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New to Inspire? YOU NEED TO READ THIS!

I had the Check Mark under the "H+" icon like a lot of other veteran AT&T users here. I had no data service due to an incorrect APN. I bought the Inspire off-contract at a Corp store & put in my SIM from my Captivate. I called Premier Support and this was what I was told:
"The Inspire uses the 4G network and your IMEI isn't provisioned on our network. We can register your IMEI to use our network but you'll have to select a new data plan. If you choose to enter an APN manually, when our system audits the network, your IMEI will show as a "non-qualifying" device and you'll immediately be placed in the 4G 250MB data plan. I can put in a ticket stating that you request your IMEI be allowed to use our 4G network on an unlimited basis, but there's no guarantee that it will be approved. If it is not approved, you will have the option to remain on the 3G unlimited plan with your 3g-only device or 'upgrade' to a 4G plan with your Inspire. You will be contacted with our decision."
There apparently is no option to use the Inspire solely on the 3G unlimited network. To guarantee that I only use the 3G network, I'll have to go back to a 3G-only device - IE my Captivate.
I will wait to see what they come up with but my fall-back will be to return the Inspire and pay the $35 restocking fee & pursue my options with a class-action lawsuit.
This is going to have me cancelling the 5 lines I have with AT&T and switch to Verizon. Even if I can't get unlimited data with Verizon and it ultimately costs me more, I'd switch just to spite AT&T and deny them of my monthly $289. This is COMPLETE BS on AT&T's part!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that between Sunday and Tuesday morning, my Inspire used over 500MB on AT&T's network with all the Google & HTCSense.com syncronization! This is in ADDITION to the data I transferred over my 802.11n network at home! They have geared these devices to absolutely SUCK data down their pipes with their bloatware. I totally feel an anti-trust/consumer fraud lawsuit in the making!

I would suggest trying to call them back. I switched from a captivate to the Inspire and had the same issues with data. Called their support and told them to keep my unlimited data and 5 minutes later they had me all squared away unlimited 4g data and all, I think you talked to a ****ty rep is all.

Yeah I stayed on the $30 unlimited plan no problem. They told me they switched it to 4G and it would still be the same price and unlimited.

gtg465x said:
Yeah I stayed on the $30 unlimited plan no problem. They told me they switched it to 4G and it would still be the same price and unlimited.
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glad to see your using an inspire GTG

Same here. Bought the phone at Costco. Put my Captivate SIM in and no go. Went to my local corp store and the guy told me I had to change my data plan since the Unlimited plan would not work based on a Memo the store received last Friday.
After I argued a bit I told him to switch me to the 2GB plan. He then noticed in the computer that I could stay on the unlimited plan and be on the 4G network.
I would call back ATT and demand you stay on the unlimited plan that you have been grandfathered into or you will cancel and leave. They don't want to lose a account that spends that much monthly.

I really hope you guys are right. I've been with AT&Greed for over 4 years now. I will try tomorrow at the Corp store where I bought it and update on here tomorrow night.
I want to make sure you all understand I'm not trying to steer anyone away from the Inspire. In fact, I actually forgot how much I liked having an HTC phone (had the 8125, 8525, and Fuze previously). Sense has been the $hit since I loaded the WinMo 6.5 ROMs! I liked the Android experience on my Captivate (minus TouchWiz) but really like what HTC has done with Sense on the Inspire. My quibble isn't with HTC, but with AT&Greed on their data plans.
I'll update tomorrow.

