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Before I ask, I know there have been many threads about this topic, but my question is a little more specific than the rest. I get to upgrade my phone sometime in the next few weeks and one of these will be my first android phone. As a young artist, I am mostly looking for a phone which will take quality photos for good reference and preferably one which has video auto focus. I'm also a heavy internet user (about 5 hours a day on iPod Touch) but coming from iOS, I long for flash player. I also like to game a lot so the dual core cpu performance has to be somewhat decent with good speeds (better than my 4th gen touch at least lol). Lastly I'm a big media person with music a videos so I'm looking for a quality screen, support for multiple media formats (specifically mkv), decent speakers, and if possible, support for in-line headphones with volume, FF and RR (optional to come in the box, but if there are alternative working ones, please post below as I haven't found a solution with android devices and working in-line headphones). I've played around with my cousins EVO a lot so I've grown a liking to HTC Sense but I would also like to try out stock android sometime. And after a lot of time reading reviews and comments, I've taken a liking to the Galaxy S II's screen but I'm not a fan of TouchWiz. As previously stated, coming from an iOS user, I'm hoping one of these phones can either match or have greater quality with the screen in terms of brightness and contrast (not so much with resolution but mostly with colors, hue, and saturation). I'm hoping this narrows down the margin between these 3 phones.
P.S. I'm also hoping for one of these to have great dev support since I love to customize and test new tweaks.
EDITED - Also as an additional post, can you explain the batter life of the 3 as best as you can (even considering not having much info about the sensation)
I would say the G2X after LG fixes the Bleeding screen, restarts, and battery life issue. Both the GS2 and Sensatoin both have skins over android to which I've never been a fan of. 1st GS2 Engaget did a review and called it the best smart phone on the planet (the week before g2x was lol) but its made of plastic and its really thin so if the unthinkable happens and you drop the phone changes are its going to get jacked up and touchwiz. 2. Sensation Ive never been a fan of sense its a power hungry beast that needs to be removed. Just look at the battery life of the thunderbolt its really bad.
I had the G2X for a week and I loved it, its solid like my Nexus One it feels like a phone. I dropped it twice once on my tile floor and there were no marks and once on my naked foot to which brought me great pain. (lol) The G2X will have CM7 the galaxy s phones don't have CM support so why do you think that GS2 will? I plan on getting anothe G2x I'm just waiting until the 2nd line of them.
It honestly sounds like the Galaxy S II is just right for you. I know you say you dont like touchwiz (believe me I hate it) but the TW 4.0 or whatever its called looks really nice. From what I have seen it looks better than sense ui. Anyways, there have been battles between the G2X and the Galaxy S II and hardware wise the GSII always has the upper hand with camera, performance, screen, colors, etc.. However there are many things to consider. Do we even know what US carrier (if any) will receive the GSII? Also coming from the vibrant I swore up and down I wouild never buy a samsung phone again. Their lack of software support was just unacceptable. Im not even talking upgrades, just basic bug fixes. Development for this phone NEVER gave us a fully functioning stock android or AOSP ROM. Sure CM7 made a lot of headway and may still come to the galaxy s with all the fixes but right now it still has bugs and some things just dont work.
To make a long story short, I got the G2X because I wanted a stock android experience with a lot of developer backing (specifically cyanogenmod) and the specs of the phone are pretty amazing. Now it sounds to me like media and camera are more important to you so you may feel more welcome by the Galaxy S II if you dont care about aftermarket roms and such.
get 2x
coming from a vibrant, i can say that screen on the g2x is actually better and it being a stock android updates come faster and custom roms will also. I can't wait for the cyanogen mod either. I had battery issues but after resetting my phone the battery works just fine. they all have similar processors but the g2x being stock will get you better performance. I am a photographer also and am creating a photo journal with the g2x and it does the job well. good luck
i say go for SGS2, it works quite good out of the box and it has a great screen and you will absolutely appreciate the larger screen. Though im not really a fan of touchwiz.
I have g2x and going to return it today for SGS2.
There is no doubt in my mind that the dev support will be there for the sgs2 but it will be greater on the g2x just b/c of all the vanillaness.
The weight of the galaxy line is extremely light but believe me when I say that it is extremely durable. My old cliq felt like a brick but the second time I dropped that it stopped working completely so weight and feel have nothing to do with durability.
My vibrant has pretty much been through the equivalent of back to back fights with Manny Pacquiao and Anderson Silva only to come out as the new peoples champ. If you can wait, I would say try to see what all 3 of them are like and whether or not they come to your carrier. Its what I'm gonna do b/c I would hate to be stuck in another 2 year contract and not have the phone that I'm gonna own for atleast half of that time.
I have the same question, but new phones will probably come out because my next upgrade is in September. I really hate big phones and it seems phones are getting bigger and bigger. I really like the nexus s design (A lot!) And I like stock android, so I think I might wait until the nexus s2 comes out. Hopefully it stays a bit close to the design of the nexus s.
Sense isn't that power hungry the reason why the thunderbolt sucks on battery life is because of the lte network. A custom sense rom usually has no data drops. Like the aosp roms do.
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Sense isn't that power hungry the reason why the thunderbolt sucks on battery life is because of the lte network. A custom sense rom usually has no data drops. Like the aosp roms do.
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Each one of my friends who had a sense phone who switched to a custom rom w/o sense batter life increased alot.
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It honestly sounds like the Galaxy S II is just right for you. I know you say you dont like touchwiz (believe me I hate it) but the TW 4.0 or whatever its called looks really nice. From what I have seen it looks better than sense ui. Anyways, there have been battles between the G2X and the Galaxy S II and hardware wise the GSII always has the upper hand with camera, performance, screen, colors, etc.. However there are many things to consider. Do we even know what US carrier (if any) will receive the GSII? Also coming from the vibrant I swore up and down I wouild never buy a samsung phone again. Their lack of software support was just unacceptable. Im not even talking upgrades, just basic bug fixes. Development for this phone NEVER gave us a fully functioning stock android or AOSP ROM. Sure CM7 made a lot of headway and may still come to the galaxy s with all the fixes but right now it still has bugs and some things just dont work.
To make a long story short, I got the G2X because I wanted a stock android experience with a lot of developer backing (specifically cyanogenmod) and the specs of the phone are pretty amazing. Now it sounds to me like media and camera are more important to you so you may feel more welcome by the Galaxy S II if you dont care about aftermarket roms and such.
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Thanks for your input. Also as a CFW PSP user and a Jailbroken iOS user, I like to have a combination of both dev support and media features, so I wouldn't want to leave that out. I'm surprised that only one person gave consideration to the sensation when I stated how it was the only UI I've ever used so far on android, and I read how it had an HRD camera with auto focus video so I thought most would assume that as the better choice, but my only problem with it is how its rumored to not have an unlocked bootloader. I think atm I will go with the g2x but I hope to hear about some alternatives to getting inline music controls to work.
