Just sharing my experience in upgrading to Jelly Bean on the Captivate.
Before you begin:
Before you begin, back up your efs partition.
Some ICS and JB ROMS have issues where they will forget your IMEI. If this is the case you'll need to restore your efs partition. If you don't already have a back up, you'll have to reflash to stock (pain in the butt) so that you can back up your efs so that you can restore it on your shiny new ROM. Without an IMEI, you won't be able to make calls or access wireless networks.
How to Backup/restore EFS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859914
General Process
ICS and Jelly Bean are too big to put the entire rom in /system, so the current practice is to break up the ROM into 2 or more zip files (the ROM itself and a second zip that has essential apps like the Market). Both have to be flashed.
The ROMs have upgraded CWM (Recovery Modules) so you have to flash the ROM twice. The first time installs the CWM, the second time installs the ROM.
My journey
I had been using Mosaic, which is now defunct. When I started seeing posts from Studacris (former Mosaic developer) from several months ago saying "Gingerbread? What is this the stone age?" I decided perhaps is was time to upgrade to ICS.
Of course when I started looking at ICS ROMS, it turns out that now there are Jelly Bean ROMS available as well. Some people say the JB ROMS solve several problems with ICS. Others say the ICS are more stable for now.
Moral of the story. Your Captivate is unique. You won't know which is which until you try them, but my journey may help you.
1. I want to try Slim Bean, but coming from Gingerbread, it's recommended to start on Cynanogen (CM)
2. So I might as well try CM, but do I try CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB)?
3. Ah what the heck, let's go CM10!!!
4. Okay, there's at least four versions. The official, three unofficials of varying "v" releases, the Devil version with datadata (what the heck is datadata?), some guy's custom rolled ROM which he says is likely to brick your phone.
5. Okay, I'll try the latest V8 version with the Devil kernel (note, you should use the version with datadata).
6. Flash goes fine, but now it hangs on black screen with the word Android. After 30 minutes, I figured it really was hanged. Reflashing and rewiping solved that problem.
7. I had a lot of issues with it (see below), so I decided to try Slim ICS.
8. I had other issues with SlimICS (see below), so what the heck, let's try Slim Bean.
9. Slim Bean seems like a keeper to me: Fast; great feautures; decent launcher (vastly better than SlimICS). Only real problem I'm finding is that the Market won't let me install (or even see) Astro Player, which is one of my absolute must have apps. Still trying the dev's workaround.
CM 10 Issues:
Outdated:
1. The home key and back key are reversed.
2. My IMEI was wrong, and restoring EFS didn't help
3. I experienced intermittent lag on the launcher
Update CM10
Everything works fine in CM10 Helly Bean (29.07.2012). Faster than Slim.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783064.
Slim ICS Issues
The first thing the Slim ICS installer does is install its own CWM and in the process it will erase your sdcard (internal memory)
SO....
1. Back up your internal SDCARD before you start
2. To save time, put the zip files on your external card also (the newer CWM will let you install from the external card)
3. I hate the launcher
4. I still couldn't make phone calls.
Slim Bean issues
Works great except for the market issue. Seems to be a problem with the DPI. Still waiting to see if it resolves. Alternatively, I could try to restore my Mosaic version of Astro Player with Titanium back up.
Update:
1. Market issue resolved after about 36 hours of following the fix on the website.
2. Internal card and sdcard were reversed, (/sdcard and /emmc)
Conclusion
I hope my journey helps someone out there.
patrokov said:
Slim Bean issues
Works great except for the market issue. Seems to be a problem with the DPI. Still waiting to see if it resolves. Alternatively, I could try to restore my Mosaic version of Astro Player with Titanium back up.
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Apps still aren't showing up in the market, but the TiBu restored apps work fine.
patrokov said:
Slim ICS Issues
The first thing the Slim ICS installer does is install its own CWM and in the process it will erase your sdcard (internal memory)
SO....
1. Back up your internal SDCARD before you start
2. To save time, put the zip files on your external card also (the newer CWM will let you install from the external card)
3. I hate the launcher
4. I still couldn't make phone calls.
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I initially had that issue of not being able to make any calls. I didn't even have ANY service. Then I went to check which baseband/modem I had and sure enough I found the rom didn't flash a modem. I had to go find one and flash it. After that it worked perfectly.
I also didn't like the new Lightning Launcher so I went back to the old launcher they used - Zeam Launcher.
Ravenmtx said:
I initially had that issue of not being able to make any calls. I didn't even have ANY service. Then I went to check which baseband/modem I had and sure enough I found the rom didn't flash a modem. I had to go find one and flash it. After that it worked perfectly.
I also didn't like the new Lightning Launcher so I went back to the old launcher they used - Zeam Launcher.
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Which modem did you end up flashing?
CM 10 Issues:
1. The home key and back key are reversed.
2. My IMEI was wrong, and restoring EFS didn't help
3. I experienced intermittent lag on the launcher
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1 sounds like you did not flash a proper kernel
2 no imei troubles here
3 NO LAG WHAT SO EVER
CheesyNutz said:
1 sounds like you did not flash a proper kernel
2 no imei troubles here
3 NO LAG WHAT SO EVER
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CM10 comes with the Devil kernel. Flashing another kernel is not part of their installation instructions.
patrokov said:
CM10 comes with the Devil kernel. Flashing another kernel is not part of their installation instructions.
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It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
patrokov said:
Which modem did you end up flashing?
