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[Q] NO data plan?

If i was to buy an Inspire from craigslist and pop my sim card in that has no data plan, would i stil be ablke to use the phone just without a data plan? thanks!

Probably, until att emails you and tells you they are going to upgrade you to a data plan when they do and imei check.

haha o man that will get me in trouble with the rents! haha, is there anyway i can be like no, you cannot do that, i didnt buy it from yall

Can't do that
ATT will detect which phone you are using and automatically add the data plan on.

i am currently using an iphone 3g for about a year now and they havent done that to me yet...before using the iphone however, my dad told them to cut off any access or ability for me to use data. is that why they havent made me add on a plan?

ThroughHymn said:
i am currently using an iphone 3g for about a year now and they havent done that to me yet...before using the iphone however, my dad told them to cut off any access or ability for me to use data. is that why they havent made me add on a plan?
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Its possible you have a old smartphone opt out feature on your account. This was added for people that had a smartphone b4 data was a requirement and had to be grandfathered in.
I was under the impression that the iPhone overrode this but i could be wrong
Drew

ThroughHymn said:
If i was to buy an Inspire from craigslist and pop my sim card in that has no data plan, would i stil be ablke to use the phone just without a data plan? thanks!
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I've recently updated to the inspire from an original unlocked iphone 2g. I've been using it without a data plan for the past 3 years. At the start, they used to send me text messages about not having a data plan. That lasted about a month or two when I originally bought the phone. And I never heard another thing about it since then.
One little note I found in the contract of the new agreement. It states that "You realize that your smartphone requires a data plan, and if detected you allow AT&T to add the according data plan to your contract." I'm not really happy about that because I did infact not want to keep the data plan. To me it's a waste of money as I live in Philly and wi-fi is everywhere which is faster.
Anyways. I say that if you buy the phone from craigslist and pop in your old sim card, there is nothing AT&T can do. You didn't sign a new contract that has those agreements within. Therefore that can't just turn a data plan on for you if you didn't sign that contract/agreement.
So my answer from experience is that without a doubt you can use the phone bought from craigslist without a data plan. And provided that agreement isn't in your contract, AT&T cannot just turn on the data plan without you knowing.

I bought a capitvate off of ebay 6 months ago and put my sim card in without a data plan, and a month ago I bought an inspire and att has never sent me a message or nothing.

ooo ok i see, thakns guys! now ill just need to generate some money to go buy one! haha

If you unlock it, AT&T can't tell what phone you are using.....
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[Q] Grandfathered Plan on LTE?

Hey guys, I know that there was another thread on this previously, but there was no answer. I have an old Sim (from around 2008) and just purchased a Skyrocket. I tried using the APN for the LTE, but didnt recieve any internet signal at all. I am currently using the HSPA+, but I was wondering if you guys had any ideas on what could be causing the problem. Thanks in advance.

Call att they will add the right plan...
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You need a lte sim
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...you're using a SIM from 2008?
You need a new SIM dude.

Yes, I am actually an old employee and they never took away my plan, so I have avoided going into an ATT store or calling them for about 3 years. lol. What is the difference between an LTE sim and another one? I thought that they just got smaller.

I was in the same boat as you earlier this week. I was still using the same sim for probably the past 4-5 years.
I had to first go get a new LTE sim from the AT&T store. Mine was free although I've heard some places try and charge you.
Next I had to call up 611 and have them change my data plan which was previously listed as "Blackberry Personal Unlimited" <--LOL and switch it over to one of the new LTE unlimited plans.
Took about 5 mins on the phone with the ATT rep and I had LTE service. Congrats on the phone! I've had mine for less than a week and am loving it!

Hey any of you guys think Best Buy would give you a free sim?

Corporate AT&T stores (from my experience) give you free SIMS....Authorized Retailers usually try and charge you.
I have never had a problem with my local AT&T Corporate store, it's the only one I will go to....I never go to an Authorized Retailer.

I really only go to BB because of the insurance being 9.99 a month

GeezyF.Ladies said:
Hey any of you guys think Best Buy would give you a free sim?
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I got my phone at a BB and my sim was free.

thetacoking2 said:
Hey guys, I know that there was another thread on this previously, but there was no answer. I have an old Sim (from around 2008) and just purchased a Skyrocket. I tried using the APN for the LTE, but didnt recieve any internet signal at all. I am currently using the HSPA+, but I was wondering if you guys had any ideas on what could be causing the problem. Thanks in advance.
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I am having the same problem. I have the SIM out of the box of the skyrocket...

dnlgorz said:
I am having the same problem. I have the SIM out of the box of the skyrocket...
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Call AT&T and have them provision your line with the LTE plan, there's a specific plan that needs to be added so that your phone will connect to the LTE towers.

