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Hey guys, would you recommend the HTC G1 or the Touch Pro? I already have the G1 but am about to get the AT&T Fuze and am wondering which one I should keep? I really really like the G1's screen and it's legibility in sunlight and capacitive touch screen. But what I like about the Touch Pro is the TV output and Windows Mobile OS. I also have a Tilt that I am trying to get rid of but still keep because of the GPS. I have iGuidance 4 nav software for Windows Mobile but there doesn't appear to be any nav software for the G1 that is not based on data yet. What should I do?
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Hey guys, would you recommend the HTC G1 or the Touch Pro? I already have the G1 but am about to get the AT&T Fuze and am wondering which one I should keep? I really really like the G1's screen and it's legibility in sunlight and capacitive touch screen. But what I like about the Touch Pro is the TV output and Windows Mobile OS. I also have a Tilt that I am trying to get rid of but still keep because of the GPS. I have iGuidance 4 nav software for Windows Mobile but there doesn't appear to be any nav software for the G1 that is not based on data yet. What should I do?
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Fuze has better build quality, winmo, pressure sensitive screen... G1 has the opposite of those, take your pick. I prefer Android myself, so I'm waiting for a phone to come to AT&T with it, but the Fuze is a damn good device.
G1 Or Touch Pro
lets see, they both have their pro's and cons, but if it were me I would go with the touch pro, owning a kaiser and g1 I would have to say they both have their pros and con's but, android is still in its infancy as it is, and even though its an awesome OS its not really as robust as I would like to be... so that didn't help at all so let me break it down the way I see it
HTC Touch Pro
Pro's: (No Pun Intended)
windows mobile 6.1 OS is well developed
more ram and rom, arguably running faster
vga resolution screen
Cons:
no capitavie screen like you mentioned
washes out in sunlight again like you mentioned
not as crash free as android
little more pricey
G1
Pro's:
android os almost crash free
very simplified os no frills
can see in sunlight
capative screen
Con's
few customization options
slower less ram (subjective the android os doesn't need nearly as much resources as winmo)
qvga resolution screen
Sorry if it sounds one sided, but to me the touch pro definitly has the edge up for now because it has the OS that is matured as it is and seems to have the most dev support, personnaly myself, owning the afore mentioned machines, they both definity have their ups and down's I will like wise soon be upgrading to the touch pro, but I will not be throwing my g1 out because in a year or two in my opinion the android platform could very well bypass and clean house with the windows mobile os... so yeah my 2 yen on the subject hope that helps.... (sorry about the bad sp I just switched over to the google chrome browser and I haven't quite got the spell check figured out yet)
Hahaha I agree with all but 1 thing... Did you really say "few customization options" when talking about an open source OS? In WinMo everything has to be skinned or covered up, in Android you'll be able to dig deep, rip its heart out and change the things you don't like. Maybe fewer customizations NOW, but I don't plan on upgrading phones every 6 months (although I do anyways).
toche toche very true, I should have said currently few customizations, but you are correct in the future there will be no chance of survival....
Yeah even though Android is still in it's infancy, I have a good feeling that it is going to mature real quick and hopefully be really nice and I really want to stick around for that. I am so torn between the two. I really want GPS NAV because I got lost alot, however I also use my phone a lot outdoors so screen visibility is a concern. Tmobile's 3G band used to be a concern but not so much anymore because they don't allow the use of the Tzones $6 a month plan anymore so I don't really care if I have to stick with EDGE. The glass capacitive touch screen is just so nice. Oh man decisions decisions. Price is not too much of a concern because I have a friend who is willing to sell me a Fuze for practically the same price as the G1.
Then why not get both ;P they are both definitely awesome phones, ulitmatly, I think in the end you will be happy with either or, It just depends ultimately how long your willing to wait..
Hahah, I wish I could keep both, I plan on selling one to use the money to buy a phone for my sister or dad. Dad has been using crappy phones ever since I can remember and I kind of just want to give him something nice to use, even though he will probably beat it up badly.
