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I have decided to move this post from the issues thread to a dedicated one to give it better visibility. If no one else is getting this problem then I will probably return the device.
I have the excellent "devstate" today plugin application installed which gives the battery charge level in 1% steps. When I say slow, it takes around 3 mins to increase by 1% which means it will take 4 hours for 80% charge (too long) when this is the case, the back doesn't heat up.
I have seen it charge much faster on one occasion i.e. around 1% a minute and the back was warming up (this is logical if more current is flowing) I was wondering the cause of the slow charge is that the device thinks it is connected to a pc and the charging current is limited. Also when you plug the cable sometimes the menu pops up asking whether you want to enter activesync/disk drive mode but doesn't on other occasions. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to it.
Another observation is that a soft reeboot occasionaly gives wildly varying battery levels for example before reboot the charge might be 100% and straight after the reboot 90%, or 83% before and 100% after. Interestingly before turning on the device for the first time I fully charged the battery, but up on boot up it was reporting 60%! (maybe it didn't charge at all when it was switched off and 60% was the initial amount of charge the battery came with) Have I got a duff battery or some issue with the device itself?
I seems like the battery charges fast up to 75% at around 1% a minute but then slows down to 1% every 3 to 4 minutes. Maybe this is the charging profile for this battery. Has anyone else noticed this?
Here are a couple of threads from the diamond section regarding the sort of issues I am experiencing but there doesn't seem to be a conclusive fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406230&highlight=slow+charging
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401945&highlight=charging
Could people please answer the following questions to help me decide whether I have a faulty device/battery or some ROM issue which all of us have. I have the stock UK touch pro ROM 1.90.405.1 WWE.
1) If you fully charged the battery before powering on for the first time, what was you battery charge level immediately after power on?
2) Have you noticed fluctuating charging rates?
3) Soft reboot gives different battery charge levels.

Just a quick Q, which charger are you using? Can you just post the amp / volt data printed onto it for us?

I am using the one that came with the touch pro, model no TC P300, its output rating is 5V at 1A. Input rating 100-240V
I have also tried the mda vario III charger and I get similar results i.e. fast charge up to 75% then slow afterwards.

As i stated in the other tread with the "Raphael issues" i have the same problem.
When i use the shiny new charger with the "usb-mini usb" cable i takes 7-8 hours to completely charge the device. (output is 5V-1A)
However, when i use my good old Hermes charger, or any other 5V-1A charger, it goes to 100% in about 3 hours.

Mine charges up to 90% from 10% in less than 3 hours after which it stays @ 90% (According to the built in battery meter of the device) forever. Is it a faulty battery or its supposed to be like that?

WDawn said:
As i stated in the other tread with the "Raphael issues" i have the same problem.
When i use the shiny new charger with the "usb-mini usb" cable i takes 7-8 hours to completely charge the device. (output is 5V-1A)
However, when i use my good old Hermes charger, or any other 5V-1A charger, it goes to 100% in about 3 hours.
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And do you get varying battery levels on soft reboot?
3 hours is probably what I would get i.e. "75% at 1% a minute = 75 mins" PLUS "25% at 1% every 4 mins = 100 mins" giving a total of 175 mins.
question is that is this behaviour normal for touch pro or only present on
some device/battery/chargers.
I also have another issue, this time regarding interference on speaker, see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419761
If only my touch pro has these faults then I want to replace it asap, especially when having paid £500 for it.

billu said:
And do you get varying battery levels on soft reboot?
3 hours is probably what I would get i.e. "75% at 1% a minute = 75 mins" PLUS "25% at 1% every 4 mins = 100 mins" giving a total of 175 mins.
question is that is this behaviour normal for touch pro or only present on
some device/battery/chargers.
I also have another issue, this time regarding interference on speaker, see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419761
If only my touch pro has these faults then I want to replace it asap, especially when having paid £500 for it.
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Yes i do get varying levels on reboot, but i got that with my Hermes and Magician too. So i wouldn't worry about it. Usually when you softreset while it's charging you get a higher battery reading then you should have, but it wil drop after some time to it's real level.

WDawn said:
Yes i do get varying levels on reboot, but i got that with my Hermes and Magician too. So i wouldn't worry about it. Usually when you softreset while it's charging you get a higher battery reading then you should have, but it wil drop after some time to it's real level.
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This happens when its not charging. I don't get this with the vario III. Maybe it is ROM dependant. The other concern was after having charged the device fully when switched off, it reported 60% on power up. I might let the battery drain to a low level then charge when switched off to see whether it charges at all. Some diamond owners were also reporting this.

