MMS over WI-FI? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Would like to start off by saying thanks to all the developers that take their time to make us all happy. Now on to my question.....Is there or will there ever be a option on this stellar device that will allow MMS over WI-FI or even the opportunity to have simple WIFI calling? I did a search for this, but couldn't come up with a definitive answer. Any input would be better than none.
Thanks in advance

You can call over wifi with "wifi-talkie"
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dormankenneth said:
Would like to start off by saying thanks to all the developers that take their time to make us all happy. Now on to my question.....Is there or will there ever be a option on this stellar device that will allow MMS over WI-FI or even the opportunity to have simple WIFI calling? I did a search for this, but couldn't come up with a definitive answer. Any input would be better than none.
Thanks in advance
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[Disregard all of this, thought we were talking about SMS]
I searched all over recently for the exact same thing, except I wanted on where I could keep my current number. I didn't have any luck. There are options like mighty text and desksms that let you send texts through your browser but its still using your carriers service. You could use text+ or other similar options to text over wifi for free but you won't have the same number.
Basically, unless you have imessage (obviously not) or you setup a google voice account and change your main number over to that, or if you're lucky enough to be on verizon which has google talk capabilities, you're lost. And just do a search for voice calls over wifi, there are tons of ways.

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You can call over wifi with "wifi-talkie"
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That is great and all but my main concern is that NONE of my MMS go out nor come in, so I am fishing here for a solution as there was on the SGS2 where you could flash a fix that would use the WIFI connection in order to send out the MMS instead of the NON existent Edge data connection. I am hoping this is making sense. I will look for the post for the SGS2 and update with what I am talking about.
Sorry for any confusion

aHulab said:
I searched all over recently for the exact same thing, except I wanted on where I could keep my current number. I didn't have any luck. There are options like mighty text and desksms that let you send texts through your browser but its still using your carriers service. You could use text+ or other similar options to text over wifi for free but you won't have the same number.
Basically, unless you have imessage (obviously not) or you setup a google voice account and change your main number over to that, or if you're lucky enough to be on verizon which has google talk capabilities, you're lost. And just do a search for voice calls over wifi, there are tons of ways.
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I am able to send text messages because they use the simple GSM technology, but when it comes down to sending those pesky MMS (photo) messages, they WILL NOT go through. I have reset the APN a ton of different ways but nothing seems to work. That is why I am asking for some sort of development on MMS over wifi.

aHulab said:
I searched all over recently for the exact same thing, except I wanted on where I could keep my current number. I didn't have any luck. There are options like mighty text and desksms that let you send texts through your browser but its still using your carriers service. You could use text+ or other similar options to text over wifi for free but you won't have the same number.
Basically, unless you have imessage (obviously not) or you setup a google voice account and change your main number over to that, or if you're lucky enough to be on verizon which has google talk capabilities, you're lost. And just do a search for voice calls over wifi, there are tons of ways.
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UPDATE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690814

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[Q] Texting from a tablet?