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I tried most of them. I live in the Washington DC area and I found the latest XXJVU worked best for me. You'll just have to find out which one works best for you.
takeoutttt said:
It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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I flashed the CM10 that was to be renamed Helly Bean, following these directions: http://hellybean.site11.com/help.html
(at the time the url was something like cm10.site11.com but the directions are the same.)
takeoutttt said:
It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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Exactly
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CheesyNutz said:
Exactly
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takeoutttt said:
It does, but it depends on who ports or where did you get your CM10 rom. That problem you stated occurs when you flash a i9000 devil kernel for what I know. Jelly bean in cappy needs the devil version that has datadata on its filename either VC or CMC. Visit the Hell Bean Thread.
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This is what I originally flashed and had all the issues with. Is this the wrong one?
http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/divers/devil_jellybean/rom/v8/
Tonight I flashed this one, and everything works perfectly.
http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/divers/devil_jellybean/rom/20120729/
The reason I ask is that I'm trying to find out whether it was my error or some weirdness on my cappy's part.
patrokov said:
I flashed the CM10 that was to be renamed Helly Bean, following these directions: http://hellybean.site11.com/help.html
(at the time the url was something like cm10.site11.com but the directions are the same.)
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I don't personally recommend that page because it was not actually tested yet by porters it means that the file in that site was raw JB. Recently derteufel uploaded a version that is "busted". So I would suggest to pay a visit to the HellBean thread and test a version that has already ported.
I just installed the stable CM9 and I don't really like what I am seeing. The lag on the home screen is unbearable and sometimes the notification bar splits into two when I am pulling it down. I will definitely try a CM10 rom and see how well it functions but I want to use the most stable version, or better yet the one with the least issues that I can use as my day to day rom. I really don't want to go through the trouble of installing every single JB rom.
droyd666 said:
I will definitely try a CM10 rom and see how well it functions but I want to use the most stable version, or better yet the one with the least issues that I can use as my day to day rom. I really don't want to go through the trouble of installing every single JB rom.
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I'd definitely recommend Helly Bean first, in that case.
helly bean all the way. the only problem i have with it is when flashing a new rom (whether its the same to re-flash or upgrading to latest) you lose google now.
I'm running the 8/11 build OF CM10 KANG builds "JELLYBRO" by Makelegs, it's running great! Here's the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803709
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Definitely Helly Bean. Make sure to do a solid master clear and format of your phone first, then flash the latest helly bean. Long time user of slimics then slimbean and just switched over.
Only jellybean rom I've found that works FAST right out of the box, and even better when changing a few settings with devil kernel config. Only rom in which devil config settings actually stick after reboot as well!
VashTS said:
helly bean all the way. the only problem i have with it is when flashing a new rom (whether its the same to re-flash or upgrading to latest) you lose google now.
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Not if you flash the add-on like you are supposed to...
Sent from a jelly bean
So far the latest cm9 nightly is the only ics that has worked well for me. All the jb roms I tried have me a lot of issues (sd card switch, no modem-couldn't even flash a modem, etc) so I haven't built up the confidence to try again.
My problems aren't with ROM behavior, but rather the newer versions of system apps. The phone app on gb had a feature at the end of a phone call to redial or text the person you just called. Miss that. Also the clock app doesn't have the world clock. Not a fan of that one. Over all everything is smooth but a lot of features I had with apex 12 are greatly missed.
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simple man said:
I'm running the 8/11 build OF CM10 KANG builds "JELLYBRO" by Makelegs, it's running great! Here's the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803709
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I also applaud jellybro on my phone and flash each day with new builds as they come. Remeber to have a quick read thro the cherry picks to see what was changed/added/fixed. Runs great!
I do use the devil kernel with it tho - http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/jellybean/Cappy/113/. I use the CMC one.
Matt/eg.
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Hello everyone, just got my skyrocket gs2 (from ios4s) and longstory short,
i was told (by att rep) this phone did ICS....
so now i know it doest for now.......so i decided to root(ok so far) and
all that jazz......
im up to the point where i drop in the rom on extcard to install.
The problem im having is that the ROM im trying to run is
ICS_SMOOTHIE
and its not working properly. When i install (about 5 tries already) all goes good till reboot. I reboot, phone "sammy text" appears 3-6 xs, then eventually i get the ICS intro with all the colors and 1sec after it appears, it freezes and theres like a "Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" sound like a turbine engine like if phone was gonna blow up.
My ? is, whats going wrong? i followed the guide to the letter and did every step(as far as clearin cache etc) multiple times.
if this rom is bad (i also downloaded twice) then are there more ICS roms
out there that r good?
Thanks in advanced.
Sky pics 4.2D-7 ucld2 base or nexus mod zero beta
*#* Google dropbox, its useful.
https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTcwNDE0ODUyOQ *#*
somdow said:
Hello everyone, just got my skyrocket gs2 (from ios4s) and longstory short,
i was told (by att rep) this phone did ICS....
so now i know it doest for now.......so i decided to root(ok so far) and
all that jazz......
im up to the point where i drop in the rom on extcard to install.
The problem im having is that the ROM im trying to run is
ICS_SMOOTHIE
and its not working properly. When i install (about 5 tries already) all goes good till reboot. I reboot, phone "sammy text" appears 3-6 xs, then eventually i get the ICS intro with all the colors and 1sec after it appears, it freezes and theres like a "Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" sound like a turbine engine like if phone was gonna blow up.
