As you may know, Mozilla (the famous team who brought us Firefox and Thunderbird Mail) is now creating an operating system based on mobile devices such as tablets and cell phones. As an open-source supporter and lover, I'm interested to see where this goes. But how does this operating system have anything to do with us you say? Well, Mozilla is working on QualComm based hardware, and they need phones to test the operating system on. Well, the phones they have choose to use to test Boot 2 Gecko, is none other than the Galaxy S II! Expect we'll be the first ones with a fully-stable working Boot 2 Gecko build. This would mean, that we would have up to two choices for operating systems, Android and Boot 2 Gecko.
Source : http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/faq/
Wow, Really looking forward to a new os!
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As you may know, Mozilla (the famous team who brought us Firefox and Thunderbird Mail) is now creating an operating system based on mobile devices such as tablets and cell phones. As an open-source supporter and lover, I'm interested to see where this goes. But how does this operating system have anything to do with us you say? Well, Mozilla is working on QualComm based hardware, and they need phones to test the operating system on. Well, the phones they have choose to use to test Boot 2 Gecko, is none other than the Galaxy S II! Expect we'll be the first ones with a fully-stable working Boot 2 Gecko build. This would mean, that we would have up to two choices for operating systems, Android and Boot 2 Gecko.
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http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/faq/
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Thats crazy! Might attract some Dev's!
This looks really cool! I'm excited to see what happens for this project. It might turn out to be a truly useful OS. A game changer really since it's trying to be a truly open source OS
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This looks really cool! I'm excited to see what happens for this project. It might turn out to be a truly useful OS. A game changer really since it's trying to be a truly open source OS
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Indeed it is. I'm excited as well!
Edit : I'm having troubles making a hyperlink from my phone. Sorry.
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Imho they'd better port Thunderbird to Android.
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Hi Friends,
Have anybody tried to dual boot android with ios5. It will be great if someone can do this.
While searching came across this
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.in/
Any solutions?
I don't think that's possible.
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You can't run iOS as a rom because its closed source. It would be impossible to port because all the libs are different even though its based off linux
IOS is based off of Mac OSX which is based off of *Unix*
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so the info on the links is just bull**** ?
BUT: it is possible to have your android phone "transformed" to look like ios with miui rom and iphone theme.
that still doesnt give access to the appstore but its as near as we can get to ios looks
Got none of the required devices I would have tried otherwise :/
i have a desire hd but i dont really think this is legit.. probably just some guy hunting payperclicks
This will never be possible. IPhone and android phones havedifferent processor architecture.
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It IS possible to dual boot an iPhone with Android and iOS, the project is called iDroid (idroidproject[.]org) but some of the iPhone jail breakers (like @chronic) are creating a linux-based OS (called Magenta) that replicates iPhone OS 1.0, my source says that it currently runs on ARM7 hardware
Magenta is an implementation of Darwin/BSD on top of the Linux kernel. It is made up of a number of kernel and userland components that work together. It is fully binary compatible with iPhone OS 5.0 (as in, it uses the same binary format).
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The final goal is probably recreating the iPhone OS 1.0 stack. I think this is a pretty feasible goal, considering the fact that there are so many open source libs that can be used to replace the proprietary libs used by Apple. Just as an example:
* CoreGraphics -> Cairo
-> FreeType
-> libpng/jpg
* Celestial -> Various open source media decoding libs.
* UIKit -> Chamelleon
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see my source for the news post: ht.tp://bit[.]ly/KZZ1up (9to5Mac)
More information about Magenta: ht.tp://bit[.]ly/Oo6eV4
Or this for the source code: ht.tp://crna[.]cc/magenta_source.html
The original ios firmware? ? I think its cool, hope they develop for the new ios though. Number one was pretty lame
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Dri94 said:
The original ios firmware? ? I think its cool, hope they develop for the new ios though. Number one was pretty lame
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I think so, they say the aim is to run iOS
The project does not wish to build a platform that can run Apple’s App Store apps; it appears to just aim at running iOS.
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As you can see it isn't for running App Store apps, but if it has root access like a rooted android, then you can just put any app on the device..
