utilized by most are the power hoarders?
Where can I find a copy of KitKat that is working, and AOSP as I am assuming I have to install that instead of the aroma installer I have used.
I look forward to all your help. A sort of perplexed person in Philadelphia.
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Get stock firmware from Samsung or Sammobile.com . and flash with ODIN.
Unfortunately Samsung will not be releasing any updates past 4.1.2 for the gt-n8013. They have come to the conclusion that anyone in north america does not deserve an update and will never release the update for the tablet even though they had an official press release stating we would get the update.
They don't care that you paid a premium and promised updates for this tablet. They expect you to buy a new tablet every year to get any android updates!
Two words! LEAVE SAMSUNG!
custom roms
So i rooted my gt n8013 using key root master i used root checker it said it was rooted. Now i did this with no pc just my tab .so what custom recovery should i install next that installs without a pc ? And once that is done is there a way to flash a custom rom for kit kit onto the device without a pc ? And which one do you recommend? Sorry for all the questions new to all this
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johna2u said:
I am running kit kat on my 8013 and it works great. Find "Gnabo rom" thread on xda.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762418
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So can this be installed without a pc
Pretty sure you need a pc to get the custom recovery installed.
Really then what does the cwm recovery app do?
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Really then what does the cwm recovery app do?
Any custom recovery needs to be designed to Work for your specific device. It may be possible to install a custom recovery with an app but you should definately do lots of reading before you attempt it.
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No "Development" in Settings
I'm pretty new to this, so have patience with me.
Just installed KitKat 4.4.2 on my GT-N8013. I wanted to tick the USB Debugging" checkbox, but there is no development section in the settings.
Am I missing something ?
Yes you are. In order activate the developer section you have to tap on build number about 7 or so times. That will make it appear.
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