[Q] Photon Q - any way to get GSM working? :) - Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE

Yes, it will be the first question.
If anybody will have to disassemble it, please say us or give pics!:good:

Lol shouldn't root be first
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sure. but photon 4g thing (insert abroad sim card and use it) really impressed me, that's why the question was asked

I live outside US, most people here uses GSM network, that's why some "global phone / world phone" that released in US, can be use here.
but, that phones has "removable" SIM Card, which is simply put GSM SIM Card inside these phones than we can use it in my country.
personally, I use Droid Incre2 and Photon 4G but, would like to try this new Photon Q. Since it just came out on Sunday (August 19), there's not much info about the "global phone" capabilities, except the "embedded / soldered SIM Card"??
would u mind guys, to show us here, what kind of this "embedded / soledered SIM Card" looks like? do we still can see the SIM Card inside the phone? or not?
If it's true non-removable SIM Card, looks like I can't use this phone outside US, except I use it in CDMA network only

cloud_9 said:
I live outside US, most people here uses GSM network, that's why some "global phone / world phone" that released in US, can be use here.
but, that phones has "removable" SIM Card, which is simply put GSM SIM Card inside these phones than we can use it in my country.
personally, I use Droid Incre2 and Photon 4G but, would like to try this new Photon Q. Since it just came out on Sunday (August 19), there's not much info about the "global phone" capabilities, except the "embedded / soldered SIM Card"??
would u mind guys, to show us here, what kind of this "embedded / soledered SIM Card" looks like? do we still can see the SIM Card inside the phone? or not?
If it's true non-removable SIM Card, looks like I can't use this phone outside US, except I use it in CDMA network only
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Unless a method is discovered to safely remove the SIM and carrier unlock the phone to accept a generic SIM, I don't don't this device is going to be for you.

Its unknown yet as the only way of really knowing is voiding the warranty by removing the battery. Our answer is under the battery
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tsdeaton said:
Its unknown yet as the only way of really knowing is voiding the warranty by removing the battery. Our answer is under the battery
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the first chance i get at work, im going to take this baby apart and see if the sim card is actually removable or if it's just an aproximation of a simcard integrated into the board.

heldunder said:
the first chance i get at work, im going to take this baby apart and see if the sim card is actually removable or if it's just an aproximation of a simcard integrated into the board.
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confirmed, there's no "sim card" in the phone it's just gsm enabled with a micro chip in the phone. -_- easy as hell to take apart... the back cover pops right off, no glue no screws. lol

heldunder said:
confirmed, there's no "sim card" in the phone it's just gsm enabled with a micro chip in the phone. -_- easy as hell to take apart... the back cover pops right off, no glue no screws. lol
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Could you post some pictures of the disassemble please?

heldunder said:
confirmed, there's no "sim card" in the phone it's just gsm enabled with a micro chip in the phone. -_- easy as hell to take apart... the back cover pops right off, no glue no screws. lol
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thanks for the info bro, but would u mind to take a picture of it? really appreciate it

heldunder said:
confirmed, there's no "sim card" in the phone it's just gsm enabled with a micro chip in the phone. -_- easy as hell to take apart... the back cover pops right off, no glue no screws. lol
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As others have stated pictures, and if you can see model number of the microchip.

gTen said:
As others have stated pictures, and if you can see model number of the microchip.
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ofcourse someone had to one up me and post pics. lol

heldunder said:
ofcourse someone had to one up me and post pics. lol
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You can never have enough pics...
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hopefully there will be an option to put a sim card in this device.... otherwise I can't do sh*t with this device.. (I ordered one yesterday, for shipment to the Netherlands)

draven187 said:
hopefully there will be an option to put a sim card in this device.... otherwise I can't do sh*t with this device.. (I ordered one yesterday, for shipment to the Netherlands)
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If I were you I'd see if you can cancel the order, at least for the time being.

hi all...
I'd like to buy photon q for parts - bad esn / water damage ...etc.
I need it for check board for possibility connect sim slot.
...let me know

GSM SIM
I stay outside US where GSM is the way of life.
Get a GSM SIM, insert in any handset and start using.
Anyway I will be able to do the same with this handset??

....maybe....but first must i see full service manual, or board

If the first Photon 4G could be used successfully with GSM connections, it should be possible with this one too right? Is anything fundamentally different between the two?

r3flux said:
If the first Photon 4G could be used successfully with GSM connections, it should be possible with this one too right? Is anything fundamentally different between the two?
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AFAIK, Photon Q uses "embedded SIM Card", there is no slot for usual SIM Card. The GSM network will run on this baby but via Sprint's roaming capabilities..which means, it can be use outside US for GSM Service but still in Sprint's network..

