I am looking to flash my phone to ICS/Jelly Bean and have some questions.
1. Does updating to those ROMs impact multitasking? I wonder because they probably eat up a lot more RAM and when I use browsers, I tend to open a lot of tabs which is heavy on RAM usage
2. Is there a performance difference between JB and ICS on the Cappy?
3. Should I go with a built-in kernel or flash a separate one?
4. My phone has never had its kernel changed, same default filesystem, lag etc. etc., should I do anything extra before flashing?
5. I read on another post on the front page that the JB/ICS ROMs also use the internal SD card, mine is mostly full at the moment, how much space do the new ROMs take up?
Thanks for any help. Been considering flashing for a year but my phone recently got the lock screen button stuck problem and now I'm at a crossroads, either I buy a new phone entirely or maybe try to keep this one for a year until my contract runs out and deal with the lock screen problem.
skomes said:
I am looking to flash my phone to ICS/Jelly Bean and have some questions.
1. Does updating to those ROMs impact multitasking? I wonder because they probably eat up a lot more RAM and when I use browsers, I tend to open a lot of tabs which is heavy on RAM usage
2. Is there a performance difference between JB and ICS on the Cappy?
3. Should I go with a built-in kernel or flash a separate one?
4. My phone has never had its kernel changed, same default filesystem, lag etc. etc., should I do anything extra before flashing?
5. I read on another post on the front page that the JB/ICS ROMs also use the internal SD card, mine is mostly full at the moment, how much space do the new ROMs take up?
Thanks for any help. Been considering flashing for a year but my phone recently got the lock screen button stuck problem and now I'm at a crossroads, either I buy a new phone entirely or maybe try to keep this one for a year until my contract runs out and deal with the lock screen problem.
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1. In my experience multitasking isn't a problem on either but I don't open a lot of tabs in my browser so could be different for you.
2. If you want good clean performance go with ICS. Jelly Bean roms are still more or less in beta.
3. As far as kernels go stick with the kernel built into the from unless it instructs you otherwise. Or if you are looking for some feature that one kernel offers that another doesn't.
4. Read, read, and then read the instructions again for whatever rom you are going to and follow them. Depending on where you are starting from you may have to do different things.
5. I've personally never paid attention to how much it uses the internal SD if at all. I do know that some ICS and Jelly Bean roms have potential to format your SD card during the flash so make sure you do a backup before moving forward.
When you say the lock screen are you talking about the power button? If yes be very careful moving forward with any flashing. I say that because the power button is used to put the phone into recovery. There are other methods to get into recovery but they don't work for everyone.
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m1batt1 said:
1. In my experience multitasking isn't a problem on either but I don't open a lot of tabs in my browser so could be different for you.
2. If you want good clean performance go with ICS. Jelly Bean roms are still more or less in beta.
3. As far as kernels go stick with the kernel built into the from unless it instructs you otherwise. Or if you are looking for some feature that one kernel offers that another doesn't.
4. Read, read, and then read the instructions again for whatever rom you are going to and follow them. Depending on where you are starting from you may have to do different things.
5. I've personally never paid attention to how much it uses the internal SD if at all. I do know that some ICS and Jelly Bean roms have potential to format your SD card during the flash so make sure you do a backup before moving forward.
When you say the lock screen are you talking about the power button? If yes be very careful moving forward with any flashing. I say that because the power button is used to put the phone into recovery. There are other methods to get into recovery but they don't work for everyone.
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I guess that is a good point. My lock screen buttons works but not 100% of the time. Originally the problem hit and it didn't work at all, now it works probably 70% of the time. I didn't remember that I would need it to get into recovery. Maybe I would need to buy a jig, but I guess I should flash now in case it stops working entirely down the line.
I'm also considering buying an S3 but it is quite expensive, at least $620 for it unlocked.
I had wanted to jump into JB because I was looking for decent performance and I don't think I'll be flashing a ton. I've got like 80 apps, tons of home screen stuff etc. that I don't want to restore many times. I just figured if JB is faster, I'd rather go with it.
Thanks for the helping me out.
A jig isn't the best bet because it forces it into download mode. If your button is currently working go for it. Jelly bean roms will eventually be the best thing out there but most of the roms for it haven't been perfected yet.
I have been on everything from 2.1 and up and I can tell you ICS is the best stable thing out there. At least in my opinion.
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skomes said:
I guess that is a good point. My lock screen buttons works but not 100% of the time. Originally the problem hit and it didn't work at all, now it works probably 70% of the time. I didn't remember that I would need it to get into recovery. Maybe I would need to buy a jig, but I guess I should flash now in case it stops working entirely down the line.
I'm also considering buying an S3 but it is quite expensive, at least $620 for it unlocked.