Hi all,
Currently I am using the Tilt and have been since it came out. I have always had problems with it and the latest is that I can not close the keyboard without losing service. I would really like to upgrade to something nicer even though the Tilt does meet most of my needs. That kinda makes me feel bad for wanting a new phone but I have had this one for a while soo....
Also my sister needs a phone as well. We were looking a lot at the Touch Pros from At&t because we are in a contract with them. But we don't really want to use our upgrades because we don't want to renew our contract at the moment. I am not sure what my family is doing regarding to our phone situation in the future. Also I don't like that the Touch Pro still has the same size screen as the Tilt. But we would upgrade the contract if it is worth it I guess.
I would really like to have a phone with a larger screen. I have a Nokia 770 which is great but I don't carry it all the time. This led me to look at the Nokia 5800...it has a really nice large screen which would be great for web browsing, which is what I do a lot. It will also let me type landscape which I like as well. But I would miss the all the programs from windows mobile. Especially Skyfire.
I also looked at the iphone and I love the screen for it, it is very large and I like how smooth everything is. But the new update doesn't come out for a few months. And by that time, the Touch Pro 2 and Nokia 97 will be coming out. Those are two other options which would require me to wait.
A friend of mine just got the Samsung Omnia and it has a larger screen than the Tilt and runs windows mobile. Is that a good choice for me? It has a larger screen than the Tilt but not as large as the iphone/5800/97/touch pro 2..so it would be an upgrade but not the largest. I just want a screen that would make internet browsing a pleasure and I don't want to buy a phone now and then wish I would have waited a few more months. I just am kinda tired of caring this huge phone around now with its tiny little screen.
Any suggestions on what to do? It looks like the Omnia is still expensive and costs about the same as the 97 and touch pro 2 would if they are picked up by a carrier. Even though the Omnia is older..or should I just wait? Or I could buy the phone now and sell it for some money back if I end up drooling over the phones coming out soon. Basically web browsing and texting are my main concerns. The iphone doesn't do flash like Skyfire does so that rules it out till it can handle it..
Thanks!!
Edit: Not even sure if the Omnia can be used on at&t. Looking into that now.
sounds like you want a touch hd.
Why don't you wait longer
Like me,
I am out of contract for the first time since my first handset in 1993 and have decided to wait. until the summer (if I can) as there will be even more choice.
I've read Touch Pro 2 for Verizon is supposed to be released in May09.
So another Month and half I must wait to get my new phone!!
Not sure if verizon will carry the diamond2, but that phone is also suppose to hit the U.S. the same time!!
I am just wondering if Palm stops manufacturing WinMo devices like Treo Pro what are our other options?
We all love Treo Pro as I dont see any other device which gives us a qwerty keyboard which is always out, palm shortcuts, which runs WinMo PROFESSIONAL. This is the biggest advantage as if we see we will find that other devices which are like Pro run WinMo STANDARD which is non touch (HTC snap etc.)
So Treo Pro is the best of both worlds. Please suggest if there is any other device which is like Treo Pro and also touch screen. This is important as we needs to see where we go after Treo Pro....
In simpler words I need to know if there is another device which is like Treo Pro? Which should run WinMo Professional with QWERTY. I love the customisation capability of WinMo (try SPB Diary to replace your home screen and see). The best part is QWERTY keyboard (which is always there, you dont have to slide it out etc which actually makes is useless) and the touch screen. No other phone has it. Its the best phone and I am sad that Palm may not make it anymore. Other devices are more fun then productive. I cant see one device inclusing iPhone which can really compare snapshot view of SPB Diary on WinMo device. If you are a serious life organiser you will understand it.
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Samsung Epix/Saga meet your requirements.
thanks dude! I took a note of that. Unfortunately, these are not available in India.
IIRC hp will be coming out with a QWERTY bar called iPAQ K3 however I think it is 240x320
thanks i have added it to the list. SO, we have now 3 phones which may be like treo pro. Although, I know I will miss the Palm shortcuts. Infact, WinMo is usable as a phone only in the formfactor of treo pro.
Another one is the Samsung SGH-i780 I think it is the EPIX/Saga counterpart for EU & Asia. However it too has been EOL'd.