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coming from a vibrant, i can say that screen on the g2x is actually better and it being a stock android updates come faster and custom roms will also. I can't wait for the cyanogen mod either. I had battery issues but after resetting my phone the battery works just fine. they all have similar processors but the g2x being stock will get you better performance. I am a photographer also and am creating a photo journal with the g2x and it does the job well. good luck
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Thank you very much! when I saw still photos on the G2X compared to the S II, I thought it looked inferior, but being able to make a photo journal out of it seems to counter that argument. BTW is it possible for the camera to get an update for auto focus video recording like the Galaxy S Vibrant did? For camera usage, that is the only thing pushing me back from the G2X as well as the support for multiple video formats (which I hear the Galaxy S II will have based on the Exynos processor). Hope to receive some additional feedback.
If you go bluetooth you can get inline music control. I personally have and like the plantronics backbeats and the sweatproof motorola S-10 HDs. The backbeats are more flexible and easier to wear, while the S-10s are must haves for working out and sports.
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If you go bluetooth you can get inline music control. I personally have and like the plantronics backbeats and the sweatproof motorola S-10 HDs. The backbeats are more flexible and easier to wear, while the S-10s are must haves for working out and sports.
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i hear a lot of mixed things about bluetooth headphones. even though the sound quality is great and the music controls work, I cannot always depend on headphones which need charging. Having to charge one device already is enough so i am more suited for wired inline in ear headphones.
jree said:
There is no doubt in my mind that the dev support will be there for the sgs2 but it will be greater on the g2x just b/c of all the vanillaness.
The weight of the galaxy line is extremely light but believe me when I say that it is extremely durable. My old cliq felt like a brick but the second time I dropped that it stopped working completely so weight and feel have nothing to do with durability.
My vibrant has pretty much been through the equivalent of back to back fights with Manny Pacquiao and Anderson Silva only to come out as the new peoples champ. If you can wait, I would say try to see what all 3 of them are like and whether or not they come to your carrier. Its what I'm gonna do b/c I would hate to be stuck in another 2 year contract and not have the phone that I'm gonna own for atleast half of that time.
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Well not voting for the SGS2 here but I don't think Vanilla has any bearings on Dev Support, directly. Granted, I prefer vanilla and thus may contribute to its popularity, which, indirectly, popularity = dev support.
The only thing that matters is that the bootloader is unlocked and it is easily rootable and flashable. I mean once you get a CM rom on there, they all work the same.
I think Vanilla roms are more open to other variants like MIUI and the likes because they typically share the same partition structure. I know the G2x has a different structure and I think it is safe to say the SGS2 does too. Good thing that we are able to format and change the partitions to work across multiple roms.
The SGS2 was recently rooted and I think they found the bootloader to be unlocked. So it should be able to be flashed pretty easily.
One big factor that more people don't think about is the screen size. I have small hands (vs huge sausages) and the 4" screen of the G2x pushes my comfort zone. I think 4.3" would be too much and I would be fumbling it while trying to do one handed operations.
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
Nothing like buying a new toy and finding that it doesn't work with the latest HD games.
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that is the only thing pushing me back from the G2X as well as the support for multiple video formats (which I hear the Galaxy S II will have based on the Exynos processor). Hope to receive some additional feedback.
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As far as multiple video formats, I don't think this has much to do with physical hardware as it does software. While I am most certainly not an expert, I have played a range of videos on my phones. Wouldn't all you need is a Video app that has the correct codecs and support for such file types?
I mean, really, not picking one device over another based on media format is just insane to me and defies all logic. I mean how easy is it to convert between formats, come on. I'd say that if you using a less common format or one that isn't widely available, you are only asking for trouble anyway. Most of the video I find online are either MP4 or avi and have no problem playing them on my device. If you are ripping it yourself, just save it in a format you can use.
This is a very good player, plays many formats
http://market.android.com/details?id=net.thefluxstudio.implayer
Player911:
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
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I'm quite surprised that the SGS2 folks have a buyers remorse, especially after reading your post. I was having remorse with the G2x since it just has 512MB ram and the GS2 kicks the G2x to the curb on every bullet point except Value for money/cost (I'm buying off contract). I'm also very surprised when you implicitly state that Orion cannot run Tegra games even though it's way faster than tegra.
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I'm quite surprised that the SGS2 folks have a buyers remorse, especially after reading your post. I was having remorse with the G2x since it just has 512MB ram and the GS2 kicks the G2x to the curb on every bullet point except Value for money/cost (I'm buying off contract). I'm also very surprised when you implicitly state that Orion cannot run Tegra games even though it's way faster than tegra.
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Dont just look at numbers (1ghz dual core vs 1.2 dual core) RAM numbers, etc.
It has been said the 1ghz Tegra 2 is a better processor overall, and you really dont need more than 512mb of RAM since Android closes apps on its own when memory gets low. You wont see much if any performance increase from merely more RAM.
Lets not forget Samsung's recent past with its Galaxy S line having broken GPS, wonky file systems that slowed down phones, and bootloaders locked.
I wouldnt just yet say the SGS2 is a better device because how it looks on paper.
>It has been said the 1ghz Tegra 2 is a better processor overall, and you really dont need more than 512mb of RAM since Android closes apps on its own when memory gets low. You wont see much if any performance increase from merely more RAM.
I'm not sure about that. Both use dual Cortex A9s. The difference in hardware between the two is the GPU. We all know Tegra 2 uses GeForce ULP but I'm not sure what the Exynos uses(SGX or Adreno).
I concede my point to your statement about the RAM, since I only recently learnt about memory management in Android (this is my first Android). I'm pretty sure Sammy must have fixed the GPS issues, since if they don't I'd lose all respect for them.
Oh OP, one thing you might want to consider is that the Galaxy S2 does not have an HDMI out port. They say it's got some USB-HDMI cable though.
Also, it depends on your hands. The G2x itself is a pretty big device in my opinion, and seeing that the SGS2 has a 4.3" screen it's going to be much bigger.
Definitely sgs2
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Well not voting for the SGS2 here but I don't think Vanilla has any bearings on Dev Support, directly. Granted, I prefer vanilla and thus may contribute to its popularity, which, indirectly, popularity = dev support.
The only thing that matters is that the bootloader is unlocked and it is easily rootable and flashable. I mean once you get a CM rom on there, they all work the same.
I think Vanilla roms are more open to other variants like MIUI and the likes because they typically share the same partition structure. I know the G2x has a different structure and I think it is safe to say the SGS2 does too. Good thing that we are able to format and change the partitions to work across multiple roms.
The SGS2 was recently rooted and I think they found the bootloader to be unlocked. So it should be able to be flashed pretty easily.
One big factor that more people don't think about is the screen size. I have small hands (vs huge sausages) and the 4" screen of the G2x pushes my comfort zone. I think 4.3" would be too much and I would be fumbling it while trying to do one handed operations.