My ? is, whats going wrong? i followed the guide to the letter and did every step(as far as clearin cache etc) multiple times.
if this rom is bad (i also downloaded twice) then are there more ICS roms
out there that r good?
Thanks in advanced.
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Hmmm you did install the ICS leak first, correct?... if anything don't do darkside wipe and only clear cache and dalvik cache. Flash zip from sdcard and do factory reset then reboot.
etwonic called
icenight89 said:
Sky pics 4.2D-7 ucld2 base or nexus mod zero beta
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are these true ICS builds or 2.3 skins type ones? Thanks
raider03 said:
Hmmm you did install the ICS leak first, correct?... if anything don't do darkside wipe and only clear cache and dalvik cache. Flash zip from sdcard and do factory reset then reboot.
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from the walk through i had, i installed.....let me find it...
this is the rooting guide i used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526
and this is the ICS rom i went with that a friend linked me to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608506
From the 2nd link, i did everything on it except this part ("Install/Flash ICS leak or flash radio/modem if you are coming from GB." )
not sure what it means since this is supposed to be ICS iim installing...
or???
is that something else?
Thanks in advanced for schoolin a noob.
somdow said:
are these true ICS builds or 2.3 skins type ones? Thanks
from the walk through i had, i installed.....let me find it...
this is the rooting guide i used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526
and this is the ICS rom i went with that a friend linked me to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608506
From the 2nd link, i did everything on it except this part ("Install/Flash ICS leak or flash radio/modem if you are coming from GB." )
not sure what it means since this is supposed to be ICS iim installing...
or???
is that something else?
Thanks in advanced for schoolin a noob.
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OK I see your problem. Looks like the rooting guide you followed is for GB (GB is gingerbread OS) which is before ICS. And let me get you the right guide... u need to flash this first http://rootzwiki.com/topic/23105-i727ucld2/ and that is becuz the rom itself doesn't have what is called the "radio" or "modem" for it to work properly so u need to flash the ics leak that came out first and then you have to flash CWM TOUCH recovery with Odin and root... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24085665 rooting guide for ics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24050465
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man what a problem this has been, i tried again with another oneclick package and STILL no good i mean, i installed it, ICS WAS on it but the home button and the search button werent working plus side swiping from screen to screen was SUPER buggy and slow.
Is there any ONE guide that 100% will get ICS on my phone that you guys know of for Skyrocket SGH-I727???
right now i used ODIN to restore to full stock.
im ready to go and start fresh
any ideas?
and thanks in advanced for the help
I almost guarantee u installed the uclc5 note radio, sounds like all the symptoms.
Flash the ucld2 radio from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617780
And try ics smooth again
somdow said:
From the 2nd link, i did everything on it except this part ("Install/Flash ICS leak or flash radio/modem if you are coming from GB." )
not sure what it means since this is supposed to be ICS iim installing...
or???
is that something else?
Thanks in advanced for schoolin a noob.
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Firstly, man, the devs will kill you if you say they are just skins and not full ROMS..LOL...!
The step above in your post: You should not skip that step if you are coming from Gingerbread.
You flash the leaked ICS modem first thing.
Then you wipe data etc.......although the modem is onboard the ROM.
see mhx's Full Bloat ICS here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570498 FOLLOW THE STEPS AND LINKS FOR MODEM, KERNEL AND ROM in that post.
I have this running on my phone full time. I think that is that absolute safest for any newbie. Once you have ICS STOCK running, then you know you are good.
LMAO at all of you.
Thanks for all you guys help. i gave up and returned the phone lol, got a iphone 4s.......................( booooooooooooooooo ) lol
BUT, my quick question here (before i get stoned ) is lol, can i use these ICS "roms" on my galaxy tab? (im still a supporter) lol...
overall, i have samsung galaxy tab 8.9 and 7.1 and im wondering if i can use the tools you guys have provided on those 2 devices or if i have to go look for specific mods/upgrades for those devices seperately?
lol, thanks in advanced
I am looking to flash my phone to ICS/Jelly Bean and have some questions.
1. Does updating to those ROMs impact multitasking? I wonder because they probably eat up a lot more RAM and when I use browsers, I tend to open a lot of tabs which is heavy on RAM usage
2. Is there a performance difference between JB and ICS on the Cappy?
3. Should I go with a built-in kernel or flash a separate one?
4. My phone has never had its kernel changed, same default filesystem, lag etc. etc., should I do anything extra before flashing?
5. I read on another post on the front page that the JB/ICS ROMs also use the internal SD card, mine is mostly full at the moment, how much space do the new ROMs take up?
Thanks for any help. Been considering flashing for a year but my phone recently got the lock screen button stuck problem and now I'm at a crossroads, either I buy a new phone entirely or maybe try to keep this one for a year until my contract runs out and deal with the lock screen problem.
skomes said:
I am looking to flash my phone to ICS/Jelly Bean and have some questions.
1. Does updating to those ROMs impact multitasking? I wonder because they probably eat up a lot more RAM and when I use browsers, I tend to open a lot of tabs which is heavy on RAM usage
2. Is there a performance difference between JB and ICS on the Cappy?
3. Should I go with a built-in kernel or flash a separate one?
4. My phone has never had its kernel changed, same default filesystem, lag etc. etc., should I do anything extra before flashing?
5. I read on another post on the front page that the JB/ICS ROMs also use the internal SD card, mine is mostly full at the moment, how much space do the new ROMs take up?