I am keeping my GTP until it conks out and might get a Samsung Omnia Pro B7320 (it's QWERTY bar but is only WM Standard 6.1 with free update to 6.5)
thanks bnycastro!
I wonder why they create qwerty winmo with standard? Why cant they make it professional?
the Sprint Samsung Intrepid announced yesterday looks like it runs 6.5 Professional. It comes out this sunday so we should know alot more on it soon.
thanks jimmy
that samsung looks a lot like a blackjack.
the palm pro is where its at. by far the best treo ever, screw the pre with its 'you can't do crap to it' operating system. i plan on keeping my treo pro until sprint kicks me off my $30 sero plan.
you are right! Infact, I love it so much that I have bought one more so that i can still have it after the first one reaches its end of life, which however will be very long as i keep it in a protective cover all the time.
Its the last of a rare endangered specie, lol .
i very well might do the same thing. i dont want to spend more then $100 on a spare though, and problem is these very well MIGHT become collector items before they hit garage-sale prices. i could easily see these phones actually increasing in price forever more....
im sure sprint will have enough stock to replace it for the next couple years though. i pay that stupid insurance, so i should get a replacement pro if i ever need it. and since theyre still selling them i wouldnt doubt theyre still making a few somewhere... but when they do run out of stock, ill make them replace it with a touch pro 2
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Resinis, you are right but the problem with touch pro2 is that it is NOT a 'always out keyboard'.
I think the only reson of having a PDA as a phone (which makes it useable at all) is a device like Treo Pro which makes it more user friendly than a Nokia. I like the size and the immesnse customisation capability that it gives me. It takes care of everything that I need. Organiser, phone, GPS navigation etc etc etc. But when i depend so much on it and then they stop manufacturing it then it is a serious problem as I manage my life with it.
Hi all.
In a akward position, im limited in money and I own a Omnia 7 proven to not work with my carrier. Im on no contract for this phone, this is my second Omnia i'm now giving up on, im returning it after maaaany failuers from Samsung.
Also a friend have the LG Optimus 7 and its working great, but the SD card compared to NAND memory is visible and the screen is no good and compared to Omnia screen, not very exact on screen positions (i type i and keep getting u, and i can misstype the same letter like 4 times on a row. No, the LG are to sliw and to sheply made phone.
Now the hard thing being limited on money is knowing (and gets confirmed to some degree) they will now charge almost the double and that i cant afford.
I love big screens and looked at HD7 and while it seems to me to be the only solid working phone compared, it's not equiped with compass, the screen have got many talking(never seen it myself) And then its the Venue Pro, right screen, but it seems to be just as bothersome as Omnia 7 with buggs and errors Samsung is giving up on trying to fix. Also noted in DVP forum is that the camera is horrible compared to some WP7 models and no anti-shake!? DVP seems to have the compass etc that mango is opening up for thou. And changing SD card seems to be easy (need at least 16GB minimum and only 8GB availble here)
So what can i do, im about to give up on great hardware that no other WP phone can match (the speed of the NAND memory is visible compared to th LG phone at least) and move on to ... Nothing? Pricing on the new WP seems to get high and im about to become phone less. Im left betrayed by Samsung and will NEVER ever again rekomend there products.
HD7 and DVP is the only screen sizes i would use ... i feel lost.
So any HD7 and DVP owners that can give a helping advice to clear my foggy brain? I can't decide ... plz help.
HTC 7 Mozart, End of discussion best phone I have ever had and will be buying it bakc agian can handle any other phone.
The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
dstyl said:
The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
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Lovly, but a lot looks nice on paper. And the reality is diffrent. They must have messed up the rest. Its like, i got 650 bhp in my car but only one one gear that takes me max to 50 Kmph (30mph?) No good race car there since its kind of crippled.
Note: darn its fun to do funny comparisons. Heres one free.
Buying a Samsung Omnia 7 is the same experience as buying a new luxury sportscar, only to find they forgott to deliver a complete car, and all you get is the chassi.
What issue do you have with Omnia 7 and your wireless provider?
Also, LG Optimus 7 actually uses NAND. HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro uses microSD.
yeh , htc show two new phone s just a moment,you know?\
day2die said:
What issue do you have with Omnia 7 and your wireless provider?
