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Hi!
I have a major problem with Pro. Had it for week and already I have missed many calls. Well, technically I've answered them :-(
The problem is that when a call comes in, the touch screen activates and if the phone is in pocket, it will very likely answer the call. It has done this many times and it does it so fast that the vibrating alarm doesn't even vibrate once. So I have no idea that somebody is listening to me in my pocket!
No, the button lock, doesn't seem to help here. Try it. Even with button lock on, you can answer the incoming calls with touch screen.
So what to do? I am really lost with this. Do I need to power off the phone completely when I'm on the road and only power it on when it's on the table? Yes, that works... and yes, it would be ridiculous.
One solution could be that when an incoming call is coming, one would need to enable the touch screen by pressing one of the hardware keys. And the call could be answered with the hardware keys also. After all, they do not press down easily in the pocket. But there is no way to set the phone this way AFAIK.
So, please guys help! (Google didn't help although Diamond users must have the same problem.)
I have the same problem!!! Didn't figured out a way to solve it by my own. It's realy annoying, especially if you do not want to answer at all to the person that is calling.
please, did anyone find a solution to this issue?
someone tried this and seem to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2551522&postcount=124\
I would like to try it without changing the dialier
Source link is here
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=988590&p=14#r263
Think a little app is required that blocks off touch screen as incoming call arrives.
Same problem on the Diamond :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414731
I have tested the technique exposed by Carloshdez with CSDEVCTRL 3.28 and it works on the TP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2590105&postcount=188
I Followed his configuration, but entered "0" at the top for "Lock if Idle for Sec"
When the phone rings, CSDEVCTRL deactivate the screen but keep the hard keys activated.
Very complicated solutions it seems... I do not like to replace the dialler for instance. Hmmm.
Any solution where it would be possible to "open" the touch screen before doing anything to the call. I mean, it needs to behave so that
- the screen activates and you can see who is calling
- the touch screen is inactivate so that you do not accidentally answer it
- you can "open" the touch screen to
* answer
* hang-up
* mute
* i.e. all things that are now possible
This is because the hardware buttons do not give you all options, like mute and send text.
Hate to say, but iPhone style (or should I rather say Androind style) "slide to unlock" might be it as it's not that probably thing to happen in pocket. Are there such programs? And what do they do otherwise (that I probably do not want )?
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
dmsr66 said:
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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dmsr66 said:
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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You didn't get the mute part... I frequently want to mute the ringing WITHOUT answering or hanging up the call. Excellent feature BTW! Usually just to walk away from the current situation to quiet place to answer the call. Yes, I know I can do that with turning the phone upside down also, but there is also the text message option that I'm learning to use also.
I guess I need to try S2U2 then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
try this over S2U2!
Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
fireblade63 said:
What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
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If the other party ends the call, the phone unlock. Actually it is only lock during "ringing"
paulyluca said:
Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
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I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
The whole sensor thing is turning into a carnival, hopefully some real useful apps will be made using it.
EnOleEikka said:
I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
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I would apreciate a application that locks the phones touch screen while it rings and unlocks it after you answer (so that you can use it during the call).
Can't make this application, i'm not that smart, but maybe someone els can?
LE: I think this thread should be made "Sticky" until we find a solution, because we have here a real issue!!!
I am going to attempt to DEV an app like that, but I am sure one of the Senior's could dev this much quicker
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
anonimo said:
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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And that is how I've also answered and ended a call before I've slid the phone out of the pouch since the pouch is quite tight and activates the screen...
Need some other option on screen, like S2U, to 'unlock' the normal phone app' touch options first.
anonimo said:
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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It IS in his Pouch, and both in my pocket, but it answers itself the calls!!!!
The app should use the side bottons to MUTE the call.
Hi guys,
Situation is this… when a call comes in, the phone wakes up and the display is active to either answer or reject… but the problem is if the phone is in my pocket or shirt and I’m moving around or don’t hear it, the friction of the clothing will answer or reject it for me without me knowing…
Question: is there a way to deactivate the touch screen when a call comes in so I only use the hard buttons to answer or reject the incoming calls? When I say deactivate the touch screen, I still want to see the screen for the call display and stuff and not have it blank or black.