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
Nothing like buying a new toy and finding that it doesn't work with the latest HD games.
As far as multiple video formats, I don't think this has much to do with physical hardware as it does software. While I am most certainly not an expert, I have played a range of videos on my phones. Wouldn't all you need is a Video app that has the correct codecs and support for such file types?
I mean, really, not picking one device over another based on media format is just insane to me and defies all logic. I mean how easy is it to convert between formats, come on. I'd say that if you using a less common format or one that isn't widely available, you are only asking for trouble anyway. Most of the video I find online are either MP4 or avi and have no problem playing them on my device. If you are ripping it yourself, just save it in a format you can use.
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Coming from iOS, I am tired of having to convert all of my videos to mp4 format and having little knowledge of android from not having owned one just increases my curiosity on the matter since the SGSII specs list stated that the Exynos processor has more support for video formats than tegra 2. Being able to directly download and play any format is one thing I am looking for in one of these phones so that is why I asked the question. Some of the videos I download are dual audio and subbed mkv's and having to download multiple programs to get the subtitles and audio working on a mobile device is very time consuming so having support for multiple codecs would make things a whole lot easier.
Which and why?
Sensation because it´s HTC
I have never used a Dual Core phone so is it MUCH faster? Is there like 0 lag in those phones? I remember my inspire couldnt play vids properly and they would lag.
I have the same question... Sensation or Galaxy S2? I'm running a T959 with Trigger, but it's time for an upgrade. Any input would be appreciated - especially comparison of speed, ease of rooting, and ease of installing custom ROMs. I use wireless tethering and GPS navigation a lot... so those 2 things are very important to me.
I really want this thread to get interesting so I'll post my two UK pennies.
I'm still deciding between these two phones. I've played with both in the shop and they're very different beasts.
The S2 is a stunning slab of a phone. It's ridiculously light and feels plasticy yet amazingly sturdy. The screen is superb. I'm coming from an AMOLED Desire (same screen as N1) and the screen is a huge step up. The WVGA res genuinely doesn't bother me in the slightest. Everything is big and clear and bright and gorgeous.
The Sensation feels a lot more solid in the hand. It's a more classy piece of hardware. It is considerably fatter and heavier than the S2 and feels like it could take some knocks. As someone who has used older versions of Sense quite a lot and not especially liked them, I found the Sensations's interface to be a big disappointment. Sense 3 felt just as slow and the earlier Sense version that ran on my Desire (before rooting/flashing). I'm sure it would be super slick with an AOSP rom. The screen is good but not a patch on the S2 IMO. The power button is impossible to reach with one hand - why HTC is still putting it on the top of the phone I have no idea.
So at this point I preferred the S2s screen (and camera by small margin from testing in the shop) and the Sensation's hardware.
In light of the court case I ordered an S2 and have now had it for 24hrs. With the exception of the lack of notification LED it's everything I'd hoped for. It's fast. Not iPhone smooth, but the closest I've seen in an Android device. Still running stock firmware.
Unlike the Sensation, it's not possible to replace the camera lens of the S2 without replacing the whole phone. The camera lens is not at all recessed and this this makes me nervous about putting it down on a flat surface. The S2 needs a case to protect it IMO whereas the HTC seems sufficiently tough to survive without one.
I'm still not 100% and still have a few days left to return the phone...
Does anyone else have experience with the two phones?
Thanks, bedeabc
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Exactly my thoughts.
The SGSII has a much better CPU and GPU than the sensation. I don't want to get technical, but Samsung's processor is better than HTC's. I would also suggest Samsung's GPU in the SGSII over Sensation. I have had Sense and Touchwiz and Sense is very slow and a memory hog, whereas Touchwiz is light. Both phones running AOSP would be great, but I feel that the SGSII is just better as far as internal hardware goes. HTC is better at updating their devices software wise, though.
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Sensation because it´s HTC
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Exactly my thoughts.
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Come on guys, that's lame. I too have more faith in HTC than I do Samsung but I bought the S2 because (albeit by a very small margin!) I believe that it's the better phone. That screen is just amazing. I already FAR prefer Touchwiz to any version of Sense. But obviously here I am on XDA so the root will happen tonight I hope!
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Right now i think the best phone at sale is the galaxy s ii. Ports will obviously be easier to make with the sensation, but talking about stock roms, the s2 is by far the best phone:
More free ram (not only because of 1gb of ram vs 768 but because of sense 3), and in my opinion has a better processor.
I'm not a samsung fanboy, there are tons of things i could say they've done wrong, but i think the s2 is better.
And by the way, even though the sensation feels more solid, i'm no longer deciding for a phone due to this, not only because of coversbut because my sgs has resisted many falls, even one 3m fall and it fell on a pool for 1-2 sec and survived, it didn't even turn off, so just because of this i can say that even though it doesn't feel resistant, it may resist more. I've tried none of this phones, and i can only give my point of view from what i've read and my experience.
I don't know if samsung will do the same with the s2, but the s1 has been updated from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.2.1 to 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4, much more updates than most phones have had, and there have been many improvements even though the s2 is out there and the sgs hasn't been forgotten.
Back to htc and sense, I can also say that sense is really good, but it consumes a lot of ram and may feel laggy, but on other htc phones i've seen with sense 2.1, it was really fluid and i really liked it, more than touchwiz.
There is no real way of comparing this two phones in a fair way unless they're running the same rom.
No matter which phone you choose out of these two, you are going to get an amazing phone.
The decision is yours, so think carefully about which phone you think is best for you
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I really want this thread to get interesting so I'll post my two UK pennies.
I'm still deciding between these two phones. I've played with both in the shop and they're very different beasts.
The S2 is a stunning slab of a phone. It's ridiculously light and feels plasticy yet amazingly sturdy. The screen is superb. I'm coming from an AMOLED Desire (same screen as N1) and the screen is a huge step up. The WVGA res genuinely doesn't bother me in the slightest. Everything is big and clear and bright and gorgeous.
The Sensation feels a lot more solid in the hand. It's a more classy piece of hardware. It is considerably fatter and heavier than the S2 and feels like it could take some knocks. As someone who has used older versions of Sense quite a lot and not especially liked them, I found the Sensations's interface to be a big disappointment. Sense 3 felt just as slow and the earlier Sense version that ran on my Desire (before rooting/flashing). I'm sure it would be super slick with an AOSP rom. The screen is good but not a patch on the S2 IMO. The power button is impossible to reach with one hand - why HTC is still putting it on the top of the phone I have no idea.
So at this point I preferred the S2s screen (and camera by small margin from testing in the shop) and the Sensation's hardware.
In light of the court case I ordered an S2 and have now had it for 24hrs. With the exception of the lack of notification LED it's everything I'd hoped for. It's fast. Not iPhone smooth, but the closest I've seen in an Android device. Still running stock firmware.