You have to have a "4g" sim card placed into your inspire. There is no reason for them not to let you you keep your unlimeted data. Its a different soc code for the data as well. The idiot Rep who you talked to on the phone is the single reason why att has a bad name. Im actually an att store manager and have had att years before I started with the company. Go back to the store you bought your inspire from and tell them to register your imei to the account and to give you a "4g" sim card. The system we use will make them switch the data plan as well but don't worry... you don't have to give up your unlimited. If you have any questions ill try to stay posted to this thread to help anyone out.
PS. 4g sim cards are cross compatible with 3g phones so if you ever switch back to your old phone you can use the new sim
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This should be noted
Regardless of my outcome with AT&T tomorrow, this is VERY important:
"I forgot to mention that between Sunday and Tuesday morning, my Inspire used over 500MB on AT&T's network with all the Google & HTCSense.com syncronization! This is in ADDITION to the data I transferred over my 802.11n network at home! They have geared these devices to absolutely SUCK data down their pipes with their bloatware."
Even if AT&T "allows" me "unlimited" access to their network, there are obviously programs that use their network regardless of our connection to Wi-Fi networks. Therefore, a user that isn't grandfathered into an unlimited data plan will unwittingly use data on their network even if connected via Wi-Fi. If AT&T is FORCING certain programs to use thier data network, even when connected via Wi-Fi, then it needs to be clear which programs are doing so and give the end user the ability to disable those programs. If they do not, they are guilty of a "bait and switch" scheme that is clearly outlawed by current legislation.

mgarciamma said:
You have to have a "4g" sim card placed into your inspire. There is no reason for them not to let you you keep your unlimeted data. Its a different soc code for the data as well. The idiot Rep who you talked to on the phone is the single reason why att has a bad name. Im actually an att store manager and have had att years before I started with the company. Go back to the store you bought your inspire from and tell them to register your imei to the account and to give you a "4g" sim card. The system we use will make them switch the data plan as well but don't worry... you don't have to give up your unlimited. If you have any questions ill try to stay posted to this thread to help anyone out.
PS. 4g sim cards are cross compatible with 3g phones so if you ever switch back to your old phone you can use the new sim
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Well being as I work for AT&T also, I have to say for a store manager you are not fully up to speed with all this.
Yes you need to have the SOC code for the PDA data plan switched to a 4g code, and yes you can keep unlimited. But you do NOT need a 4g sim card. Those new sims we got in with the new sku are only needed for LTE devices. All the non LTE 4G phones just need a regular 3G sim. The only thing different is the 4G SOC code for the Data plan.
Being as you are ripping the CS rep for mis information, you need to look in the mirror dude cause you're doing the same thing.

chocodough said:
Well being as I work for AT&T also, I have to say for a store manager you are not fully up to speed with all this.
Yes you need to have the SOC code for the PDA data plan switched to a 4g code, and yes you can keep unlimited. But you do NOT need a 4g sim card. Those new sims we got in with the new sku are only needed for LTE devices. All the non LTE 4G phones just need a regular 3G sim. The only thing different is the 4G SOC code for the Data plan.
Being as you are ripping the CS rep for mis information, you need to look in the mirror dude cause you're doing the same thing.
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You would be correct.

I say root, unlock, flash custom Rom which is already possible and stick it to att! I seriously can't complain because ATT has always been good to me, been with them since late 2004.

I had a Google Nexus One and used my upgrade for the Inspire. The ATT employee used my SIM card and just inserted my SIM into the inspire and I was able to keep my old iPhone Unlimited plan with no issue at all.

i upgraded my phone myself at my job. i made sure i had unlimited.

I've had unlimited data for 5 years now. I was able to keep mine with the upgrade to the inspire, but it required a long, long phone call to AT&T CS to keep it. The sales guy couldn't get their PC to let me keep unlimited without making special provisions w/ CS for some reason. Got to keep it, though.

I purchased mine from Best Buy and the CS reps called At&t and took care if every thing for me. I am also using the same sin from my Captivate. They also were doing the same for the guy next to me.
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Well I hate to say, but most CS reps at AT&T are clueless. Not all, there are some that know their stuff, but most are not very good.
Basically here is how it works if you already have the unlimited plan.
When we go to change from say a BB to an iPhone, or iPhone to PDA, or 4G PDA....etc....we go in and remove the current data plan, and just select the other one we need to put on there. If you already have say unlimited data on an iPhone, being as it's already on there, when we go to put on the 4G unlimited, it will list it and we select it no problem. If you don't already have unlimited it will not be a choice for us to select.
It's as simple as that. It's not rocket science. I am really sorry there are people who are dealing with reps who have no idea what they are doing. It's a pretty simple process to get things switched over.