Thanks for any help. Been considering flashing for a year but my phone recently got the lock screen button stuck problem and now I'm at a crossroads, either I buy a new phone entirely or maybe try to keep this one for a year until my contract runs out and deal with the lock screen problem.
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1. In my experience multitasking isn't a problem on either but I don't open a lot of tabs in my browser so could be different for you.
2. If you want good clean performance go with ICS. Jelly Bean roms are still more or less in beta.
3. As far as kernels go stick with the kernel built into the from unless it instructs you otherwise. Or if you are looking for some feature that one kernel offers that another doesn't.
4. Read, read, and then read the instructions again for whatever rom you are going to and follow them. Depending on where you are starting from you may have to do different things.
5. I've personally never paid attention to how much it uses the internal SD if at all. I do know that some ICS and Jelly Bean roms have potential to format your SD card during the flash so make sure you do a backup before moving forward.
When you say the lock screen are you talking about the power button? If yes be very careful moving forward with any flashing. I say that because the power button is used to put the phone into recovery. There are other methods to get into recovery but they don't work for everyone.
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m1batt1 said:
1. In my experience multitasking isn't a problem on either but I don't open a lot of tabs in my browser so could be different for you.
2. If you want good clean performance go with ICS. Jelly Bean roms are still more or less in beta.
3. As far as kernels go stick with the kernel built into the from unless it instructs you otherwise. Or if you are looking for some feature that one kernel offers that another doesn't.
4. Read, read, and then read the instructions again for whatever rom you are going to and follow them. Depending on where you are starting from you may have to do different things.
5. I've personally never paid attention to how much it uses the internal SD if at all. I do know that some ICS and Jelly Bean roms have potential to format your SD card during the flash so make sure you do a backup before moving forward.
When you say the lock screen are you talking about the power button? If yes be very careful moving forward with any flashing. I say that because the power button is used to put the phone into recovery. There are other methods to get into recovery but they don't work for everyone.
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I guess that is a good point. My lock screen buttons works but not 100% of the time. Originally the problem hit and it didn't work at all, now it works probably 70% of the time. I didn't remember that I would need it to get into recovery. Maybe I would need to buy a jig, but I guess I should flash now in case it stops working entirely down the line.
I'm also considering buying an S3 but it is quite expensive, at least $620 for it unlocked.
I had wanted to jump into JB because I was looking for decent performance and I don't think I'll be flashing a ton. I've got like 80 apps, tons of home screen stuff etc. that I don't want to restore many times. I just figured if JB is faster, I'd rather go with it.
Thanks for the helping me out.
A jig isn't the best bet because it forces it into download mode. If your button is currently working go for it. Jelly bean roms will eventually be the best thing out there but most of the roms for it haven't been perfected yet.
I have been on everything from 2.1 and up and I can tell you ICS is the best stable thing out there. At least in my opinion.
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skomes said:
I guess that is a good point. My lock screen buttons works but not 100% of the time. Originally the problem hit and it didn't work at all, now it works probably 70% of the time. I didn't remember that I would need it to get into recovery. Maybe I would need to buy a jig, but I guess I should flash now in case it stops working entirely down the line.
I'm also considering buying an S3 but it is quite expensive, at least $620 for it unlocked.
I had wanted to jump into JB because I was looking for decent performance and I don't think I'll be flashing a ton. I've got like 80 apps, tons of home screen stuff etc. that I don't want to restore many times. I just figured if JB is faster, I'd rather go with it.
Thanks for the helping me out.
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I've run a rooted 2.2, a rooted 2.3.5, and a few different ROM's, I find that the easiest to use so far is JB, depending on the ROM itself you may run into a few issues with battery drain, but it's not horrible. Multitasking is fine, but I have OS monitor and a RAM booster for quick mem clearing. The only problems that I've ran into with JB ROM's is that you have make sure the internal memory card is backed up, otherwise you'll lose everything you have on it.
I too have thought about getting a SG3, but after flashing the JB ROM, I think I'm satiated until I absolutely have to upgrade my phone.... meaning I'm probably going to stick with this one for another year or so depending on if I'm able to keep it in decent enough shape. For the CM10 ROM's, they've removed the /datadata folder so that may affect slight performance. I got used to it after flashing a ROM that kept the /datadata folder and noticed that it wasn't giving me enough space to work my usual programs on a consistent basis. But overall I'm content with the ROM I chose and the performance so far.
You can always do adb reboot recovery
Sent from a jelly bean
korockinout13 said:
You can always do adb reboot recovery
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That is true but adb wouldn't help him much if he's stuck in a boot loop. That's when a functioning power button is important.
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skomes said:
I am looking to flash my phone to ICS/Jelly Bean and have some questions.
1. Does updating to those ROMs impact multitasking? I wonder because they probably eat up a lot more RAM and when I use browsers, I tend to open a lot of tabs which is heavy on RAM usage
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According to my expirience, ICS much better in multitasking, comparing with GB. ICS kernel consumes less RAM and more stable.
skomes said:
2. Is there a performance difference between JB and ICS on the Cappy?
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JB for cappy is not stable yet.
skomes said:
3. Should I go with a built-in kernel or flash a separate one?
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If you a going to install CM or AOKP, you defiantly have to install custom kernel. You will also have to install custom baseband (modem). I suppose, same goes to other roms.
skomes said:
4. My phone has never had its kernel changed, same default filesystem, lag etc. etc., should I do anything extra before flashing?