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Check your similar card

My phone has been running super slow ... called national help desk.. was told i had a OLD 2g sim card... Rep said NEW SIM CARDS have a black TM and then a number on gold side of similar card.. might wanna check yours... after my 4g sim was switched there was a huge increase in 4g internet speed...
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surfnhawaii808 said:
My phone has been running super slow ... called national help desk.. was told i had a OLD 2g sim card... Rep said NEW SIM CARDS have a black TM and then a number on gold side of similar card.. might wanna check yours... after my 4g sim was switched there was a huge increase in 4g internet speed...
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Oooh lord not this BS again. Hey guy why spread these rumors for? Do you work for TMobile and trying to get people to buy SIM Cards for $9.99? The fact is this theory has actually never been proven and there are people like myself who can verify who used 2-3years simcard and saw same speed. But the thing is old simcard had less memory for storage along with limit as how many time it could connect to the network for data connection before burnt out but sim could still be used for voice and edge. There is no such thing 4G simcard lol its just another failed attempt at cheap marketing go test your old "3G" simcard in MT4G and compare it with new "4G" simcard I grantee it you will not see any results, lets not fall for the companies BS okay folks this is what we call placebo effect.
Dude I have no idea what the heck your talking about.. or if you know what your talking about yourself..
Anyway my phone NOW has a UICC 4g sim card now, the old card was NOT A VICC card and help desk Rep said that old sim card should not have been Put in my phone to begin with, it was a oversight on tmos part. (Note it was placed in phone by MANAGER.. LOL!) .. the sim pattern on gold side of sim looks totally different than the gold contact side on old sim card (slow one!) Old Had several sections on the gold contact side, new one has FEW sections. Tmo national help desk verified i had new and correct sim card now. After it was swapped out at tmo, i called help desk back, and they said ".. looking at your phone i now see to have a 4g sim..." and he said its a VICC SIM..
Anyway phone is at least 4x faster on 4g.. i went from 1.2 mbps to 4.2 mbps while at store and with VICC sim... so for me it was the sim, i wouldnt have believed it myself if i had not see it myself on same phone at exact same spot with different sim cards...
Again if your internet is slow and it shows "H" check your sim card.
Again it was free to swap old sim for a new sim .. and it made a huge difference on my phone here in Hawaii.
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Old sim...
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832797.png
NEW VICC SIM....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832736.png
Pictures speak for themselves...
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BlackSHELF said:
Oooh lord not this BS again. Hey guy why spread these rumors for? Do you work for TMobile and trying to get people to buy SIM Cards for $9.99
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Boy, your a ARROGANT jerk
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Ya I don't know what I'm talking about last time I checked I was the network admin with 2years sIC in telemetry. Matter of fact I know one of the foremost authority in person with PBE as he manage and builds and consults for FCC. You going to teach me the HSPA+ Rv1? Do you even know how to modify the setting manually? Much less access it? Lol @ national desk center. H can mean anything as you can access the data via UTMS and HSDPA. Most problem happens as people like you keep taking it out for silly reasons like this as its delicate. Don't ever confuse defect with standard go find me 4G simcard for GSM.
PS: There is no such thing as VICC 4G SimCard, go find me technical doc for it.
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surfnhawaii808 said:
Old sim...
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832797.png
NEW VICC SIM....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832736.png
Pictures speak for themselves...
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That proves what your defect card? Do I need to pop my old simcard and take some silly photo with actual network overhead which you can't access and show my point which is direct contradiction to your so called finding which is defect. Go post this in official TMo forum and see what happens lol also bring those national desk techs to join. This is just isolated how come it can't be replicated?
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BlackSHELF said:
Ya I don't know what I'm talking about last time I checked I was the network admin with 2years sIC in telemetry. Matter of fact I know one of the foremost authority in person with PBE as he manage and builds and consults for FCC. You going to teach me the HSPA+ Rv1? Do you even know how to modify the setting manually? Much less access it? Lol @ national desk center. H can mean anything as you can access the data via UTMS and HSDPA. Most problem happens as people like you keep taking it out for silly reasons like this as its delicate. Don't ever confuse defect with standard go find me 4G simcard for GSM.
PS: There is no such thing as VICC 4G SimCard, go find me technical doc for it.
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Dude, all he did was share an experience he had. He didn't tell anyone to go give money to tmo. He had an old card that wasn't working well for whatever reason and a replacement fixed the issue. You may be right about the technicalities in this regard, but nobody respects an arrogant **** even when he is right.
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i foresee Option visiting this thread...shortly
TJBunch1228 said:
Dude, all he did was share an experience he had. He didn't tell anyone to go give money to tmo. He had an old card that wasn't working well for whatever reason and a replacement fixed the issue. You may be right about the technicalities in this regard, but nobody respects an arrogant **** even when he is right.
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Now if he said that then we wouldn't be having problem. But you have to understand that not everyone is registered in XDA as so many folks just browse web and come here from search. People who don't understand will read it and waste money on thing that haven't been even proven. Like I said it was defect which I can live with that's the beauty of forum if you start a thread lol then post some screenshots then try to push some miss information claiming its correct because some fools at desk center with CompITA certified said so then it has to be corrected. Btw who comes online for respect? You don't have to know me or like me but you will know the truth even when its little bitter. Without people like me they would have a blast at gimmick targeting users who don't know better.
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surfnhawaii808 said:
Old sim...
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832797.png
NEW VICC SIM....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832736.png
Pictures speak for themselves...
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I have a question about the pics you posted... From the time stamp the old card was tested after you tested the new card? Doesn't tmo cancel the old card to transfer your data to the new one? And you had a minute to power off, switch card, boot up and test again?
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I have a question about the pics you posted... From the time stamp the old card was tested after you tested the new card? Doesn't tmo cancel the old card to transfer your data to the new one? And you had a minute to power off, switch card, boot up and test again?
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Not to mention that the old sim was done after the new one based on the times....
From my permarooted 1209mhz G2 with CM7 nightly 6
When I had tmobile change my sim card I had to give them the new sim number so they would disable old one and enable new one. That was instantaneous but.... One minute to replace card, retest....?
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Fact: "4G sim cards" are a gimmick..for now at least.
Fact: Older sim cards have had several documented issues with slower data and dropped/missed calls. Why else do you think it is *recommended* to change to the newer versions?
Fact: T-Mobile does NOT charge for a sim swap. However, they do charge (in-store) if you're requesting a new one and don't have the old one with you.
As for the pictures though, I'm gonna call them bogus. I just felt that some things needed subtle clarity without being a douchebag.
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I understand that you're just trying to state the facts and such but the op had success in doing what he did and that's why he's sharing it with us. What other explanation do you have for his success?
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vikashfoolsu said:
I understand that you're just trying to state the facts and such but the op had success in doing what he did and that's why he's sharing it with us. What other explanation do you have for his success?
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Read the whole thread you will understand it.
1) Original SIM defected.
2) Old SIM deactivated when new activated.
Don't forget explanation means nothing as we want results which means under same condition everyone should be able to replicate it. Then only then can it be called facts as its applicable proven.
surfnhawaii808 said:
Old sim...
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832797.png
NEW VICC SIM....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/35832736.png
Pictures speak for themselves...
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Uicc sim card.... and yes it will make a difference BC old Sims are rated at 90000 connections. The Uicc sim cards are unlimited connections and support faster provisioning.
http://www.justaskgemalto.com/en/communicating/tips/what-uicc-and-how-it-different-sim-card
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sk337sk337 said:
Uicc sim card.... and yes it will make a difference BC old Sims are rated at 90000 connections. The Uicc sim cards are unlimited connections and support faster provisioning.
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Now taking it that since we are using HSPA+ Rv1 the limit is 21mbps which is throttled to 14mbps on MT4G and TMo close to 7mbps now as you can see half of that mostly used on UTMS/HSDPA. Now far as the unlimited connection goes as we are aware of that as I stated but far as provisioning faster tier goes it subjective. As this has been discussed in the past with little to no result.
surfnhawaii808 said:
http://www.justaskgemalto.com/en/communicating/tips/what-uicc-and-how-it-different-sim-card
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Thank you for not understanding what you read and posting the first thing you found on Google search.
Is there a possibility that this could be explained by an old and worn-out card as opposed to technical differences?
I'm using a 5 year old card and it seems fine.
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Putting thunderbolt sim chip in droid charge?