I came from an iPhone 3GS. I was allowed to keep my unlimited data plan (which doesn't exist anymore for new people) and got my SIM for free. I did this at a retail store. I say just go in. Verify they aren't going to do anything you don't like before you give them your account info.

dnlgorz said:
I am having the same problem. I have the SIM out of the box of the skyrocket...
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You may have to perform what's called an IVR acceptance. I'm recently separated from the company but I consider myself a decent expert on the processes. Did you order the phone from online/call center? If so, when AT&T sends the phone, due to you not being able to PHYSICALLY sign a contract when you upgrade/activate, etc., they place this feature on your account until you dial *862 (from the CURRENT, not new, phone) and accept the terms. You'll need the Billing Zip, Account Holder's Last 4, and the phone # of course. It's all automated. Try that out and THEN insert the new SIM in the SR. It amazed me how many customers would call CARE or go to a store and get stuck for hours because the "rep" thought it was a technical issue when it's really a 2 minute process.
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thetacoking2 said:
Hey guys, I know that there was another thread on this previously, but there was no answer. I have an old Sim (from around 2008) and just purchased a Skyrocket. I tried using the APN for the LTE, but didnt recieve any internet signal at all. I am currently using the HSPA+, but I was wondering if you guys had any ideas on what could be causing the problem. Thanks in advance.
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I'm assuming you just attempted to just swap the SIM into the LTE SR and keep it rolling. They're correct when they say you need a new SIM. There's a coding to the network that older (especially 2008) SIM cards won't accept because the network hadn't been constructed @ the time. You will ALSO need an LTE data plan on the account so make sure you've done that as well.

Thanks for all the help guys. I think I am going to give them a call and switch it to a new sim to see if that would work. I have to switch phones first, lol. My plan is super cheap right now, and I got the phone at a steal at 340. My sim card is old as hell, and I will see if it will work without me having to pay more for my old employee plan. I hope they dont ask me for my supervisor's name. Wish me luck.

thetacoking2 said:
Thanks for all the help guys. I think I am going to give them a call and switch it to a new sim to see if that would work. I have to switch phones first, lol. My plan is super cheap right now, and I got the phone at a steal at 340. My sim card is old as hell, and I will see if it will work without me having to pay more for my old employee plan. I hope they dont ask me for my supervisor's name. Wish me luck.
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Do you have the data feature as stand-alone or integrated into the rate plan itself? Some school districts did it that way. 99% of us have stand-alone. If that's the case, it shouldn't affect your current stasis.
Skyrocket CM7 O/C +

Its the one that has it all integrated into the single plan. Here is the text from the plan.
Agent National Retail 2000 Anytime & Unlimited Night/Weekend & Unlimited Mobile-To-Mobile Minutes Including Unlimited MB:

thetacoking2 said:
Its the one that has it all integrated into the single plan. Here is the text from the plan.
Agent National Retail 2000 Anytime & Unlimited Night/Weekend & Unlimited Mobile-To-Mobile Minutes Including Unlimited MB:
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Wow. Rather unique plan you have there. Looks like you have a grandfathered plan that isn't for smartphones. That being the case, outside of the iPhone 2g trick, you're stuck with capped data options.
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Someone else a RadioShack employee too? Been gone since mid-08 and am also still on the same plan. I was looking at finally upgrading my Touch Pro 2 and was curious about the data. Looks like I'm pretty much stuck considering I don't want to lose my $25/month plan.

unlimted
I was able to keep unlimited grandfathered data with 4g, but no matter what i did, or who i talked to, LTE would take it away, so i said keep the 4g, im using a skyrocket, and i dont get lte in my area for now, so its kind of ok ( except for travel)
but i had to do this all on the phone with an att rep, nothing was doable online.
hope this helps someone.

[Q] Nexus S i9023 willing to use ATT without Dataplan possible?

Hi guys been reading on forums about att automatically detecting smartphones but some say its ok if the phone is unbranded and some say any phone it might be ATT will be able to detect it...
My Question is
I have a Nexus s i9023 bought in india now i am in USA i already bought an ATT connection which i am using on a samsung [dumbphone](i activated the sim with the imei of that dumbphone) ..I would like to know if ATT will be able to detect my phone as smartphone if i switch that sim onto my Nexus S and activate a dataplan??
PS: i will disable data by all means...using CM7.1..will use Wifi only

HI,
When I was in US last year - I purchased multiple connections - initially from AT&T and then from T-Mo.
AT&T - My phone was a Nokia 5230 then and I threw the dumbphone into bin and used my 5230 without any issue. I was on a $50 plan with unlimited talk & text and 500MB data.
T-Mo : Same experience, this time I just bought a sim. Not even a dumb phone. You can walk into any of the T-Mo showrooms and get one. Or buy a dumb phone + plan and use it..
As a matter of fact, I have a friend in US who is using a Galaxy S with a T-Mo sim taken out of an dumb phone.
Thanks, J

hey thanks for the reply!!
Well i know abt the scenario of t-mobile... i would like to stick on to att... so i wanna know if att would be able to recognize my mobile as a smartphone and charge me a dataplan accordingly...

