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Otas & being rooted

How does it work to recieve otas and be perm rooted w s off?
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I'm interested in this issue too!

mftek said:
How does it work to recieve otas and be perm rooted w s off?
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it depends on what you've modified/removed. If you haven't removed any of the "bloat" the phone should recieve OTAs fine. If you have it should still receive them, but depending on what the update is trying to patch it will most likely fail.

slhpss said:
it depends on what you've modified/removed. If you haven't removed any of the "bloat" the phone should recieve OTAs fine. If you have it should still receive them, but depending on what the update is trying to patch it will most likely fail.
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Oh ok. So being just rooted. Has no effect on otas
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it shouldn't, but only time will tell... why the need though? Any OTA updates that come out are going to be old news by the time they hit this phone... Why not just hop to CM or any number of other roms out there?

slhpss said:
it shouldn't, but only time will tell... why the need though? Any OTA updates that come out are going to be old news by the time they hit this phone... Why not just hop to CM or any number of other roms out there?
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That's true. Never thought of out like that. Lol. Thanks bro. I'm looking into the gorilla sense rom. But what happens if I don't want to use setcpu to overclock? What does the clockspeed stay at
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I actually use gorilla, i think by default his kernels are set to 800, but they allow you to go up to 1.7 so you can set it to what you want/need

slhpss said:
I actually use gorilla, i think by default his kernels are set to 800, but they allow you to go up to 1.7 so you can set it to what you want/need
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Cool. Thanks alot bro
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mftek said:
How does it work to recieve otas and be perm rooted w s off?
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slhpss said:
it depends on what you've modified/removed. If you haven't removed any of the "bloat" the phone should recieve OTAs fine. If you have it should still receive them, but depending on what the update is trying to patch it will most likely fail.
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^ This is accurate. The OTA updates will check to make sure the phone is "stock" before installing. They will download fine, just won't install.
I had this problem on my mytouch 3g. I deleted the amazon mp3 app from my stock rom and the froyo update failed. Big pain in the ass.
mftek said:
Oh ok. So being just rooted. Has no effect on otas
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Correct. When I finally copied the amazon mp3 app back to where it was supposed to be the update installed without incident.
If you want to remove the bloatware, DON'T delete it. Use Root Explorer to MOVE it to a safe place on your sdcard so you can MOVE it back if you want to receive an ota.
If you install a custom rom, ALWAYS keeps a nandroid of stock in case you want to go back and receive OTAs.

Phateless said:
^ This is accurate. The OTA updates will check to make sure the phone is "stock" before installing. They will download fine, just won't install.
I had this problem on my mytouch 3g. I deleted the amazon mp3 app from my stock rom and the froyo update failed. Big pain in the ass.
Correct. When I finally copied the amazon mp3 app back to where it was supposed to be the update installed without incident.
If you want to remove the bloatware, DON'T delete it. Use Root Explorer to MOVE it to a safe place on your sdcard so you can MOVE it back if you want to receive an ota.
If you install a custom rom, ALWAYS keeps a nandroid of stock in case you want to go back and receive OTAs.
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Thanks alot for this! Looks like we just helped each other out lol
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mftek said:
Thanks alot for this! Looks like we just helped each other out lol
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lol, I noticed! Love it.

Phateless said:
lol, I noticed! Love it.
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Phateless said:
^ This is accurate. The OTA updates will check to make sure the phone is "stock" before installing. They will download fine, just won't install.
I had this problem on my mytouch 3g. I deleted the amazon mp3 app from my stock rom and the froyo update failed. Big pain in the ass.
Correct. When I finally copied the amazon mp3 app back to where it was supposed to be the update installed without incident.
If you want to remove the bloatware, DON'T delete it. Use Root Explorer to MOVE it to a safe place on your sdcard so you can MOVE it back if you want to receive an ota.
If you install a custom rom, ALWAYS keeps a nandroid of stock in case you want to go back and receive OTAs.
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Or you can just freeze stock apps with titanium.

gaww said:
Or you can just freeze stock apps with titanium.
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Don't you still have to "unfreeze" them before you can accept an update? How does Titanium "freeze" apps, anyway? Does anyone know what it does?