I had wanted to jump into JB because I was looking for decent performance and I don't think I'll be flashing a ton. I've got like 80 apps, tons of home screen stuff etc. that I don't want to restore many times. I just figured if JB is faster, I'd rather go with it.
Thanks for the helping me out.
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I've run a rooted 2.2, a rooted 2.3.5, and a few different ROM's, I find that the easiest to use so far is JB, depending on the ROM itself you may run into a few issues with battery drain, but it's not horrible. Multitasking is fine, but I have OS monitor and a RAM booster for quick mem clearing. The only problems that I've ran into with JB ROM's is that you have make sure the internal memory card is backed up, otherwise you'll lose everything you have on it.
I too have thought about getting a SG3, but after flashing the JB ROM, I think I'm satiated until I absolutely have to upgrade my phone.... meaning I'm probably going to stick with this one for another year or so depending on if I'm able to keep it in decent enough shape. For the CM10 ROM's, they've removed the /datadata folder so that may affect slight performance. I got used to it after flashing a ROM that kept the /datadata folder and noticed that it wasn't giving me enough space to work my usual programs on a consistent basis. But overall I'm content with the ROM I chose and the performance so far.
You can always do adb reboot recovery
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korockinout13 said:
You can always do adb reboot recovery
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That is true but adb wouldn't help him much if he's stuck in a boot loop. That's when a functioning power button is important.
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skomes said:
I am looking to flash my phone to ICS/Jelly Bean and have some questions.
1. Does updating to those ROMs impact multitasking? I wonder because they probably eat up a lot more RAM and when I use browsers, I tend to open a lot of tabs which is heavy on RAM usage
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According to my expirience, ICS much better in multitasking, comparing with GB. ICS kernel consumes less RAM and more stable.
skomes said:
2. Is there a performance difference between JB and ICS on the Cappy?
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JB for cappy is not stable yet.
skomes said:
3. Should I go with a built-in kernel or flash a separate one?
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If you a going to install CM or AOKP, you defiantly have to install custom kernel. You will also have to install custom baseband (modem). I suppose, same goes to other roms.
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4. My phone has never had its kernel changed, same default filesystem, lag etc. etc., should I do anything extra before flashing?
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Yes. RTFM for the rom you are going to flash. You will have to wipe data and cache, and maybe update bootrom.
I am reading stuff, but a lot of guides say 'Coming from GB' BUT they DO NOT say 'coming from stock', so I wasn't sure if those guides were applicable.
Will CM10 wipe my SD card?
Thanks for all the help so far. Going to flash within a couple of days.
I was figuring Helly Bean but most of the JB roms want you to flash CM10 first anway, so I'll try that out.
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See TRusselo's Flashin Guide for assistance... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19425513&postcount=1
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Tried following that guide.
Heimdall links are all dead.
Opened Odin, downloaded speedmod kernel, figured I'd install it, then download the rom to SD card and go. I was pretty sure speedmod works with stock Captivate.
Flashed speedmod and now my phone is stuck on the Galaxy S boot screen.
So yeah...that sucked.
Now I'm trying to restore stock with Odin but the instructions don't even say how.
Yeah this is why I don't see myself flashing very often...
And that guide needs more detail.
Ok, well I managed to install CM9.
I'm going to stick with it for now because a couple of you guys warned me off of Jelly Bean.
skomes said:
Ok, well I managed to install CM9.
I'm going to stick with it for now because a couple of you guys warned me off of Jelly Bean.
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I'm currently on the 8/13 nightly build of Helly Bean (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783064)
I can say that this particular ROM is ready for use as a daily driver. I've been using it for about a week now and haven't experienced any problems.
With that said, it is important to note that as said before, JB roms are still in beta, including this one. Also it is important to say that I did a completely clean install of this particular ROM (Factory data reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik cache, etc).
Just thought I let ya know that not all JB roms are scary right now. If you're interested in possibly flashing it, here's the official website: http://hellybean.site11.com/index.html
Don't forget to backup your /EFS folder though, recently some people have had problems with their imei being switched, but this is easily avoidable if you take the proper precautions. Other than that, this ROM is great.
Yeah, I actually mentioned Helly Bean on page 1, it was the JB rom I was considering because it was getting rave reviews.
I had a scare last night about my IMEI then I remembered my IMEI doesn't match my box because it was warranty replaced with a refurb for the shutdown issue, lol, I was freaking out but good thing is it made me backup the EFS folder.
Thanks for the support.
I'll give Helly Bean a try in a bit, I hear it is very snappy and I'm excited about that, coming from stock Gingerbread, I really appreciate an OS that doesn't run like crap!
Does Helly Bean wipe your internal SD card? I was searching for that and couldn't find anything, so I think that means no, but wanted to make sure!
skomes said:
Does Helly Bean wipe your internal SD card? I was searching for that and couldn't find anything, so I think that means no, but wanted to make sure!