chocodough said:
Well being as I work for AT&T also, I have to say for a store manager you are not fully up to speed with all this.
Yes you need to have the SOC code for the PDA data plan switched to a 4g code, and yes you can keep unlimited. But you do NOT need a 4g sim card. Those new sims we got in with the new sku are only needed for LTE devices. All the non LTE 4G phones just need a regular 3G sim. The only thing different is the 4G SOC code for the Data plan.
Being as you are ripping the CS rep for mis information, you need to look in the mirror dude cause you're doing the same thing.
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Thanks for correcting me..... but try using that 3g sim card when lte rolls around. I retract my previous statement about "needing" a 4g sim card but any att store will put one in for free. And it sounds like someone is a cs Rep?
And far as looking in the mirror... I do it every morning with a big smile! Knowing that att has paid for my house, my two vehicles, and all other necessities, I'm obviously doing something right.
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mgarciamma said:
Thanks for correcting me..... but try using that 3g sim card when lte rolls around. I retract my previous statement about "needing" a 4g sim card but any att store will put one in for free. And it sounds like someone is a cs Rep?
And far as looking in the mirror... I do it every morning with a big smile! Knowing that att has paid for my house, my two vehicles, and all other necessities, I'm obviously doing something right.
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Hehe sorry, I come across too strong sometimes.
No I am not a CS rep. I work in a COR store as well.

my unlimited data plan was removed as well. even after i specifically asked if i was able to keep it, and if not i would not upgrade. ended up spending time on the phone with customer service...and they said they had to put in a case to reinstate the unlimited data plan. i was quoted 9 days before a resolution...wtf???

man, i must have gotten one of the lucky guys in a corp store that really knew his stuff. he had made the captivate->inspire jump as well and fully understood why i was doing it. i kept my same sim that i've had since my iphone 3g and kept the same unlimited data plan. he actually told me that he recommended i keep it rather than switching to the 2gb plan because once i switch from it, there is no going back. he had my inspire up and running in no time at all and i still have my unlimited iphone account grandfathered in.

[Q] AT& T require 4G data plan!

Hi Forum,
My wife bought a Iphone 4 last year with a 200MG/ month data plan. She gave her Iphone to her nephew. She told AT&T that her Iphone was broken. She has been using my old Samsung Vibrant with no issue from AT&T, for several months now. I got her a used Infuse yesterday and was using data. AT&T sniffed it and sent a text message.
( Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4G data connection today.)
Do any one know what AT&T will do if she continue to use the Infuse?
Thank you in advance for your opinions, and knowledge!

They are going to add the data plan to your account. You have a choice currentley between 200mb/$15 @ overage rate of 200mb/$15, or 2gb/$25 @ overage rate 1gb/$10. if you dont call and choose a plan they will stick you with the 2gb/$25 rate.

Thanks!
So the options are pay more for data or back to the Vibrant! Do you think calling them and explain the situation would change anything?

Romeo20 said:
So the options are pay more for data or back to the Vibrant! Do you think calling them and explain the situation would change anything?
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Call them until you get a rep that does what you want. That usually does it, haha. I'm sure this situation could be no exception.
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You can try calling and yelling all you want, theres always that small chance you may get sombody to bend a rule for you. However it is at&t's policy that with all smartphones you are required to have a data plan, so understand you are on the losing side of the battle and can only HOPE sombody bends the rule for you to allow you to continue with no data plan.

She has data plan, 200 mg/ per month for $15. AT&T want her to have 4G data plan.

Romeo20 said:
She has data plan, 200 mg/ per month for $15. AT&T want her to have 4G data plan.
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well than your just on the wrong 200mb/$15 plan, pricing is same for 3g/4g devcies the feature code is just different. call and get it fixed so they dont change you to the $25 plan or somthing stupid

Thank you all!
I resolve the issue with AT&T. After over 30 minutes on the phone, AT&T rep said that I need to provide the SIM and IME number of the Infuse. The data plan is still the same which is 200 Mg/ month for $15. As first, AT&T tried to hook a new 2G data plan. I did not complaint or yell; in fact, I was very polite. I stated that the Vibrant was not getting Voice mail notification, and that my wife hardly use the 200 MG that she has per month. Anyhow, a bit of patience and gratitude seem to do it, this time!