What will happen? Will the phone activate just like on AT&T? I know you cant switch back and forth with an iPhone since its all 3G CDMA etc... but will the sim chip change that? Can you hot swap?
It should, from what I heard, work like any other GSM phone.
So yea, your SIM should make you be able to make calls, text and data on the Charge.
Yes you are correct
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You still must register the device in their system. However, once you do, its all activated.
Is there a reference, like a white paper or a tech spec that can actually answer this question? This Tbolt is not the first Verizon phone I've had with a SIM card, and just like this thing, they worked just fine without the thing. How do calling functions transfer with the card when it has nothing to do with the SIM card or LTE?
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Is there a reference, like a white paper or a tech spec that can actually answer this question? This Tbolt is not the first Verizon phone I've had with a SIM card, and just like this thing, they worked just fine without the thing. How do calling functions transfer with the card when it has nothing to do with the SIM card or LTE?
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Per Verizon Website:
http://support.vzw.com/clc/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html
Yes. You may activate any 4G LTE device that has been certified by Verizon Wireless to be compatible with our 4G LTE network, including devices not purchased directly from Verizon Wireless. Simply activate your 4G SIM card on a Verizon Wireless price plan.
I don't see anything that say you have to activate the device only the sim card.
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What will happen? Will the phone activate just like on AT&T? I know you cant switch back and forth with an iPhone since its all 3G CDMA etc... but will the sim chip change that? Can you hot swap?
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I have done this numerous times. Just insert SIM and you can instantly make a test call.
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[Q] Issue getting straight talk to work on my device (Htc Inspire 4g)