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Yes. RTFM for the rom you are going to flash. You will have to wipe data and cache, and maybe update bootrom.
I am reading stuff, but a lot of guides say 'Coming from GB' BUT they DO NOT say 'coming from stock', so I wasn't sure if those guides were applicable.
Will CM10 wipe my SD card?
Thanks for all the help so far. Going to flash within a couple of days.
I was figuring Helly Bean but most of the JB roms want you to flash CM10 first anway, so I'll try that out.
^
See TRusselo's Flashin Guide for assistance... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19425513&postcount=1
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Tried following that guide.
Heimdall links are all dead.
Opened Odin, downloaded speedmod kernel, figured I'd install it, then download the rom to SD card and go. I was pretty sure speedmod works with stock Captivate.
Flashed speedmod and now my phone is stuck on the Galaxy S boot screen.
So yeah...that sucked.
Now I'm trying to restore stock with Odin but the instructions don't even say how.
Yeah this is why I don't see myself flashing very often...
And that guide needs more detail.
Ok, well I managed to install CM9.
I'm going to stick with it for now because a couple of you guys warned me off of Jelly Bean.
skomes said:
Ok, well I managed to install CM9.
I'm going to stick with it for now because a couple of you guys warned me off of Jelly Bean.
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I'm currently on the 8/13 nightly build of Helly Bean (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783064)
I can say that this particular ROM is ready for use as a daily driver. I've been using it for about a week now and haven't experienced any problems.
With that said, it is important to note that as said before, JB roms are still in beta, including this one. Also it is important to say that I did a completely clean install of this particular ROM (Factory data reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik cache, etc).
Just thought I let ya know that not all JB roms are scary right now. If you're interested in possibly flashing it, here's the official website: http://hellybean.site11.com/index.html
Don't forget to backup your /EFS folder though, recently some people have had problems with their imei being switched, but this is easily avoidable if you take the proper precautions. Other than that, this ROM is great.
Yeah, I actually mentioned Helly Bean on page 1, it was the JB rom I was considering because it was getting rave reviews.
I had a scare last night about my IMEI then I remembered my IMEI doesn't match my box because it was warranty replaced with a refurb for the shutdown issue, lol, I was freaking out but good thing is it made me backup the EFS folder.
Thanks for the support.
I'll give Helly Bean a try in a bit, I hear it is very snappy and I'm excited about that, coming from stock Gingerbread, I really appreciate an OS that doesn't run like crap!
Does Helly Bean wipe your internal SD card? I was searching for that and couldn't find anything, so I think that means no, but wanted to make sure!
skomes said:
Does Helly Bean wipe your internal SD card? I was searching for that and couldn't find anything, so I think that means no, but wanted to make sure!
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As with any custom ROM there is a potential for odd things happening on one phone that doesn't happen on another. With that being said I flashed helly bean and it didn't format my SD card nor has it effected my efs folder like some people have had trouble with.
Your best bet is to backup everything important to you and the operation of your phone prior to flashing just to be safe.
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Backup your efs folder before flashing anything
A few questions before I try Helly Bean, I noted that the kernel is separately available on the download site, am I supposed to flash it separately or is it included with the ROM? The flashing guide doesn't say anything about flashing a kernel.
And I should be able to flash it directly from CM9, correct?
Also this ROM is a lot bigger than CM9, 180MB vs 300MB, does that mean I have far less internal SD space available?
skomes said:
A few questions before I try Helly Bean, I noted that the kernel is separately available on the download site, am I supposed to flash it separately or is it included with the ROM? The flashing guide doesn't say anything about flashing a kernel.
And I should be able to flash it directly from CM9, correct?
Also this ROM is a lot bigger than CM9, 180MB vs 300MB, does that mean I have far less internal SD space available?
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Answering my own questions in case other people need help.
Yes
Yes
No
I installed Helly Bean but for me, it is laggier than CM9 so I am disappointed.
Hello,
I have a general noob question on the custom [ROM] threads.
Do custom ROM's posted go though an alpha, beta, official release stages? I see some [ROM] threads marked with an alpha or beta... while some others are not.
thanks!
U r right, alpha means something major is broken, beta its the "refinig" stage, and final its the complete rom
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demonoid phenomenom said:
U r right, alpha means something major is broken, beta its the "refinig" stage, and final its the complete rom
sent from the gray stuff inside my skull
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Is this process that is true for all ROMs that are posted? I see a few ROMs that don't say alpha or beta. Does it mean they are release grade?
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Is this process that is true for all ROMs that are posted? I see a few ROMs that don't say alpha or beta. Does it mean they are release grade?
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There is no such thing as release grade. Everything should be considered at least developmental in some form or fashion.
The terms of alpha and beta do not mean what most people think they do in here.
Even the ones marked alpha and beta can still be daily drivers, just take a look at the first post of each ROM you are thinking about and see if the bugs will "bug" you like for instance any of the CM based ROMs here have issues with camera and video and few other small bugs.
Any ROM based off of "stock" will have less/no bugs and therefore not marked as beta or alpha, since they are not compiled.
It all depends on your personal needs as to what you are comfortable with and if you can deal with certain things not working right out of the box, or that you might have to make a work around for.
I call mine "alpha" or "beta" depending on bugs and/or how much more work I expect to put into it... and my mood at the time
Jim explained it well... it's all subjective to the dev and the end-user..