Tomdg07 said:
You can try calling and yelling all you want, theres always that small chance you may get sombody to bend a rule for you. However it is at&t's policy that with all smartphones you are required to have a data plan, so understand you are on the losing side of the battle and can only HOPE sombody bends the rule for you to allow you to continue with no data plan.
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Back when I got my HTC Tilt I had a very annoying situation with them. At the time of contract signing I was told I had to have a data plan. 3 months later on a night I was not even around my phone I had a $200 data charge for megabytes upon megabytes of transfer charges. Complained to high heaven, and had ALL data service cut to my line.
Fast forward to this past Sept, got online to upgrade our two phones. Well it seems I got lucky and got an Infuse WITHOUT any data plan. Kind of annoying I have someone trying to text my photos...wink wink, that I can not receive. However our other phone AT&T was kind enough to automatically add the data plan (most expensive one of course) without indicating this. Only when we got the October bill that I saw this. *** I just hate these mobile carriers with a passion. Been years of bend over and take it up the arse with this fools. Actually had AT&T try to change terms AFTER a contract was signed.
Honestly folks, with these phones how having Google Voice, we have actually talked about saying FU to ALL carriers and just using the internet. Yeah, so I cant call when I am driving...dont want to talk then anyways. Just anything I could do to give these **** the finger.

i wouldn't imagine they can do anything if you didnt buy the phone on contract. but if you are on an iphone unlimited plan they might try like hell to get you off of it.

ssa2204 said:
Actually had AT&T try to change terms AFTER a contract was signed.
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Are you referring to the terms and cinditions YOU signed, which actually state subject to change at any time without giving notice?
I also want to remind you, you can also leave att at any time
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If you buy your smartphone outright, paid full price, they can not make you buy a data plan.
But, you then "can not" use your phone to access the internet or e-mail unless on WiFi. Or they can/will force a data plan on you.
Texting and MMS are part of the Phone plan not data.

Truckerglenn said:
If you buy your smartphone outright, paid full price, they can not make you buy a data plan.
But, you then "can not" use your phone to access the internet or e-mail unless on WiFi. Or they can/will force a data plan on you.
Texting and MMS are part of the Phone plan not data.
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unless you have smartphone exclusion, get a dumb phone, put the infuse on that sim card and turn off data.

If u are in contract with att and you buy a phone out of contract u are still required to have a data plan as long as its on an active acct.
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FIX !!!
1. Get a.dummy phone put sim card in it and have att put your number on that phone
2. Have them remove data on that phone
3. Hang up with att
4. turn OFF DATA on the infuse(long press power button and turn mobile data off)
also delete att APN
5 enjoy your phone with out att adding data plan on your phone and still use wifi
Ive been using this method for years. Cheers

Justinfedor said:
If u are in contract with att and you buy a phone out of contract u are still required to have a data plan as long as its on an active acct.
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not if you have smart phone exclusion. my brother uses my old captivate without mms or data on att. only if you lose smart phone exclusion do they force it on you, so if you have a number that never had a data plan you are good, if you had a data plan and got rid of it and bought another phone you need to change phone numbers and sign a new contract to get smartphone exclusion. also how many people are using iphone unlimited plans and arent forced to upgrade to a 4g plan? only people who are suspected of tethering are forced to change.

Dani897 said:
not if you have smart phone exclusion. my brother uses my old captivate without mms or data on att. only if you lose smart phone exclusion do they force it on you, so if you have a number that never had a data plan you are good, if you had a data plan and got rid of it and bought another phone you need to change phone numbers and sign a new contract to get smartphone exclusion. also how many people are using iphone unlimited plans and arent forced to upgrade to a 4g plan? only people who are suspected of tethering are forced to change.
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The smartphone exclusion is being removed if someone has it on the acct and upgrades to a diff phone and data plan. So make sure he doesnt get data added on it
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I tryed to change the 3G to a 4G plan (switch from Captivate to Infuse) online.
This did not work right away and so I started a chat with an ATT representative and it was taken care of in no time!
I am jsut wondering, if ya'll ain't got no datat plan. What do you use your smartphone for?

timf79 said:
I tryed to change the 3G to a 4G plan (switch from Captivate to Infuse) online.
This did not work right away and so I started a chat with an ATT representative and it was taken care of in no time!
I am jsut wondering, if ya'll ain't got no datat plan. What do you use your smartphone for?
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Media player and phone. Before I got my unlimited data plan, I didn't have much of a need for a data plan as I was always on campus using their wifi.

