Let's take our argument with AT&T Public via Facebook - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Please like and join this page. https://www.facebook.com/UnlockedAttOneXBootloader
AT&T needs to be publicly embarrassed into doing the right thing. This is a start.

gunnyman said:
Please like and join this page. https://www.facebook.com/UnlockedAttOneXBootloader
AT&T needs to be publicly embarrassed into doing the right thing. This is a start.
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Here we go!!
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I hit the like button. Not sure how to join the Page though. Facebook is not easy and I'm using my non-rooted HOX.
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I think it would be even more of an argument if every person posted on their wall complaining about the boot-loader. Then everyone would see it (users/media/fanboys/etc)

robstunner said:
I think it would be even more of an argument if every person posted on their wall complaining about the boot-loader. Then everyone would see it (users/media/fanboys/etc)
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Agreed

I've posted countless times on both AT& T's and HTC's walls. They don't give a crap.
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http://www.facebook.com/ATT?ref=ts

Thanks everyone! We need this to spread like like wildfire! This will be linked on AT&T's Facebook page eventually. I think we need to give it a week to catch to some steam. Post this anywhere you possibly can. Hit me up on Facebook. Please state its for the group!
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Maybe attach a Kony 2012 video to it.
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thcue said:
Maybe attach a Kony 2012 video to it.
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Oh God, I lol'd so hard

What do you guys expect? Obviously rooted and unlocked devices cost the carriers and MFR's $$$. In lost tethering revenue, increased RMA rates, etc. etc. Don't think for one second that ATT doesn't have a detailed analysis of what rooted users cost them in terms of both lost revenue and increased RMAs.
This is a cat and mouse game, it's futile to ask the mouse to just jump in the cat's mouth.
I don't get it.

beaups said:
What do you guys expect? Obviously rooted and unlocked devices cost the carriers and MFR's $$$. In lost tethering revenue, increased RMA rates, etc. etc. Don't think for one second that ATT doesn't have a detailed analysis of what rooted users cost them in terms of both lost revenue and increased RMAs.
This is a cat and mouse game, it's futile to ask the mouse to just jump in the cat's mouth.
I don't get it.
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Good thing I got an international one x?
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I see your point. But why can Vivid be unlocked while ours can't? Either lock all of them or none. All I want is for att to allow HTC to fulfill their pledge to unlock the bootloaders on all of their devices.

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gunnyman said:
I see your point. But why can Vivid be unlocked while ours can't? Either lock all of them or none. All I want is for att to allow HTC to fulfill their pledge to unlock the bootloaders on all of their devices.
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Good question, dunno. Is it out of warranty? Maybe once devices hit a certain age they don't fear the RMA flood.
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Good thing I got an international one x?
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Yep, and you're locked out of their latest gen network and htc is assuming no liability because you waived your warranty when you unlocked it.
Thing is, with att, even if you waive warranty on HTCDEV they have no way to check that. And they have customers in there face on a 2 year contract "hey my device just randomly stopped working, I need a new one!". What are they supposed to do?
Again, I'm not taking sides. I think we have a right to do what we're doing, I'm just saying I don't ever expect the carriers to embrace it.
And look at this angle.
With 1.85 and unlocked BL and root, I could write a cool app and submit it to the market. Some sort of backup app or boot animation or whatever, so it requires root, of course. And I could set it up to timebomb permabrick EVERY SINGLE DEVICE it was installed on by trashing SBL3. Can you understand why this makes the carriers nervous?

thcue said:
Maybe attach a Kony 2012 video to it.
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Lol
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They still sell the vivid and several other devices with unlocked bootloaders. The percentage of users who want to do what we want to do with our phones is so small that we would barely be a blip on the bottom line.