Hello. I have a Htc Inspire that I bought off ebay brand new sealed. I ordered the straight talk sim for At&t device and activated the sim online. The sim activated fine (I have used this same sim in another At&t phone and was able to make a call without issue). I cant for the life of me get this sim to work in my Htc Inspire. I have used google, the forum here plus others. Read and read but I have only seen issues with people not getting the mms to work or how there Inspire 4g works great. If anybody can point me in the right direction I thank you very much.
***Info about the phone***
Bought phone new on ebay sealed in original box
Unlocked from code bought on ebay (dont think I needed it but ST employee gave me this as a possible issue)
Tried the sim in another phone (worked without issue)
Network settings:
Operator name: Unknown
Signal strength: 0
Mobile network type: Unknown
Service state: Out of service
Software information:
Android version: 2.3.3
mackbuddy said:
Hello. I have a Htc Inspire that I bought off ebay brand new sealed. I ordered the straight talk sim for At&t device and activated the sim online. The sim activated fine (I have used this same sim in another At&t phone and was able to make a call without issue). I cant for the life of me get this sim to work in my Htc Inspire. I have used google, the forum here plus others. Read and read but I have only seen issues with people not getting the mms to work or how there Inspire 4g works great. If anybody can point me in the right direction I thank you very much.
***Info about the phone***
Bought phone new on ebay sealed in original box
Unlocked from code bought on ebay (dont think I needed it but ST employee gave me this as a possible issue)
Tried the sim in another phone (worked without issue)
Network settings:
Operator name: Unknown
Signal strength: 0
Mobile network type: Unknown
Service state: Out of service
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Android version: 2.3.3
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Somehow i don't really know about that but... Try upgrading the radio. Search around the forums for the radio images and stuff. It might come in handy.
ZhakamiZhako said:
Somehow i don't really know about that but... Try upgrading the radio. Search around the forums for the radio images and stuff. It might come in handy.
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Can you explain a little about what this may do. I only see people mention it with custom roms. I have a stock phone. Thanks for the reply.
First off what phone did it work in? Please post your apn and ill do my best to help you.
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Ok , I figured out my issue. Yes I do feel like a complete idiot. Simple fix was to put the bottom cover on ( the one that covers the sd & sim card). This can be closed or marked as fixed.
mackbuddy said:
Ok , I figured out my issue. Yes I do feel like a complete idiot. Simple fix was to put the bottom cover on ( the one that covers the sd & sim card). This can be closed or marked as fixed.
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Yes lol that cover is actually the radio antenna because it's built in... For future reference if you start having signal issues proceed to ebay and by a new battery door and sim/sd door it cost me 5 bucks brand new.
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enigma2446 said:
Yes lol that cover is actually the radio antenna because it's built in... For future reference if you start having signal issues proceed to ebay and by a new battery door and sim/sd door it cost me 5 bucks brand new.
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Ok thanks for the tip buddy.

[Q] Rooted and S-off... Will Verizon notice?