Any solutions to this? Thanks everyone.
venom037 said:
Hi guys,
Situation is this… when a call comes in, the phone wakes up and the display is active to either answer or reject… but the problem is if the phone is in my pocket or shirt and I’m moving around or don’t hear it, the friction of the clothing will answer or reject it for me without me knowing…
Question: is there a way to deactivate the touch screen when a call comes in so I only use the hard buttons to answer or reject the incoming calls? When I say deactivate the touch screen, I still want to see the screen for the call display and stuff and not have it blank or black.
Any solutions to this? Thanks everyone.
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This has been discussed in many other threads. This is the one I'd get, but you can look for other options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
there is also a slide to unlock (similar to iphone), but i'm not sure if this actually locks the "Call" key at the bottom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
s2u2 does not lock the hardware buttons. I haven't had any problems with pressing the hardware buttons while the phone is in the pocket so I think that shouldn't be a problem.
baboola said:
This has been discussed in many other threads. This is the one I'd get, but you can look for other options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
there is also a slide to unlock (similar to iphone), but i'm not sure if this actually locks the "Call" key at the bottom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
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thanks, this is exactly what I'm looking for.. ur a star.
i remember a while back a fake video of a guy using a thumb print to unlock his phone.
Is there a modification that can be done so that somebody could just touch a location on the screen to unlock it? I wouldnt mind putting a fake thumb print background and having that as the unlock
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
jez83uk said:
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
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good idea..anybody want to attempt this?
i would be keen in using this! nice idea guys.
The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
mysterd said:
The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
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not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
You might be able to do something like this with wisbar desktop. I made something like this for a star wars image but nothing that scrolls down like you said. If any software could do it i bet on wisbar desktop. Great idea.
ls6tt said:
not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
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By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
mysterd said:
By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
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thanks for the explanation. Wasn't sure what you meant.
If it recognizes one pixel at a time and you set a block of pixels as the touch point wouldn't this work.
thanks for the advice, anybody else?
You could make it look like it was scanning your thumb, but you couldn't make it really scan it. If you open up one of these touch screens it is just some metal dots on two sheets of clear plastic. They register when they are pressed together and touch. Nothing more.
I believe that Sunscape is an app that will appeal to alot of you guys.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416843 I never tried it but I hear it has a rub to unlock feature...as well as using possible pressure points on the screen to unlock.
I've been doing alot of research about unlockers because I want to build one that like an unlocker combined with an applauncher, when you slide to unlock you basically just slide the icon you want to launch after the unlock and once the screen unlocks it opens to that program. I think it seems logical and keeps people from having to delve into the UI just to unlock and send an SMS or whatever...
I get another idea . In this version i Slide to right , who can change this for slide to left becouse i have SE Xperia X1. And slide to right it's uncomfortable for me becouse slider it's moving. If someone have this motive, please place this
I actually got into android very recently, but very hard. Let me know what you think of my story. it's way too long to put on a post here but check it out, maybe you have something to add? comments?
my blog post
re: my introduction to android
I had kind of a funny one too. But I was able to grasp it within a few hours of using with the help of a few friends.
I failed to answer my 1st phone call, not knowing how to drag to answer calls, I kept tapping on the answer button =.=
The notification bar was also something new to me, switching from nokia's symbian.
I found the transition actually extremely easy. I admit to unlock the first time was interesting, as well as answering my first phone call I may have FU buttoned my girlfriend. now it just feels right!
Symbian had just a button to tap on the screen to unlock. i made booty calls all the time with my nokia nuron, especially with the physical call button
i really loved the spring loaded unlock slider on the side though. it was really satisfying and yielded no lock screen. only pressing another button to unlock showed the lock screen.
Hi,
Since 1 year i'm dreaming about an APP but i can't find anything similar to my idea. I'm neither a developer to whrite it myself. If someone know an app similar to this idea or a framework to do the same please let me know. And sorry for my bad english.
I don't like to enter a pin, swipe a pattern, take a picture or fingerprint everytime i want to unlock my phone. I like it easy just swipe and unlock or double click screen. But after unlock there should be a timer running in the background like 10-30 sec. in this time you have to press a invisible button (user desides the location of the button). If the button is not pressed the phone lockes itself by a generated key, the key is then send to your email with login information like ip address, location and maybe a picture from both cameras. The only way to unlock it is by the key. You should also be able to wipe the phone remote and lock it by google.
There should also be a warning in the last 10 sec. when you may forget about it.
