As the top line subject thingy asks... is it possible to port HTC Sense to the Samsung Infuse?
I've read articles about sense being ported to the galaxy phones..
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johnmonster said:
As the top line subject thingy asks... is it possible to port HTC Sense to the Samsung Infuse?
I've read articles about sense being ported to the galaxy phones..
Help me understand better?
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Possible? Perhaps- it would require kernel change on a large scale and considering it has not yet been done during the time since the Infuse was released, not likely to be done. I believe I have seen a Sense theme somewhere, that's as close as it gets.
maybe over the new aosp kernels. way too much work over a stock rom. you would have to start with a nexus sense port and make changes from there. but remember there are still samsung libs and other blobs in our aosp so sense might not interface with that stuff very well. it has been done on the sgs with atleast partial success so i'd say it's possible but most people that like sense buy htc phones.. honestly i don't think it really offers anything over ics and jelly bean.
i know you can get a sense launcher over ics if that would satisfy you. maybe the widgets can be ported too but full sense might be a project.
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Title explains it all really, I'm wondering if its even possible to port sense 2.1 to the sensation.
I like sense 3 and all but its just not stable, I would prefer to have sense 2....I miss my desire hd became of it.
But obviously this phone has many hardware advancements so I wanted to see if it was possible to have sense 2 on it, then its like the best of both worlds
should be possible since its a sense rom but id say a new kernel would be needed?
Possible ? Sure, but I don't think that You'll find a developer which will try to port 2.1 on a device already coming with Sense 3.0.
Sense 2.1 is only build for older devices and not for sensation for evo. 3d
Is there any Sense 3.0 or 3.5 roms for Infuse?? I'm thinking of selling my mytouch 4g and getting an Infuse.
ROM: Darkside Sense 3.0.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283682
THEME: RCMix3D Runny Theme Animation v1.7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084232
Doubleshotcamera flashable zip
http://db.tt/NEUDR5rO
Nope no htc roms other very good ones though
Never ever going to happen .
wrong section too. you can Faux-Sense you infuse. thats about it.
Since the infuse doesn't use Qualcomm hardware or have open source drivers it is very difficult, plus most people who buy Samsung dislike sense or they would have bough an inspire.
Both sense and touch wiz needed specific kernels to run, a port would mean some bastard of a kernel and tons of hours of workarounds and trial and error, most developers with the skills wouldn't be interested. The galaxy s had a port but I don't know how functional it was and it had a specific kernel, our kernel is different from the galaxy s so even with that add a guide it will still take work. Don't count on ever seeing it happen.
Faux-Sense it... just graphics really... and for the widgets. Some are available in the market, if not all of them. the launcher use HeLauncher it has the Sense dock
Im new here and I was just wondering if someone could tell me if there were any ICS roms that arent themed at all or stripped of sense or have any cutomizations added to the developer of the rom.Im basically looking for A rom that looks like the galaxy nexus as close as possible
Link in my sig for Virtuous Inquisition...
Ohh looks like I said it wrong in my description,Im looking for a ROM as close to as the software found on the galaxy nexus.
i'm not aware of anything as complete as the Nexus' build of ICS that is available for the sensation (but that doesn't mean there won't be as long as all these lovely developers keep themselves hard at work).
might want to give virtuous inquisition or hypernonsense a look.
Weird question...would it be possible to port a sense 3.6 ics Rom?
I'm not dev, but just based on what I've seen in the past:
Just about anything is "hypothetically possible". Now whether its practically feasible or not, is an entirely different (and more important) question. There comes a point, where the work to port the ROM is simply too much, and it just doesn't make sense to port (poor cost versus benefit).
At a minimum, if the device the ROM is being ported from has a different screen resolution, all of the launcher graphics need to be resized, which is a good amount of work.
Not sure, but the hardware might need to be similar as well. If not, the hardware drivers are all wrong, and its way too much work to create new drivers.
Probably trumping all this, is that Sense 3.6 is pretty obsolete at this point. Variety in ROMs is usually a goodthing. But the usual point of porting, is to get the latest and greatest on the device. Older versions of Sense are typically going to be seen as a step backwards, and therefore generate little (if any) developer interest.
a box of kittens said:
Weird question...would it be possible to port a sense 3.6 ics Rom?
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If the kernel is similiar to a past one xl kernel than it makes things much easier. As well as stated above with resolution.
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There's someone in android themes porting a sense 3 6 theme/skin to jellybean. Haven't checked in the progress though
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Hi guys Happy 4th of July!
Question is: I am liking the Galaxy S4 a lot and I don't have an upgrade available until Oct/2014. Is there any ROM for the S3 that is similar to the Galaxy S4? or does anyone knows of any specials anywhere where I can upgrade now instead of waiting so long?
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Remember you can only get so close to the s4 software, as the hardware is entirely different, the software is usually based on the hArdware.but there is the s4 voice,s4 launcher, there's a couple of roms similar to the s4 can't think of any rite now but it's very easily found in the forum.
clean Rom/xda powerd by zero-lemon & tweaked out Guided by the power of Zeus kernel!!
Hulk0069 said:
Remember you can only get so close to the s4 software, as the hardware is entirely different, the software is usually based on the hArdware.but there is the s4 voice,s4 launcher, there's a couple of roms similar to the s4 can't think of any rite now but it's very easily found in the forum.
clean Rom/xda powerd by zero-lemon & tweaked out Guided by the power of Zeus kernel!!
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Thanks
I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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Div033 said:
I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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So what ROM would be the most similar to the one on the S4? I am running CleanRom 6.2 and I like it but is there any other option?