Hey guys, i have a rooted and soffed m8 currently running viperrom. I plan on switching the phone around to another line soon. Will anything the reps do flag that my phone has been modded? Also, if they will be able to know, is there anyway to return the phone to complete stock and not have the tampered sign on the fastboot screen? Thanks guys
Is it an existing line on your account? If so, you just need to pop in the SIM card from that line without vzw even touching it. If you're adding a line and want to put the m8 on it, just call them and have them send out a SIM to you. You don't even need to have them see the device if I understand your intentions.
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As far as I know carriers don't care unless you are trying to claim a warranty then there is a small chance they could void it.
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Is it an existing line on your account? If so, you just need to pop in the SIM card from that line without vzw even touching it. If you're adding a line and want to put the m8 on it, just call them and have them send out a SIM to you. You don't even need to have them see the device if I understand your intentions.
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I was under the impression that the 4g sim card only gave you service, and did not switch your number and everything?? Sorry, to clarify, I will be swapping phones with another person on my plan. (All with Verizon) The other person is using their upgrade, and then we are trading phones, but want to keep our numbers.
Sim card changes phones numbers and everything, I do it all the time. Only issue you might run into is if the sim cards are different sizes, then you need to either get crafty with scissors or have Verizon activate the actual sim cards.
teckels said:
Sim card changes phones numbers and everything, I do it all the time. Only issue you might run into is if the sim cards are different sizes, then you need to either get crafty with scissors or have Verizon activate the actual sim cards.
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Thanks
teckels said:
Sim card changes phones numbers and everything, I do it all the time. Only issue you might run into is if the sim cards are different sizes, then you need to either get crafty with scissors or have Verizon activate the actual sim cards.
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Crafty with scissors works just fine. I just trimmed down my micro SIM from my G2 to use in my new m8. Getting the nano to micro adapter to swap back whenever I want to.
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TylerG3 said:
Sorry, to clarify, I will be swapping phones with another person on my plan. (All with Verizon) The other person is using their upgrade, and then we are trading phones, but want to keep our numbers.
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I think you might be able to do what you want on the VZW website w/o having anyone actually see the phone, if so, you have no worries.

T-Mobile not working with OPO

Hey everyone thanks for your help in advance... I just bought my phone and went to T-Mobile to get a new micro Sims card. After putting it in, the phone didn't recognize it. I put in the APN settings and it doesn't save it. This really sucks right now because I don't know what else to do. Any help will be greatly appreciated. And my phone isnt rooted yet, just want the stock for now. Thanks again
Is the sim activated? Sometimes on a new sim it takes a few hours to start working.
I was already on Tmo with an N5. I just moved the sim over and all was good.
NaterTots said:
Is the sim activated? Sometimes on a new sim it takes a few hours to start working.
I was already on Tmo with an N5. I just moved the sim over and all was good.
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What he said. If OP has another phone that uses a MicroSIM, put the sim in that phone and see if it works.
Also did u insert the sim properly into its slot?
zephiK said:
What he said. If OP has another phone that uses a MicroSIM, put the sim in that phone and see if it works.
Also did u insert the sim properly into its slot?
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You Quoted the wrong post.
NaterTots said:
You Quoted the wrong post.
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I actually didn't. I agreeing with what you said and added onto your point.
I didn't mean the u to be directed to NaterTots but to the OP. Sorry for the confusion.
I screwed up and instead of using my old Sim card and cutting I went into T-Mobile and had them activate a new micro Sim card and put it straight in. The old one is deactivated.
The new micro Sim does work in my old gslaxy S2 phone which used an older big Sim card. Its now using a Sim adapter.
suaverc118 said:
I screwed up and instead of using my old Sim card and cutting I went into T-Mobile and had them activate a new micro Sim card and put it straight in. The old one is deactivated.
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Did you insert the SIM card in the right direction and not upside down? I know thats silly to ask.
to be honest its simple man and actually nothing you needed to make a thread about. Simple go to TMobile store and try an already active sim card. Go to AT&T and see if they can put an active sim card to help you out. Basically go to anywhere that works with a TMobile or AT&T derivative and try it out. Nothing really else we can do to help you on this.
Not try to be rude or anything but its the truth. If none of that works then you may have to RMA. Also maybe find a friend or family member and try their sim . Good luck :good:
Should work. Using my one plus with Solavei (t-mobile based company) and having no issues.
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zephiK said:
Did you insert the SIM card in the right direction and not upside down? I know thats silly to ask.
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First time i've also put the tray wrong. True story
Just had this problem after coming from using the phone overseas and no signal whatsoever on the phone despite numerous restarts, SIM cleaning, and chats with T mobile. After verifying the APN was correct I went to Settings-->About Phone-->Status-->SIM Status and checked to see if the SIM was connected(it showed my phone number, but was disconnected). So from here went to Settings-->Mobile Networks-->Network Operators and let the phone find carriers automatically. Mine showed T-mobile(with a little SIM icon to the right of it), Verizon, and ATT. I clicked on T-Mobile and it registered and is now working.
Probably saved me $15 at the T-Mobile store. Hope this helps even just one of you.

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