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As with any custom ROM there is a potential for odd things happening on one phone that doesn't happen on another. With that being said I flashed helly bean and it didn't format my SD card nor has it effected my efs folder like some people have had trouble with.
Your best bet is to backup everything important to you and the operation of your phone prior to flashing just to be safe.
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Backup your efs folder before flashing anything
A few questions before I try Helly Bean, I noted that the kernel is separately available on the download site, am I supposed to flash it separately or is it included with the ROM? The flashing guide doesn't say anything about flashing a kernel.
And I should be able to flash it directly from CM9, correct?
Also this ROM is a lot bigger than CM9, 180MB vs 300MB, does that mean I have far less internal SD space available?
skomes said:
A few questions before I try Helly Bean, I noted that the kernel is separately available on the download site, am I supposed to flash it separately or is it included with the ROM? The flashing guide doesn't say anything about flashing a kernel.
And I should be able to flash it directly from CM9, correct?
Also this ROM is a lot bigger than CM9, 180MB vs 300MB, does that mean I have far less internal SD space available?
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Answering my own questions in case other people need help.
Yes
Yes
No
I installed Helly Bean but for me, it is laggier than CM9 so I am disappointed.
Related
Just sharing my experience in upgrading to Jelly Bean on the Captivate.
Before you begin:
Before you begin, back up your efs partition.
Some ICS and JB ROMS have issues where they will forget your IMEI. If this is the case you'll need to restore your efs partition. If you don't already have a back up, you'll have to reflash to stock (pain in the butt) so that you can back up your efs so that you can restore it on your shiny new ROM. Without an IMEI, you won't be able to make calls or access wireless networks.
How to Backup/restore EFS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859914
General Process
ICS and Jelly Bean are too big to put the entire rom in /system, so the current practice is to break up the ROM into 2 or more zip files (the ROM itself and a second zip that has essential apps like the Market). Both have to be flashed.
The ROMs have upgraded CWM (Recovery Modules) so you have to flash the ROM twice. The first time installs the CWM, the second time installs the ROM.
My journey
I had been using Mosaic, which is now defunct. When I started seeing posts from Studacris (former Mosaic developer) from several months ago saying "Gingerbread? What is this the stone age?" I decided perhaps is was time to upgrade to ICS.
Of course when I started looking at ICS ROMS, it turns out that now there are Jelly Bean ROMS available as well. Some people say the JB ROMS solve several problems with ICS. Others say the ICS are more stable for now.
Moral of the story. Your Captivate is unique. You won't know which is which until you try them, but my journey may help you.
1. I want to try Slim Bean, but coming from Gingerbread, it's recommended to start on Cynanogen (CM)
2. So I might as well try CM, but do I try CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB)?
3. Ah what the heck, let's go CM10!!!
4. Okay, there's at least four versions. The official, three unofficials of varying "v" releases, the Devil version with datadata (what the heck is datadata?), some guy's custom rolled ROM which he says is likely to brick your phone.
5. Okay, I'll try the latest V8 version with the Devil kernel (note, you should use the version with datadata).
6. Flash goes fine, but now it hangs on black screen with the word Android. After 30 minutes, I figured it really was hanged. Reflashing and rewiping solved that problem.
7. I had a lot of issues with it (see below), so I decided to try Slim ICS.
8. I had other issues with SlimICS (see below), so what the heck, let's try Slim Bean.
9. Slim Bean seems like a keeper to me: Fast; great feautures; decent launcher (vastly better than SlimICS). Only real problem I'm finding is that the Market won't let me install (or even see) Astro Player, which is one of my absolute must have apps. Still trying the dev's workaround.
CM 10 Issues:
Outdated:
1. The home key and back key are reversed.
2. My IMEI was wrong, and restoring EFS didn't help
3. I experienced intermittent lag on the launcher
Update CM10
Everything works fine in CM10 Helly Bean (29.07.2012). Faster than Slim.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783064.
Slim ICS Issues
The first thing the Slim ICS installer does is install its own CWM and in the process it will erase your sdcard (internal memory)
SO....
1. Back up your internal SDCARD before you start
2. To save time, put the zip files on your external card also (the newer CWM will let you install from the external card)
3. I hate the launcher
4. I still couldn't make phone calls.
Slim Bean issues
Works great except for the market issue. Seems to be a problem with the DPI. Still waiting to see if it resolves. Alternatively, I could try to restore my Mosaic version of Astro Player with Titanium back up.
Update:
1. Market issue resolved after about 36 hours of following the fix on the website.
2. Internal card and sdcard were reversed, (/sdcard and /emmc)
Conclusion
I hope my journey helps someone out there.
patrokov said:
Slim Bean issues
Works great except for the market issue. Seems to be a problem with the DPI. Still waiting to see if it resolves. Alternatively, I could try to restore my Mosaic version of Astro Player with Titanium back up.