Div033 said:
I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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It is not as simple as having 4.2 kernel plus you have to better your explanation as we have Google AOSP 4.2 just not touchwiz 4.2. It is more to do with the hardware as it is easier to port from phones with similar hardware then it is to port from a phone with different specs. The best alternative is to port the apps and make an app like windows 8 launcher and Xperia Z launcher. So there isn't a "might be " there is another reason and that is hardware inconsistencies.
docmarioce said:
So what ROM would be the most similar to the one on the S4? I am running CleanRom 6.2 and I like it but is there any other option?
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Your best bet is to use a stock-ish MF1 based rom (cleanrom isn't up to date) and find + install a S4 apps package compatible with the S3. The S4 launcher and clock works fairly well on our phones. I don't think there are any roms that aim to mimic the S4 experience exclusively. They all have different theming elements with S4 apps here and there.
jmxc23 said:
It is not as simple as having 4.2 kernel plus you have to better your explanation as we have Google AOSP 4.2 just not touchwiz 4.2. It is more to do with the hardware as it is easier to port from phones with similar hardware then it is to port from a phone with different specs. The best alternative is to port the apps and make an app like windows 8 launcher and Xperia Z launcher. So there isn't a "might be " there is another reason and that is hardware inconsistencies.
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Sure, no problem.
The reason we're able to have a working 4.2 kernel for AOSP is because we're not reliant on Samsung's kernel source for that side of development. AOSP is completely open source as opposed to touchwiz which has proprietary framework that's closed source.
You mention hardware differences. I know things have changed drastically since GB, so perhaps the argument I'm about to make is invalid. On the Incredible we got roms from the Runnymede which had 100% completely different hardware. It had a chipset which was many generations ahead yet devs still managed to get Sense 3.5 roms running on a device which was not intended to run anything beyond Sense 1.0. It wasn't possible til we had a GB leak made for our phone (still sense 1.0). This is due to proprietary sense framework built in at the kernel level which the devs relied on for porting - they needed the updated 2.3 version of the sense bits. I know touchwiz isn't sense, so I could be making a bad comparison here, but saying "the hardware is too different" isn't a valid reason for porting to not be possible. It could be a very similar setup. I'm not familiar enough with touchwiz to be able to make that distinction though.
These Sense 3.5 roms were marred with several issues which ultimately made them impractical to use as a daily driver. This was mainly due to how outdated the incredible was and that it simply didn't have the resources to run the software adequately. They did get it working really well considering the limitations. It's also interesting to note that the development of the incredible still continues to this day with unofficial CM 10.1 roms. It's pretty amazing what these devs are actually capable of. It's just about getting the right dev interested enough to invest the time doing it.
Div033 said:
Your best bet is to use a stock-ish MF1 based rom (cleanrom isn't up to date) and find + install a S4 apps package compatible with the S3. The S4 launcher and clock works fairly well on our phones. I don't think there are any roms that aim to mimic the S4 experience exclusively. They all have different theming elements with S4 apps here and there.
Sure, no problem.
The reason we're able to have a working 4.2 kernel for AOSP is because we're not reliant on Samsung's kernel source for that side of development. AOSP is completely open source as opposed to touchwiz which has proprietary framework that's closed source.
You mention hardware differences. I know things have changed drastically since GB, so perhaps the argument I'm about to make is invalid. On the Incredible we got roms from the Runnymede which had 100% completely different hardware. It had a chipset which was many generations ahead yet devs still managed to get Sense 3.5 roms running on a device which was not intended to run anything beyond Sense 1.0. It wasn't possible til we had a GB leak made for our phone (still sense 1.0). This is due to proprietary sense framework built in at the kernel level which the devs relied on for porting - they needed the updated 2.3 version of the sense bits. I know touchwiz isn't sense, so I could be making a bad comparison here, but saying "the hardware is too different" isn't a valid reason for porting to not be possible. It could be a very similar setup. I'm not familiar enough with touchwiz to be able to make that distinction though.
These Sense 3.5 roms were marred with several issues which ultimately made them impractical to use as a daily driver. This was mainly due to how outdated the incredible was and that it simply didn't have the resources to run the software adequately. They did get it working really well considering the limitations. It's also interesting to note that the development of the incredible still continues to this day with unofficial CM 10.1 roms. It's pretty amazing what these devs are actually capable of. It's just about getting the right dev interested enough to invest the time doing it.
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True the sense 3 and 3.5 wasn't really good. We do have a Note 2,MIUI, and Sense 5 port for our devices and will likely to get ubuntu touch as soon as it is stable. Problem is that most of the developers don't have that much free time to attempt an international S3 or an US S4 port so they do what they can with the time they have.
jmxc23 said:
True the sense 3 and 3.5 wasn't really good. We do have a Note 2,MIUI, and Sense 5 port for our devices and will likely to get ubuntu touch as soon as it is stable. Problem is that most of the developers don't have that much free time to attempt an international S3 or an US S4 port so they do what they can with the time they have.
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I definitely agree; time is a huge issue. I'm assuming it's much more work porting a 4.2 based rom than it is a 2.3 based one. There's a good chance it's not worth the time investment considering the potentially buggy outcome.
Also, I apologize for assuming you didn't have any experience with earlier phones. Your join date threw me off
Div033 said:
I definitely agree; time is a huge issue. I'm assuming it's much more work porting a 4.2 based rom than it is a 2.3 based one. There's a good chance it's not worth the time investment considering the potentially buggy outcome.
Also, I apologize for assuming you didn't have any experience with earlier phones. Your join date threw me off
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I learn fast as the S3 is my first android device and within 3 days of buying the phone I rooted it and started flashing roms. I had ample opportunities to root/jailbreak my previous phones but waited until developers come up with better methods. As for the opening poster's question he will have to get the S4 launcher app and flash some of the S4 apps.
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