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Little background, I'm a business student, and am looking for a tablet which can replace my really clunky and heavy laptop. Will mainly use it to view lecture slides and take down notes. Would the Note 10.1 or the Transformer be a better option?
P.S. Do note (no pun intended) that if I do get the 10.1, I'll most probably be buying a bluetooth keyboard to complement it. It won't be solely just using the S Pen, but more of a mixture of both. Which is something the Transformer probably can't provide.
If you do not aim to take notes with the s-pen and you prefer a keyboard so the Infinity would be better for you.
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If you do not aim to take notes with the s-pen and you prefer a keyboard so the Infinity would be better for you.
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It'll be a mixture of both actually. Sometimes it's easier to make annotations on the slides itself, other times typing would be a better options. Haha. I'll edit my OP to make it clearer.
Well if you want to take lag free handwritten notes with an app like "LectureNotes" then there is no question - the Note 10.1.
Definitely the Note. It has S-Note app which is all you need for importing PDF files, highlighting, note-taking, and other school work. Plus, the S-Pen is ridiculously good for tablets. iPad and other mainstream tablets can't even come close to Note's S-Pen capabilities. Why the hell would you want to write notes using a so-called "pen" that is as thick as a marker? That never made sense.
I would get Infinity without a doubt if I were using the tablet MAINLY for entertainment purposes, because you could watch movies and play games on a 1080p screen powered by nvidia's tegra 3 ARM processor.
I much prefer a pen approach then a keyboard one when taking notes, mainly because i have to write things all over a page and not in a linear fashion.
So I'll say that if you are a visual person go for the Note. It's a great tablet and honestly you can survive without a full HD screen on a 10" screen. It's not as bad as marketing wants you to believe.
It would be awesome if there was a 8.9" option for the note
Im in the same boat. I used a prime last semester and found i didnt really use the keyboard because i couldnt take notes the way i wanted. Using the jote 10.1 so far this semester and its much better. Plus i think there is a keyboard dock for the note as well or a bluetooth one if you want that as well.
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Little background, I'm a business student, and am looking for a tablet which can replace my really clunky and heavy laptop. Will mainly use it to view lecture slides and take down notes. Would the Note 10.1 or the Transformer be a better option?
P.S. Do note (no pun intended) that if I do get the 10.1, I'll most probably be buying a bluetooth keyboard to complement it. It won't be solely just using the S Pen, but more of a mixture of both. Which is something the Transformer probably can't provide.
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GNote, hands down. I do both and both are very doable.
G-Note is better i had the same decission to make, in the end the official 10.1 accessoires list a keyboard in case you really need one, so you really cannot go wrong.
I would say the note. I currently use a tf101(original transformer). I think i have used the keyboard all of a dozen time in the last 1.5 years.
Just bought my wife the note and i'm am totally sold. I'll be buying my own next month. For handwritten notes, it is amazing. In lecture notes i usually have to zoom in to 200% to take notes, and they are only so clean looking, on the tf. With the note i can actually take legible notes at 100% zoom.
so i would say note and bluetooth keyboard if you need it.
Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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The later generations are typically better, and there are typically later generations coming out all the time, so if you wait for the note 2 10.1, you will find some issues that will be improved on with the note 3 and so on, or some other device. That is how things work and progress, so it really depends on how much money you have if you are able to continue buying the latest and greatest every 6 months or so and want to take the time to get everything set up again. I figure I'll be fine with this one for a couple years and then upgrade a generation or so down the line or go to something else that becomes better. It is never ending as technology is constantly improving and methods for development are always improving and changing.
In order for companies to have money and staff for their proper research and development, people need to purchase their products on the market now and invest that way.
I am perfectly happy with my Note 10.1. I would suspect the Note 10.1 v2 won't be out until late next summer so you have to decide if you want to wait that long go for it.