beaups said:
What do you guys expect? Obviously rooted and unlocked devices cost the carriers and MFR's $$$. In lost tethering revenue, increased RMA rates, etc. etc. Don't think for one second that ATT doesn't have a detailed analysis of what rooted users cost them in terms of both lost revenue and increased RMAs.
This is a cat and mouse game, it's futile to ask the mouse to just jump in the cat's mouth.
I don't get it.
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Couldn't say it any better!
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Right now I'm at a loss of words. I am thankful for the support shown by the community so far. The reason this whole boot loader thing got me going was my inspire 4g. I had 2 years on that phone. It was my first venture into android and i was hooked. Rooted it as soon as I understood what the risks involved. Never bricked it. I only did it to be able to back my phone up entirely. I never expected to run a custom rom. I did and never looked back. I treated that phone badly on day and needed a new one, hence the One X. I had hoped to get a 1.85 but I didn't. I spent $213 dollars over 2 years on apps and in app purchases. I just want to be able to transfer all that to this phone. That shouldn't be too hard. Unfortunately it issue without root. Who is at fault here? Is it AT&T, HTC, or even Google for not providing a way for us to have a working backup utility without root?
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[ATTN] AT&T Rep Training for checking one bootloader

First, I wasn't able to take a photo. A friend of mine is a store manager for a nearby AT&T store. I picked him coffee since I was in the area near his store. We went back in his office to chill, but one of his Sales Reps, was doing a training on how to check to see if the HTC One X bootloader was locked or unlocked for warranty/in store exchanges.
From when I used to work at AT&T, we'd do a training about 2 weeks before device came out or there was a change being made to policy or intelus.
According to my friend, the reps and himself think that AT&T will be allowing the bootloader to be unlocked through HTC DEV by the end of the month following a OTA software update.
I personally am staking like 50/50 on this because it could mean AT&T knows the devs here on XDA will unlock the bootloader, or AT&T is allowing HTC DEV to allow the unlock.
Just doing an PSA.
You just made a lot of people very happy...lol
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That's good I suppose.
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Just means IMHO that the devs here either are close or att truly is going to allow it to be unlocked either or I'd be very happy
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Do they do that so they don't have to deal with free warranty service? Thinking about it, they only going to benefit from users being able unlock their devices and void their warranty...
Next step for them would be void warranty for rooting and after that void for removing bloat.
you could always get this
http://www.zagg.com/store/services/zaggsafe/warranty_registration.php
looks like they don't care if the phone is modified
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also i get the feeling that this is good news because it most likely hints at an official unlock coming soon .
they probably dont care enough to keep tabs on our progress to getting an unoffficial unlock going
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First, I wasn't able to take a photo. A friend of mine is a store manager for a nearby AT&T store. I picked him coffee since I was in the area near his store. We went back in his office to chill, but one of his Sales Reps, was doing a training on how to check to see if the HTC One X bootloader was locked or unlocked for warranty/in store exchanges.
From when I used to work at AT&T, we'd do a training about 2 weeks before device came out or there was a change being made to policy or intelus.
According to my friend, the reps and himself think that AT&T will be allowing the bootloader to be unlocked through HTC DEV by the end of the month following a OTA software update.
I personally am staking like 50/50 on this because it could mean AT&T knows the devs here on XDA will unlock the bootloader, or AT&T is allowing HTC DEV to allow the unlock.
Just doing an PSA.
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You would make a lot of people happier if you could get s pictureof training docs. Save the devs working on the bootloader time so they can start cranking out ROMS. Do you think that's possible, not questioning your integrity, just know this community. cheers and thank you for the heads up.
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Got my fingers crossed.
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The_Zodiac said:
you could always get this
http://www.zagg.com/store/services/zaggsafe/warranty_registration.php
looks like they don't care if the phone is modified
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also i get the feeling that this is good news because it most likely hints at an official unlock coming soon .
they probably dont care enough to keep tabs on our progress to getting an unoffficial unlock going
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Do you need a zag product to qualify for this?
dkirchik said:
First, I wasn't able to take a photo. A friend of mine is a store manager for a nearby AT&T store. I picked him coffee since I was in the area near his store. We went back in his office to chill, but one of his Sales Reps, was doing a training on how to check to see if the HTC One X bootloader was locked or unlocked for warranty/in store exchanges.