Hmm, got the same thing tonight with my Hermes charger, has been charging for 6 hours and still not fully charged, now at about 80%. Very strange. Are there more people experiencing this?

billu said:
Another observation is that a soft reeboot occasionaly gives wildly varying battery levels for example before reboot the charge might be 100% and straight after the reboot 90%, or 83% before and 100% after. Interestingly before turning on the device for the first time I fully charged the battery, but up on boot up it was reporting 60%! (maybe it didn't charge at all when it was switched off and 60% was the initial amount of charge the battery came with) Have I got a duff battery or some issue with the device itself?
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This didn't appear to happen to me on the first charge, but I turned it on immediately after putting the battery and SIM in place, and then I charged (I don't remember what the initial battery charge was). I've not noticed such wildly inaccurate readings after reboot either. I haven't specifically checked for inaccuracy in the battery meter, but I would (probably) have noticed such a big difference.
Have you tried to do a full discharge and charge cycle? This is necessary after around every 30th charge to recalibrate the gauge so that it is as accurate as possible. I know yours probably haven't gone through 30 charges yet, but it may be worth trying.
billu said:
I seems like the battery charges fast up to 75% at around 1% a minute but then slows down to 1% every 3 to 4 minutes. Maybe this is the charging profile for this battery. Has anyone else noticed this?
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This is normal for lithium-ion batteries. The last 20% or so can take as long as the first 80% to charge.
Sources:
- Lithium-ion battery (Wikipedia)
- Charging lithium-ion batteries (batteryuniversity.com)
- Lithium-ion Batteries (Apple.com)
billu said:
I have the stock UK touch pro ROM 1.90.405.1 WWE.
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Same as mine.
WDawn said:
Hmm, got the same thing tonight with my Hermes charger, has been charging for 6 hours and still not fully charged, now at about 80%. Very strange. Are there more people experiencing this?
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When charging I usually leave mine overnight, so I think I've only charged it once during the day, and then I think this was through USB while connected to the PC so it may have been a bit longer than 'normal' (3-4 hours) for that reason. I'll keep an eye at it next time I do it during the day.
Six hours plus sounds far too long though, do you have a chance of trying the battery in another device, or another battery in your device?

Incarniac said:
Six hours plus sounds far too long though, do you have a chance of trying the battery in another device, or another battery in your device?
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Nope, don't have a second Touch Pro around here, but this is really annoying, I need a fully charged battery in the morning. If this is hardware related i'd return it to get a replacement.

hmm, this is interesting.....so just to clarify we are seeing slower charging with the bundled adapter: which is essentially an AC to USB power transformer?? If the USB port on that (yes i know its power only) is capable of supplying only a standard ammount of juice then your battery may charge to 100% as slowly as from a pc or car charger..
..id like to perhaps see if i can meter the current and voltage coming from it but would need me to cobble together a breadboard with the relevent power points.
Is the hermes / kaiser charger charging it fully in less time?? (to clarify)

Incarniac said:
Have you tried to do a full discharge and charge cycle? This is necessary after around every 30th charge to recalibrate the gauge so that it is as accurate as possible. I know yours probably haven't gone through 30 charges yet, but it may be worth trying.
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Yes I drained the battery till the phone switched off by itself but still have this problem. I suspect there is a problem either with the phone itself or the battery as supposed to a ROM issue. I thought all the clever charging circuit is in the battery these days and it's the battery which reports it's charge level to the device too. If this is true then probably the battery is faulty but I am not going to buy another one just to find out. I'll try to get a replacement for the touch pro tomorrow when the shops open.

billu said:
I thought all the clever charging circuit is in the battery these days and it's the battery which reports it's charge level to the device too.
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It is, but even so the gauge (in the battery) needs recalibration once in a while, hence the full discharge/charge cycle every 30th charge or so (other than that it is recommended to charge li-ion batteries often, and not deplete them fully).
Your next port of call is probably to see if another battery makes a difference.
WDawn said:
Nope, don't have a second Touch Pro around here, but this is really annoying, I need a fully charged battery in the morning. If this is hardware related i'd return it to get a replacement.
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Today I charged my phone from empty to full while connected to the PC, which took around 3 hours 30 minutes (phone not used except to check charge levels towards the end).

the charging cycle on mine has been a little erratic too.
I put it on charge at 9pm last night, at 6.30 this morning it was at 88%. 9 hours and not fully charged!!...still, 3 hours later and it's on 87%. so I think its more a case of requiring a few charge/discharge cycels to settle the guage down a bit.