Like a Cydia app (for the ones who don't know: Cydia is an App Store that you get when you jailbreak your iPhone)
Dual boot iOS and Android. Hm... why not to try Linux instead? iOS is not flexible as Android and what's the point of it? Also we can start porting Windows 8 and other stuff.
arpitsinghi said:
Hi Friends,
Have anybody tried to dual boot android with ios5. It will be great if someone can do this.
While searching came across this
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.in/
Any solutions?
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iOS 5 is designed to run only on apple's specified hardware design. It is next to impossible to have apple software running on android hardware, but there have been reports of android running on apple hardware. This all involves a lot of lib tweaking, proper execution of binaries, andjust plain coding genius.
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k28king1 said:
iOS 5 is designed to run only on apple's specified hardware design. It is next to impossible to have apple software running on android hardware, but there have been reports of android running on apple hardware. This all involves a lot of lib tweaking, proper execution of binaries, andjust plain coding genius.
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Look at post #9 It IS possible if someone tries to get it on an android with a bit porting of the Magenta-project. And yes it is possible to run android on iPhone (post #9 as well) it is called iDroid (as mentioned in post #9)
here is the source code from cronic, who is an apple dev, who is working on porting it for us, http://crna.cc/ , if any dev is wishing to finish it off with his android intel
why doenst just buy an iPhone ?
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here is the source code from cronic, who is an apple dev, who is working on porting it for us, ht.tp://crna.cc/ , if any dev is wishing to finish it off with his android intel
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That is exactly what's said in post 9! Don't people read the whole topic, or do you just post blindly and hope that someone before you didn't post that ?? Sorry for getting off-topic
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For those asking "why?", I found this thread because I would like an Android tablet, but I'm worried I'll want the latest app or game and it will be only on iOS for too long before going to Android. I'd like the best of both worlds, someday (perhaps when iDroid is out of alpha).
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For those asking "why?", I found this thread because I would like an Android tablet, but I'm worried I'll want the latest app or game and it will be only on iOS for too long before going to Android. I'd like the best of both worlds, someday (perhaps when iDroid is out of alpha).
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If you want the best of both worlds, let me give you some suggestions:
Buy a jailbreak-able iPhone (4S or 4 recommended) jailbreak it on iOS 5.1.1 (if that's the current OS) and then with Cydia you can customize your iPhone as much as you want.
Buy both of them (which I have done) and enjoy
But do not expect iDroid to be stable anytime soon, for now..
That was a bit off-topic, sorry, but I hope this helps!
Android x86 works fine on my notebook PC. And, I can do almost everything with it: Ranging from web surfing to programming.
But still, nobody cares about it. Why?
What's really the advantages of desktop OSes over Android? Why don't OEMs ship computers with Android as primary OS? Why don't people think Android when PC comes in mind?
I'll tell you why, Windows sells and people buy! Microsoft has the consumer market all tied up with the PC. Most consumers couldn't care less about programming, hacking, developing, etc... web surfing and Facebook and emailing? Yeah, that's what they want. Now, another question: why would people who purchase a PC want to pay additionally or inclusively to the price of a PC for Windows OS, when most distros of Linux are absolutely free? I'm running an Ubuntu 12.04 LTS/Win7 setup on my laptop. I'm getting closer and closer each day to wiping Win7 completely off, but have some reservations in doing so. Anyhow, my two cents worth...
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Windows comes first for game developers. That is why I dual boot. if Linux got love from from game devs it would have a better chance at success. The other issue would be driver compatibility, although this has gotten a lot better.
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muddflap said:
Windows comes first for game developers. That is why I dual boot. if Linux got love from from game devs it would have a better chance at success.
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I am talking about Android, not normal Linux. I think, Android does have nice games..
Well, when the time comes for a full fledged OS, Android is still lacking in apps for that. One step in the right direction will be to multiply the current variety of tablet apps.
Make more apps have tablet optimisation and then we can talk about desktop apps.
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Well, once I can root any Android from an Android, Sign me up. Meanwhile I gotta bow to the all mighty glass structure.