From when I used to work at AT&T, we'd do a training about 2 weeks before device came out or there was a change being made to policy or intelus.
According to my friend, the reps and himself think that AT&T will be allowing the bootloader to be unlocked through HTC DEV by the end of the month following a OTA software update.
I personally am staking like 50/50 on this because it could mean AT&T knows the devs here on XDA will unlock the bootloader, or AT&T is allowing HTC DEV to allow the unlock.
Just doing an PSA.
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I am an AT&T employee. I know of no such training. We had a training on the One X, but it didn't even mention the bootloader, and warranties are not replaced in AT&T stores, but at Device Support Centers. I call shenanigans.
Exchanges within 30 days are at stores. The rest is at the DSC.
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link12245 said:
I am an AT&T employee. I know of no such training. We had a training on the One X, but it didn't even mention the bootloader, and warranties are not replaced in AT&T stores, but at Device Support Centers. I call shenanigans.
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My question would be, what market are you in? I used to work for att northern California Tahoe reno market. Which is the same store I was at where I saw this going on. Tomorrow I will be posting a photo of it for you all here in the forum.
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or maybe they are just training to see whether or not the "tampered" message appears on the phones, not necessary having anything to do with locked or unlocked bootloader. it may be a stretch to go from that to bootloader unlocking talks.
but i'll be happy if true =)
NguyenHuu said:
or maybe they are just training to see whether or not the "tampered" message appears on the phones, not necessary having anything to do with locked or unlocked bootloader. it may be a stretch to go from that to bootloader unlocking talks.
but i'll be happy if true =)
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Could be, but I wouldn't think so, unless my friend is pulling my leg. But, I will be posting the training document tomorrow afternoon to evening. I wasn't able to take a photo of the screen due to the RSC closing the training program but I was able to read the first few lines it did state checking for unlocked bootloader.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong, I'll gladly take the brutal beating you all believe ill deserve if I'm wrong.
Though I will saay, at my friends store they have a machine, not the one for transferring numbers and such from one to device to another. It works by running the stock firmware side by side with the phone. It did show my phone status as red. I am rooted. I don't exactly know how it works but now I know why they take my phone to the back when I say I have an issue.
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dkirchik said:
If I'm wrong I'm wrong, I'll gladly take the brutal beating you all believe ill deserve if I'm wrong.
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I'll get the chain flail, who has the hot tar? ;-)
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For you HTC guys...this is what us Atrix guys went through. I believe there will be a leak and your guys' BL will be unlocked.
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rjayflo said:
For you HTC guys...this is what us Atrix guys went through. I believe there will be a leak and your guys' BL will be unlocked.
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I hope the kernel source drops around the same time.
Wishful thinking.
methodz said:
Do you need a zag product to qualify for this?
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i dont think you do, it doesnt mention it anywhere.
I doubt this, i exchanged my rooted and flashed one x today for a grey one and the lady didnt even turn it on lol
Nickel Dime Bay said:
I doubt this, i exchanged my rooted and flashed one x today for a grey one and the lady didnt even turn it on lol
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I checked your pro, I'm also in the bay. Now I'm wondering if it's because his store returns exchanges for any reason.
Thought his asm is really anal and will compare and spend 15 minutes staring at it.
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[Warning] OTA Rumor/RUU download

This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)
Needs a sticky!
Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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18th.abn said:
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.
iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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SoberGuy said:
It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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ChongoDroid said:
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.
Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.
PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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Guys can we do anything about what HTC and at&t are doing to us?

okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.
Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
XNine said:
Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.
karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
lazarat said:
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.
vioalas said:
We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
XNine said:
Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?
gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?