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Apps still aren't showing up in the market, but the TiBu restored apps work fine.
patrokov said:
Slim ICS Issues
The first thing the Slim ICS installer does is install its own CWM and in the process it will erase your sdcard (internal memory)
SO....
1. Back up your internal SDCARD before you start
2. To save time, put the zip files on your external card also (the newer CWM will let you install from the external card)
3. I hate the launcher
4. I still couldn't make phone calls.
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I initially had that issue of not being able to make any calls. I didn't even have ANY service. Then I went to check which baseband/modem I had and sure enough I found the rom didn't flash a modem. I had to go find one and flash it. After that it worked perfectly.
I also didn't like the new Lightning Launcher so I went back to the old launcher they used - Zeam Launcher.
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I initially had that issue of not being able to make any calls. I didn't even have ANY service. Then I went to check which baseband/modem I had and sure enough I found the rom didn't flash a modem. I had to go find one and flash it. After that it worked perfectly.
I also didn't like the new Lightning Launcher so I went back to the old launcher they used - Zeam Launcher.
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Which modem did you end up flashing?
CM 10 Issues:
1. The home key and back key are reversed.
2. My IMEI was wrong, and restoring EFS didn't help
3. I experienced intermittent lag on the launcher
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1 sounds like you did not flash a proper kernel
2 no imei troubles here
3 NO LAG WHAT SO EVER
CheesyNutz said:
1 sounds like you did not flash a proper kernel
2 no imei troubles here
3 NO LAG WHAT SO EVER
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CM10 comes with the Devil kernel. Flashing another kernel is not part of their installation instructions.
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CM10 comes with the Devil kernel. Flashing another kernel is not part of their installation instructions.
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It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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Which modem did you end up flashing?
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I tried most of them. I live in the Washington DC area and I found the latest XXJVU worked best for me. You'll just have to find out which one works best for you.
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It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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I flashed the CM10 that was to be renamed Helly Bean, following these directions: http://hellybean.site11.com/help.html
(at the time the url was something like cm10.site11.com but the directions are the same.)
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It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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Exactly
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CheesyNutz said:
Exactly
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takeoutttt said:
It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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This is what I originally flashed and had all the issues with. Is this the wrong one?
http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/divers/devil_jellybean/rom/v8/
Tonight I flashed this one, and everything works perfectly.
http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/divers/devil_jellybean/rom/20120729/
The reason I ask is that I'm trying to find out whether it was my error or some weirdness on my cappy's part.
patrokov said:
I flashed the CM10 that was to be renamed Helly Bean, following these directions: http://hellybean.site11.com/help.html
(at the time the url was something like cm10.site11.com but the directions are the same.)
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I don't personally recommend that page because it was not actually tested yet by porters it means that the file in that site was raw JB. Recently derteufel uploaded a version that is "busted". So I would suggest to pay a visit to the HellBean thread and test a version that has already ported.
I just installed the stable CM9 and I don't really like what I am seeing. The lag on the home screen is unbearable and sometimes the notification bar splits into two when I am pulling it down. I will definitely try a CM10 rom and see how well it functions but I want to use the most stable version, or better yet the one with the least issues that I can use as my day to day rom. I really don't want to go through the trouble of installing every single JB rom.
droyd666 said:
I will definitely try a CM10 rom and see how well it functions but I want to use the most stable version, or better yet the one with the least issues that I can use as my day to day rom. I really don't want to go through the trouble of installing every single JB rom.
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I'd definitely recommend Helly Bean first, in that case.
helly bean all the way. the only problem i have with it is when flashing a new rom (whether its the same to re-flash or upgrading to latest) you lose google now.
I'm running the 8/11 build OF CM10 KANG builds "JELLYBRO" by Makelegs, it's running great! Here's the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803709
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Definitely Helly Bean. Make sure to do a solid master clear and format of your phone first, then flash the latest helly bean. Long time user of slimics then slimbean and just switched over.
Only jellybean rom I've found that works FAST right out of the box, and even better when changing a few settings with devil kernel config. Only rom in which devil config settings actually stick after reboot as well!
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helly bean all the way. the only problem i have with it is when flashing a new rom (whether its the same to re-flash or upgrading to latest) you lose google now.
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Not if you flash the add-on like you are supposed to...
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So far the latest cm9 nightly is the only ics that has worked well for me. All the jb roms I tried have me a lot of issues (sd card switch, no modem-couldn't even flash a modem, etc) so I haven't built up the confidence to try again.
My problems aren't with ROM behavior, but rather the newer versions of system apps. The phone app on gb had a feature at the end of a phone call to redial or text the person you just called. Miss that. Also the clock app doesn't have the world clock. Not a fan of that one. Over all everything is smooth but a lot of features I had with apex 12 are greatly missed.