NP man.. Hit Thanks if i helped
I don't think so. Are you on a postpaid plan?
I just confirmed that you could get the Sim only connection from AT&T too. Prepaid connections are generally bundled with dataplans and they stop working once you cross the limit

Thanks man...
My ques is if i swap the sim does ATT automatically recognize nexus s as a smart phone ?? coz of it does it subscribes to the dataplan into my account...:|

yes they will detect your phone eventually.
if you are under contract they can enforce a data plan requirement
i was looong off contract when i switched to a crackberry
but had data blocked on my account
they never tried to force me onto a data add...
fwiw

we threw my old captivate on our sons dumbphone line, turned off data on the phone and AT&T has not said a thing. The account shows the smartphone on it, but no data plan is being forced.

how can i keep this phone without a plan

What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this

att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price

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att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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I know, they sent me some BS email, saying that smartphones require a data plan.
They are designed for surfing the internet and use a lot of data. You are required a data plan

BookinZ06 said:
What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...

k4ce said:
Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att

BookinZ06 said:
Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
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When they identify your phone as a smartphone, they don't do it through the data you send them, they don't through your imei number which is broadcast to att via your sim. So an app or rom won't do you any good. I can't speak for att, but tmobile has a similar policy with all smartphones requiring data but i have used a Nokia n8 on their network for 2 years without anyone tacking on a data plan.
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I'm on at&t prepaid $2/day without data - so far. I bought a data package before they changed their policy to monthly only for smartphones plus data package. I don't talk/text every day, so $2/day seemed worth trying. When they switched policies, I just did not buy a data package and as far as I know, I don't have at&t data access. But I have been able to use my phone for calls. Don't know what will happen when my $100 runs out, but that will probably be several months from now. Meantime I have a mobile hotspot I can use if out and about and think it necessary to check emails.
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You have to talk to a super visor. I have a the nexus without a data plan on att. Had to jump thru hoops though, rep said its done automatically through there computers so it had to be over ridded. And I had to call back
3 times because no one would do it for me.
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[Q] Can I use a SIM card from a tablet on a data plan in a smartphone?

The title expresses my basic question. If I had a tablet that was on a Verizon data plan, could I take the SIM card from it and put it in a smartphone (that had the same size SIM) and use that smartphone on the data plan of the tablet? I understand that I probably won't get the basic phone calls and texting capabilities.
My other question is do you think the following scenario will work, or is there a better way to get a data only plan for a smartphone on Verizon?
Go to Verizon store and purchase a tablet on a data plan. Purchase a Verizon smartphone off of eBay that matches the SIM size of the tablet. Swap the SIM card. Sell tablet on eBay. Set up smartphone with Google voice.
I have found multiple cases of people taking their smartphone SIM card and putting it in a Tablet to use the data on the smartphone plan. But I've never heard of someone doing it the other way. If I put the tablet SIM in the smartphone will I be able to pay by the minute for calls or will I be forced to a VOIP service?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Well I don't know how useful that scenario will be now that Verizon stopped subsidizing their tablets with contract purchases. I was hoping to purchase it on a contract then sell it for more to help with purchasing the phone off contract.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about this? I want to try and stick with Verizon because they have great coverage in my area.

First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.

pazi79 said:
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
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I tried to talk them into that last fall and they wouldn't go for it. What I really want to do is get on their shared everything plan with me and my wife and have 2 smartphones on their tablet plan for $60. Which is way better than the $150+ we would pay for the regular smartphone plan.
Is it possible to buy a SIM card from them or ebay and have it activated as a tablet and then stick it in a smartphone? Could I just go in there and say, "I forgot my tablet at home and I need a new SIM card activated on a new plan." Then take it home and put it in myself?

When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.

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When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm banking on the fact that they will believe me that I have a tablet at home (even though I really don't) and that I need a new SIM card (for whatever reason, like i lost it or my device didnt come with one cuz I bought it on ebay). Basically, activating a new device. Do they NEED the device there at the store to activate the SIM?

No

So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?

nsackman22 said:
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
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I've found from people on HowardForums that this isn't possible. The verizon people need the IMEI of a device to activate the SIM card for it. Also, from them I learned that it is possible to put a SIM from a tablet into a smartphone and use it on data only. I just need to make sure the SIMs are the same size between the two. If I were to sell the tablet afterwards it would have a "bad ESN" and not be able to be activated on the Verizon network because it would be tied to my account. The tablet would still be usable as wifi only.