Best to just make a good backup, know how to restore it, and slap a new ROM on your phone to try it out for yourself.
That being said, be on the lookout for a gamma version of Numa ... (j/k - it's been a long time since I was back on ICS)
Sent from my paranoid phone's mind
alteredlikeness said:
I call mine "alpha" or "beta" depending on bugs and/or how much more work I expect to put into it... and my mood at the time
Jim explained it well... it's all subjective to the dev and the end-user..
Best to just make a good backup, know how to restore it, and slap a new ROM on your phone to try it out for yourself.
That being said, be on the lookout for a gamma version of Numa ... (j/k - it's been a long time since I was back on ICS)
Sent from my paranoid phone's mind
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Thanks.
Regarding making a good back up, Should I just follow the CWM thread? I found this link in the newbie thread. However, there was little explanation on it's use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19355021&postcount=1
- Does using the CWM recovery to create a back up have any per-requisites? Can I use it on my stock AT&T Atrix2 that is still on GB?
- If I understand correct, this is used to dump an entire image of the phone (firmware, OS, apps, files etc...) to an SD card? And one can later restore back from.
- I am planing flashing the NUMA Rom. If I take a back up using CWM, I assume I can restore everything to they way it was (i.e. back to GB) without risks?
thanks
gcretro said:
Thanks.
Regarding making a good back up, Should I just follow the CWM thread? I found this link in the newbie thread. However, there was little explanation on it's use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19355021&postcount=1
- Does using the CWM recovery to create a back up have any per-requisites? Can I use it on my stock AT&T Atrix2 that is still on GB?
- If I understand correct, this is used to dump an entire image of the phone (firmware, OS, apps, files etc...) to an SD card? And one can later restore back from.
- I am planing flashing the NUMA Rom. If I take a back up using CWM, I assume I can restore everything to they way it was (i.e. back to GB) without risks?
thanks
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First, you need to get ICS on your phone if you want to flash Numa. You must be on 4.0.4 firmware to flash any of the ICS and/or JB based ROMs. The choice is yours on how to get there... please search thoroughly, as it has been covered an insane amount of times.
But, to try and answer your questions:
-Yes, the pre-requisites are that you need to be rooted, and have a custom recovery installed on your phone.. and an sdcard. You can do it on your rooted GB phone, but you cannot restore a GB backup while you are on ICS (for the only way to have the option to return to GB from ICS, you need to look here and here - but some will say there's no reason to go back to GB.. maybe nostalgia )
-A backup will backup your current system, data, and sometimes cache - and it will usually make a new folder, named by date, with a few .tar files inside of a "clockworkmod" folder on your sdcard. And yes, those are what you restore (when restoring, you choose the backup by date/folder name).
-No, you can not restore a GB backup from Numa (see above comments.. again) - also see here for a note on compatibly between different custom recovery options (might be easiest/safest to use BMM, I think you can flash all ROMs with that now..)
So if I understand all that correctly, here is my summary of steps to install Numa. Appreciate if you can correct my steps in-line if I am wrong. [Current state of my phone: Atrix2 on stock GB (AT&T). Only thing I have done is uninstalled/removed unwanted apps.]
Steps:
1. First get on ICS leak-1 following Jim thread. [OR OTA to the official/final ICS. But if I do this, I lose the option to return to GB? or will I loose that ability regardless since Numa itself is based on final ICS OTA?]
2. Install CWM A2 bootstrap recover from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19355021&postcount=1
(No point taking a backup now I suppose since going back to GB isn't an option after Numa.)
3. Then follow the install instructions under the Numa Rom thread.
4. Once I have Numa up & running, I suppose I am limited to putting only those ICS/JB based roms that don't require me to be on leak-1?
On a side note, I hate how they have removed the "contacts" tab, "Only show contacts with phone number" option etc... from the Dialer app in ICS and replaced it with the People thingy . I like GB dialer. Also, In ICS they seem to have removed the data saver option that was available in GB.
Thx
gcretro said:
So if I understand all that correctly, here is my summary of steps to install Numa. Appreciate if you can correct my steps in-line if I am wrong. [Current state of my phone: Atrix2 on stock GB (AT&T). Only thing I have done is uninstalled/removed unwanted apps.]
Steps:
1. First get on ICS leak-1 following Jim thread. [OR OTA to the official/final ICS. But if I do this, I lose the option to return to GB? or will I loose that ability regardless since Numa itself is based on final ICS OTA?]
If you uninstalled any stock apps, the installation of the update will probably fail, and you will either need to fix your system by replacing everything (very carefully).. or just FXZ back to stock GB<--post is a bit out-dated. [Yes, if you ota to final ICS, you can not return to GB ever. It doesn't matter what the ROM you flash is based on, they basically only change your /system partition (and data) - the problem is the new bootloader in final ICS.
Make a full backup of your stock ICS if you want to go back to it (see below - probably best to use BMM to backup)
2. Install CWM A2 bootstrap recover from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19355021&postcount=1
(No point taking a backup now I suppose since going back to GB isn't an option after Numa.)
You could use that, or BootMenu Manager (I heard that it works to flash roms now - it used to not - and I personally have not tested it recently.. so, not sure - and we also have Safestrap, but not sure of the status on that - still a wip, I think). Either way, you will loose it once you flash Numa... you will need to reinstall it to flash a different rom or make a backup (I recommend using BMM to make a backup since it's compatible with the CM10-based recovery, and since it is easy to uninstall)
3. Then follow the install instructions under the Numa Rom thread.
Yup.. maybe a bit outdated also, but wipe data/factory reset, dalvik-cache maybe, then install zip..