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simple man said:
I'm running the 8/11 build OF CM10 KANG builds "JELLYBRO" by Makelegs, it's running great! Here's the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803709
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I also applaud jellybro on my phone and flash each day with new builds as they come. Remeber to have a quick read thro the cherry picks to see what was changed/added/fixed. Runs great!
I do use the devil kernel with it tho - http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/jellybean/Cappy/113/. I use the CMC one.
Matt/eg.
I'm a little lost, I've been reading for days and can't seem to find my answer..here goes
Coming from droid1 were I could flash new to old and vice versa..had the s3 for a couple of weeks, I'm on beans 13 kernel lean1.0 and hd radio..the other day I was on clean 2.5, and before that on synergy..can I keep bouncing around like that, our do I need to do Odin thingie? I see were root'ers are Odin then taking this new update and looks like killer battery life..I don't really have a preference on roms , just nead a little help on doing it proper..txs
You can just keep flashing until you find a ROM you like. Odin is just basically when things are messed up and you need to go back to stock. I think it was RSD on the Droid 1.
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kintwofan said:
You can just keep flashing until you find a ROM you like. Odin is just basically when things are messed up and you need to go back to stock. I think it was RSD on the Droid 1.
Sent from my Galaxy S3 running Eclipse ROM V2.1
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You can flash it just to go back to stock. Doesn't have to be cause you messed the phone up. I think it's also good to do it occasionally with a pit file to wipe/fix all partitions (not just /system and /data, but ones like the hidden radio/GPS partition etc.)
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xsteven77x said:
You can flash it just to go back to stock. Doesn't have to be cause you messed the phone up. I think it's also good to do it occasionally with a pit file to wipe/fix all partitions (not just /system and /data, but ones like the hidden radio/GPS partition etc.)
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Well of course you can use it to just go back to stock, but the average user only does it when they mess up. I do agree though I personally even I find my daily driver like to start fresh then flash the keeper ROM.
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Have been rooted since day of pre-order delivery. Have flashed multiple ICS/JB TW roms. I stay away from AOKP/CM roms just because of loss of features so can't report on those. I have never lost wifi or GPS. Never had sim card error. Had no problems with TWRP and haven't used CWM since worked with Koush on Tbolt problems. We worked those out and I still run CWM touch on Tbolt. Used Amon on Rezound. Recoveries are what you feel comfortable with. I use whatever works best for the device although that is irrelevant to this subject. I still use the old school clean wipe of data/cache/dalvic cache/system for all flashes on all devices and all recoveries. Ultimately have never had a reason to use Odin or go back to stock since initial root. Only bugs I have seen are rom related and nandroid back to working rom fixed it. There are differing opinions on what I have just posted but I have had no problems with flashing anything on my last 3 devices and have never bricked a phone even though I may flash 10 times a day for multiple devs on multiple devices. Maybe the old school recovery devs were on to something. Beats me.
Kool..I'm catching on., slowly..
Now If I do an Odin with pda can I use a rooted oem Rom to accomplish this newest leak that is said to have killer batt life?
takota6 said:
Kool..I'm catching on., slowly..
Now If I do an Odin with pda can I use a rooted oem Rom to accomplish this newest leak that is said to have killer batt life?
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Yes you can but they all have killer batter life. No need to Odin you can flash it in recovery. Only have to Odin stock RUU to get firmware update. If you do it could loose root and ability to unlock boot loader. You will have it as long as you keep it. As soon as you flash another rom it will wipe that one and you will be on the base that the rom is based on. This is why the devs update to latest bases whether they be leaks or official. Best you can do is flash newer radios and kernels unless the ROM Gods tell us to update firmware and then it will be checked and deemed safe. Never Odin/flash an OTA/leak unless it has been cleared by the Android Gods. I have only used Odin once and that was because that was only way to root on original pre-order. :laugh:
be sure to back up internal sd card
takota6 said:
I'm a little lost, I've been reading for days and can't seem to find my answer..here goes
Coming from droid1 were I could flash new to old and vice versa..had the s3 for a couple of weeks, I'm on beans 13 kernel lean1.0 and hd radio..the other day I was on clean 2.5, and before that on synergy..can I keep bouncing around like that, our do I need to do Odin thingie? I see were root'ers are Odin then taking this new update and looks like killer battery life..I don't really have a preference on roms , just nead a little help on doing it proper..txs
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Don't forget to back up internal sd card. Odin will wipe it when you flash.
This is my first time installing a custom ROM, but I keep following all of the right steps but get the same result.
I have a North American Atrix 2 and it was running 4.0.4.
I have succesfully roooted it and this is what I have been doing:
1) Backup with Titanium
2) Installing Atrix2Bootstrap.apk which is saved from my flash drive
3) Once in recovery mode I will wipe all data, cache, and dalvik cache.