Phateless said:
Don't you still have to "unfreeze" them before you can accept an update? How does Titanium "freeze" apps, anyway? Does anyone know what it does?
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I believe it works by isolating the app and any associated processes. So... It is still there but not running.
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jjlean said:
I believe it works by isolating the app and any associated processes. So... It is still there but not running.
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So it doesn't rename the app or anything? I was thinking I could manually do the same with Root Explorer by renaming bloatware from *.apk to *.bloat or something. In fact, maybe I'll do that...

If I downloaded a stock mytouch 4g rom will I still get ota's from t-mobile?? thank you. And can any of you provide a t-mobile stock mytouch4g rom? Pretty please with a rooted G2 on top.

darksulfur5 said:
If I downloaded a stock mytouch 4g rom will I still get ota's from t-mobile?? thank you. And can any of you provide a t-mobile stock mytouch4g rom? Pretty please with a rooted G2 on top.
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If you unroot back to factory you will get OTAs when they come. Do a search for pd15img.zip and it will come right up. Flash through hboot.

Phateless said:
If you unroot back to factory you will get OTAs when they come. Do a search for pd15img.zip and it will come right up. Flash through hboot.
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Sorry for sounding like an idiot, but is hboot the stock mt4g recovery mode?
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darksulfur5 said:
Sorry for sounding like an idiot, but is hboot the stock mt4g recovery mode?
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No, hboot is where you check for s-off.
Power off phone.
Pull and reinsert battery just to be sure you're truly OFF.
Hold vol down + power until you get to a white screen. THAT'S hboot.
From here the phone should auto-detect pd15img.zip and prompt you to start the update. DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL COMPLETE.

[Q] Inspire 4G, Stock Rooted ROMs and Updates...

Hi guys... I put the Bubby's Stock ROM on my Inspire 4G right After I bought my phone a few month ago and then I ve lost track of everything... now what I would like to understand is what updates are currently available if I go back to stock???
I've heard about sideloading enabled by ATT and HUSPA enabled by HTC.. is this true?
So my question is if i go back to RUU stock will I get all this stuff and if yes can I download SuperUser and all that cool root stuff and just remove the bloat myself but keeping the updates from ATT???

Roland_D said:
Hi guys... I put the Bubby's Stock ROM on my Inspire 4G right After I bought my phone a few month ago and then I ve lost track of everything... now what I would like to understand is what updates are currently available if I go back to stock???
I've heard about sideloading enabled by ATT and HUSPA enabled by HTC.. is this true?
So my question is if i go back to RUU stock will I get all this stuff and if yes can I download SuperUser and all that cool root stuff and just remove the bloat myself but keeping the updates from ATT???
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Or you can keep your rooted phone that already has sideloading enabled, flash the stock rooted rom that has the other radio-related updates included, available in the dev section, and save yourself the unnecessary trouble.... All those updates are available here without having to get them via ATT/htc.
Look for the ace Cingular rom by Attn1 in the dev section.

Roland_D said:
Hi guys... I put the Bubby's Stock ROM on my Inspire 4G right After I bought my phone a few month ago and then I ve lost track of everything... now what I would like to understand is what updates are currently available if I go back to stock???
I've heard about sideloading enabled by ATT and HUSPA enabled by HTC.. is this true?
So my question is if i go back to RUU stock will I get all this stuff and if yes can I download SuperUser and all that cool root stuff and just remove the bloat myself but keeping the updates from ATT???
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There is no need to do that. Just flash the latest from here and you will remain rooted. It's the latest firmware and radio from AT&T. Make sure you choose the one that has sideloading enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042

fernandezhjr said:
There is no need to do that. Just flash the latest from here and you will remain rooted. It's the latest firmware and radio from AT&T. Make sure you choose the one that has sideloading enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
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Thank you so much guys.
One last question maybe dumb... If i flash this ROM over my stock what will I loose?

Roland_D said:
Thank you so much guys.
One last question maybe dumb... If i flash this ROM over my stock what will I loose?
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It is going to wipe everything.
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Roland_D said:
Thank you so much guys.
One last question maybe dumb... If i flash this ROM over my stock what will I loose?
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This rom does a full wipe. You will lose everything that is on the phone. Sd card contents are safe. Contacts are most likely backed up to the HTC Sense server, but I would export them to the sd card anyways. Unless you have them in Google, then you should be good. Apps will need to be reinstalled.
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Update 1.82

Have you guys seen this yet?
http://briefmobile.com/download-att-one-x-update-with-wifi-fix
It supposedly fixes the wifi issues, has anyone downloaded it? If so, have you noticed if any of the other reported issues are fixed?

