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HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense
For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.
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Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!
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Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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Hey everyone, this is a petition to get HTC to give us Ice Cream Sandwich. As people have seen, HTC released this statement
After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers.
Now as anyone on XDA we know this is not true. This is really getting alot of us mad, and I thought it is about time we do something as a community. Now, the HTC Desire was suppose to get Gingerbread, but ended up not being able to handle Gingerbread with Sense on top of it, so because of that and the efforts of the community, HTC released an RUU on the HTCDev.com website for a pure Ginerbread update. Now if HTC is not going to bring an update for our phone, they can at lest bring a ICS RUU then. It at lest gives us Devs offical libs and kernel.
Now please people, can you please sign this petition, we need to show HTC that we care about this phone, and we want this update.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-us-ics/
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If it asks you to donate after you vote, that is not going to are cause that is going to ipetitions, just click the back button or close the tab
Spread this everywhere you can we want this to go big!!
If the Desire HD gets native ICS then we will also get easily, which also means a working camera so please sign this Petition.
Signed lolk
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Just sell your phone and never buy another HTC phone ever again
Please HTC don't push us to buy OneX stopping ICS for DHD, don't be evil....
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Signed
Signed.
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Logged in with facebook!!!!!
is Desire HD the only phone that will give us a working cam?
Signed
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I signed but do these actually ever work?
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I signed but do these actually ever work?
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Occasionally. Don't be a hater.
Signed. What happens if I sign again.
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Occasionally. Don't be a hater.
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Not hating I do hope this does work
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Signed. I would love to see this work. While I am still under contract and under a certain lack of funds to switch to the 'Pure Google' experience that is Nexus, I would like to see ICS or JB on a similar device so the glacier gets the proper drivers so we can all have a fully functional experience. Fun all around.
6048 and growing!
The number is 6048 and growing!
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The number is 6048 and growing!
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That is pretty impressive...But it's kinda clear that Htc wants everyone to buy a HOAX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417196&postcount=441
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417196&postcount=441
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Well that sucks...
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Hi,
HTC confirmed that the S will get its JB-Update in Novemver 2012. (http://www.golem.de/news/hands-on-htc-one-x-plus-mit-schnellerem-tegra-3-prozessor-1210-94817-3.html) (german!)
Greets
YAY , only a month
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Hmm interesting. Flash player will natively work on the JB upgrade...
Vauix said:
Hmm interesting. Flash player will natively work on the JB upgrade...
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On Engadget it says that JB will be rolling out THIS month!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/htc-jelly-bean-one-series/
According to gsmarena.com JB will arrive this month!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_with_android_41_jelly_bean_is_now_official__-news-4884.php
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According to gsmarena.com JB will arrive this month!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_with_android_41_jelly_bean_is_now_official__-news-4884.php
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maybe they'll roll it out on different times in different countries...
Yeah... that's true.
It's sad because we the owners that use the s3 version of the htc one s didn't get android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 and others will be getting jb this month!
Another F.U. post for HTC !
Yea, but if you read at the bottom, tmo one s won't get it with the rest, it's bad enough having to wait on manufacturers to work the new version into their skin that they just haaave to have, but we also have to wait on the carrier to approve and add their extra layer of crap. I really wish they would all just give us the option to run vanilla android if we wanted without rooting. It does me up the wall. Ok I'm done ranting now.
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The one s and one x, won't see jb until the one x+ is released
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JB come to HOS and HOX free's in october, with a company comes in november-december
This is good, seems HTC and Samsung both want to get there flagship devices on jb, but we will probably see a leak sooner I knew it was coming soon
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Yanno with how tmo is constantly trying to improve everything. Common sense would b to get these updates out quickly. To build confidence with there customers.
But it does make sense for HTC to wait for the one x+ to land in the u.s .. but screw both theories /endofrant
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Well even if that's the case we will still see it here before T-Mobile anyways but atleast we know when to expect it
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Yeah... that's true.
It's sad because we the owners that use the s3 version of the htc one s didn't get android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 and others will be getting jb this month!
Another F.U. post for HTC !
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Why didn't you make sure you bought the s4 before buying it?
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Many of us didn't know that there are 2 versions of the One S (i didn't).
Add to that the fact that the S3 is sold in specific regions.
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The one s and one x, won't see jb until the one x+ is released
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One x+ ? Wtf?
If I helped in any way please hit thanks
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One x+ ? Wtf?
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Have a look at the OP.
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Yea, but if you read at the bottom, tmo one s won't get it with the rest, it's bad enough having to wait on manufacturers to work the new version into their skin that they just haaave to have, but we also have to wait on the carrier to approve and add their extra layer of crap. I really wish they would all just give us the option to run vanilla android if we wanted without rooting. It does me up the wall. Ok I'm done ranting now.