This night it fully charged in 5 hours. While yesterday it wasn't completely charged in over 8 hours. There doesn't seem to be a pattern in this.

Yesterday it was showing 48% battery level at one time, a soft reset later 28%, another soft reset and it was 24%. Today I have sent it back for a replacement. Can those people affected by this issue please state where they bought it from, in order to figure out whether it might be a faulty batch. I bought mine from clove technology in the UK.

billu said:
Yesterday it was showing 48% battery level at one time, a soft reset later 28%, another soft reset and it was 24%. Today I have sent it back for a replacement. Can those people affected by this issue please state where they bought it from, in order to figure out whether it might be a faulty batch. I bought mine from clove technology in the UK.
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Mine came from Expansys.be, please let us know your new unit has the same behaviour.

Will do if I get a replacement one, they have satisfy themselves that there is fault first. Will probably take around 3 days. I miss my touch pro already.....
Oh well back to the vario III for the time being, seems cumbersome already in comparison.

Hermes Charger
mrvanx said:
Is the hermes / kaiser charger charging it fully in less time?? (to clarify)
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Whilst I don't have any exact figures to hand, my hermes charger took about 45 mins (Give or take a little.)
I've been using the standard Raphael charger today and charged from 50% and it's still going after 1 hour 20 mins and only at 90%
I know the final 80% takes a lot longer, but even so.....

First Charging Asus Transformer

I just got my Asus Transformer, I charged it full out of the box for 8 hours as initial charge. Should i drain it to 0 % and charge it for second time? or Just wait until 10 %?

Doesn't matter. I usually charge it when it gets to 10%.

For the first times I waited till 10% or something to fully recharge.
But after a lot of reading about the matter, I have found lots of opinions, so I think it doesn't make a big difference.
Regards.

Alright. Thanks man. Will just charge when 10%

From asus manual:
"Remember to fully charge the battery (8 hours or more) before first use and whenever it is depleted to prolong battery life. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after a few full charging and discharging cycles."

After awhile, Lithium-Ion Batteries don't really care how you charge them, or what their capacity is. Charging a battery at say 50% vs 10% won't really add that much more juice. I wouldn't really concern yourself OP..

Guys, the first 8hour charging means that I must charge separatly 8hours tablet and next 8hours dock? Because I put dock and tablet together and charge it 8hours. Was it wrong? Then I was using it connected tablet+dock together until it was showned warning that battery dropped under 5% and orange LED on the side of dock was blicking. Then I charged it again together and after 5hour of charging, LED is green and tablet shows 100%. Is it OK? Did I do something wrong?
Thanks

One question to you guys: During the first 8 hour charge, were you able to turn on the tablet? Because mine is sitting since 2 hours now and it won't turn on.

I have managed to turn it on.It required to keep the On button for about 10 seconds.

drifterD1 said:
Guys, the first 8hour charging means that I must charge separatly 8hours tablet and next 8hours dock? Because I put dock and tablet together and charge it 8hours. Was it wrong? Then I was using it connected tablet+dock together until it was showned warning that battery dropped under 5% and orange LED on the side of dock was blicking. Then I charged it again together and after 5hour of charging, LED is green and tablet shows 100%. Is it OK? Did I do something wrong?
Thanks
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You're fine. The goal is to get the batteries fully charged rather than, say, up to 50% and then stop.
Last I read, LiPo batteries do not need deep cycling to maximize battery life or restore lost capacity due to battery "memory." Some recommend an initial full charge followed by full depletion, but go on to note that is largely to calibrate battery usage stats. I keep most of my LiPo devices plugged in when I'm not using them, because those batteries require "smart" chargers that stop charging when the batteries are full.
If someone has good info to the contrary, I'd love to hear it. But, with well-made devices and chargers, there is no need to follow any sort of careful battery charging regimen. Use it when you need it, and charge it when it needs a charge.