4) I then select unzip from SD card and choose the victory .zip ROM I downloaded
Everytime I do this it says it was successful, then just goes to a black screen after the Motorola screen and keeps restarting.
I've downloaded a the .zip of my stock ROM and use RSD Lite to bring it back to factory default, but I have tried this multiple times and get the same result and cannot figure out what I am doing wrong.
Any input would be great, or if maybe Victory is just a bad ROM. I am really looking for a simple, light ROM that will not slow down the phone or drain the battery.
VictoryROM is for Gingerbread (2.3.6) only. You can not install it on 4.0.4
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Thank you very much for the clarification! That explains the issues I've been having.
Is there a comparable ROM for 4.0.4? I know there are other ROMs but I am more interested in a clean and simple ROM that will give me the best battery and just be simple and I'm afraid the newer ROMs will push the RAM on my phone and hurt the battery life like ICS did when I switched from GB
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Thank you very much for the clarification! That explains the issues I've been having.
Is there a comparable ROM for 4.0.4? I know there are other ROMs but I am more interested in a clean and simple ROM that will give me the best battery and just be simple and I'm afraid the newer ROMs will push the RAM on my phone and hurt the battery life like ICS did when I switched from GB
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Numa is your only option. aside from stock or a leak. Dev's are focusing on Kexec. and AOSP JB builds.
Sad, as they suck for stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31369428
Here is an excellent ics ROM . Stock ICS with performance and battery improvements.
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Hello, all.
I have a T-Mobile Blaze 4G with rooted stock ROM (Gingerbread), flashed radio version T989UVMC6, manually debloated and dewizzed. I'm running Halo launcher and Busybox Free version 9.6.
Since almost the first day I've had this phone, it would occasionally force close the phone process, usually when hanging up the phone with the Bluetooth radio on and paired with an earpiece. It happened bone stock, rooted, after I changed the modem, whenever. It seemed to happen less often after I changed the modem. The process always starts back up, but the Bluetooth device connection and system sound controls are wonky (unusable) until the phone is rebooted.
The only thing that seems to stop it is running Zepplinrox's V6 Supercharger script. That, however, occasionally freezes the entire system when trying to open certain apps, requiring a reboot. I've run earch after search on this subject, and nobody else seems to have this problem. The only thing I haven't tried is wiping the whole thing and flashing a custom ICS or JB ROM. I tried Dark Knight ver. 8 and hated it pretty much instantly.
I have two questions. Number one; Will flashing a custom ROM fix this situation? I figure that this must be a problem with the crappy stock Samsung ROM. Number two; Which ROM is fully functional and stable? I'd really like to keep this phone dependable. I don't care about the latest and greatest funky cool features that are hit-or-miss at best. I just need dependable, fast and functional.
Since you have been having issues for a while, I would suggest starting fresh. With a few runs of black hole wipe from cwm. Add a run of the gremlin remover for extra cleanliness. Then a flash of the latest ICS rooted stock rom and kernel, for reliability.
Black hole wipe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721057
Gremlin remover, FSC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218713
Uvmb1 ics ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329081
Romman0 said:
Since you have been having issues for a while, I would suggest starting fresh. With a few runs of black hole wipe from cwm. Add a run of the gremlin remover for extra cleanliness. Then a flash of the latest ICS rooted stock rom and kernel, for reliability.
Black hole wipe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721057
Gremlin remover, FSC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218713
Uvmb1 ics ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329081
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I'll definitely go for the rooted version! Does it matter what order in which the ROM and the kernel are flashed? Also, I take it from the name of the download link that I'll have to go through the process of de-bloating this thing again. S'okay, I actually enjoy that part, but I don't want to screw it up since I've not messed with anything newer than GB. Is there a good guide somewhere on the forum for apps that can be dumped safely? I know there was one for GB stock root.
Thanks for the response.
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I'll definitely go for the rooted version! Does it matter what order in which the ROM and the kernel are flashed? Also, I take it from the name of the download link that I'll have to go through the process of de-bloating this thing again. S'okay, I actually enjoy that part, but I don't want to screw it up since I've not messed with anything newer than GB. Is there a good guide somewhere on the forum for apps that can be dumped safely? I know there was one for GB stock root.
Thanks for the response.
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Flash the ROM then the kernel, rewipe cache and davlik, then profit.
The most recent ICS debloating thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183726&highlight=debloat
Romman0 said:
Flash the ROM then the kernel, rewipe cache and davlik, then profit.
The most recent ICS debloating thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183726&highlight=debloat
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A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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All the AOSP ROMs for the Blaze needs GAPPs. And yes. The latest CM10 nightly is stable. And you said CM10 ICS? CM9 is ICS and CM10 is Jellybean.
ionizd said:
A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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The stock roms don't require gapps, but like Wolf said the cm10 jb variants do.