Also, LG Optimus 7 actually uses NAND. HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro uses microSD.
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Random call gets muted, cant hear the the other, thou call is clearly connected. Also a random issue is that voices gets throu but gives a robotic voice to us calling so nobody can hear the other. This can happen 10 calls in a row.
Internet speed is sloooow most of the times. This is the only phone in our COUNTRY reporting this issue and never experienced anything like it. Add to that that there trying to cover it up. Oh the story is looong and i seriously dont want to hear the name Samsung in my preasence. Everything the done up till now is setting a example of how to NOT treat there customers. So while being a MS fan, and still beliving in the more the merryer, i still would be happy if they went out of bussniess, they clearly showed me they have nothing to do in it ... to not explode of anger thinking about the .....
Change of topic... My friend broke his screen on his Optimus 7 (told him but did he listen? nooo Clearly a SD card installed so maybe there diff versions out?
And new topic again.
Yeah, saw the new HTac devices and also expected pricing. I would not use a phone with smaller screen then 4', and that is stretching it. So even if the screen mqy be bad, its a solid device and a obvious choise. But the price ... i bought my Omnia on a special price and therefore when money gets back, it wount be enough. All i get is like... oh, dont know dollar from top of my head, but it wont be enough thou. :'(
DVP is a fantastic phone. Get a T-Mo or unbranded version so you can get the latest firmware. I have *no* glitches/bugs at all, it is rock solid.
The only issue is that the camera is not great, but with Mango you can tweak settings and save them persistently, which mitigates this a lot.
I have a DVP and mine is rock solid too. The recent firmware update has resolved the crashing with Wifi. In the old firmware, the microSD card and Wifi were using the same DMA channel, so conflicting.
Of course, it's always possible to get a bad handset, so if you get a DVP wait until you're sure it's stable before swapping out the microSD card. Dell will void your warranty if they notice that you have removed the black tape covering the microSD slot.
The DVP is relatively thick / heavy compared to the Omnia 7 because it has a very good hardware keyboard. If you want a keyboard, the DVP is a great phone! As you mention, the camera is not the best, although better with Mango.
Shame you can't afford the Mango generation devices!
So the issuess with DVP camera is not so much the quality of pic´s as the actuall funkctions of it that will get fixed then?
Thnx for your replyes, and thickness isn´t that of a issue. The Omnia 7 had nice hardware, that what draw me in as the main thing. And i like the picture quality.
And yeah, shame on my economy holding back for a Titan, it spells everything i wanted exept maybe the screen. One you go Omnia 7 black you neverwant to go back =)
Id go with an HTC phone in general. Been using the brand along time, about 6 years. I personally have an HD7 and Id say its a pretty solid phone.
As far as the compass goes there is one available through HTC hub in HTC apps.
Not that Im biased but HTC has been around along time and has proven quality. Look at Samsung troubles with there first wp7 update. Thats after I had heard that samsung doesnt update there drivers like HTC does.
Id go with an HD7 again. Even the new phones arent that much of an upgrade from the HD7. Im waiting a few months to see if HTC comes out with anything better. AMOLED screens being one, dual core processors. Now thats an upgrade.
Not to mention easy chevron unlock and HSPL for the HD7.
I like the heft of my HTC. Really "feels" like superior build quality.
Intressting notes on HD7 thnx.
I also am a long time user of hTC, my last being the HD2. Now hTC have had a lot of bad software work in past but on the WP7 devices the way hTC works seems to fitt the new OS like a glove.
The screen quality + the bad software made me give Samsung a chance. While they never have had good rep on there phones, the shown dedication on Android devices during 2010 gave me confidence that they would not repeat past mistakes, they have once again confirmed they have nothing to do in the mobile market. And IF you have a working Samsung phone, pray to the all mighty you dont need to seek there help, cuz you will get the worst customer support i ever experienced.
Im itchy for a hTC device again, but looking att Dell im curious, allthou i should by now for my own peace of mind settle for a devi e proven stabile. Only screens and the real GEO services that made me a bit carfull on HD7. And concerning screens, what is it with hTC and good screens!?
mm, HD7 or DVP, seems you guys are giving what i was scared of, very good and solid points.