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You do have a choice.... its called get a Nexus!!! HTC/Samsung/Motorola/etc, always have, and always will add a skin to their phones. It's one of the reasons I bought my One S... For Sense!!!!! I never understood why people complain and ask companies to remove the one feature they add that is PURPOSELY added to help differentiate their phones from all the rest.
I prefer vanilla over sense. I bought the One S because of the excellent hardware, not because of sense. Still I would say that sense is better than vanilla for beginners. Some reasons:
1. Labels under every button so its behavior is clear. In some Google apps, for example Gmail, there are lots of buttons without labels and its not always clear what they do. Yes, I know I can long press to get description, but not everyone does.
2. More functionality included without third party apps. Why hasn't Google included something as basic as stopwatch in their clock app?
Theres probably more, but this is what I could think of now
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I prefer vanilla over sense. I bought the One S because of the excellent hardware, not because of sense. Still I would say that sense is better than vanilla for beginners. Some reasons:
1. Labels under every button so its behavior is clear. In some Google apps, for example Gmail, there are lots of buttons without labels and its not always clear what they do. Yes, I know I can long press to get description, but not everyone does.
2. More functionality included without third party apps. Why hasn't Google included something as basic as stopwatch in their clock app?
Theres probably more, but this is what I could think of now
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Wow...been using Android for many years and just learned about this long press trick. I don't care about #2...I'd rather find an app that works the way I want it to rather than have some bloatware running in the background all the time.
Y'all think AT&T has plans to update straight to 4.2 instead of 4.1.1 seeing as how the hox+ update is already in progress.
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Y'all think AT&T has plans to update straight to 4.2 instead of 4.1.1 seeing as how the hox+ update is already in progress.
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doubt it. they'll probably update it to 4.1.1, and then that'll be the last update we see from them.
My honest opinion
Would be nice but fat chance
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Would be great even if they give us 4. 1. 1
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I read this on a google news search might be BS but I'd love it. And most phones usually get at the most one or two updates small or big doesn't matter too the companies, seeing as how they would want there customers to upgrade their phones in the name of making more money.
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i'm growing increasingly impatient with htc. Once you go Nexus nothing really compares after imo
I think that is the main reason why jellybean is so late. They are going to give us that one update and that's it.
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I think that is the main reason why jellybean is so late. They are going to give us that one update and that's it.
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Its a tough call for me. Nexus devices are supported pretty darn well. I mean, nexus s got jellybean and it can barely run it. (read run it smoothly for longer than two weeks)
But on the other hand, I tried a phone with no sense available, and I realized how much I liked sense (even though I'm only on it like half the time)
But my point is, sense is the slickest, most coherent ui overlay, and that has got to take time to do properly. Yeah, yeah, they drag their heels so we upgrade...but in all fairness, I do think they put a lot of work into it.
I think in the end I've decided that a stable version of sense is worth two of aosp. That's just my personal opinion.
After a decent aosp jellybean was released for desire z, I found myself still running gb sense 2.1. It was just a great OS that was hard to fault.
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Yeah, they'll give us 4.2.1 with sense 5 because AT&T is the best!
I imagine we won't get an update until the hox+ gets there's
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Yeah, they'll give us 4.2.1 with sense 5 because AT&T is the best!
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too many beers.....
I wish HTC would make the next nexus that way we could have the option to run sense and aosp
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I wish HTC would make the next nexus that way we could have the option to run sense and aosp
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Too many beers too
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I wish HTC would make the next nexus that way we could have the option to run sense and aosp
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What???
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What???
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exactly
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exactly
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The N1 runs sense ports. Assuming that's what he's talking about.
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Or maybe when you first turn the phone on you can have like an aroma option to run pure Google or sense
ATT is run by an arrogant ahole who only cares about the stock price(Randall Stevenson I'm calling you out). Why actually spend money on getting us JB when he can continue to line his pockets. "Eat the rich, its the only thing that they are good for"-Aerosmith
Couldn't be truer. Do nothing paper pushing thieves. He cost att billions in the failed tmo merger and got a 20+ million bonus and then they re-elected him. Ponderous to say the least. If anyone of us cost their company billions, we would be fired and probably brought up on charges.
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Y'all think AT&T has plans to update straight to 4.2 instead of 4.1.1 seeing as how the hox+ update is already in progress.
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Att has no reason to give us anything. We already got one update I doubt that a second one is coming. They have a hox+ and sg3 to sell, why would they care about the hoxl.
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why would they care about the hoxl.
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Why are all you AT&T users so pessimistic. Be happy and enjoy life, love your phone and its amazingness and stop sounding so much like Marvin from The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.