I imagine this removes root, correct?

I imagine it would, but I guess that's up to you if the update is worth losing root.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649658

look in the dev section we already have a download of it available, and it says root still works
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649658

is there anyway to backup the phone before the update? Because it states that the update will delete everything in my phone

ws2112 said:
is there anyway to backup the phone before the update? Because it states that the update will delete everything in my phone
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First time Android user with some needed guidance as well.

ws2112 said:
is there anyway to backup the phone before the update? Because it states that the update will delete everything in my phone
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what do you want to backup? most of it you can backup by transferring to a pc, or apps use titanium backup.

Has anyone tried this? Even though it says official, why would it be here and not through ATT or HTC?

ddaniel87 said:
Has anyone tried this? Even though it says official, why would it be here and not through ATT or HTC?
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It's a leak. Duuurrrrrrrr
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ddaniel87 said:
Has anyone tried this? Even though it says official, why would it be here and not through ATT or HTC?
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because its a leak
at the bottom of the page "Thanks to our anonymous source!"
just like the original one was out before we even got the phone

ddaniel87 said:
Has anyone tried this? Even though it says official, why would it be here and not through ATT or HTC?
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I was wondering the same.

i really dont doubt its credibility. but if your scared, wait for the official eta
no ones putting a gun to your head and telling you to flash it lol

What does "smoother / better performance" mean? Not literally, but what exactly has been altered here except the WiFi fix?

Why doesn't this anonymous person leak an unlock bootloader lol

Raadius said:
Why doesn't this anonymous person leak an unlock bootloader lol
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You can't
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ws2112 said:
is there anyway to backup the phone before the update? Because it states that the update will delete everything in my phone
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Root, backup apps+apps data with titanium backup, flash RUU, re-root, restore apps+data!
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Like someone asked previously does this still allow you to get ota updates?

and od you have an idea of improvments

I downloaded it last night and these are the things I noticed.
-I do have to note that I didn't have the wifi issue so I can't comment on that.
-The notification led bug still exists where you turn it off yet it still seems to blink.
-When I click on YouTube link it actually takes me to the YouTube app instead of the mobile page.
- I haven't noticed any difference in speed and performance. Seems the same to me.
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Root

If I want the new OTA, I could just do it manually which would cause me to loose my root correct? Then I could just use the One click new method to reroot, unlock, and gain recovery? Last question would be would I then be able to put my rom(saved in recovery back on the phone with the new build??? Thx

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Fitz012 said:
If I want the new OTA, I could just do it manually which would cause me to loose my root correct? Then I could just use the One click new method to reroot, unlock, and gain recovery? Last question would be would I then be able to put my rom(saved in recovery back on the phone with the new build??? Thx
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I think you may be confused...What are you hoping to achieve from the OTA?

sbenson1226 said:
I think you may be confused...What are you hoping to achieve from the OTA?
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Just looking to upgrade to the new OTA from verizon...the MF1...Then reroot, unlock, and add recovery so I can eventually flash back to the Rom im currently running...Any info you can give me about the process I would greatly appreciate.

Fitz012 said:
If I want the new OTA, I could just do it manually which would cause me to loose my root correct? Then I could just use the One click new method to reroot, unlock, and gain recovery? Last question would be would I then be able to put my rom(saved in recovery back on the phone with the new build??? Thx
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If you're rooted now, I'm sure there is the new OTA out there that can be flashed. That's all you gotta do if you wanna run the stock OTA. But you won't gain anything by unrooting, taking the OTA and then rerooting... just a waste of time.
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RBarnett09 said:
If you're rooted now, I'm sure there is the new OTA out there that can be flashed. That's all you gotta do if you wanna run the stock OTA. But you won't gain anything by unrooting, taking the OTA and then rerooting... just a waste of time.
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Oh Ok...I gotcha. Thx for your help. I was under the impression its better to take the OTA directly from verizon instead of just flashing the file in recovery...Thx again for your help. Much appreciated.