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It wont happen for another 100 years.
I like my skateboard. But, I wouldn't go highway on it.
Same thing.
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I like my skateboard. But, I wouldn't go highway on it.
Same thing.
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What most people do: Facebook, Email, Chat, Casual Gaming
Do you think, Android isn't suitable for that?
It's not the same thing!
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What most people do: Facebook, Email, Chat, Casual Gaming
Do you think, Android isn't suitable for that?
It's not the same thing!
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Your answer is also a point against android as a viable desktop, by that I mean a desktop should be able to do more than just "what most people do".
That and you can't just download and install hardware drivers for android so it renders a lot of peripherals only useable with pc mac or linux.
Android can be a desktop if you don't tax your pc with more demanding tasks such as audio or video editing. Once you want to do anything more specific than gaming or browsing android does not yet offer the ability to.
I think it is viable but because it is not designed to be anything more than a mobile operating system it would struggle to be a desktop replacement.
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Your answer is also a point against android as a viable desktop, by that I mean a desktop should be able to do more than just "what most people do".
That and you can't just download and install hardware drivers for android so it renders a lot of peripherals only useable with pc mac or linux.
Android can be a desktop if you don't tax your pc with more demanding tasks such as audio or video editing. Once you want to do anything more specific than gaming or browsing android does not yet offer the ability to.
I think it is viable but because it is not designed to be anything more than a mobile operating system it would struggle to be a desktop replacement.
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Initially, even Windows didn't have such high-end apps. After bringing Android to mainstream, those types of apps will appear on Android, for sure.
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Initially, even Windows didn't have such high-end apps. After bringing Android to mainstream, those types of apps will appear on Android, for sure.
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As soon as windows came out it was not long before the programs were available, android works differently to windows (for example in its use of user installable drivers) and is, unlike windows, not designed to be a desktop so the apps don't or perhaps cannot in some cases (such as adobe type video editing software) be made that will enable android to meet all pc desktop needs.
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The future android versions may change depending on the team's direction though.
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Markuzy said:
The future android versions may change depending on the team's direction though.
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That's true, I think ics was more desktop friendly than say gingerbread and I would love an android desktop
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The future android versions may change depending on the team's direction though.
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I agree..
Let me correct myself.
I actually don't think Android is as low performing as a skateboard.
At best, I think it's more like a scooter. It gets a job done if it's about taking you to point A to B. And, that's pretty much it at this point.
A car, on the other hand, can do many more things. It is far more versatile. It stands against the weather. It can carry all your family members. It is far more powerful...etc.
Remember old days of laptops? In those days, people with a laptop also had to have desktops although same OS was being used. It was because laptops weren't just powerful enough to suit higher end tasks. The situation is similar in that regard.
For you, Android and supporting hardware and apps might be good enough to replace desktop. However, it isn't so for majority of people and that's the point. A desktop OS needs ability to support all types of usage scenarios, not to mention hardware.
Can current Android do it? No.
Android isn't a desktop OS. Its built for touch and feels pretty limited when being controlled via mouse/kb. Ubuntu would be a better choice since its a decent well established desktop OS, especially when the Ubuntu on Android project is out allowing android apps to run on Ubuntu and vice versa. I'd love to see the popularity of Android help Ubuntu.
IceBean said:
Let me correct myself.
I actually don't think Android is as low performing as a skateboard.
At best, I think it's more like a scooter. It gets a job done if it's about taking you to point A to B. And, that's pretty much it at this point.
A car, on the other hand, can do many more things. It is far more versatile. It stands against the weather. It can carry all your family members. It is far more powerful...etc.
Remember old days of laptops? In those days, people with a laptop also had to have desktops although same OS was being used. It was because laptops weren't just powerful enough to suit higher end tasks. The situation is similar in that regard.
For you, Android and supporting hardware and apps might be good enough to replace desktop. However, it isn't so for majority of people and that's the point. A desktop OS needs ability to support all types of usage scenarios, not to mention hardware.
Can current Android do it? No.
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I was talking about majority of people (not myself). That's why Google launched Chrome OS.