As for improvements to this I would be curious what you think needs major improvement, so much so you would return this. I am actually quite impressed with the software on this. I have a Galaxy Nexus and Xoom both with Jellybean so I was a little hesitant getting a non Nexus device but I must say Samsung has done a pretty good job with this OS, even TouchWiz is pretty good. While we are promised Jellybean soon, and I am fairly confident we will get Key Lime Pie, I doubt we will see anything after that unless the dev community is able to make it happen. As of now I am good with this because the tablet is good enough not to need much more from the OS.
Speed and responsiveness thanks to the quad core and 2 Gb of RAM is impressive. Unlike the Tegra2 in my Xoom, I believe this hardware will hold up well for the next 2 years of app development. Even with Jellybean on the Xoom, the Note 10.1 with ICS is much smoother (thanks its internals).
All this to say I am very happy with this tablet.
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Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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It's kind of a bad comparison you're making. The Note 10.1 is the equivalent of the SGS3 and Note II both h/w and s/w wise. The OG Note I was equivalent to the SGS2 and OG G-Tab 10.1. Samsung sold only 700K OG G-Tab 10.1’s in the U.S. after spending $500K marketing them and distributing them via the U.S. carriers. That’s pretty pitiful considering it was deemed the most compelling Android tablet on the market and the best alternative to the iPad. All the Android tablet makers are also now making W8 tablets. Depending on their success with W8 you may see them greatly reduce or pull out of the Android tablet market completely.
This article talks about Android tablets in a post-W8 tablet world…
"I think [productivity-focused Android tablets] are going to fade away," says Rob Enderle, the principal analyst of the Enderle Group, summing up the group consensus. "I think we'll see Windows convertibles and hybrids pick up that category. The keyboard really goes with Office."
The analysts I contacted also agree that Windows tablets will quickly gobble up Android's market share in the premium-priced tablet segment. Dropping $500 or more on a 10.1-inch Android tablet requires a lot more deliberation than spending $200 on a 7-inch Google Nexus 7. For this reason, analysts believe, consumers will flock toward the more seamless (and less glitchy) Windows experience when going for a big-screen (and non-iPad) tablet.
But will Android tablets vanish entirely? Most of the experts I spoke with don't think so. Excluding Forrester's Rotman Epps, most analysts expect Android tablets to be around for the long haul, albeit in a niche role that focuses on low prices and media playback.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012231/is-windows-8-an-existential-threat-to-android-tablets.html
The only thing I think that the note misses:
A working and reliable office clone, with the ability to ink
A note taking program that records audio, as it takes not. Like livescribe does, or onenote does. I was quite suprised to find that this doesnt exist in android yet.
A keyboard accessory, that works like a clam. A tranformer type keyboard would be fabulous
Otherwise I think the Note 10.1 is fabulous
Yup. I agree with the others. You're trying to decide if you should own the best android tablet or nothing?. The Note 10.1 stands out in front of the other tablets. So it your looking for the best tablet, this is it. Don't wait.
If you really would like to upgrade when the next model comes out, I would keep the Note 10.1 until then.
I agree, this is by far the best tablet on the market.
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What you did not mention is what is that you do not like in the note.
Samsung has given note hardware that is not required at present like 2gb of ram one of the reasons for doing so is to make it future proof upto a certain extent, I belive a life of a laptop is 3 years, cellphone and tablet may be around 2 years and with period I think note would be good enough.
Yes the screen resolution on PAPER looks like it needs improvement but that was I think to keep price down because of the Spen.
But overall I believe its a great tablet.
One thing I can challeng no other tablet can do or will do for a long time to come is write a mail using spen believe me my handwriting on a scale to 1-10 is 1 and still it recognises it and thats something awesome
Thanks for all your responses! My biggest worry / problem with this tablet is to build quality. Overall, for a 500+dollar tablet I feel like its overall aesthetics aren't as sleek nor seem as durable as it should be. [really didn't mind the plastic build on my note phone but I guess a tablet it does seem a little cheap. Secondly, I think the biggest improvement can and will be made in themulti-app functionality. I enjoy the experience of it right now but it is not truly a polished function of Samsung's feature. Included should be hOw S- memo functions. LastIy the biggest disappointments Come from Polaris. I use a bluetooth keyboard to really Use my tablet as a laptop replacement for small tasks such as organising class notes. But I often am frustrated with how Polaris functions. Though the merit of the tablet is its s-pen the inability to be productiveWith a keyboard on Polaris makes me wonder if I should seriously consider Windows...