Unlike the Sensation, it's not possible to replace the camera lens of the S2 without replacing the whole phone. The camera lens is not at all recessed and this this makes me nervous about putting it down on a flat surface. The S2 needs a case to protect it IMO whereas the HTC seems sufficiently tough to survive without one.
I'm still not 100% and still have a few days left to return the phone...
Does anyone else have experience with the two phones?
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Yup, here's what I posted elsewhere:
I've got an O2 Sensation, colleague has a Vodafone SGS2
The sensation feels much stronger, she commented that her SGS2 felt like you could snap it if you weren't careful, and I have to agree, while you couldn't actually do that, it does feel like you could.
SGS2 is easier to hold though, the rounded smooth edges of the Sensation are just begging for it to slip and drop.
Not got a problem reaching the power button on the top of the Sensation even with my stubby fingers.
The speaker on my Sensation is much louder than her SGS2, she's complaining that she can't hear the SGS2 in her bag. I was surprised as to how quiet it was on max volume.
The SGS2 has a lovely screen, the Sensation has a very nice screen.
My Sensation has the landscape wifi issue losing a bar or 2 of signal. From what others have posted, the OTA update or a custom ROM can fix this rather than a warranty claim for a replacement back cover.
The lock screen on the Sensation is much more responsive and the ability to jump straight to certain apps from the defaul lock screen is great. She often has to swipe two or three times to unlock the SGS2 as she's not moving the lock screen image far enough.
Sensation has Sense 3, which for me wipes the floor with the SGS2 interface, I really don't get on with anything but Sense, however I know a lot of people don't like sense and prefer the stock Android interface.
Sensation has Trace keyboard. She's activated swype on her SGS2 to make typing easier as like me can't get on with the stock Android keyboard. Swype is much better at doing the job than Trace, but I prefer the HTC keyboard and type faster with my thumbs than with either Swype or Trace.
Don't know about battery life on her SGS2, but my Sensation is getting about a day out of it and that's with push mail on two accounts and a bit of browsing.
To be honest, the only thing that would make my Sensation perfect would be a replacement back panel with squarer sides and a better WIFI antenna.
If you try a Sensation and it isn't fast and smooth, then there's something wrong with it.
Likewise there could be something wrong with her phone with regards to the speaker not being as loud as mine.
They are both at the top of their league, and the decision will be down to which one suits your needs better.
If you're not sure, get it over the phone/web so you have 14 days to return it if you're not happy (in the UK that is)
Play with them as much as possible in shops, go to several shops too.
For Tmobile, is the Hercules going to be the S2, or am I just so retarded that I simply have no idea what I'm talking about? http://www.phonedog.com/2011/08/23/...-the-galaxy-s-ii-missed-its-window-in-the-us/
before i went to buy a phone
the best things were the sensation and the SGS2
i got the SGS2
1. i wanted a phone as smooth as the iphone in scrolling
2.very good flash player experience (HWA)
and from my knowledge the SGS2 is the only (partial) hardware accelerated phone out there the sensation is not as smooth as the sgs2 and not as powerful go watch some youtube vids out there
3.future proof (samsung gave free SGS2s to the CM team and currently we have nighties)
4.amoled screen (dont tell me about resolution what i want is the contrast that makes you think "is the phone on or is that my stupid black background pic"
+ colors are to die for
5.sturdy (this phone is solid as a rock if u try to twist it u wont hear a squeak at all its hard as a rock
cons with this phone
1.people who first got it experienced very bad battery life but after updates that issue went away for most people i can get 4 days with my phone
2.people get heating issue with their phones
but the heating issue was just a warm feeling for me near the camera lens
3.my biggest issue if you record video 720p and over (in doors ) the phone goes down to 10 fps for 2 seconds and then speeds up then speeds down etc - this issue is still not fixed - but out doors works perfectly
4.you can get finger prints on the screen if you dont have a screen protector
5. people are reporting volume issues when calling
you can fix this manually from what i understand (using a code)
6.there are a couple of high end games and emulators that have issues with the Samsung's powerful gpu
To be honest, using the two side by side, I noticed no difference between the smoothness of the two.
Didn't know that the SGS2 had hardware acceleration until today!
However, that's comparing UK phones. US phones appear to be borked by carriers as standard. No idea why, but there are more reports of slow phones from US carriers than UK ones, likewise with the amount of bloatware, US carriers (from what I've seen posted here) load phones up with it while in the UK (on O2 especially) they don't which is going to have an impact on performance.
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To be honest, using the two side by side, I noticed no difference between the smoothness of the two.
Didn't know that the SGS2 had hardware acceleration until today!
However, that's comparing UK phones. US phones appear to be borked by carriers as standard. No idea why, but there are more reports of slow phones from US carriers than UK ones, likewise with the amount of bloatware, US carriers (from what I've seen posted here) load phones up with it while in the UK (on O2 especially) they don't which is going to have an impact on performance.
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coudnt you notice it in the stock browser
Sensation hands down
I haven't had any experience with the Sensation, but 3 people I know have the S2 and I was playing with 1 earlier and I fell in love.
This prompted me to install 'droid on my Topaz.
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Sensation hands down
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Oh that settles it then. I'm running out right now to buy one. Thank you so much!
Sarcasm out.
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Sensation because it´s HTC
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sgsII has better hardware and better design too
I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Within two months, you will get bored of the touchwiz ui. But one x has sense and if you like it, with a little modifications, and with custom roms, you will never get bored of your phone
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I haven't held the S3 yet so I don't know how it looks/feels in the hand. The OneX feels solid and comfortable to me. I think the OneX with a Sense-less ICS ROM would be super fast and more enjoyable. I'm leaning that way with my decision.
My HTC Sensation with Virtuous Inquisition ROM has become a much better phone
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I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Go for the S3. Bigger development, cm9 from people who actually build from source themselves and i would trust my life in their hands so to speak. Codeworkx and Xplowild could not get any better and really wished they supported the One X but that is not going to happen, more AOSP and AOKP roms for the S3 and you probably get the best kernel developer i know and that Gokhanmoral as well...And the list goes on. One x might be better looking but you have so much more going for the S3 which is supercurio for one releasing his app for it specially with the better sound chip for it and well i can go on..
One X is a great phone with great potential..but with all the replacements i had and with their poor service and Quality Control have left a bad taste in my mouth and will never go for HTC again...Do not get me wrong development for this phone is only just getting started..But if you are a samsung boy and loved the development on the s2 then s3 is the place to be for you..just wished i waited a bit longer
But seriously my best advice to you..Wait a few more weeks. Watch videos and watch comparisons...And then make a judgement on yourself on what you need the phone for. Sense is ten times better than TW no doubt. But like i said take your time and do your research..And if you do go for the One X make sure you get a phone which is build like a gold phone..Make sure it is perfect and solid..Then you will not regret it
Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.
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Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.