According to surveys, most of people do those things with Desktop PCs which is possible with Android devices.
Android is more powerful than Chrome OS. If Chrome OS can go to commercial Laptops, why can't Android?
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Android isn't a desktop OS. Its built for touch and feels pretty limited when being controlled via mouse/kb. Ubuntu would be a better choice since its a decent well established desktop OS, especially when the Ubuntu on Android project is out allowing android apps to run on Ubuntu and vice versa. I'd love to see the popularity of Android help Ubuntu.
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You do have point.
We can use mouse, but it feels pretty limited.
But, what if someone says, you'll become used to after using that continuously. You may not like dragging welcome screen of Windows 8 at this time, but you'll love it once its in your mainstream.
Its actually being worked by one Linux company .
Take off off an app based Linux,Android desktop will happen .
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Hey XDA,
Huge noob here, just wanted to propose a discussion. But first, a little background
I was recently looking into the new windows 8 platform and, like many people, I am not entirely convinced by it. This essentially just fueled my interest in the idea of making android a PC operating system as well as a mobile one.
Now on to my discussion question...
Since there has been some ports of Android floating around as downloadable ISO files, I was thinking. If laptops start becoming more touchscreen based (which I'm certain they will given windows 8s release) and thus, xda development of android for PCs becomes more grand scale, Wouldn't it really give android a strong backing if they had a fully featured steam app built off of steam's linux port "coming soon".
So tell me, What are your thoughts? Possible, not possible? Good Idea, Bad? Let's hear it.
Well that would be cool
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Meh, android in my opinion is not suited for a computer. Android has power, but I feel it doesn't have the necessary power for a computer. I would rather use a Linux district running an interface better suited for touch/net books like kde or unity
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Ever heard of a chrome book?
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hey guys
i have a question is there any chance to get ubuntu mobile on our phone?
i know its not proper released so far i m just asking
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
it is wokring on galaxy nexus
it looks very cool check that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8
thanks in advance
samsim7 said:
hey guys
i have a question is there any chance to get ubuntu mobile on our phone?
i know its not proper released so far i m just asking
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
it is wokring on galaxy nexus
it looks very cool check that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8
thanks in advance
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Yes it is possible buddy.:good:
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Yes it is possible buddy.:good:
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How? ...
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How? ...
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sorry buddy wrong interpreted. Its possible as minimum requirement is Cortex A9 processor
System requirements for smartphonesEntry level Ubuntu smartphoneHigh-end Ubuntu "superphone"Processor architecture 1Ghz Cortex A9 Quad-core A9 or Intel AtomMemory 512MB – 1GB Min 1GBFlash storage 4-8GB eMMC + SD Min 32GB eMMC + SDMulti-touch YES yesDesktop convergenceNo Yes
Buddy we have a cortex A9 processor.
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Buddy we have a cortex A9 processor.
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Sorry guys, I was actually very much busy & didn;t know what I just wrote. sorry.
BT what I jst edited it correct. it will be for us...
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How? ...
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Ubuntu is gonna be one another OS for smartphones. It will use the same Linux kernels and drivers but will use its own environment for developing. So for us, it will be like a new interface for our phones...Like using Ubuntu in our Window based PC. They are planning to release new phones which have Ubuntu as their OS. I think even before their release of smartphones, they will be releasing their sources which can be used for existing Android phones.
It's just a initial teaser. Hopefully it will get released by 2014...So long way to go....
P.S - You can register yourself here @ Announcement so that you will be notified just before date is finalized for release.
I don't have words. Simply amazing! Finally a native mobile OS that can work on our device.
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The gesture support is very amazing
Only downside will be availability of apps as of now. But hopefully it will gain popularity and apps start flowing in.
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The gesture support is very amazing
Only downside will be availability of apps as of now. But hopefully it will gain popularity and apps start flowing in.
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The Development work on apps has already started. So by the time the OS is readily available for us, we will a gud volume of apps. And for those who wish to develop apps, you can check it over here.
And one more advantage is that as i said it will be developed in its own platform, it will reduce the Overhead of Java and there by it will be more smoother. Hope there won't be any head swirling smali.