If your willing to use cm10 it is very stable. Just use the latest CM10 nightly and not the old stable version.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922935
The jb gapps 20121011 http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
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All the AOSP ROMs for the Blaze needs GAPPs. And yes. The latest CM10 nightly is stable. And you said CM10 ICS? CM9 is ICS and CM10 is Jellybean.
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Of course. I get a bit confused ever since people started talking about 10.1.
Okay, I went ahead and installed the stock rooted ROM with the stock kernel. Went through the debloating process (mostly, there are some apps that I'm not sure I can do without so they stay for now), and did some customizing. I'm seeing a bit more battery drain. Is this an issue with ICS or do I need to try another kernel or supercharge the phone? I also have this crazy issue with ROM Manager ver. 5.5.3.0. It tells me that there is an updated version of Clockworkmod Recovery, but it freezes when I try to flash from ROM Manager. Also, ROM Manager freezes when I try to reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery. Maybe I need to test a bit more before I mess with it any more.
**EDIT** Well, it looks as if my CWM recovery installation is corrupted. Can I reflash it without messing up my current ROM?
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Okay, I went ahead and installed the stock rooted ROM with the stock kernel. Went through the debloating process (mostly, there are some apps that I'm not sure I can do without so they stay for now), and did some customizing. I'm seeing a bit more battery drain. Is this an issue with ICS or do I need to try another kernel or supercharge the phone? I also have this crazy issue with ROM Manager ver. 5.5.3.0. It tells me that there is an updated version of Clockworkmod Recovery, but it freezes when I try to flash from ROM Manager. Also, ROM Manager freezes when I try to reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery. Maybe I need to test a bit more before I mess with it any more.
**EDIT** Well, it looks as if my CWM recovery installation is corrupted. Can I reflash it without messing up my current ROM?
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Yes, with Odin, in the Dev forum
BTW, stay away from ROM Manager with our device. I've softbricked so many times because of it, it's ridiculous
jparnell8839 said:
Yes, with Odin, in the Dev forum
BTW, stay away from ROM Manager with our device. I've softbricked so many times because of it, it's ridiculous
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Used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011585, it worked well. Still have the battery drain issue, though. : /
ionizd said:
Used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011585, it worked well. Still have the battery drain issue, though. : /
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Since you have it setup, except for battery life. I would make a backup, then try a mod one at a time and see if any help. Also check the battery stats to see if anything of is seen. ICS will use more juice than GB, generally.
I would suggest Nos/direct injection, supercharger, or cross breeder. I would use one and see, then restore and try another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565
Some time later...
I've been using the stock rooted ICS ROM since my last post, debloated and dewizzed of course, with Holo Launcher and T989UVMC6 baseband version flashed. Just over a month has passed, and I have good news!
I FREAKING LOVE THIS PHONE!!!
All of the force close and freezing issues have vanished, the phone's battery lasts almost as long as it did on GB, it's WAY more user friendly, and the phone is as fast as it ever was.
The bad news is that my wife got a GS4 and I lust after it now. : /
Thanks to everyone for their help!
Hey guys, I'm new to the community and I just wanted to post my 1st experience with rooting etc and follow up with a few questions!
A bit of background on my device: I've had my NS for just over 3 years now and I just recently decided (when I bought my Xperia V) that I'd like to play around with it a bit. To my knowledge, my device was one of the 1st in the country and a test dummy, and I purchased it from a friend who was working and testing for Samsung at the time. It was not linked or affiliated to Vodacom (who, if I'm correct, was the only network provider to offer the NS in S. Africa) or any other carrier for that matter. So basically due to the lack of link to any carrier, I've never received any updates or notifications to update, and have been running my stock 2.3.5 for 3 years!
Anyway, my story from yesterday was a huge learning experience. I decided that I wanted to root my NS and possibly try out a new kernel before deciding whether or not I wanted to install a custom ROM. I followed this link and managed to root my NS, install CWM recovery and everything was working pretty well using UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034264
However I think I flashed the wrong kernel (marmite_v9.1) or for some other reason messed up, keep in mind that I was still running my stock GB which the phone came with. Either way, I was stuck on the Google boot screen for more than an hour. I fired up into fastboot and then recovery, but couldn't boot from there (I just realized that I DIDN'T make an actual backup ). To top it off I wiped the device (another great idea) and the device wouldn't boot into fastboot, giving me a "fastboot mode no boot recovery img" message. Somehow through flashing the CWM I managed to get the device into the correct fastboot mode, and eventually after digging for a few hours I managed to find this (stock?) soju GB ROM download, and managed to flash the boot and system images using fastboot, for some reason " fastboot flash userdata data.img" refused to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478820
Anyway, I managed to get back to GB 2.3.5, but get this, after about half an hour on charge, I was given an update to ICS 4.0.4 which I obviously jumped at, and to top it off, I also have JB 4.1.1 available. My NS has finally seen the light of ICS and JB!!