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I think you have formed an opinion against the note if you think polaris is not good enough you can look at other office apps on market place spend few extra buck or dl it from sites
Looks are concerned well once in case they wont matter but I have the bluish grey like the one on SG3 and I love how the back looks but again I have case so its not visible. but then its onces taste. I feel looks wise tablet may not win awards but its not an ugly duckling either. its a look samsung has gone with for all its mobile devices so whether you like it or hate it you have to live with it
After owning the first Galaxy Tab, Asus Transformer and the Galaxy Tab 7.7 the 10.1 note is without a doubt the one i have enjoyed and used the most. The screen resolution is a slight let down after the 7.7 but everything else is best on the market at present so this is a keeper. Good for media and useful for business.
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Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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I think u should wait for the tablet that will launch in 2040... it would be perfect. Would have a full frame prismless dslr integrated, will be able to change physical shape, will have quantum computing cpu, 12800 ppi display, ffc (far field communication chip, allowing u to beam photos from distant planets without internet) and will be powered by a nuclear fusion cells that can outlast human life span on one single charge!
But in order to pass this time till next big thing comes... buy note 10.1. It brings a smile on my face everyday! Hopefully it will give u same joy!
Enjoy the journey!
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I think u should wait for the tablet that will launch in 2040... it would be perfect. Would have a full frame prismless dslr integrated, will be able to change physical shape, will have quantum computing cpu, 12800 ppi display, ffc (far field communication chip, allowing u to beam photos from distant planets without internet) and will be powered by a nuclear fusion cells that can outlast human life span on one single charge!
But in order to pass this time till next big thing comes... buy note 10.1. It brings a smile on my face everyday! Hopefully it will give u same joy!
Enjoy the journey!
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This is good stuff. Personally I love this thing and I use it to about 1/10th of its ability. It's fast, smooth, and there is so much to it that I'm just enjoying reading and researching this thing. The great thing about this, and android in general, is options. We have lots of options.
I am always amazed about complaints, particularly in the cell phone arena. People have completely forgotten its a damn phone. If you want a super computer, well go buy one. Same can be said for the tablet market. If you are working on some complicated excel sheet, and you get pissed because something gets corrupted or something, chances are, you should be probably using your computer for that excel sheet that is mission critical for your 8am meeting. Don't get mad cause some formula driven excel sheet got corrupted why you tried to edit or create it on your tablet
My last rant will be about one of my iSheep friends who I let play with it. He held it, turned vertically, then horizontally, then vertically again, repeat a few more times etc. He snapped a couple pictures, then handed it back to me after 45 seconds and said, "this thing is terrible...its clunky and awkward". I looked at him, shook my head, and did the best sheep imitation I could muster. That cult is more then I can handle.
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Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Availability and pricing for the most part. Amazon and Apple have been negotiating with textbook publishers for some time but the publishers are too greedy to provide affordable ebooks because it will cut into their profits. For the few books I have read the Kindle app works great. You can highlight, bookmark and make notes. All of which you can quickly find in in a list of all your markups.
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Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Unfortunately not yet.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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I had the TF201 for about a month with the keyboard and I really tried to like it but the keyboard was too cramped and didn't balance the tablet's weight well. I did enjoy the 3 day battery life out of it. I usually get two sometimes 3 on my Note without any external keyboard battery.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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From what I've heard the new transformer won't have these issues at all and just looking at the hardware it seems pretty promising. I have not seen nor tested one on real life so I don't know how good it is. But before buying another one, I should give it a try and browse for some tests because I think it's really good.
All these androids apart though, have you considered the new Microsoft surface? A decent MS Office is something I would really value. And the pro version even got a stylus with the same technology the Note has!
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Well, I am studying chemistry and biology, but maybe youll find my feedback useful.