4. Once I have Numa up & running, I suppose I am limited to putting only those ICS/JB based roms that don't require me to be on leak-1?
You can put any ICS/JB rom available for our phone, if you wish - or restore the backup you made of stock ICS before installing Numa
On a side note, I hate how they have removed the "contacts" tab, "Only show contacts with phone number" option etc... from the Dialer app in ICS and replaced it with the People thingy . I like GB dialer. Also, In ICS they seem to have removed the data saver option that was available in GB.
There are other ways to get from dialer to contacts in ICS (underneath the favorites tab, scroll down.. or is that only jb?)
Thx
No prob. Good luck.
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Hey everyone,
After trying almost every single ICS ROM available for my O1 P500h, every ROM seems to have the same problem. Although they all run very good, the phone will just hang at random points, but mostly when installing apps. Then requires a hard reset battery pull, or will reset itself after about a minute. Does anybody know of a solution to this? It wouldn't really be that much of a problem if the phone didn't take so long to restart.
I've seen other users report this problem to ROM dev's as well however the problems seemed to be fixed for them by a newer update for the ROM, but even if I use the newest version I still get this problem.
It's not present on CM7, or Jelly Bean (4.1 or 4.2) ROM's as far as the ones that I've tried. I feel like I've tried every single ROM for this phone already. I wanted to move on from CM7 because of it's lack of new-ness compared to ICS and above, and on the other hand Jelly Bean ROM's don't have a lot of internal storage compared to ICS ones, which is a problem for me because I download lots of apps.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
TheCrazyDirectioner said:
Hey everyone,
After trying almost every single ICS ROM available for my O1 P500h, every ROM seems to have the same problem. Although they all run very good, the phone will just hang at random points, but mostly when installing apps. Then requires a hard reset battery pull, or will reset itself after about a minute. Does anybody know of a solution to this? It wouldn't really be that much of a problem if the phone didn't take so long to restart.
I've seen other users report this problem to ROM dev's as well however the problems seemed to be fixed for them by a newer update for the ROM, but even if I use the newest version I still get this problem.
It's not present on CM7, or Jelly Bean (4.1 or 4.2) ROM's as far as the ones that I've tried. I feel like I've tried every single ROM for this phone already. I wanted to move on from CM7 because of it's lack of new-ness compared to ICS and above, and on the other hand Jelly Bean ROM's don't have a lot of internal storage compared to ICS ones, which is a problem for me because I download lots of apps.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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which recovery You are Using & How do you flash the Rom & what rom you flashed try CM9.2.0 By hephappy
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Amitosh said:
which recovery You are Using & How do you flash the Rom & what rom you flashed try CM9.2.0 By hephappy
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I've tried TWRP, CWM 5.0.2.7 and CWM 6.0.2.7. I've been flashing by formatting everything but sdcard (so boot, system, data, cache, etc.) and then installing zip from sdcard. I tried flashing HepHappy's ROM, IcySnap, XperiaICS and Protos9.
TheCrazyDirectioner said:
I've tried TWRP, CWM 5.0.2.7 and CWM 6.0.2.7. I've been flashing by formatting everything but sdcard (so boot, system, data, cache, etc.) and then installing zip from sdcard. I tried flashing HepHappy's ROM, IcySnap, XperiaICS and Protos9.
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Stock kernel..?
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Amitosh said:
Stock kernel..?
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The stock kernels which come with the ROM's, which allow you to overclock the phone to 800-something MHz. I never use the overclock though and keeping it on 600MHz that comes out of the box still has the problem. With GB I'd overclock it to 729 for normal use, and on JB 748 for snappier performance with no bad things happening (well, besides battery life)
TheCrazyDirectioner said:
The stock kernels which come with the ROM's, which allow you to overclock the phone to 800-something MHz. I never use the overclock though and keeping it on 600MHz that comes out of the box still has the problem. With GB I'd overclock it to 729 for normal use, and on JB 748 for snappier performance with no bad things happening (well, besides battery life)
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Do You Run Plenty Of apps at a time Because that cause Reboot..., The kernel candied(Ice) Give me problem like yours. if there is no solution switch to 4.1.2 AOKP it is stable.
Hello, all.
I have a T-Mobile Blaze 4G with rooted stock ROM (Gingerbread), flashed radio version T989UVMC6, manually debloated and dewizzed. I'm running Halo launcher and Busybox Free version 9.6.
Since almost the first day I've had this phone, it would occasionally force close the phone process, usually when hanging up the phone with the Bluetooth radio on and paired with an earpiece. It happened bone stock, rooted, after I changed the modem, whenever. It seemed to happen less often after I changed the modem. The process always starts back up, but the Bluetooth device connection and system sound controls are wonky (unusable) until the phone is rebooted.
The only thing that seems to stop it is running Zepplinrox's V6 Supercharger script. That, however, occasionally freezes the entire system when trying to open certain apps, requiring a reboot. I've run earch after search on this subject, and nobody else seems to have this problem. The only thing I haven't tried is wiping the whole thing and flashing a custom ICS or JB ROM. I tried Dark Knight ver. 8 and hated it pretty much instantly.