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I agree I had a go on the one x saw sense and the shell and was like I want it! Glad I did as I dislike the look of the s3 not that it is ugly or anything hox just appeals to me more.
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I say its better even with Stock Rom
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Then get the one x. I'm very happy with mine no problems.
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The HOX looks far better, the bluey coloured SIII looks very cheap, and to me the proportions look wrong on the front - weird angle curves, and too much bezel at top and bottom.
AMOLED provides less than realistic colours, if its anything like the SII and youre used to a properly calibrated TV/PC Monitor you'll laugh.
Having had a pentile display phone before the One X (Droid 3) no matter what the PPI youre going to notice the Pentile matrix on font and icon edges if you have the screen relatively close to your face, like when you're reading it in bed or something. Minor niggle but it annoyed me. Reading on the One X is like reading a magazine, it looks printed on.
The only positive for me is the bigger battery, but in real world usage i.e. Web Browsing itll only offer you about 40 mins more according to GSM Arena due to the high draw of the AMOLED display on white. Video life is about 4 hours longer, though. Saying that, if you have time to watch a video you'd be in a situation where you could use HTC's small battery bank to see you through it on the one x and have battery left to play with on a flight or long outing (should have a car charger so incar use wouldn't be an issue).
Regarding the above, GSMArena's battery life tests are very unscientific. The One X's display is among the brightest, and far brighter than the SII (double brightness nearly) so if the SIII is the same, the battery life at similar brightness to the One X's default levels would be negligable in texting/browsing/everyday use, again, bar video playback.
There is also the element of standing from the crowd a little - the One X is in my opinion (and many reviewers) the best looking phone to date - It matters to me to enjoy looking at something I use so often, so it helps.
Custom ROMS will come as well, its a major device with global variants so CM9 support will come I'd assume.
As far as build goes, I have sent one back but only because I'm very picky and the screen gap on the left was a tiny bit too much for my liking but I'm pretty sure 75% of the people on the replacement threads have got OCD with the number of replacements theyre having, or they use their phones punishingly. I didnt have flicker after the latest OTA either. The flex is the major issue regarding build, but my Dad's iPhone has the same thing if you press on the edges of the screens, every phone has it.
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The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Im a fairly heavy user and the battery is great for me.
Streaming radio/and mp3 is all done with the companion core for example and with screen off the battery graph is basically flat even whilst streaming over HSPA for a good while.
I can get 4/4hr30 web browsing and if you think about it, you don't need any more than that - with any phone nowadays youre looking at an overnight charge really so it makes no odds whether that number is a bit less or a bit more.
The browser redraw is instantaneous, and looks good - the text fades and fades back as an effect rather than jerking all the text round like opera - you dont notice the time it takes.
Multitasking Fix This may be of great use - it was to me on my Droid 3 and I noticed weird settings posted on here in HTC's default Build.prop that explain IMO the memory Issues people are perceiving.
Multitasking can easily be fixed in build prop. Some of the default HTC settings baffle me. Or use RomToolbox by JRummy
Ive not rooted yet but on my D3 (512mb ram) I used dirty ratio 70% (HOX default is 0%....!) Dirty background 90% (Hox default is 30%) and vfs cache pressure 10. Hox default is 100. This makes android flush the cache less often, saving battery and eliminating stutter, keeps apps in background ram leaving you where you left off and doesn't negatively impact on battery life or degrade performance over time. I've no idea why the HOX's default settings are so aggressive - unless they thought users might get an errant app, leave it running and complain when they dont know why the battery is draining... kill OOM allocating task was also a yes.
On my Droid 3 with the above settings, I could infinitely multitask (VM Heap of 48mb - but on HOX you could easily double that for more tabs in browser etc) and my battery gained a perceived time of about an hour at least - maybe more, due to the apps always remaining open and CPU time not having to be used reopening them and redrawing the past state they were in because theyve been pushed out of RAM.
I researched the above for ages when I had my D3 (even with 512 ram Moto's settings were way less aggressive than HTC's are at default) and made sure they wouldn't cause lag over time, or loss of performance over time - as well as providing optimal battery life.
Finally!
If you're planning on keeping the phone for some time (I can't see much that can improve on this, heck I wouldnt have got rid of my D3 had i not bricked it!) HTC are very good with software updates, the best around on unbranded devices really. They've just listed devices to recieve ICS - and those included some devices that were 18 Months old with a single core processor. This would suggest to me the One X will not only get Jelly Bean, but probably the next iteration (Released end of summer/fall 2013 most likely), should the hardware requirements not change massively (although 1gb RAM and Quad Core looks pretty safe for 18 months IMO).
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The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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I myself am coming from a galaxy s. Not sure how much the amoled screen is worse than the s2 on the s1 in comparison. I do know,however, that this super LCD2 screen on my htc one x is a thing that's going to be difficult to leave should I ever have to decide between this phone or a super amoled phone in the future.
Browsing-wise: I think we are all going to end up using google chrome in the long run. With the updates it gets, i believe it's sooner or later going to be the browser everyone's going to replace their original browser with.
I personally use google chrome browser on my phone myself. It's much faster than other IMO. Especially loading time is amazing and super smooth.
Battery is debatable. Personally, I wish i could squeeze an hour more hour out of my phone. On a full use I easily hit the 3 hours mark screen on time(3h 10m~). Probably just like most One X owners. Depending on your phone usage though, it's safe to say that the battery life on the HTC One X on standy by is godlike Seen people go for 4 days.
The highest i have reached was 3 hours 31 minutes. I think i could have even exceeded that by now but i just don't bother anymore and plug the phone in before it depletes.
It gets me through a day with ease plus i don't know what htc is up to. As far as I know this phone still needs optimization(take what i say with a grain of salt on this part). As I have no idea if the battery is going to improve in future or not. Just my gut feeling tells me it is, but a gut feeling is just that, a gut feeling. I wish HTC would at least communicate with us users more. Really kind of disappointing on their part.
Oh well, this is the insight i'm capable of giving.
p.s: i'm not one of those users who had to send his phone in for multiple replacements. So yeah, i can understand the users who do suggest the S3 for alone that reason. Because we all just want a phone that functions and don't want to constantly have it replaced just to replace it again.
Good day!
Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.
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Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.
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Yeah! This is actually true as well. Considering the fact that SG3 has got more support. Or at least that's what I always read and i don't doubt it. Probably a customized rom for the gs3 will be running better than the one x's.
Other negatives for the HOX include quality control with the screen flex and squeeky noises at least thats what I get!
With s-on am currently locked down so am having to wait for the network provider to bring about all the fixes in the updates unless I use custom roms but then I can't change the radio etc due to s-on..... Would be great if the phone was cracked in that sense.
Also the soundchip is not that great, could be better.
Battery is bad for me due to being on older firmware so screen on time is about 2hrs and the battery is dead.....
Currently sent mine back to htc due to hardware issues.....