I purchased the note 10.1 specifically for taking notes during lectures, as didnt want keep carrying tons of notebooks with me. Plus, our lecturers usually put the PDF file of their lectures in the website, so I can download them before the lecture and during lecture add some useful information and comments to it. During lectures I can eqully well draw schemes, diagrams, graphs, reactions and just write the general stuff. Tiny button at the side of S-pen can be customised to change eg, colour of writing by clicking it, which makes it really perfect when you need to distinguish between lots of different type of information.
When buying I was a bit confused, I didnt know if the writing would be good enough for fast note taking, but after a while I was completely happy with the accuracy and speed of the writing with the S-pen. I almost dont use typing, as handwriting (mechanical movement of the hand) actually helps to memorise information, and thats what you need during studies.
I actually think that this tablet is the most useful tool I bought in recent years, and truly, it has no competitors in making notes.
There was some weird voice in my head when I saw the new Nexus 7 (2nd gen) coming out: "buy it, you need it, you want it, you deserve a new toy". I have a few friends that were really happy with the 1st gen Nexus 7, so I was tempted to buy the 1st Nexus7, but didn't.
I should have really thought it through before buying the 2nd gen Nexus7. After having it for 4 months I concluded that the only reason to have it is if you like games.
Downsides and reasons I decided to sell:
- portability. Even thou its portable enough, i found that my old HTC Desire Z has the same functionality and use as the Nexus7 for daily tasks, plus also offers the portability of fitting into a pocket without tearing it.
- no vibro. I am used to have tactile feedback when writing messages, getting alerts and such
- no 3G/4G LTE The whole thing about the tablet is using it to consume stuff online and the 3g version costs 50-100 pounds extra. That's unfair
- influences to play games. Having something as powerful as it and not playing games seems like a waste of money and the crisp clear screen
Why would I want something as powerful as the Nexus 7 just to check my email, read news, e-books and the like? I can read mail and news on my phone and read books on my Kindle.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus worked really smoothly and with just an occasional hiccup. But before getting it I would look at girls in public transport awkwardly and sometimes even get enough balls to actually say "hi" to them instead of turning my eyes red in that 7 inch, 50Hz shining light-bulb that seems to exploit my brains psychological fallacy to stay "on top" of (not important) news, games and apps.
I decided to get a Asus EEE for work and learning, Linux my Kindle and read PDF's on it (the battery holds in the count of weeks not days) and use my phone for android and stuff on the go.
After I built a desktop just for gaming I replaced my laptop with an ASUS Transformer - it's lighter, the battery lasts longer and I like it a lot better than a netbook. I still use my e-ink Kindle because I much prefer reading books on e-ink. My phone is pocket sized but isn't the best when I'd rather have a keyboard to type with.
For me, this is what works. It's all about arranging the tools in your life to work best for YOU.
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There is nothing better than hardware keyboard and mouse in notebook or PC. In most cases tablets are running Android, so they can't run programs like PowerPoint or Excel.
I use it mostly for watching videos... Works great for that purpose. Still prefer reading on my kindle though. Also browsing the web is a little easier on the larger screen.
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- no 3G/4G LTE The whole thing about the tablet is using it to consume stuff online and the 3g version costs 50-100 pounds extra. That's unfair
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What about tethering then?
I wanted to buy tablet for myself for few times, but i dont see point now with my phone. Almost all that i can on tablet, i also can on my phone. And for some serious work i need keyboard and thats that. My wet dream is ultrabook but i cant justify cost
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After I built a desktop just for gaming I replaced my laptop with an ASUS Transformer - it's lighter, the battery lasts longer and I like it a lot better than a netbook. I still use my e-ink Kindle because I much prefer reading books on e-ink. My phone is pocket sized but isn't the best when I'd rather have a keyboard to type with.
For me, this is what works. It's all about arranging the tools in your life to work best for YOU.
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Transformer is only called tablet, but it is much more
A tablet has no advantages.
1) The main thing I use my Galaxy Tab 3 for is reading e-books.
It's pretty cool having a portable library where you can change the text size and color (red is easier on my eyes).