Romeo20 said:
I resolve the issue with AT&T. After over 30 minutes on the phone, AT&T rep said that I need to provide the SIM and IME number of the Infuse. The data plan is still the same which is 200 Mg/ month for $15. As first, AT&T tried to hook a new 2G data plan. I did not complaint or yell; in fact, I was very polite. I stated that the Vibrant was not getting Voice mail notification, and that my wife hardly use the 200 MG that she has per month. Anyhow, a bit of patience and gratitude seem to do it, this time!
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In case anyone comes here with the same question.. I started off with the 2 gig plan a year and a half after they canceled the unlimited plan. Popped my SIM card into the original iPhone set it up in iTunes and 20 minutes later had the unlimited data plan. Popped my SIM card in later that day and get that text every month. Just don't call or mention it. Hint: They don't really care.

how can i keep this phone without a plan

What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this

att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price

polish_pat said:
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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I know, they sent me some BS email, saying that smartphones require a data plan.
They are designed for surfing the internet and use a lot of data. You are required a data plan

BookinZ06 said:
What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...

k4ce said:
Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att

BookinZ06 said:
Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
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When they identify your phone as a smartphone, they don't do it through the data you send them, they don't through your imei number which is broadcast to att via your sim. So an app or rom won't do you any good. I can't speak for att, but tmobile has a similar policy with all smartphones requiring data but i have used a Nokia n8 on their network for 2 years without anyone tacking on a data plan.
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I'm on at&t prepaid $2/day without data - so far. I bought a data package before they changed their policy to monthly only for smartphones plus data package. I don't talk/text every day, so $2/day seemed worth trying. When they switched policies, I just did not buy a data package and as far as I know, I don't have at&t data access. But I have been able to use my phone for calls. Don't know what will happen when my $100 runs out, but that will probably be several months from now. Meantime I have a mobile hotspot I can use if out and about and think it necessary to check emails.
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You have to talk to a super visor. I have a the nexus without a data plan on att. Had to jump thru hoops though, rep said its done automatically through there computers so it had to be over ridded. And I had to call back
3 times because no one would do it for me.
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One XL without LTE

I think I understand the logic behind this question, but I'm going to ask anyway because I want to see if there are any policy pitfalls before I take the plunge and purchase a One XL. This specifically is about AT&T and their LTE network.
I have an Inspire 4G on the AT&T network and I would like to buy the One XL and just transfer my SIM card (by either cutting mine down or by stopping by an AT&T store and purchasing one of the mini SIM cards). I don't want to have to sign up for a new contract because I have an old grandfathered data plan (unlimited) and I don't need the LTE network... I'm perfectly happy with the HSPDA speeds I've been receiving.
Has anyone done something similar or ran into any problems with attaining a new SIM card and not having to move to a new data plan?
On a side note, I was going to give my Inspire 4G to my girlfriend to replace her Iphone 3GS. I understand the SIM card is the same size and she doesn't have an Iphone specific plan... it's basic voice + unlimited data for smartphones. Anyone have issues with that type of transfer either?

Just go to an AT&T store, and they should give you a MicroSIM for free, as they usually do for account holders.
Further, you do want to add LTE to your account. You can do so and keep your unlimited data plan. You just have to be specific about telling them to do it, and make sure they do it right. Its not completely straighforward for them. It took them about 15 minutes to figure out how to do it, and the rep had to call his manager over. They technically need to put you on a "new" data plan, but it says "unlimited data with LTE" and its only available for grandfathered customers. Its really the same plan you were on before, just with LTE added. Its no extra fee, you keep unlimited data, and you get the smoking fast LTE speeds. Plus your cap before getting throttled goes up to 5 GB, versus 3 GB for non-LTE plans.
Whether you want to stay off contract, and just pay full retail for the phone, versus subsidized pricing and an additional 2 year commitment is up to you. But all I've mentioned above should be true in either case.
Your GF should be fine putting her SIM into your old Inspire.