I have two questions. Number one; Will flashing a custom ROM fix this situation? I figure that this must be a problem with the crappy stock Samsung ROM. Number two; Which ROM is fully functional and stable? I'd really like to keep this phone dependable. I don't care about the latest and greatest funky cool features that are hit-or-miss at best. I just need dependable, fast and functional.
Since you have been having issues for a while, I would suggest starting fresh. With a few runs of black hole wipe from cwm. Add a run of the gremlin remover for extra cleanliness. Then a flash of the latest ICS rooted stock rom and kernel, for reliability.
Black hole wipe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721057
Gremlin remover, FSC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218713
Uvmb1 ics ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329081
Romman0 said:
Since you have been having issues for a while, I would suggest starting fresh. With a few runs of black hole wipe from cwm. Add a run of the gremlin remover for extra cleanliness. Then a flash of the latest ICS rooted stock rom and kernel, for reliability.
Black hole wipe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721057
Gremlin remover, FSC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218713
Uvmb1 ics ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329081
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I'll definitely go for the rooted version! Does it matter what order in which the ROM and the kernel are flashed? Also, I take it from the name of the download link that I'll have to go through the process of de-bloating this thing again. S'okay, I actually enjoy that part, but I don't want to screw it up since I've not messed with anything newer than GB. Is there a good guide somewhere on the forum for apps that can be dumped safely? I know there was one for GB stock root.
Thanks for the response.
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I'll definitely go for the rooted version! Does it matter what order in which the ROM and the kernel are flashed? Also, I take it from the name of the download link that I'll have to go through the process of de-bloating this thing again. S'okay, I actually enjoy that part, but I don't want to screw it up since I've not messed with anything newer than GB. Is there a good guide somewhere on the forum for apps that can be dumped safely? I know there was one for GB stock root.
Thanks for the response.
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Flash the ROM then the kernel, rewipe cache and davlik, then profit.
The most recent ICS debloating thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183726&highlight=debloat
Romman0 said:
Flash the ROM then the kernel, rewipe cache and davlik, then profit.
The most recent ICS debloating thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183726&highlight=debloat
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A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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All the AOSP ROMs for the Blaze needs GAPPs. And yes. The latest CM10 nightly is stable. And you said CM10 ICS? CM9 is ICS and CM10 is Jellybean.
ionizd said:
A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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The stock roms don't require gapps, but like Wolf said the cm10 jb variants do.
If your willing to use cm10 it is very stable. Just use the latest CM10 nightly and not the old stable version.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922935
The jb gapps 20121011 http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
xWolf13 said:
All the AOSP ROMs for the Blaze needs GAPPs. And yes. The latest CM10 nightly is stable. And you said CM10 ICS? CM9 is ICS and CM10 is Jellybean.
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Of course. I get a bit confused ever since people started talking about 10.1.
Okay, I went ahead and installed the stock rooted ROM with the stock kernel. Went through the debloating process (mostly, there are some apps that I'm not sure I can do without so they stay for now), and did some customizing. I'm seeing a bit more battery drain. Is this an issue with ICS or do I need to try another kernel or supercharge the phone? I also have this crazy issue with ROM Manager ver. 5.5.3.0. It tells me that there is an updated version of Clockworkmod Recovery, but it freezes when I try to flash from ROM Manager. Also, ROM Manager freezes when I try to reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery. Maybe I need to test a bit more before I mess with it any more.
**EDIT** Well, it looks as if my CWM recovery installation is corrupted. Can I reflash it without messing up my current ROM?
ionizd said:
Okay, I went ahead and installed the stock rooted ROM with the stock kernel. Went through the debloating process (mostly, there are some apps that I'm not sure I can do without so they stay for now), and did some customizing. I'm seeing a bit more battery drain. Is this an issue with ICS or do I need to try another kernel or supercharge the phone? I also have this crazy issue with ROM Manager ver. 5.5.3.0. It tells me that there is an updated version of Clockworkmod Recovery, but it freezes when I try to flash from ROM Manager. Also, ROM Manager freezes when I try to reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery. Maybe I need to test a bit more before I mess with it any more.
**EDIT** Well, it looks as if my CWM recovery installation is corrupted. Can I reflash it without messing up my current ROM?
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Yes, with Odin, in the Dev forum
BTW, stay away from ROM Manager with our device. I've softbricked so many times because of it, it's ridiculous
jparnell8839 said:
Yes, with Odin, in the Dev forum
BTW, stay away from ROM Manager with our device. I've softbricked so many times because of it, it's ridiculous
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Used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011585, it worked well. Still have the battery drain issue, though. : /
ionizd said:
Used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011585, it worked well. Still have the battery drain issue, though. : /
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Since you have it setup, except for battery life. I would make a backup, then try a mod one at a time and see if any help. Also check the battery stats to see if anything of is seen. ICS will use more juice than GB, generally.
I would suggest Nos/direct injection, supercharger, or cross breeder. I would use one and see, then restore and try another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565
Some time later...
I've been using the stock rooted ICS ROM since my last post, debloated and dewizzed of course, with Holo Launcher and T989UVMC6 baseband version flashed. Just over a month has passed, and I have good news!
I FREAKING LOVE THIS PHONE!!!
All of the force close and freezing issues have vanished, the phone's battery lasts almost as long as it did on GB, it's WAY more user friendly, and the phone is as fast as it ever was.
The bad news is that my wife got a GS4 and I lust after it now. : /
Thanks to everyone for their help!