I really like to read, both fiction and non-fiction, and a phone is too small for that, even my Nexus 5, it's just too small. 7" is perfect for reading, as is 10"
2) Also, I have taken some vacations this year, and took a bunch of pictures that my family wants to see. Very easy to just bring a tablet if a family member is in the hospital (I have such a person) or if I go somewhere else, and I can show them come pics and videos right on the 10" tablet.
3) Work. Some of us work in fields where we would like to show pictures of things we sell or explain things to customers, and this comes in handy as a tool.
4) Games. I play chess and checkers on the 10" tablet sometimes and it's pretty fun. Some games really shine on a bigger screen.
Now what I find ridiculous, and I have seen this recently at a concert and at the zoo, is people taking pictures with their tablets, namely iPads. It's pretty crazy that you brought a tablet to that venue, and you're using it as a camera?
Really don't get that.
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A tablet has no advantages.
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SIZE. Bigger than a phone, smaller than a laptop.
I have been a fan of the note series for some time now, ever since I got the note 2 phone. Then the note 10;1, and the note 8.0. Finally getting the cash lined up for a note 10.1 2014 and the 12.2 gets announced. So, now I am waiting for a couple days for the note pro to be available in the store to purchase.
My questions is about the choice between the Surface Pro 2 and the Note 12.2
I know that a great deal of things relies on individual needs and preferences, but I want to see where everyone sits.
If you have the chance, would you buy a Note 12.2 or a Surface Pro 2. Assuming same cost.
For me, I wouldn't mind going with a surface pro 2, but I would be tempted to stretch my funds and go with a 256gb model just to get the 8gb ram, then would nee a keyboard for it, pushing my budget pretty high. The note 12.2 is still a high cost device, but cheaper than the Surface Pro 2.
My viewpoint is looking like this:
Reasons for Surface Pro 2
Better CPU
Actual computer with full fledged programs
I can install and play my steam games (really mostly concerned with RTS games since I have my high end gaming laptop with me for higher end games.
Reasons for Note Pro 12.2
Higher Res and better display
Easier use of stylus for notes, drawing, and random functions,
Android and better "mobile" OS.
My big uses for either device would be for Stylus use, consuming content like netflix, and general connectivity for everything.
Thoughts?
Surface Pro 2
I too strongly considered the Surface Pro, and the SP2, for my mobile computing needs. And as you said, it really is all about how you're going to use it. My issue is that it's really almost too much computer for a 10" tablet form factor, and usability suffers for this. In other words, I found it too bulky, heavy, and the screen was simply too small to be able to actually use that power to be productive.
When I'd sit down to type either at a desk or on the couch, it was rather difficult to do so for any length of time, while remaining comfortable. I'd just end up using it as a tablet only. In which case, it was just a little too heavy and bulky for extended use. And I wasn't even remotely using the power of the i-core CPU like this. Which seemed like a waste of such an expensive device.
So I thought I'd try games. I quickly found that it was either wasn't powerful enough for the games I wanted to play and/or the screen was too small.
Basically, I just couldn't find a good use case scenario where it made sense to spend that kind of money on the SP1 or SP2. For me, a larger Ultrabook or a more traditional tablet made more sense. Combining the two just didn't work.
Galaxy Note Pro 12.2
I of course haven't used the Note Pro tablet, but from what I've seen it looks like it might actually work for my needs. I know it's expensive "for an android tablet." But for a 12.2" portable computing device, it's almost a bargain. Well, maybe not a "bargain," and there isn't exactly any real competition for it; at least until others jump on board.
First, it's still relatively light weight for it's size. Find me another 12" device running around 1.6 lb, let alone at this price point. Add that to expected tablet-like battery life, portability, nice screen, new launcher, top-end tablet specs, and I think it looks very promising. Well, at least on paper. I'll have to judge that for myself when I get it. If the software and hardware fail, I probably will have to revisit the ultrabook idea. I just didn't want to spend that kind of money right now.
And the most important part is what I'm going to use it for. No, I'm not going to write a book on it. Not expecting to play BF4 or SC2. Don't need it to fit in a pocket. I've got a 5.7" phone, high-end multi-monitor workstation, and 15" notebook for those tasks. I just want something relatively portable to use when traveling, in a vehicle, in a plane, use at work, or even on the couch. If I'm leaving the house with it, just like a 10" tablet, it's going in a bag on it's own, or with my notebook and it's larger bag.