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The Development work on apps has already started. So by the time the OS is readily available for us, we will a gud volume of apps. And for those who wish to develop apps, you can check it over here.
And one more advantage is that as i said it will be developed in its own platform, it will reduce the Overhead of Java and there by it will be more smoother. Hope there won't be any head swirling smali.
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What am i thinking is Tizen is also going to be release ( as humor said) & simply following it, ubuntu is also going to be. so, Android is towards downfall or something else..??
Tizen is a totally different OS. It'd be much harder to port it than Ubuntu for phones. It is said that S4 will be released with Tizen, but I don't think so. They would lose many users because of the lack of apps.
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Adam77Root said:
Tizen is a totally different OS. It'd be much harder to port it than Ubuntu for phones. It is said that S4 will be released with Tizen, but I don't think so. They would lose many users because of the lack of apps.
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And Tizen is being rumoured for a long time but i dont think they will experiment it with 'S' series phones..Even it was said Bada will be made as a Open source but after Wave-3, i dont see any Bada OS supported phones and u know what, Cyanogenmod has been ported to Wave series phones which had Bada OS and now they are enjoying Jelly Bean in Wave phones. To be frank, Wave series phones had excellent hardwares and now with Cyanogenmod, it wud be superb..CM10
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And Tizen is being rumoured for a long time but i dont think they will experiment it with 'S' series phones..Even it was said Bada will be made as a Open source but after Wave-3, i dont see any Bada OS supported phones and u know what, Cyanogenmod has been ported to Wave series phones which had Bada OS and now they are enjoying Jelly Bean in Wave phones. To be frank, Wave series phones had excellent hardwares and now with Cyanogenmod, it wud be superb..CM10
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Agreed for Tizen. but somewhere rumored were for Tizen for Wave II & III. but unfortunately Bada OS ported to them. But yes, now what I want is can we port Bada for our device..?? Lols..head scratching..
Why Bada OS? As the specifications satisfied, we can get the ubuntu OS.. Just seen the videos.. It is amazing and they are going to use same android based kernel..
Love to see different OS in our R... Also, just read somewhere that the Tegra 2 device running windows 8 RT..
so we have good chances to get it :laugh: :good:???
amazin
karthik050782 said:
Why Bada OS? As the specifications satisfied, we can get the ubuntu OS.. Just seen the videos.. It is amazing and they are going to use same android based kernel..
Love to see different OS in our R... Also, just read somewhere that the Tegra 2 device running windows 8 RT..
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Yes buddy, just like Bada OS now runnign CM10(android) so we can run there also. But I asked from SIyah Kernel Dev for building the Kernel for us but he simply denied coz he doesn;t have time for us. BTW Selva.simple buddy is working on it. May be we can have it.:fingers-crossed:
If we will have dual booting kernel then WIndows & others ROM can be thinking to port to our device also.
Hey just now see this one -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079869
Meizu ICS ROM ported to HTC HDLeo. check out this one also.
I sent message to ubuntu team and they replay and told me that they are on thier way to announce the software but it still beta till now
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Even if we have a dual-booting kernel, we won't have Windows-based OSes. It is totally different.
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Even if we have a dual-booting kernel, we won't have Windows-based OSes. It is totally different.
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Agreed for the same buddy. But if it can be done ( as processors & if we get the source over which other did the same) for others then can't it be for us. Means I said, "dual booting" means Android in one hand & MS OS other hand.
-possible?
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-possible?
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Ubuntu? Yes. lOS? You'd have better luck getting Windows 2000 to boot on our phones.
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iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
possible
jmxc23 said:
iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
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well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half of the apps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
trook said:
well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half ofapps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
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Ubuntu like Android is based on Linux so that isn't a surprise that it runs on the Nexus. Linux OS have been dual booted on windows computers for a long time so seeing Android dual-booted on Windows phones isn‘t a surprise either. Also those are dual booted not really replacing your android OS. The pic your talking about is a Ubuntu mobile OS so it should actually replace stock android like a custom rom does. I will also add that iOS is closed source software so you risk legal action doing that. The thread you linked to is closed.
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