Still have some time since its taking its sweet time sorting paperwork.
The point about the DVP camera is that it's poor quality, especially in low light. The flash is totally in adequate and can result in a yellow banding effect because there's a covering over it that tints the light it emits.
On Mango you can tweak the camera settings similarly to how it worked before Mango, *BUT* you can finally persist the settings. There are some settings like sports mode and futzing with the ISO etc that make it better.
Also, Mango has the ability to take a photo when the screen is tapped, which helps keep the phone still and minimizes blurry shots -- before this I found it nearly impossible to get a clear pic at all.
So, now it's "*barely* passable" instead of "utterly horrible."
I think the DVP is the best WP7 device out there (until the Mango ones come out, I guess).
I've got the HD7 and it's a great device. Love the big screen and the cool design The kickstand is also a nice feature to have. You can't really make out a difference between MicroSD and NAND when it comes to everyday usage. NAND may be faster but you won't notice the difference. I'm really happy with it and I'd never sell it (well - maybe for a Windows Phone 7 phone with dualcore processor, front cam and Tango or Apollo on it ). And a compass is available via Marketplace (HTC only). HTC will also release HTC Watch and HTC Locations for WP7 and the HTC Hub will get a major update.
So...Take the HD7, maybe put the Mango RTM on it and you'll be as happy as a little kid
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The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Optimus_7 It's the QSD8650, which is basically exactly the same as the QSD8250 that all the other 1st gen phones are using.
Hi all,
This is acctually my third Pro 7, I really love this phone.
Has anyone tought, what could be next successor of Pro 7/WiMo Mango,
withe same formfactor.
Regards
I too love my 7 Pro. But really think it should have a bigger screen! I nearly exchanged it for a HD7 the other week.
But until another Windows Phone comes out with a faster CPU, bigger screen and landscape keyboard I will probably keep my good old 7 Pro
pro7ieben said:
Hi all,
This is acctually my third Pro 7, I really love this phone.
Has anyone tought, what could be next successor of Pro 7/WiMo Mango,
withe same formfactor.
Regards
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I was actually wondering the same thing about a wk ago...
All my research showed nothing I couldnt even find a whisper. Now that I have internet sharing I can go a year without a new phone if need be.
If you find anything though post it here so we can drool
well nothing yet...
I really hope that nokia surprises us
Yup same here. Bigger screen would be nice... AND S-AMOLED .. But other than that, really great piece of hardware... Really well built, firm... Good design, slim etc... All and all, a really great device, best I ever had. I think I will be using this also for a long time. Thats why I updated the memory to 32gb.
Nokia will be coming out with a device for us, but when I dont know... I do know that at least partly it has to do with the OS not fully supporting landscape. Which of course can feel little weird for someone when using the hw kb, but for me it does not matter. Landscape works where it needs.
Off topic, but does anyone else find the keyboard a bit clunky to use?
I came from a Touch Pro 2 and I sometimes feel I've been downgraded(dont get me wrong, I definitely dont miss having to soft reset the phone every day). I could easily churn out a paragraph without having to look; but after nearly a year of acclimating to the handset, I still miss a stroke every other word
Not really. You will get used to this one... Unless you have HUGE fingers
I actually love this phone. but I do not have a free navigation application can use.
Never mind.
Heard on the rumour mill (can't remember where, so sorry, no links) that Acer were developing an Apollo (WP8) device with HKB.....
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Hey, guys, I love this form factor - horizontal slider with QWERTY keyboard and tilting screen. But it has become rare these days. Unfortunately, the majority of brainwashed crowds out there want thin phones without keyboards.
I am looking for a new phone with the same form factor. With Android or WP.
Recently, HTC made an announcement that they will not release any more phones with keyboard. That's horrible
Motorola Droid 4 is good but it is not sold in Europe
So I continue looking around...
just bought my 4th 7 Pro, at least now there is AMEX insurance on it.
keeping it locked cabinet until this one dies
anyone knows good full body protective skin for 7 Pro?