Fitz012 said:
Oh Ok...I gotcha. Thx for your help. I was under the impression its better to take the OTA directly from verizon instead of just flashing the file in recovery...Thx again for your help. Much appreciated.
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I used ez-recovery and ez-unlock and root keeper and it worked great.

kidhudi said:
I used ez-recovery and ez-unlock and root keeper and it worked great.
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Can you provide the steps you followed.
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deleted because may cause soft brick situation. thanks

I would've flashed Scotts stock root deodexed vrbmf1 he posted. If you haven't tried taking the ota, flashing the stock root deodexed ROM is a much faster and more beneficial way to go and gives you init.d, theme support etc.
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Stock with root now what?

so I am still on the stock rom I never flashed a new rom be4 on this s5
I don't mind the stock rom but have some questions.
I am being prompted for 2 updates!
1 is the software update
2 is the security policy update
what happens if I accept them? will I loose root?
& what should i do and if so could I remove the nag?

jackrabbit72380 said:
so I am still on the stock rom I never flashed a new rom be4 on this s5
I don't mind the stock rom but have some questions.
I am being prompted for 2 updates!
1 is the software update
2 is the security policy update
what happens if I accept them? will I loose root?
& what should i do and if so could I remove the nag?
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If you accept the updates and if it goes through, yes, you would lose the root.
Are you sure you are completely rooted? Because you shouldn't be receiving those update notifications if you are.

Robbie Doo said:
If you accept the updates and if it goes through, yes, you would lose the root.
Are you sure you are completely rooted? Because you shouldn't be receiving those update notifications if you are.
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i have been receving the update noteifications and security policy noteifications sence i bought the phone and root checker basic says congrats this device has root accsess!
I don't want these noteifications in my drop down i would love to update with out looseing any abbilitys or root accsess.

I think if u update you won't lose root access.
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5zan said:
I think if u update you won't lose root access.
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well its nice to think so but i would love confirmation before i go messing up my phone!
I would think the security policy update would definitely break root!
no offence but judging buy your join date and post count your knowledge on this subject is not so rep able!:laugh:

jackrabbit72380 said:
well its nice to think so but i would love confirmation before i go messing up my phone!
I would think the security policy update would definitely break root!
no offence but judging buy your join date and post count your knowledge on this subject is not so rep able!:laugh:
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Yes! Sorry for that. I did some research & if you update you will lose root provided you are using the stock recovery & bootloader. If u are using a different one,ur phone might not boot after updating. If you are using a stock bootloader I suggest u update,lose root & root again
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jackrabbit72380 said:
well its nice to think so but i would love confirmation before i go messing up my phone!
I would think the security policy update would definitely break root!
no offence but judging buy your join date and post count your knowledge on this subject is not so rep able!:laugh:
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Yes, you will lose root for sure because that's what happened to my friend. However, after update I re-rooted for him. I know it's tedious but that's what you have to go through.

Or u can download the ota file in zip format & flash using recovery. It'll work as long as you are using stock ROM with no modifications. & most likely you won't lose root
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5zan said:
Or u can download the ota file in zip format & flash using recovery. It'll work as long as you are using stock ROM with no modifications. & most likely you won't lose root
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im using stock rom with twrp v2700 recovery
can i just accept the update and re root through twrp?
or is my phone not going to boot when i accept the update?

jackrabbit72380 said:
im using stock rom with twrp v2700 recovery
can i just accept the update and re root through twrp?
or is my phone not going to boot when i accept the update?
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I don't think so. After update the phone might not boot & keep going into recovery. I suggest u flash stock recovery & then update & fish twrp again. Or you could try your luck and update & let's see what happens.
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5zan said:
I don't think so. After update the phone might not boot & keep going into recovery. I suggest u flash stock recovery & then update & fish twrp again. Or you could try your luck and update & let's see what happens.
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um where do i download stock recovery?

jackrabbit72380 said:
um where do i download stock recovery?
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I'm afraid I do not know. Just search here or in Google and u'll find out how.
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5zan said:
I'm afraid I do not know. Just search here or in Google and u'll find out how.
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That's basically the worst answer to any question ever asked!
I expect google to replace human interaction any day now!
Can anyone point me to stock recovery or tell me if it's safe to update with out bricking my device?

jackrabbit72380 said:
um where do i download stock recovery?
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I believe this is the latest stock file. It will un-root your phone and put it in stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787760