I have a few questions for those who have used ICS and JB though. On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed? With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
Also, which version of marmite would be compatible with ICS? From what I've picked up, marmite 9.1 is compatible with JB, but is it compatible with ICS too, and if not, can someone please point me in the right direction for kernel(s) which work with ICS (not just marmite).
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date? When searching for Oxygen for NS on the forum, the most recent version I find is this which was posted over a year ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605273
And this for Rasbeanjelly (among others): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718
When checking out fitsnugly.euroskank, I don't see anything for the NS. . But maybe I'll consider a shot at the PA and CM ROMs and try them both in a few days
Finally, and this 1 is way over my head, but how does CWM work? If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups? Do I need to partition my sd before wiping, or does CWM do that for me, and if it not, does wiping not touch the backups?
Anyway, thanks in advance, and I hope I haven't asked too many questions which have been answered before. If I have, please bare with me and point me to the correct discussion(s) and I'll go bug some other people.
uwais27 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to the community and I just wanted to post my 1st experience with rooting etc and follow up with a few questions!
A bit of background on my device: I've had my NS for just over 3 years now and I just recently decided (when I bought my Xperia V) that I'd like to play around with it a bit. To my knowledge, my device was one of the 1st in the country and a test dummy, and I purchased it from a friend who was working and testing for Samsung at the time. It was not linked or affiliated to Vodacom (who, if I'm correct, was the only network provider to offer the NS in S. Africa) or any other carrier for that matter. So basically due to the lack of link to any carrier, I've never received any updates or notifications to update, and have been running my stock 2.3.5 for 3 years!
Anyway, my story from yesterday was a huge learning experience. I decided that I wanted to root my NS and possibly try out a new kernel before deciding whether or not I wanted to install a custom ROM. I followed this link and managed to root my NS, install CWM recovery and everything was working pretty well using UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034264
However I think I flashed the wrong kernel (marmite_v9.1) or for some other reason messed up, keep in mind that I was still running my stock GB which the phone came with. Either way, I was stuck on the Google boot screen for more than an hour. I fired up into fastboot and then recovery, but couldn't boot from there (I just realized that I DIDN'T make an actual backup ). To top it off I wiped the device (another great idea) and the device wouldn't boot into fastboot, giving me a "fastboot mode no boot recovery img" message. Somehow through flashing the CWM I managed to get the device into the correct fastboot mode, and eventually after digging for a few hours I managed to find this (stock?) soju GB ROM download, and managed to flash the boot and system images using fastboot, for some reason " fastboot flash userdata data.img" refused to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478820
Anyway, I managed to get back to GB 2.3.5, but get this, after about half an hour on charge, I was given an update to ICS 4.0.4 which I obviously jumped at, and to top it off, I also have JB 4.1.1 available. My NS has finally seen the light of ICS and JB!!
I have a few questions for those who have used ICS and JB though. On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed? With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
Also, which version of marmite would be compatible with ICS? From what I've picked up, marmite 9.1 is compatible with JB, but is it compatible with ICS too, and if not, can someone please point me in the right direction for kernel(s) which work with ICS (not just marmite).
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date? When searching for Oxygen for NS on the forum, the most recent version I find is this which was posted over a year ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605273
And this for Rasbeanjelly (among others): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718
When checking out fitsnugly.euroskank, I don't see anything for the NS. . But maybe I'll consider a shot at the PA and CM ROMs and try them both in a few days
Finally, and this 1 is way over my head, but how does CWM work? If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups? Do I need to partition my sd before wiping, or does CWM do that for me, and if it not, does wiping not touch the backups?
Anyway, thanks in advance, and I hope I haven't asked too many questions which have been answered before. If I have, please bare with me and point me to the correct discussion(s) and I'll go bug some other people.
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Follow the link in my signature for a ROM review... I've heard debates over the best versions for battery life, but JB in my opinion is far superior to ICS... Oxygen is a great ROM, but it won't get more updates and kernels/mods ect.. Are harder to obtain.. It may be a bit challenging to do, but I'd use 4.1.2 JB (follow my chart) or skip to 4.3 JB (Mokee or Slimbean)
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good flashing
uwais27 said:
On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed?
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Speed yes. Battery life no.
uwais27 said:
With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
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There are stutters here and there. You need to overclock to obtain "optimal" ICS and JB performance. JB is smoother than ICS.
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Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date?
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No.
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If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups?
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No.
uwais27 said:
Do I need to partition my sd before wiping,
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No.
uwais27 said:
....does wiping not touch the backups?
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Normally it does not. Unless you select "wipe external sd card"