AcerMate said:
One question to you guys: During the first 8 hour charge, were you able to turn on the tablet? Because mine is sitting since 2 hours now and it won't turn on.
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Mine was partially charged and turned on out of the box. Perhaps you have a power button with a loose connection? As long as it's working now, I would not worry about it.

finally today I recive my TR from US,& question is
are all of you guys ,charged 8 hours your TF
coz my is after 3 hours of charging TF is full 100%
& stay like that almost 2 hours more...
should I wait more 2 hours(for calibration reason)
or I can use it now

In the manual, it says charge for 8 hours before first use. I doubt that using before 8 hours is up will damage anything, but why risk it? I'd leave it on the charger.

10ks m8

Thanks for reply. My TF last 15hours of work after second charging. I think everything is OK with battery.

Underwater Mike said:
In the manual, it says charge for 8 hours before first use. I doubt that using before 8 hours is up will damage anything, but why risk it? I'd leave it on the charger.
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8hrs??? Are you sure that the asus manual? Sound like its the Samsung 10.1 manual... That how.long it takes to fully charge the 10.1

dazz87 said:
8hrs??? Are you sure that the asus manual? Sound like its the Samsung 10.1 manual... That how.long it takes to fully charge the 10.1
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Right in the little pamphlet (that counts as a manual ) under the TF in the box. I'm sure, because it's one of the few times I've read a manual in the last decade.

I´m charging my new TF for the first time and it´s reached 100% after 3 hours. Is it ok to start using it now or must i wait 5 more hours for the 8 that´s stated in the asus-booklet?

You could use it while its charging. First charge is really important. Dont stop the charge
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bitmovel said:
You could use it while its charging. First charge is really important. Dont stop the charge
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^^ Be patient and let it charge.

Charging time

I find this tablets charging time so annoying I'm coming from a zoom with charged so fast compared to my note
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Not trying to sound mean, but what's the point to the thread? Is it a question asking how to improve charging times?
BTW, I have a Xoom and I think it's just that it charges a lot faster due to the special charging port.

It will charge much faster if you connect it to 220 volt power sources, rather than 110.

Well I wanted to point out that it is an annoying factor for people to think about when considering buying the tablet but I understand your point
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Ummm... wall voltage won't affect it. The device only takes in 5v regardless of the where you plug the charger.
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Is it just me or do you guys think its slow charging
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up to 90% it seems pretty decent. it's that last 10 that seems to take forever. I think the last time I charged it I went from 30 to 90 in 2hrs then the last 10 took another hour.

I ran my note into the ground today and then started a stop watch to see how long it would take to fully charge it. 4.5 hours!!!!
Mine takes way too long to charge also!!

Charging a battery faster leads to more heat which reduces the life of the battery. A very high capacity battery will take longer to charge, all else being equal.
They could have sped up charging by using a non-standard supply voltage/current from the charging cable (like ASUS Transformers, which uses 15v instead of 5v) and thus charging the battery faster. But it would have just got a bit hotter which is not good for the battery.
The battery stores many times more energy than a smartphone battery, yet it only takes about twice as long to charge. I think that's pretty decent.

Given the battery's capacity (7000+mah) and the charge rate (around 2A) I'd say the charge time is right around what I'd expect.

I found the charge a bit slow aswell, but the battery last so long that it balances things out for me, i was disapointed at first until i realised how well the battery performs, regardless what apps i used.

Yeah, Im not too worried about the 4.5hour charging time, my battery lasts me a few days and I can always plug it in before bed and wake up to a fully charged tablet.

I use my tablet during the day and before I go to bed I put it on charge and it's full in the morning. Do some people use their tablet so much in the morning it's out of juice by the afternoon? Give your fingers a rest. My battery lasts me usually all day. Even with looking at YouTube etc.
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Slow charging after last firmware update
When I went to bed last night I had 19% power left. Like I normally do, connected my Note to charge overnight. Woke up 7 hours later to find that it had only charged up to 49%. Within 5 hours from a depleted battery, I usually have a full charge. Any thoughts as to why this is the case?