Engagdet [HTC ONE X+] Rumour

http://m.engadget.com/2012/09/07/HTC-One-X-specs-leaked-tweet/?icid=eng_latest_art
May be we would be seeing new improved htc one x
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They could offer new and improved to many by simply unlocking the bootloader. I maybe wrong, but my gut feeling says most people in this community are not going to be upgrading.
If your unlocked, why trade up for a phone that likely isnt going to be htcdev supported. And if your one thats stuck with locked and no root, you can expect this device to implement at minimum, the same level of /system protection as the current hoxl. HTC could go BIG and announce the X+ will be unlockable, but if you were stuck unrooted that would just piss me off all the more.
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*Dumb unfactual rant*
Is this just the Tegra chipset that supports LTE? Slightly faster CPU, but not by much. Only seems to be an "upgrade" to get the international users on LTE in their respective countries/carriers.
redpoint73 said:
Is this just the Tegra chipset that supports LTE? Slightly faster CPU, but not by much. Only seems to be an "upgrade" to get the international users on LTE in their respective countries/carriers.
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Yea, this is just tmobiles version of the international one x with lte
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this isn't for us, sorry
superchilpil said:
Yea, this is just tmobiles version of the international one x with lte
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T-Mobile in the US doesn't have LTE, or will any time soon.
But I think you're right about this being for T-Mobile. I remember reading that T-Mob was coming out with a variant of the One X/X+. The (slighlty upgraded) Tegra3 chipset without LTE would make sense for T-Mobile.
Cool, the perfect thread for my completely empty, meaningless response. Today, just might be my day!
Just what we want, to support a new phone that comes out with locked bootloaders and no way to root.
I was just thinking the extra confusion it'll cause on the forums with another similar model, another brick in the wall, or several coming up I bet.
WR
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qwertyaas said:
Just what we want, to support a new phone that comes out with locked bootloaders and no way to root.
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1. This phone isnt for att
2. When will people drop this? Atleast they are giving the option, it's not their fault att doesn't want us to unlock.
I remember before all of this it was either s off or nothing.
With my old phone the rezound, they went against Verizon's wishes and allowed us to unlock the bootloader. Basically it lost all support afterwards, became the red headed step child of Verizon you can say
I don't think HTC wants this for their flagship phone
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redpoint73 said:
T-Mobile in the US doesn't have LTE, or will any time soon.
But I think you're right about this being for T-Mobile. I remember reading that T-Mob was coming out with a variant of the One X/X+. The (slighlty upgraded) Tegra3 chipset without LTE would make sense for T-Mobile.
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actually just before leaving tmobile (familys plan on att was significantly cheaper or I would have never switched over to bull**** att ) i was talking on the phone with them though about a sudden slow down in net speeds one week and they explained they were likely to end soon and was a result of them preping for lte. so it may be closer around the corner than thought.
LesserAnimal said:
actually just before leaving tmobile (familys plan on att was significantly cheaper or I would have never switched over to bull**** att ) i was talking on the phone with them though about a sudden slow down in net speeds one week and they explained they were likely to end soon and was a result of them preping for lte. so it may be closer around the corner than thought.
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Hmm, seems like T-Mobile has been messing around with their HSPA+ speeds as "part of the carrier's 4G network evolution plan" and possibly even deploy LTE-Advanced (not just LTE) in 2013: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/t-mobile-lte-advanced-trials/
I don't really keep up, since its not my carrier. But I didn't think they were even on track to deploy LTE anytime soon. Well, I guess technically that's true, since it seems like they may be skipping it for LTE-Advanced, lol!
18th.abn said:
They could offer new and improved to many by simply unlocking the bootloader. I maybe wrong, but my gut feeling says most people in this community are not going to be upgrading.
If your unlocked, why trade up for a phone that likely isnt going to be htcdev supported. And if your one thats stuck with locked and no root, you can expect this device to implement at minimum, the same level of /system protection as the current hoxl. HTC could go BIG and announce the X+ will be unlockable, but if you were stuck unrooted that would just piss me off all the more.
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*Dumb unfactual rant*
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That's true... I wish we get s-off or offical bootloader unlocked very soon
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/htc-one-x-plus-fcc-lte/
This kind of sucks. A lot.
stoopid2001 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/htc-one-x-plus-fcc-lte/
This kind of sucks. A lot.
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I know man, our HOX's suck all of a sudden. I can't believe how slow my phone became after reading that. It's almost unusable now.
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stoopid2001 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/htc-one-x-plus-fcc-lte/
This kind of sucks. A lot.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I know man, our HOX's suck all of a sudden. I can't believe how slow my phone became after reading that. It's almost unusable now.
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While I understand his point and your sarcasm, I feel the same way as Stoopid2001. I have a 6 month old phone that is already being replaced. That's a bit disappointing.
That's the downside to buying Android. There's NEVER a good time to do it.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I know man, our HOX's suck all of a sudden. I can't believe how slow my phone became after reading that. It's almost unusable now.
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I'm not an apple fan boy, my HOX is awesome. I'm just worried that this will add to the slow death of development for our HOX. Who will buy "the old one" now?
Sadly with a lot of us not having root I feel like its not gonna make too much of a difference.
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I'm not an apple fan boy, my HOX is awesome. I'm just worried that this will add to the slow death of development for our HOX. Who will buy "the old one" now?
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Seriously why do you think development will die for this phone? They still did not release the phone and even if they do ppl (developers) will break contracts or buy unlocked ones right away? Still there is development going for s2 but with your logic it should stop right?
Stop worrying about future dude.. :beer:
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IceColdJelly