sarichter said:
I think I understand the logic behind this question, but I'm going to ask anyway because I want to see if there are any policy pitfalls before I take the plunge and purchase a One XL. This specifically is about AT&T and their LTE network.
I have an Inspire 4G on the AT&T network and I would like to buy the One XL and just transfer my SIM card (by either cutting mine down or by stopping by an AT&T store and purchasing one of the mini SIM cards). I don't want to have to sign up for a new contract because I have an old grandfathered data plan (unlimited) and I don't need the LTE network... I'm perfectly happy with the HSPDA speeds I've been receiving.
Has anyone done something similar or ran into any problems with attaining a new SIM card and not having to move to a new data plan?
On a side note, I was going to give my Inspire 4G to my girlfriend to replace her Iphone 3GS. I understand the SIM card is the same size and she doesn't have an Iphone specific plan... it's basic voice + unlimited data for smartphones. Anyone have issues with that type of transfer either?
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I bought a One X and was able to keep my unlimited data. Also, when you go to an LTE data plan the data throttle cap for unlimited plans goes from 3GB to 5GB. There is plenty of reason to add LTE to your unlimited plan unless you really don't want a contract.
Looks like all of that was already pointed out. So X2 it.

Butters619 said:
There is plenty of reason to add LTE to your unlimited plan unless you really don't want a contract.
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You don't need a new contract commitment to add LTE. Really there is no reason not to add LTE
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redpoint73 said:
You don't need a new contract commitment to add LTE. Really there is no reason not to add LTE
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That's true. My bad. Slip in my thought process.
Maybe, just maybe, if you truly wanted better battery life you wouldn't want LTE (since there is no way to disable it on the AT&T One X). Lol.

redpoint73 said:
Just go to an AT&T store, and they should give you a MicroSIM for free, as they usually do for account holders.
Further, you do want to add LTE to your account. You can do so and keep your unlimited data plan. You just have to be specific about telling them to do it, and make sure they do it right. Its not completely straighforward for them. It took them about 15 minutes to figure out how to do it, and the rep had to call his manager over. They technically need to put you on a "new" data plan, but it says "unlimited data with LTE" and its only available for grandfathered customers. Its really the same plan you were on before, just with LTE added. Its no extra fee, you keep unlimited data, and you get the smoking fast LTE speeds. Plus your cap before getting throttled goes up to 5 GB, versus 3 GB for non-LTE plans.
Whether you want to stay off contract, and just pay full retail for the phone, versus subsidized pricing and an additional 2 year commitment is up to you. But all I've mentioned above should be true in either case.
Your GF should be fine putting her SIM into your old Inspire.
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Awesome information! Thank you so much for your help. This isn't spelled out very well anywhere on AT&T's website. I avoided the 2 year commitment with a subsidized phone because they said I would lose my unlimited data plan. I didn't want to give that up with a new contract. However, if that information isn't correct... then I need to find a store with a competent salesperson. Anyone know if that's the case?

sarichter said:
Awesome information! Thank you so much for your help. This isn't spelled out very well anywhere on AT&T's website. I avoided the 2 year commitment with a subsidized phone because they said I would lose my unlimited data plan. I didn't want to give that up with a new contract. However, if that information isn't correct... then I need to find a store with a competent salesperson. Anyone know if that's the case?
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You can call them or got into an AT&T store and they should know that you get to keep your unlimited. I bought mine through Best Buy and they can make sure unlimited stays right there, although I still called to verify after.
Anybody at the store tells you otherwise, then they are lying.

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You can call them or got into an AT&T store and they should know that you get to keep your unlimited. I bought mine through Best Buy and they can make sure unlimited stays right there, although I still called to verify after.
Anybody at the store tells you otherwise, then they are lying.
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That was easy... they did this over the phone. No changes to my account, new phone, unlimited data, LTE... very sweet! Thanks for your help again!