My galaxy note 2 charges faster than my note 10.1. But I have no problem with it.
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I just bought my note yesterday, and I have to admit I was so surprised when I charged my note. It took 4hr to go from 7% to 89%. My previous Asus transformer tf300 can go from 0% to full charged in 2 hrs.( Not really big deal but it will be better if Samsung includes high voltage wall charger .
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Techjourney said:
When I went to bed last night I had 19% power left. Like I normally do, connected my Note to charge overnight. Woke up 7 hours later to find that it had only charged up to 49%. Within 5 hours from a depleted battery, I usually have a full charge. Any thoughts as to why this is the case?
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It sounds like you may have charged with your note 10.1 turned off.
The note 10.1 like many other tablets needs the tablet to be on while charging so the tablet can regular the rate of charge.
My Note 10.1 charges much faster turned on with WiFi, Sync and GPS disabled.
Mine goes from 25% to 100% in about 3.5 hrs.
from 90% to 100% takes about 45 minutes.
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The-Captain said:
BTW, I have a Xoom and I think it's just that it charges a lot faster due to the special charging port.
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So do I (hello, fellow convert! ) and the real reason the Xoom charges faster isn't the port, it's 'cause the charger is 18W and is of a higher voltage (12v/1.5A vs. our 5v/2.1A). (I guess it could be argued that they had to go to a different port to not violate the PDMI spec the Samsung units use, though.)
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DroidHaxxor said:
It will charge much faster if you connect it to 220 volt power sources, rather than 110.
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You're being funny, I hope - our charger (just like any other charger released in the last decade) is a Universal Charger (100-240V/50-60Hz) so in any case the output voltage and current is the same no matter where in the world you plug it in.
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kkretch said:
The note 10.1 like many other tablets needs the tablet to be on while charging so the tablet can regular the rate of charge
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That's not really true, though, as our tablet is in fact on when you're charging it- if you tap the power button when it's charging in the "off" state, you'll see that battery animation, and that's in fact a fully-running kernel but instead of running "Android" it's a special run mode more like a Recovery. The kernel is in fact running and alive.
FWIW my tablet charges far faster when off vs on, as there's far less simultaneous drain on the battery. Not sure what's going on with yours.

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Techjourney said:
When I went to bed last night I had 19% power left. Like I normally do, connected my Note to charge overnight. Woke up 7 hours later to find that it had only charged up to 49%. Within 5 hours from a depleted battery, I usually have a full charge. Any thoughts as to why this is the case?
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I hadn't completely shutdown my tablet since the update last week. I did so yesterday and now charging times seem to be back to normal. Something new from the update I noticed, when batery gets somewhere around 20% left, the battery indicator changes from green to yellow.

My tablet gets about 10 hours on battery, or more if im just reading the web. The most intensive app I run is candy crush and s-note.
That being said it seems to charge quickly, in about 3 hours. My complaint is the short charging cable it shipped with.
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How do you handle your battery on a new phone?

Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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RotasOpera said:
Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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just charge it when it needs it, dont worry about what % its at, and dont worry about running them right down... the phone will power down before it gets to a dangerous level for the battery.
dont leave it plugged in all the time when its sat at 100, dont leave it down at 0 and just forget about it for weeks on end...
thats all you need to know
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in fact... read here, and note the bit about wireless charging! http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

Just enjoy your phone. Don't make it so difficult.
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mitchdickson said:
Just enjoy your phone. Don't make it so difficult.
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THIS IS XDA...
I suggest you lower your brightness to 0%, turn off the useless 3 cores, underclock to 100mhz, undervolt to 0.1v, turn off wifi/data/bt and be on airplane mode all the time and enjoy your month long battery life.

peachpuff said:
THIS IS XDA...
I suggest you lower your brightness to 0%, turn off the useless 3 cores, underclock to 100mhz, undervolt to 0.1v, turn off wifi/data/bt and be on airplane mode all the time and enjoy your month long battery life.
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Rofl
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[/COLOR]in fact... read here, and note the bit about wireless charging! http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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I don't buy the bit about wireless charging. I've used my Nexus 4 with an LG wireless charger daily for almost a year now and haven't noticed any side effects with battery drain or overheating. In fact, I'd argue that the Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7 get hotter when plugged in than they do on the wireless charger. I have absolutely no reservations about using the Nexus 5 on my LG wireless charger when it arrives this week.

RotasOpera said:
Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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Well the charge and discharge isn't necessary, IIRC that's only for older battery technologies like Ni-Cd batteries (Nickel-Cadmium). On the other side, you probably shouldn't let it discharge all the way since these are Li-Po and it could shorten their lifespan (apparently).