I would wait to see the SIII however i cant't see samsung moving away from using inferior plastic for the shell. This spoils everything.
Also, the cool software will be ported shortly therefore I can't see a reason for choosing the SIII over the HOX. It's all about feeling in the hand........
Sense is very beautiful! And i like the style of htc phones look like
I think i need to wait till S III is available near me and check it out how it feels. reviewers say it feels better than the HOX due to the curved edges...
Its a matter of choice. Both HTC and samsung stock UIs are horrible in my eyes. The main differentiating factor is the more powerful CPU in the galaxy s3, expandable memory and removable/better battery. Its downsides are the pentile display and cheap look.
Both will come with many custom ROMS so flashing a custom rom holds no advantage for the one X
If your getting the HTC ONE X over the Galaxy S3 get ready for some poor battery life
Don't know what you guys expect with battery life on the one x to be honest, I love my HOX , I can run it with several phone calls and texts, bit of browsing on here, read books daily and usually get a couple days out of the battery, yes, if you hammer it with games like riptide, then be prepared for it to eat battery, but I imagine that will be no different on any quad core phone
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Is there anyone on this thread who switched from an S2? I'm been running Task's AOKP ever since I opened my S2. I really want an S3 but don't have the cash right now and the One X is half the price. I've been looking at it a lot and am intrigued. I just want to get peoples' opinions overall about this phone.
The only reason I want to upgrade rather than wait is because my main mic is broken so I have to talk on speaker phone all the time... totally not worth it. It sucks. So can I get some honest opinions about this phone. What's good, what's bad? Should I get it or wait... why or why not.
THANKS!
Don't know about the GS3 and the One X, a couple other threads if you do a search.
In general, most seem to agree that the One X has a better screen and better physical design (casing/enclosure). S3 has 2 Gigs of RAM, which means better multitasking, and it also has more developer activity. Although the activity here is decent, and with some really great devs. Aside from that, they are similar devices in many ways (specs, screen size, camera). One X is an awesome phone. I can't give comparisons to the GS2 or GS3, but I can't think of any bad things about it.
...yes, I have used S2 also with Tasks AOKP, sold and went to One X. Played with S3, but HTCs screen is beauty and design is awesome...for me it all comes down to how much storage one will live with, maybe One X+ is option?
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I switched from an S2 i9100 about 6 weeks ago. This is my first HTC phone, and first non-Samsung phone.
Compared to the S2..
Pros:
-Faster CPU, smoother experience
-Much much better screen, brighter, better colours, sharper, less power hungry
-Overall better camera
-IMO, Sense is better designed and better looking than Touchwiz
-Better battery life on HSPA, while about the same on LTE (see my battery comparison)
-Battery life on wifi is great
Cons:
-Power button is in a god-awful position on the top of the phone, rather than the side
-Screen blacks are not as dark as AMOLED, but not a big deal
-Bezel is really wide, phone is wider
-A bit awkward to hold, and harder to use with one hand (if you have small hands)
-Bad low light camera shots
-Stock sense is really aggressive on memory management so less background apps can run
-S-ON, and bootloader is locked down (at least on AT&T). Unlockable with some effort
-Can takes a couple more steps to flash a rom on newer HBOOTs
As for CM10 support, it's a lot better than it was on S2 since there is zero Exynos support from Samsung. More things work properly. eg. auto screen brightness works properly. Less visual artifacts and oddities. Much better CM10 experience.
Overall, i don't miss the S2 at all. The screen is way better compared to all the AMOLEDs i've used in the past. It's a lot faster. Battery life is overall better. The Camera is a better. And i prefer CM10 over sense, so support is a lot better. About the only thing i really really miss from the S2 is the power button location on the side.
I don't own the S3 personally, but a friend has one and we've compared battery life with similar usage and i consistently get better battery life. We've come to the conclusion that the S3 AMOLED screen is power hungry.
Hope this helps.
I'm a former user of tasks AOKP as well. So far, I've had a great experience running rohan's aokp and king king ROMs. Sold my s2 because the low res, poor color rendering s2 couldn't match the screen of my iPhone 4. The one x screen, however, is the best screen I've used on any device, ever.
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I came from an S2 as well, only because my touch screen went bad in the center. Didn't start rooting until the One X, but it was an excellent decision. Best phone I've ever owned.
I went from S2>
to One X International, which broke and was replaced by HTC with>
One XL. I was pissed at first because the XL has half the cores, half the memory...but it has LTE which I didn't realize was active in my city until I got my new SIM card in the ATT store. After checking my data speeds I wasn't so pissed any more. I love the phone, my only gripe is the memory, doesn't take much music to fill it up. Other than that it's great.
Have you considered the One X+?
Thanks guys! Appreciate all the info. I've thought about the One X+ but don't really have the cash to drop $200 on a new phone atm. I was pushing it to get $100 for the One XL. I went ahead and pulled the trigger yesterday. I'm loving this phone so far, even just on stock. I'm about to start walking through the ridiculous rooting process and then I'll go to the official AOKP, King King or CM10.
andyondroid - Have you run anything besides CM10 on this phone? I'm wondering how it compares with AOKP and King King Roms.
phatalbert1000 - between the AOKP and King King which one do you prefer? Any specific reasons?
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Thanks guys! Appreciate all the info. I've thought about the One X+ but don't really have the cash to drop $200 on a new phone atm. I was pushing it to get $100 for the One XL. I went ahead and pulled the trigger yesterday. I'm loving this phone so far, even just on stock. I'm about to start walking through the ridiculous rooting process and then I'll go to the official AOKP, King King or CM10.
andyondroid - Have you run anything besides CM10 on this phone? I'm wondering how it compares with AOKP and King King Roms.
phatalbert1000 - between the AOKP and King King which one do you prefer? Any specific reasons?
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I only used AOKP for a couple days, so i can't really comment, but i didn't notice any major issues.
AOKP is great as is CM10. No major issues when I used them.
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Thanks guys! Appreciate all the info. I've thought about the One X+ but don't really have the cash to drop $200 on a new phone atm. I was pushing it to get $100 for the One XL. I went ahead and pulled the trigger yesterday. I'm loving this phone so far, even just on stock. I'm about to start walking through the ridiculous rooting process and then I'll go to the official AOKP, King King or CM10.
andyondroid - Have you run anything besides CM10 on this phone? I'm wondering how it compares with AOKP and King King Roms.
phatalbert1000 - between the AOKP and King King which one do you prefer? Any specific reasons?
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Use rebelmod! its liquidsmooth aokp paranoidandroid and cm10 :laugh:
I came over from i9100 too. Rebel mod is the coolest ROM, but not stable yet, IMO. aokp works perfectly, and king Kang is pretty much identical to aokp for performance, if not better, and it also includes paranoid androids per app DPI settings. I run king Kang cause its the best stability vs options. Cm10 is the most stable from what I've found. By a pretty big margin.