I have unlimited data. Got a new microsim and lte no problem. Only takes a few minutes.
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Butters619 said:
Maybe, just maybe, if you truly wanted better battery life you wouldn't want LTE (since there is no way to disable it on the AT&T One X). Lol.
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Not having LTE on your account wouldn't make a difference in that case. The phone will still scan for LTE radios, whether its on our account or not.
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sarichter said:
Awesome information! Thank you so much for your help.
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Your welcome. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for post you find helpful.
sarichter said:
I avoided the 2 year commitment with a subsidized phone because they said I would lose my unlimited data plan. I didn't want to give that up with a new contract. However, if that information isn't correct... then I need to find a store with a competent salesperson. Anyone know if that's the case?
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Looks like you've already taken care of it. But for others that may have the same question: Yeah, the salesperson needs to be pretty competent. But it seems to be getting a bit more common that people with grandfathered plans want to get LTE added to their accounts, as LTE is being launched in more and more markets, and their are more devices with LTE being offered by AT&T. So its not as bad as when they first started doing it. When the Vivid came out last year (the first LTE phone on AT&T?), I was reading lots of reports of AT&T reps accidentally taking unlimited data off people's plan, not even knowing/understanding what the customer was asking for, trying to tell them its not possible to keep unlimited data, etc.
Its gotten better since those days, but you still have to be careful its done right. Doing it in the store is good, the rep let me look on the screen to confirm the choices before finalizing each one. It did take a while for them to get it done right. The rep had to call his manager over, who had to sign onto an "older" system on his computer in order to do it, since my account was so old. But it got done, and at least they knew what I was talking about.

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Not having LTE on your account wouldn't make a difference in that case. The phone will still scan for LTE radios, whether its on our account or not.
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Your welcome. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for post you find helpful.
Looks like you've already taken care of it. But for others that may have the same question: Yeah, the salesperson needs to be pretty competent. But it seems to be getting a bit more common that people with grandfathered plans want to get LTE added to their accounts, as LTE is being launched in more and more markets, and their are more devices with LTE being offered by AT&T. So its not as bad as when they first started doing it. When the Vivid came out last year (the first LTE phone on AT&T?), I was reading lots of reports of AT&T reps accidentally taking unlimited data off people's plan, not even knowing/understanding what the customer was asking for, trying to tell them its not possible to keep unlimited data, etc.
Its gotten better since those days, but you still have to be careful its done right. Doing it in the store is good, the rep let me look on the screen to confirm the choices before finalizing each one. It did take a while for them to get it done right. The rep had to call his manager over, who had to sign onto an "older" system on his computer in order to do it, since my account was so old. But it got done, and at least they knew what I was talking about.
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Talking about 'old'... I still had a 'blue' plan from the days before cingular! They had to upgrade my plan then because I was signed up for a legacy data plan that was a weird data+voice plan that wasn't carried over. I don't recall the reason but that was before I ever had a smartphone.

sarichter said:
Talking about 'old'... I still had a 'blue' plan from the days before cingular! They had to upgrade my plan then because I was signed up for a legacy data plan that was a weird data+voice plan that wasn't carried over. I don't recall the reason but that was before I ever had a smartphone.
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Wow, that really is old. Mine is nowhere near close. I've only been on AT&T/Cingular for 11 years or so. And only had data for maybe 5 years.
Might have been some major shift in technology that required the change. My father-in-law was forced to switch cell phone plans way back in the day when they were turning off the analog system and going digital!

N5 on ATT

Hey guys, quick question: I have my 32gb N5 in hand and am trying to decide whether to jump ship to ATT. Here's a question: can I activate my N5 on ATT with a new account and new number, test drive it for two weeks, then if I'm satisfied and want to make the jump permanently from VZW, can I port my original number over and replace the new test number I just got? Can that be done seamlessly without canceling the 2 week old account and starting another with my ported number? If so that's the route I'd most likely take.
Any insight would be great, thanks in advance.

slider112 said:
Hey guys, quick question: I have my 32gb N5 in hand and am trying to decide whether to jump ship to ATT. Here's a question: can I activate my N5 on ATT with a new account and new number, test drive it for two weeks, then if I'm satisfied and want to make the jump permanently from VZW, can I port my original number over and replace the new test number I just got? Can that be done seamlessly without canceling the 2 week old account and starting another with my ported number? If so that's the route I'd most likely take.
Any insight would be great, thanks in advance.
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Yes. Number porting is designed to be done once you are ready to move over. You can open the AT&T account, test and when you are ready, you port in your number with AT&T (into your existing account, replacing your temporary number) and that automatically closes your Verizon account. If you don't want to move over, you just cancel the AT&T account and the Verizon account stays untouched.

