I have several TWRP nandroid backups of all my Roms. I downloaded Nandroid Manager and can open any of those Roms, explore them, and restore apps, data, or both. You can select individual apps, all apps, apps not installed, system apps, etc.
I'm wondering what's the use of Titanium Backup Pro if I can simply restore all my apps from a nandroid backup?
I guess with regards to backups, the only advantage I see is that each nandroid backup contains redundant apps and data (not sure if you can use TWRP to make a backup without the apps or data).
If you could make a backup of the Rom with themes/settings only, backup all apps/data separately with Titanium Pro, you could avoid this redundancy thus keeping smaller Roms with apps saved only once rather than for each Rom; however, perhaps this only helps if you plan to restore app only without data ... I thought I read it wasn't good to restore app data on a new Rom??
Is this the advantage of using Titanium and keeping the stock/lightly modified Rom backups or do I simply backup with all apps/themes installed and use Nandroid Manager on new Roms?
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... do you need to use BOTH?
I use both simply because Titanium is good for restoring single apps+data, and at times I've found that invaluable.
Yeah. Titanium backs up your apps and data to sd card. Which mean you can restore it from ROM to ROM.
Nandroid backs up everything above the radio level. Kernel, boot.img, /system, basically the whole ROM.
So say I was on ROM 1 and wanted to change to ROM 2. I'd do a Titanium, then a Nandroid (or the other way around, whichever's most convenient xD).
After I do my wipe and install ROM 2, I don't have my apps! But if I download Titanium from the market, it'll see my backups on my sd card and I can restore them.
Now say I don't like ROM 2. I can use my nandroid backup to change back to ROM 1, with all of ROM 1 intact.
Hope that helps =]
Thanks a bunch for the use case. That is what I thought as well but I wasnt 100%.
Real noob question here, how do I run a successful backup and restore after I used cwm to flash TnT Lite onto my gtablet. First time I did it, I backed up everything using titanium backup but upon returning to the newly flashed device I couldn't restore all of the applications and settings I backed up previously, I want to flash to 3.1.4 but I fear losing everything, again...
Help greatly appreciated!!!!
You should make 2 backups, one in clockworkmod under "backup and restore" and one in titanium backup for your apps and system data. After making those 2 backups, copy them over to your pc to be safe. Clockworkmod backup is in the .\clockworkmod\backups\[date backup was made) folder. Titanium backup is in the .\TitaniumBackup folder.
but how do I make get all my apps and settings restored...? I have the backups, but how do I restore them, do I do it through cmw??
From a fresh ROM install, install Titanium Backup. Within Titanium backup, go to the Backup/Restore tab, then press the menu button, select Batch, then you will have options to restore your apps and settings.
It has been recommended by the devs to not restore anything but your apps and their data. Don't restore system data from another rom.
I have few questions about backups:
Nandroid:
1) So when I restore from a nandroid backup what do I exactly restore. I restore the rom this means any .zip mods I installed are gone. Do I restore radio, kernel, firmware, hboot?
2) When I do nandroid backup what happens to applications and data?
Titanium
3) What exactly system data backup (batch) backups? If I want to backup my my settings and WI-fi pairings and sms and phone call history and maybe some other 2-3 little things. If I do system data backup I will backup these things but when I restore if my previous configurations had lots of bloatware would I get unwanted things on my new configuration and slow down my phone?
4) Backing all user apps backups only .apks it means it installs the applications again?
5)User apps+ data means it will reinstall the apps and include saves and settings and etc right?
6) I've heard when backing up apps it's better to skip data why?
Thank you!
1. If you restore a previous backup then your mods will be gone (if they were not in that backup). kernel & firmware restored; hboot & radio not.
2.They get backed up (but not the data from the SD Card - just internal memory).
3. What you select (in Batch you can select). You just delete bloatware using TB after restore.
4. Correct, for settings and data you need the APPS+DATA option
5. Right
6. To avoid any complication with newer/older firmware - I always restored with data, and had no issues.
Thank you!
I just didn't understand completly about nandroid backup and apps.
If I use my phone for 5 days and install 5 aps and do a backup then use it 6 more days and install 6 more aps. After I do a nandroid restore the 6 aps installed after backup are lost and from the 5 installed before backup the ones that are not on SD will be restored. Correct? And if this is correct the restored apps will be only apk or apk + data?
Nandriod backup is the backup of Whole System the things u flashed the boot animation the theme every bit of ur phone
while just titnaum backup just backups ur apps+data nothing Else
janarioo said:
Nandriod backup is the backup of Whole System the things u flashed the boot animation the theme every bit of ur phone
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Except radio and hboot.
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If I flash a ROM and then want to restore all my apps and data, why should I use Titanium?
1. So I see that my google "Backup account" can backup my data and restore apps and there settings and data. So why use Titanium?
2. whats the difference between googles backup and Titanium's?
3. Can I use both together when restoring? I assume google will restore first and then I will restore from Titanium... Is there any reason to restore from google account?
4. And then there's TWRP and its backup: what I understand about this is if I do a backup before I flash Viper Rom then I can flash my backup if I want to return to my old ROM and it will restore the ROM and apps and all data (so I wouldn't need to restore from Titanium and/or google in this scenario?). Is this correct?
Thanks, smoka
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
n0ne980 said:
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
TWRP will not remove your Titanium backups unless you specifically tell it to wipe your sd card (sdcard2) or your personal data partition(sdcard1) depending on where you have it set to back things up to.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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What is TiBu?
Titanium backup.lol.
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i have a cwm backup and want to restore apps from it . ant way to do it?
Hi,
If your cwm version has an option to restore data partition only... That can work. But, I've read many issues from people trying to do this. Using Titanium backup to backup your apps and data is by far the better way.
You could restore your full backup. Get titanium backup and backup your apps and data. Then flash a new rom and get titanium backup again and restore your user apps.
That's the best and most popular way. ?
Good luck!