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You made the right choice. I used an S3 for awhile and then switched to this just to try it out. I can't stay on an AMOLED screen. The colors are horrible. There is no white color on an S3. The 2GB of ram does make a bit of a difference, but the screen and build quality more than make up for it. And it's not like the HOX is slow. Once they get the kernel refined and some of the awesome enhancements out, this phone will really fly.
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My wife has the s3, I have a rooted 1.85 one x... The s3 is a nice piece for sure, but really side by side, my screen blows hers away like a at4 used to assassinate a chipmunk, one x screen wins.. camera also wins, hands down, stock to stock the s3 is faster not much, rooted onex on tn se, beastmode kernal over clocked and under vltd smokes a stock s3 like cheech and chong sharin a spliff first thing in the am... I can't speak for a rooted and molested s3 as I've not been intriguied nuff by it to start fiddling, plua I hate how it feels in my hand and did I mention the screen? Nice piece again but not for me.. if you're go.na root and flash stuff is say go onex, if you're happy with a sticker go sg3.. jus my 2 pennies but I'm a complete lunatic.. XOXO..
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I'm not just saying this because I have a Onex.. my buddy has a gs3 running task and ktoonsez rom and kernal at 2.1 ghz.. I'm running dirty rom and rohans build 5 kernel OC to 1.99 ghz... we get same benchmarks, but mine absolutely blows his away.. in and out of apps, browser speeds, etc.. CONSISTANTLY.
and I know someone will say "maybe his phone don't like running @2.1... we've tried all CPU speeds and governors, ROMs and launchers.. he's always behind, and actually starting asking his old lady to trade her for her OneX
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I'm fully rooted and running AOKP. I'm loving it. I might try king kang but not sure what I would actually use in terms of the DPI and other extras.
So far I'm LOVING this phone. I may flash build 5 of rohan's kernel tomorrow and see how it feels
Came from the GS II on Tasks AOKP.
I have a Note II in the mail.
I found the CM10 and AOKP too buggy for me. Check the OPs for the issues. Wake locks and screen bugs were too much for me. Its a dual edged sword, the sense based ROMs get great battery life, smooth and stable operation, great camera software, and decent customization. But, multi-tasking is awful, just terr-e-bull, compared to the S II. On the AOSP ROMs you get bugs and less battery life, but multi-tasking works. I keep trying them but come back to ViperXL.
At the end of the day I am going back to Samsung for TouchWiz. I want the kitschy stuff like pop up play, smart stay, side by side apps, S Beam, and all the S Pen stuff. I won't be running anything that isn't TouchWiz based on the Note. Plus I want a MicroSD slot and a screen that doesn't scratch so easy.
That's just my $0.02. If you ask in this forum which is best you will get an overwhelming response the One X is better. If you ask in the S III forum you will find plenty of people that came from the One X. Heck, even the Atrix HD has a devout following.
Or, there is door number three, the S II is like silly crazy easy to disassemble, and a new mic is only $20...
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271041888939
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I found the CM10 and AOKP too buggy for me. Check the OPs for the issues. Wake locks and screen bugs were too much for me. Its a dual edged sword, the sense based ROMs get great battery life, smooth and stable operation, great camera software, and decent customization. But, multi-tasking is awful, just terr-e-bull, compared to the S II. On the AOSP ROMs you get bugs and less battery life, but multi-tasking works. I keep trying them but come back to ViperXL.
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I have not found any major problems with battery drain or wakelocks on AOSP roms, so either it's different on different phones(not likely) or it's user error(very likely). Which apps you have on your phone and how they are coded has a huge effect on your phone's battery.
With the official FB app, with gps on, I got about 12 hrs.
With the official FB app and gps off, I got about 14.
With no official FB app and GPS on, I tend to get about 16-20 now.
not just the fb app is important, but for the sake of example that's one I've noticed a lot.
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Or, there is door number three, the S II is like silly crazy easy to disassemble, and a new mic is only $20...
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271041888939
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Well I think my 12 year old either killed my usb port or my battery. He wanted to play some games on it but the battery was dead. I told him to charge it for a while but instead he just plugged it in while he played on it. At some point the batter drain was more than the battery was charging and it died. Now it won't charge. If I plug it in, the backlights flash and the battery charging animation flashes once and goes off. Meh. I still might fix the S2 just so I can turn around and sell it but meh.
So far I haven't noticed any terrible battery drain issues yet. I might end up trying some sense based ROMs but I'm not a big fan of all the sense stuff. I really love AOKP so we'll see if I get sucked into something different or not lol.
I really love AOKP, and gave it many tries (and CM10), I really wanted it to work. One time I tried with no FaceBook or Maps installed, and I still had about half the battery life I get on sense based ROMs. I just didn't have the patience to keep up with it. And everything about customizing that I was used to in AOKP is there in ViperXL in some form.
Not trying to get into which ROM is better or insulting the intelligence of others here by saying issues are their own fault. Just stating my observation for the same transition that I completed just last month.
I remember seeing people have luck charging a completely dead phone using USB on a computer at the smaller amperage. Give that a try. Don't discount a jig either.
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So im officially done with this phone. and i need some advice on which phone to switch to.
Nexus 4 or the Galaxy Nexus. I've been hearing bad things about the nexus 4 so i'm hesitant to get it. what do u guys think?
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So im officially done with this phone. and i need some advice on which phone to switch to.
Nexus 4 or the Galaxy Nexus. I've been hearing bad things about the nexus 4 so i'm hesitant to get it. what do u guys think?
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I had an option to buy the Gnex or the One S. I chose this device simply because its much more powerful than the Gnex. Gnex uses quite an old chipset compared to the 28nm S4 Krait in the One S.
Nexus 4 is a real upgrade from the One S... But yes, it does have loads of issues. Cracking glass, yellow tint on screen after device heating up, and loads of such complaints. I'd prefer you wait a few months until good devices are released. MWC 2013 is just a month away..
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Wait for the gs4 or get an gs3. Bout to trade my one s for a gs3
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If I were to swtich device - which Im not, I love the S, I would only trade it for a padfone2, because I love the idea of having a phone/tablet combined.
No point switching to either of them IMHO.
Nexus 4 - more of a side step
GN - downgrade overall
The one S camera is far better than both in every area.
Audio is more or less the same for the nexus 4 and one S.
Screen is personal preference:
SAMOLED:
blacks are black, vibrant/saturated colours, infinite contrast ratio
not as good whites, bit pixelated when you look closely, not as sharp on the whole
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SLCD/IPS
natural colours, better whites, sharper and clearer on the whole
Poor black levels (but then again every LCD is poor when compared to sAMOLED), some people report that there nexus 4 display is too washed out compared to other LCD screens like the one X
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And of course the larger screen of the N4 is an advantage as well as more screen real estate due to the higher res.