Then it needs to play videos, music, surf the web, and even handle the occasional high-end android game. I'll probably give some light on-the-go productivity a try on it. But like I said, a notebook with a real keyboard is always going to make far more sense.
Mine gets here Friday. Still hoping it works out! :good:
First of all it depends on what do you do and what you need your tablet for . As i know its a personal reference to choose which fit your needs so am just going to share mine so it may help you figure out which suits you or which is a better deal.
I am a Junior architect and for powerful tasks i prefer using a desktop or a powerful laptop as thats where you can do real job on a real wide space but when it comes to a tablet category you choose something that can just give you the ability to edit those projects you did on your desktop or laptop and since tablets to us is a real multi-consumption device for work or multimedia and games etc and it would fit a lot of job holders like me as an architect or a student , artist, teacher etc so i would love to go with the Note PRO over the SP2 simply bc : bigger and better display , wide stylus integration for many apps , you can edit and restyle the android as you wish with so many apps and a full nice keyboard. also the way you feel about the device itself matters a lot and i believe going with the samsung would be a more better experience as being able to turn your tablet into a style that makes you feel good about using it . i didn't really like to go with some tech specs as it easily would be found online etc but here there is a really good article that may help you out from the very technical perspective on gizmag.com
Considering for me it was a choice between the note 12.2 and the SP2, and the note doesnt come out until tomorrow, my wife has already gone to best buy to get me a Surface Pro 2, at least to try out.
Considering that I can use bluestacks to play all the android games and apps I could on the note 12.2 (with some limitations), there is no applicational advantage to the note 12.2
The advantage to the 12.2 is the lower cost, better screen, and better integration of the s pen.
I feel like a traitor, though, going with the Surface. I love android and the note series is the king in my book, and the 12.2 is like the damn emperor of the note series, but I would be stupid and rather irrational not to at least try out the surface pro 2 if it can do everything to note can and more with only an extra 100 dollar price tag.
We shall see.
It is true that it depends on what you plan to use the particular device.
From various reviews, SP2 has a battery life of 6 hours while the GNP 12.2 has a battery life of 10 hours. I think I can do more with the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and more.
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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To be honest i couldn't decided between the two, at the moment i have got the surface pro 2 as my personal computer and i also got the galaxy note 10.1 2014 LTE edition, but i am now waiting for the note pro 12.2 LTE because i liked the bigger screen, i know it will cost nearly a thousand but to me its what i want as i want a mobile LTE tablet for when i travel around the country :good:
I just returned my SP2 last night and got the pro 12.2 at best buy. No regrets! I'm scratching my head for the last 15 days. A lot of problems on surface pro 2
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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LOL As soon as cwm is active i will start on this still waiting for sammobile to up the first release softwares
here is a video comparison between sp2 and the note pro 12.2 by Lisa mobiletechreviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP80fLkJrY
This isn't a fair match up at all...
Android all the way, yeah.
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I currently have both the SP2 and 12.2. You need a keyboard and mouse to really do anything productive on either device.
For any consumption, Youtube, movies, web, its the 12.2 FTW!
The only thing I haven't found that I can do on the 12.2 is Publisher and Powerpoint creation/presentation. I know there are android options there, but they are not up to full functionality when compared to MS office. The Hancom office that comes with the 12.2 is really good when it comes to excel and word though. Very impressed.
I ordered a bluetooth keyboard for the 12.2. I will be able to slip both the tablet and keyboard in the same bag and they won't be any thicker than the SP2.
The one advantage the SP2 has over the 12.2 is multi-monitor support. I am running three monitors and the SP2 at my office. Talk about productivity. There is no lag. Android can't do that yet. I am an android fanboy, but MS still has this productivity nailed.
My 2 cents. As you said, use case dictates your answer. I can't say I would be completely happy with only one of these devices. There is not yet "one device to rule them all."
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