I know its maybe tricky with alarms and incoming phone calls. For alarm or incoming phone calls this feature should deactivated as the phone lockes itself anyway after you end call or cancel alarm.
I'm very shure this APP need root access, i don't care, i rootet most of my phones.
@MOD's: i hope this is the right forum to post this, if not im sorry.
Please let me know if there is an App like this. If not and someone like the idea and want to develop it just do it That would make me very happy.
Peace out
scheissegalo said:
Hi,
Since 1 year i'm dreaming about an APP but i can't find anything similar to my idea. I'm neither a developer to whrite it myself. If someone know an app similar to this idea or a framework to do the same please let me know. And sorry for my bad english.
I don't like to enter a pin, swipe a pattern, take a picture or fingerprint everytime i want to unlock my phone. I like it easy just swipe and unlock or double click screen. But after unlock there should be a timer running in the background like 10-30 sec. in this time you have to press a invisible button (user desides the location of the button). If the button is not pressed the phone lockes itself by a generated key, the key is then send to your email with login information like ip address, location and maybe a picture from both cameras. The only way to unlock it is by the key. You should also be able to wipe the phone remote and lock it by google.
There should also be a warning in the last 10 sec. when you may forget about it.
I know its maybe tricky with alarms and incoming phone calls. For alarm or incoming phone calls this feature should deactivated as the phone lockes itself anyway after you end call or cancel alarm.
I'm very shure this APP need root access, i don't care, i rootet most of my phones.
@MOD's: i hope this is the right forum to post this, if not im sorry.
Please let me know if there is an App like this. If not and someone like the idea and want to develop it just do it That would make me very happy.
Peace out
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That would not be as secure as just using a PIN/password. Anyone could randomly press the screen after swiping and get lucky enough to actually tap the invisible button to unlock it even if they don't know that the invisible button is there or where it's located.
Come up with a better idea.
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Droidriven said:
That would not be as secure as just using a PIN/password. Anyone could randomly press the screen after swiping and get lucky enough to actually tap the invisible button to unlock it even if they don't know that the invisible button is there or where it's located.
Come up with a better idea.
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The Button is not to unlock the phone. its just something i know is there but noone else because its invisible. if no button is pressed after x secounds THEN the phone will lock with a complicated key send to my email. Invisible button is just an idea, could also be a noise you have to make or whatever. the idea behind it is to make your phone like the swort from Wesley snipes in the movie blade. If you not press the button your hand get smashed. Not to smash someones Hand but to make the phone unusable same time get pictures and location of the thief.
but unlocking phone for yourself is still just a swipe. I hope you got me this time. Sorry if my english is to bad to explain what i mean.
scheissegalo said:
The Button is not to unlock the phone. its just something i know is there but noone else because its invisible. if no button is pressed after x secounds THEN the phone will lock with a complicated key send to my email. Invisible button is just an idea, could also be a noise you have to make or whatever. the idea behind it is to make your phone like the swort from Wesley snipes in the movie blade. If you not press the button your hand get smashed. Not to smash someones Hand but to make the phone unusable same time get pictures and location of the thief.
but unlocking phone for yourself is still just a swipe. I hope you got me this time. Sorry if my english is to bad to explain what i mean.
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You didn't understand.
If you locked your device and someone picked it up and tried to unlock by swiping, it would take them to the timer you mention, while the timer is counting they could randomly tap the screen and get lucky enough to tap the invisible button, EVEN IF THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S THERE OR WHAT IT DOES, then the device will be unlocked.
I'm saying they could very easily "accidently" unlock your phone
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Droidriven said:
You didn't understand.
If you locked your device and someone picked it up and tried to unlock by swiping, it would take them to the timer you mention, while the timer is counting they could randomly tap the screen and get lucky enough to tap the invisible button, EVEN IF THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S THERE OR WHAT IT DOES, then the device will be unlocked.
I'm saying they could very easily "accidently" unlock your phone
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I think you don´t understand.
the button and even the timer is unvisible. you can use the phone for x sec normally. YES maybe the thief is lucky and hit the unvisible button without knowing he did. But it won´t happen a secound time. then the phone get locked ............
anyways i would put the button in a area where you never tap, like corners.
i know this is maybe not the securest way to lock the phone but i'm lazy and i like to just swipe to unlock. it's just to have a little bit more security, i hate pin or patterns. But i see that i'm alone with that opinion