I just plug mine in whenever I'm near a charger.
I'm at work at my desk... its plugged into the charger.
I'm in my car... its plugged into the charger.
I'm at my girls house... its plugged into the charger.
I'm at home replying to xda / android central posts... its plugged into the charger.
This is what I've done with every phone I've had. I only had issues with one battery. I used to have sprint and I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic 4g Touch. After about 8 months the battery got fat (they said it was called a swollen battery at the sprint store) and it kept turning off. They gave me a new battery at the sprint store and I continued with my routine above and never had any other issues with it or any other phones.

drx895 said:
Well the charge and discharge isn't necessary, IIRC that's only for older battery technologies like Ni-Cd batteries (Nickel-Cadmium). On the other side, you probably shouldn't let it discharge all the way since these are Li-Po and it could shorten their lifespan (apparently).
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this is right on both accounts. you dont need to discharge it all the way, and doing so will reduce its life a little. i recently read about lithium poly batteries and the particular blog i was reading talked about running the battery down to 20% then charging it to 80%
i think when i first get the device i will use it down to 0%, charge it up to 100% uninterrupted and then hopefully keep it within that 20/80 range and probably doing a 0-100 refresh on the first of every month

If you guys want to read some in depth material on charging lithium batteries I would recommend reading this. Very informative.

dannstarr said:
dont leave it plugged in all the time when its sat at 100
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That's actually the concerning part when I do overnight charging, it's sat at 100 for quite a while!

Salty Wagyu said:
That's actually the concerning part when I do overnight charging, it's sat at 100 for quite a while!
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It's fine. Phone manufacturers know that people charge their phones overnight. That's why there is a trickle charge mechanism built into all phones nowadays.

u have to calibrate the battery too

Over the last month I've had somewhat of a binge of buying phones from Amazon and returning them for one reason or another and I've noticed that the first 1-3 days of phone ownership are usually the toughest on the phone / battery.
I've owned over the last 2 months (in order):
- S4
- HTC One (x3 as 2 were faulty out the box)
- LG G2
- S4
- N5
I've decided on the N5 as being the best for a number of reasons, but my favourite is price.
I havn't worked out whether it's a combination of new phone = more usage or new phone = requires battery calibration. But the N5 is the only device out the major players that actually made it through day 2 (the day after it came out the box) without a charge midway, infact it's ONLY JUST gone on the charger after some 28 hours of moderate (3 1/2 hours screen on) usage.
My gut feeling is that once you're out the first week just use the damn thing, but the first few charges can make a difference to how quickly the battery feels calibrated. My N5 came with 50% charge out the box, I ran it down to 0% and topped up charge as much as I could the first day. Once I got home I once more let it 0% and then did a full 0-100% recharge. Then my 28 hour experiment started and now I'll just use it as normal, and not worry.

I keep brightness at 50% to enjoy this beauty and I do not give a single **** about the battery.

Charge battery between 20% - 80%
Do not use phone while charging
Unplug charger when battery full

Hot after overnight charge (not wireless)

HI everyone, for the second day I noticed that after I left my N5 to charge overnight it was fairly hot after I took it off the charger. I have been leaving it to charge overnight for months and normally its not even warm since it trickle chargers after hitting 100%. My Nexus was charging right next to it and it was cool when I took that off the charger. It did fully charge and I checked if the phone was maybe not sleeping the entire night but that wasn't the case either. I checked with Current Widget and it was showing that even at 100% it was still taking around 200 mAh power. Usually it shows very minimal charge at 100%. Has this happened to anyone? I know I've read this happening with wireless chargers where it the phone wouldn't even charge, but in this case the phone was charged and it was just using the stock charger.
It also seems like I'm getting the Android OS bug after taking it off the charger. I suppose this might the cause of the entire thing. I'm just worried that it happened two days in a row.

The phone continues charging passed 100%. First it will still show 450mA eventually dropping to 200mA or so as you saw. Eventually true 100% is reached and the battery starts draining 0-10mA while the AC provides the rest.
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bblzd said:
The phone continues charging passed 100%. First it will still show 450mA eventually dropping to 200mA or so as you saw. Eventually true 100% is reached and the battery starts draining 0-10mA while the AC provides the rest.
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Thanks, that's what should happen. But it seemed the past two nights it never dropped to 0-10 mah. Which is why I think it was hot in the morning. I just charged it from about 70% to 100% and it did trickle charge this time, so hopefully the issue is solved now. Has this happened to anyone though?