The hardware in the N4 is better than the one S, however, with JB and S4 chipsets in real world usage I doubt you will notice much, if any difference. My one S feels faster/snappier/more responsive than a GS 3, note II (exynos powered devices), all running with JB in real world usage (not a huge difference but noticeable enough). The multi-tasking will be much better though due to stock android and 2GB RAM though. Haven't used a Nexus 4 yet.
The NLED on the N4 will be far better too.
Looks are subjective.
Build/perceived quality are more or less the same, think an aluminium uni-body is better than glass back and front though.
Software subjective.
Too hard to say about battery life, the nexus 4 in theory should be much better but due to poor software/driver optimisation it isn't as good as the one S and you will be able to buy the 2040mAh from the X+ battery for the S at some point... You can get good battery life from the N4 but you need to switch stuff and tweak it or better yet flash a custom kernel.
Also, the N4 doesn't support USB OTG.
Unless you badly want a stock android nexus device or/and don't want to spend much, I would wait for the next lot of phones or at least until the Sony xperia Z or get the HTC DNA.
Personally, I would wait to see what's going to be announced in the next month...
I have both the One S and the Galaxy Nexus, and the One S is better than the Gnex in everything except NFC, screen resolution and the fact that the Gnex has vanilla android.
The build, battery life, screen colors, camera, download speeds, and processing speeds are all better with the One S.
This is my first HTC device and im not gonna lie the cam is amazing but i hate sense. I thought i could live with it but after 6months with this phone im sick of it.
I've used an s3 recently and touchwiz is def weird and im sure in 6months time ill be sick of it too.
I just really want vanilla android and updates on time. Now that im looking around it seems like it will be cheaper to get a new n4 than buying a SGN.... ugh.. the n4 just seems like a device that will crap out on me.. too many issues right after release.
If you want stock android and more timely updates and since you're rooted etc. already then why don't you flash CM or some other jellybean ROM based on stock android?
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If you want stock android and more timely updates and since you're rooted etc. already then why don't you flash CM or some other jellybean ROM based on stock android?
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Cuz they are buggy and don't work reason i'm usually running a PA build from Nov (which is hella buggy but is the only cm based rom that has working bluetooth) or a sense based rom. right now running jb+ but prob gonna flash viper 2.0 since it finally came out.
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Cuz they are buggy and don't work reason i'm usually running a PA build from Nov (which is hella buggy but is the only cm based rom that has working bluetooth) or a sense based rom. right now running jb+ but prob gonna flash viper 2.0 since it finally came out.
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I'm running latest CM10 nightly and everything but tether works for me. Thing flys and no issues with BT at all
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Switching from One S to Galaxy Nexus is a major downgrade. You'd have to be nuts to make this move.
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I had an option to buy the Gnex or the One S. I chose this device simply because its much more powerful than the Gnex. Gnex uses quite an old chipset compared to the 28nm S4 Krait in the One S.
Nexus 4 is a real upgrade from the One S... But yes, it does have loads of issues. Cracking glass, yellow tint on screen after device heating up, and loads of such complaints. I'd prefer you wait a few months until good devices are released. MWC 2013 is just a month away..
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Same here; I was in my provider's store to get the Gnex but then saw the One S
I compared the specs and I was impressed with the One S
Plus, I prefer the size of the One S to the Gnex's.
i have owned the nexus and one s. Personally, I always go back to one s beause it's smaller, slimmer which makes it easier to carry around. i felt One S screen is also better than Nexus (though I do love Nexus's bigger screen and higher res, the only thing I really like about nexus). For the performance, i felt one S is faster in every way despite hte sense overlay. This is most likely due to the newer CPU. Of course this is comparing the One S vs Galaxy nexus. With Nexus 4, you should get better screen, higher res, better performance and pure android experience.
GS3 is also a good upgrade. While you are not getting better CPU, you do get better screen and RAM, which I think makes more impact in the performance than CPU. The only issue I have with samsung phone in general is that after using One S, I am spoiled with the build quality where I think One S is simply way much better in the overall design than Samsung.
I think if software is your thing, then nexus 4 is the better upgrade than Nexus.
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I think if software is your thing, then nexus 4 is the better upgrade than Nexus.
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The funny thing is build quality was one of the main reasons i got this phone. Hell i've dropped it 100+ times by now and it only has a few scuff marks around the charging port and edges. Screens in tip top shape no scratches or cracks. i make fun of iphone users cuz they drop their phones once and they shatter lol.
Well i would order my self a nexus 4 cept googles out of stock. guess ill play the waiting game
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Switching from One S to Galaxy Nexus is a major downgrade. You'd have to be nuts to make this move.
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Well to be honest the only part of that switch im not too sure about is the fact the SGN doesnt have 42+. I'm a power data user. (37GB last month WOOO going for 50 this month!!!) So for the majority of the time when i am using my phone i am either tethering, streaming music to my car stereo via bluetooth, checking emails, surfing xda ect.....
Stick with your One S.
I also was deciding between Gnex and One S and there was just one answer: One S, it's better in all aspects: Hardware internals , Build quality, Camera... it just smokes Gnex. Only upside is stock android, but there are downsides as well... htc provides more features than stock android.
Why would you change Aluminium One S for a Plastic S3? Not so much of a difference in daily use (performance wise). Some difference in benchmarks (Krait is a very good architecture).
N4 it a bit more stylish but besides stock android and having the latest software (which is kinds huge) It's a bit dissapointing... falls behind Optimus G which is virtually the same phone, i don't know how it's possible, have some issues and, while the glass looks very premium, you're taking a big risk with it...
Conclusion: One S it may not be the best phone out there, but I think it's the best choice
Well, I'd say go for the Nexus 4 but don't be disappointed about battery life that's even shorter than your one s'.
It's impossible to has a perfect phone, really every android phone have problems here and there, sadly. If you understand this fact, you will know that only change your phone when you very disappoint it. Get a new phone usually will solve some existing issues but on the other hand, it will also introduces new problems.
Nexus4 get the best updates but got some trouble on hardware side. BTW, N5 is already leaking news.
I personally will stick with One S for a while because the hardware isn't outdated yet, only the screen isn't as good as others. Moreover, I prefer small phone. All new phones are now just too big, gonna wait for some smaller phones to out.
HTC JB is better than Sony and Samsung in my experiences. Samsung JB on SGS3/Note2 is just a mess, I got some friends using them. It won't as good as Nexus, never, but already second the best.
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Cuz they are buggy and don't work reason i'm usually running a PA build from Nov (which is hella buggy but is the only cm based rom that has working bluetooth) or a sense based rom. right now running jb+ but prob gonna flash viper 2.0 since it finally came out.
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Gs iii has some solid cm and such very little if any noticeable bugs. Also have you tried using a different launcher? I mean sense can be a pain but if it's just the notifications and the settings menu I can imagine it affecting you too heavily to switch phones. Just my opinion
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