DO NOT FLASH this rom is not for your phone YOU WILL BE BRICKED
Honestly I'm starting to loose hope for people.
Like I said in my post that was locked... the floods about to start with bricked post
honestly if its not from this forum no flashy
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CheesyNutz said:
Honestly I'm starting to loose hope for people.
Like I said in my post that was locked... the floods about to start with bricked post
honestly if its not from this forum no flashy
AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL
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about to start..shhhhhhhhhhhhhh*****tttttttttt flood gates bursted open a few days ago
DvineLord said:
DO NOT FLASH this rom is not for your phone YOU WILL BE BRICKED
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But. my house is made of bricks
I say just let it ride, its a process of natural selection. In the long run hopefully it will make us stronger by weeding out the rest
18th.abn said:
I say just let it ride, its a process of natural selection. In the long run hopefully it will make us stronger by weeding out the rest
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Haha
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Anyone who is not going to research the whole flashing process before they start pushing buttons should just go buy an iphone.... And not jailbreak it.
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I agree, we should just let people flash it. Natural selection.
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Kindatired said:
Anyone who is not going to research the whole flashing process before they start pushing buttons should just go buy an iphone.... And not jailbreak it.
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has nothing to do with iphones ... its simple people have to STOP and take the time to read and understand what they are doing and just dont go flashing any random rom and excpect the people here to help fix the "mistake"
My point was that people who don't want to throughly research the whole process before they start unlocking/flashing they are probably better off just sticking to a dumb phone.
In some ways I can understand why manufacturers and carriers would not want people to screw around with their phones on a root level. The number of people that have screwed up their phone playing around with things before they knew what they were doing must cost them a fortune in warranty replacements.
"My phone just stopped working. I don't know why. I need it replaced. " - Mr. I Flashed The Wrong Thing
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Kindatired said:
My point was that people who don't want to throughly research the whole process before they start unlocking/flashing they are probably better off just sticking to a dumb phone.
In some ways I can understand why manufacturers and carriers would not want people to screw around with their phones on a root level. The number of people that have screwed up their phone playing around with things before they knew what they were doing must cost them a fortune in warranty replacements.
"My phone just stopped working. I don't know why. I need it replaced. " - Mr. I Flashed The Wrong Thing
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agreed and therefore is costing us a fortune in insurance and has the ATT of this world forcing manufacturers to lock bl with increased security . look at my sig, that was a couple of days ago, enough said....
DvineLord said:
DO NOT FLASH this rom is not for your phone YOU WILL BE BRICKED
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Problem is the guys getting into trouble never read these threads. They just Google "One X roms" and flash the first CM/AOKP thing they find.
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iElvis said:
Problem is the guys getting into trouble never read these threads. They just Google "One X roms" and flash the first CM/AOKP thing they find.
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THIS !!!!

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