Differences in backups - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

What is the difference in the data that is backup'd between a nandroid backup, titanaium backup, and a program like mybackup pro? does one of these do all data? i want to be able to backup all my phones setting's, sms, etc and also my apks and the game saves but i don't need the files that games download. some games like gta 3 and max payne download like 400-800 mb fo game data. i could do that after i run the game again from a restore but would like the game saves. i have done a backup before using adb and the size of the backup was 1:1 of the phones sd card. also with a nandroid backup does it store the rom as well? say i flash a custom rom and don't like it, do i have to flash the stock rom and then restore or can i just restore and it flash the rom that was on with the restore? if the rom isn't stored with the backup then can i use the backup of the stock rooted rom that i would make before flashing a custom rom and restore it to that rom? Thanks

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Nandroid & Titanium

... do you need to use BOTH?
I use both simply because Titanium is good for restoring single apps+data, and at times I've found that invaluable.
Yeah. Titanium backs up your apps and data to sd card. Which mean you can restore it from ROM to ROM.
Nandroid backs up everything above the radio level. Kernel, boot.img, /system, basically the whole ROM.
So say I was on ROM 1 and wanted to change to ROM 2. I'd do a Titanium, then a Nandroid (or the other way around, whichever's most convenient xD).
After I do my wipe and install ROM 2, I don't have my apps! But if I download Titanium from the market, it'll see my backups on my sd card and I can restore them.
Now say I don't like ROM 2. I can use my nandroid backup to change back to ROM 1, with all of ROM 1 intact.
Hope that helps =]
Thanks a bunch for the use case. That is what I thought as well but I wasnt 100%.

How to restore apps after flashing?

Hi guys
In the WM world I was used to re-install all my applications after I flashed a different rom.
Is there some way to restore my apps with android after I flashed a different rom?
Maybe titanium backup?
Yep, titanium backup is the way to go. It backs up your apps and app data on the sd card. After you flash, simply download titanium backup again, and select restore user apps and app data. Simple as that.
okay, ty! That sounds great if it is that simple I think i will give the new CM6 a try

[Q] Recover game saves/data from a nandroid backup?

I made a backup when i first decided to flash a ROM on my phone, but i didn't know about apps like titanium backup at that time, where i can just backup an app or game and also backup the data along with it.
is there a way to get into any of the image files from the nandroid backup and retrieve data like game saves/data and stuff?
Boot into recovery scroll to backup and restore then advanced restore AND ONLY RESTORE DATA. This will give you all your game progress back. I do this everytime I flash a new cm7 build and it works everytime.
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Backups: Nandroid v. TiBu

Can someone help me understand the difference between a Nandroid backup and using Titanium Backup? Is it similar to the difference between image-based backup vs. file/application based backup? Under what circumstances would one be better than the other?
Your simile is spot on. Nandroid backup is used to completely restore a system with all apps and data.
Titanium Backup is used to restore/reinstall apps and data without changing your system. It's really handy if you get brave and decide to flash a new ROM on your phone. TiBu can put all your previously installed apps into place very quickly.
If you don't like the new ROM, just restore your old system from the Nandroid backup.
Ok, so help me think this through.
I've already Rooted/S-off/flashed a ROM on my phone. So presuming that the ROM image I download via CWM or XDA is on my card anyway, and I have TiBu (I have the paid version) that I can use to selectively restore apps, settings and data, would not Nandroid be redundant in this case?
OlafTheOx said:
Your simile is spot on. Nandroid backup is used to completely restore a system with all apps and data.
Titanium Backup is used to restore/reinstall apps and data without changing your system. It's really handy if you get brave and decide to flash a new ROM on your phone. TiBu can put all your previously installed apps into place very quickly.
If you don't like the new ROM, just restore your old system from the Nandroid backup.
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The point of a nandriod backup is to easily go back to a working setup without having to spend time installing apps and tweaking all the numerous settings to your liking. 5 minutes to restore a nandroid backup vs. 2 - 4 hours of installing & tweaking.
DInc with CyanogenMod 6.1 & Invisiblek #28 kernel.
Download Nandroid
Where do I download Nandroid?
Will this one work from the G1 thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830
Thanks
Nandroid is actually part of Clockwork Recovery. If you reboot to recovery mode you can make and restore backups from there.
As you say your on a custom ROM I assume Clockwork Recovery/CWM/ROM Manager was installed as part of the process.
There is a good overview of ClockworkMod Recovery at http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-clockworkmod-recovery-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/#features
BillTheCat said:
Can someone help me understand the difference between a Nandroid backup and using Titanium Backup? Is it similar to the difference between image-based backup vs. file/application based backup? Under what circumstances would one be better than the other?
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I was just wondering about the same thing, so thanks for the thread.
Making a Nandroid backup right now ;-)
BTW, nandroid backups are stored on your SD card. You can free up space by either deleting or moving them to storage off the phone. Just keep a backup of your preferred restoration ROM on the SD card. Also, at the very least, it's a good idea to save a backup of the original manufacturer's ROM somewhere.
DInc with CyanogenMod 6.1 & Invisiblek #28 kernel.
technoplunk said:
There is a good overview of ClockworkMod Recovery at addictivetips dot com
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thanks for the link.
One issue though... it says ClockWorkMod requires ROOT access to create a backup rom image, which on my phone (ATT Aria with HBOOT 1.02) require to have S-OFF first with alpharev, yet most instructions tell you to create a nandroid backup first (which makes sense in case something goes wrong)...
Am I missing something ? you can't create a back, and you take risk doing S-OFF+Root to get there.
I want to remove unwanted ATT crapware, and install non market apps, but I need root access for all this. right ?

Why Titanium Backup Pro instead of Nandroid Manager

I have several TWRP nandroid backups of all my Roms. I downloaded Nandroid Manager and can open any of those Roms, explore them, and restore apps, data, or both. You can select individual apps, all apps, apps not installed, system apps, etc.
I'm wondering what's the use of Titanium Backup Pro if I can simply restore all my apps from a nandroid backup?
I guess with regards to backups, the only advantage I see is that each nandroid backup contains redundant apps and data (not sure if you can use TWRP to make a backup without the apps or data).
If you could make a backup of the Rom with themes/settings only, backup all apps/data separately with Titanium Pro, you could avoid this redundancy thus keeping smaller Roms with apps saved only once rather than for each Rom; however, perhaps this only helps if you plan to restore app only without data ... I thought I read it wasn't good to restore app data on a new Rom??
Is this the advantage of using Titanium and keeping the stock/lightly modified Rom backups or do I simply backup with all apps/themes installed and use Nandroid Manager on new Roms?

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