havanahjoe said:
Yes. Number porting is designed to be done once you are ready to move over. You can open the AT&T account, test and when you are ready, you port in your number with AT&T (into your existing account, replacing your temporary number) and that automatically closes your Verizon account. If you don't want to move over, you just cancel the AT&T account and the Verizon account stays untouched.
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Boom. Exactly what I needed/wanted to hear. Will be activating this beast ASAP. Does anybody know what the ATT window is? Is it actually 2 weeks or longer?
Thanks very much for the reply

Get a GoPhone plan. Mine is $70/mo for unlimited texts and talking and 3gb data. That will give you a month. If you like it, you can port your number from Verizon when you're ready. I don't know if you can change your GoPhone number, but I don't see why not. Worst case is you have to create another GoPhone account to port your number. But unless you have a large family plan and/or are getting a new phone, GoPhone is much cheaper. For me, the sole number on my account and bringing my own device, I saved $50/mo using GoPhone instead of signing a contract.
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Get a GoPhone plan. Mine is $70/mo for unlimited texts and talking and 3gb data. That will give you a month. If you like it, you can port your number from Verizon when you're ready. I don't know if you can change your GoPhone number, but I don't see why not. Worst case is you have to create another GoPhone account to port your number. But unless you have a large family plan and/or are getting a new phone, GoPhone is much cheaper. For me, the sole number on my account and bringing my own device, I saved $50/mo using GoPhone instead of signing a contract.
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+1 for gophone. ideal for your "testing" situation.

slider112 said:
Boom. Exactly what I needed/wanted to hear. Will be activating this beast ASAP. Does anybody know what the ATT window is? Is it actually 2 weeks or longer?
Thanks very much for the reply
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You're welcome. It can vary. In CA you get 30 days, the rest of the country I think is 14 days. But, if you're bringing your own device, you don't have to sign a contract, and you shouldn't unless you're planning to get a phone free and selling it. If you don't sign a contract, you can cancel whenever you want.
The prepaid route would definitely be better, but if you are testing, postpaid pro-rated rate for 14 days will be less than prepaid for 30 days, but if you keep it, you will definitely pay more with a post paid plan. Hopefully you have a corporate discount.

Thanks guys, appreciate all the info. Gonna give things a whirl this weekend and see how coverage on ATT stacks up in my area. I've been on VZW so long I honestly have no idea what to expect, but I'm approaching it with a healthy dose of optimism :good:

slider112 said:
Thanks guys, appreciate all the info. Gonna give things a whirl this weekend and see how coverage on ATT stacks up in my area. I've been on VZW so long I honestly have no idea what to expect, but I'm approaching it with a healthy dose of optimism :good:
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Do you know how T-Mobile works in your area? Might be worth a check. They work great for me in San Diego, and with truly unlimited data for $70, I use between 12 and 15 GB a month without a problem. Their HSPA (4G) is almost always faster than AT&T's, and their LTE will often beat Verizon and AT&T in the same location, but if not, it's very consistent (and better than Sprint's). I never see any non HSPA (EDGE) coverage where I spend my time, but, it can be a problem if you're not in a very densely populated area.
Your mileage will vary of course, but might be worth checking out. They have a $50 (online only) pre-paid plan that comes with 5 GB of high speed data and throttled after. Could be useful for testing. They had a promo where their BYOD SIM cards were $0 with free shipping, but it's over now. They are $10 now, which is not bad at all.
My Nexus 5 does not show me what kind of network I am seeing, but, with some tricks, you can easily scan for LTE from all providers in your area. Use the *#*#4636#*#* menu to enable LTE only, then do a network search and see if T-Mobile, AT&T and/or Sprint pop up (Verizon will pop up if you are in an AWS enabled area). This can help you determine who has coverage in the areas of interest without spending a dime.
You can then force it on WCDMA and do the same test, and see what the phone sees. This will give you an idea of who has service, but not of the signal strength. I don't think the N5 has a way of looking at dBm of networks it can see without registering on them (or without a SIM card).