So, my dad uses a Droid X2. However, he's been considering ditching his phone for a 7" 3g/4g tablet, and using it as his "phone" with a bluetooth headset.
While this isn't something I'd do, i think its a pretty cool idea. Only thing is, if he were to do this, he'd need to be able to call (skype or similar, no prob) and text.
I thought you could do it with skype, but apparently not...
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA...e-number-when-sending-SMS-messages-from-Skype
I also know there are third party texting services, but i have no experiences wiht them, i have no idea what's good or not.
So, my real question is - is there any way to be able to call and text from an android tablet using the same phone number?
mtmerrick said:
So, my dad uses a Droid X2. However, he's been considering ditching his phone for a 7" 3g/4g tablet, and using it as his "phone" with a bluetooth headset.
While this isn't something I'd do, i think its a pretty cool idea. Only thing is, if he were to do this, he'd need to be able to call (skype or similar, no prob) and text.
I thought you could do it with skype, but apparently not...
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA...e-number-when-sending-SMS-messages-from-Skype
I also know there are third party texting services, but i have no experiences wiht them, i have no idea what's good or not.
So, my real question is - is there any way to be able to call and text from an android tablet using the same phone number?
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I know you can call from Skype as well as send texts. I'm not certain about texting from Skype on the mobile device, though. He could use a combination of What's App for texting and Google Voice for calls.
huh. can you tie the two phone numbers together?
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huh. can you tie the two phone numbers together?
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What do you mean? Can one device have two phone numbers? No, not from a carrier. You can have one number from a wireless carrier, a Google Voice number, and a Skype number all going to the same device, though.
The only way a single device can get two cellular numbers is if it has two SIM slots.
No, no, i was saying, can you make your skype number and your watsapp-assigned number into the same phone number?
so someone can call or text you using the same number.
There is an app called viber that will assign you the same number for calls and texts. It is the best quality as far as the voip calling goes, and it was just updated so you can send picture messages as well.
mtmerrick said:
No, no, i was saying, can you make your skype number and your watsapp-assigned number into the same phone number?
so someone can call or text you using the same number.
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Oh, no. You can't do that. You could just use Google Voice. It does voice and text messages as well as voicemail.
@ lowandbehold - perfect! except for the fact that you (apparently) can't contact anyone who doesn't have viber? That makes it a no-no.
@ cajunflavoredbob - I've heard people say that, but well, look at the attachment, this is voice on my vortex, where is it?
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@ lowandbehold - perfect! except for the fact that you (apparently) can't contact anyone who doesn't have viber? That makes it a no-no.
@ cajunflavoredbob - I've heard people say that, but well, look at the attachment, this is voice on my vortex, where is it?
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You have a dedicated GV number that people can send texts to. I don't personally use GV, but The Google Voice home page specifically lists text messages as being free with the GV app.
*googles*
i see that.... but i can't access it.....
and i'm sure you understand that i can't tell someone to buy something to replace their (crucial for day to day life) cell phone with something that i can't prove will work - in fact i have evidence to the contrary.
So, could someone here with a 3g/4g tab or a wifi only android device confirm that you can, if fact, use the google voice app to send/receive calls and texts using your google voice phone number? that'll make/break the deal right there.
mtmerrick said:
*googles*
i see that.... but i can't access it.....
and i'm sure you understand that i can't tell someone to buy something to replace their (crucial for day to day life) cell phone with something that i can't prove will work - in fact i have evidence to the contrary.
So, could someone here with a 3g/4g tab or a wifi only android device confirm that you can, if fact, use the google voice app to send/receive calls and texts using your google voice phone number? that'll make/break the deal right there.
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Did you log in to your Google Voice account online and choose a number? Can't send a text if you don't pick a phone number first. Once you choose a number from the settings panel in the website, simply log in to your GV app on your device, hit menu, then compose. It literally took me three minutes to send a text from the GV app to myself after getting a number set up.
I think this number will be handy for giving to women that I'd rather not talk to again after a hard night drinking...
I have a Google voice number, that's different from my cell number.
There is no "compose" anywhere on the app. pressing menu brings up Refresh, Search, Labels, Balance, Settings, and More. More brings up Help and Send feedback.
mtmerrick said:
I have a Google voice number, that's different from my cell number.
There is no "compose" anywhere on the app. pressing menu brings up Refresh, Search, Labels, Balance, Settings, and More. More brings up Help and Send feedback.
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Go to Labels > Text. Then hit Menu > Compose.
This might be redundant, but I'm covering all the bases. Keep in mind that when you download the app, Google only gives you a voicemail number. The app alone does not provide a GV number. You don't get the calling/texting number until you log into the website on a PC browser. You then go to the settings icon in the top right side of the page and choose a number for Google Voice. Once that is done, the app will update itself next time you launch it. You might need to go to Menu > Labels > Text (SMS) in order to send a message. Send a message by hitting the menu button while in the inbox and then tapping Compose. Fill in the contact name and message text and hit send.
ah, that's it. i can't used the number that google provided me with, i have to choose a new google voice number. the one google provided me with is no good, apparently. its working now, many thanks.
mtmerrick said:
ah, that's it. i can't used the number that google provided me with, i have to choose a new google voice number. the one google provided me with is no good, apparently. its working now, many thanks.
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Heh. I figured that was it. Almost everyone seems to have trouble with that part. It would be nice if Google explained that part a little bit better, eh? Anyway, that should be everything you're looking for in a replacement app. I know that texting is free, but I'm not sure if or how much calls cost. I only know for sure that international calls cost a bit. It's cheaper than Skype either way.
US to US calls are free with google voice, i know that much
you've been a huge help, any chance you could help with the other half of the crossover?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302560
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[Q] Google Voice on Kit Kat 4.4

Hi everyone. I am planning on getting the Nexus 5 and I am planning to get the $30 a month plan from T-Mobile which allows for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texts, and 5 GB of 4G Data. I was planning on using the Google Talk app with Groove IP or talkatone to call because I already have my Google Voice number and I just want to use my data to call people (In other words, I want to use VOIP so I can call with Google Voice over my data). With the integration of Google voice and hangouts will I still be able to do that? Please someone reply because I am ordering the Nexus 5 in a few days (I am waiting for reviews first).
maxell505 said:
Hi everyone. I am planning on getting the Nexus 5 and I am planning to get the $30 a month plan from T-Mobile which allows for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texts, and 5 GB of 4G Data. I was planning on using the Google Talk app with Groove IP or talkatone to call because I already have my Google Voice number and I just want to use my data to call people (In other words, I want to use VOIP so I can call with Google Voice over my data). With the integration of Google voice and hangouts will I still be able to do that? Please someone reply because I am ordering the Nexus 5 in a few days (I am waiting for reviews first).
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On the same boat, I'm sure you will for now, keep in mind Google has announced they are killing 3rd party access to GV next year so u will have that VoIP capability for so long. I'm on ST now but do plan on porting over to TMO next month and do plan on milking VoIP Talkatone for as long as I can till they completely kill it. Google I believe may fully offer a full VoIP solution which would in fact be great to have.
I don't know about Groove but Talkatone has announced they r working on a new product that mirrors it's current capabilities (sans GV), looking forward to what they r cooking up.
miamidesigner said:
On the same boat, I'm sure you will for now, keep in mind Google has announced they are killing 3rd party access to GV next year so u will have that VoIP capability for so long. I'm on ST now but do plan on porting over to TMO next month and do plan on milking VoIP Talkatone for as long as I can till they completely kill it. Google I believe may fully offer a full VoIP solution which would in fact be great to have.
I don't know about Groove but Talkatone has announced they r working on a new product that mirrors it's current capabilities (sans GV), looking forward to what they r cooking up.
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So if Google offers full VOIP, then there is no need for third party apps right? And you are saying that Talkatone is working on something just like Google Voice?? But the only thing is, with talkatone, you will most likely get another number, and then you have to go through the process of switching numbers like telling everybody about your new number and making sure htye change it and........its just a big hassle. I hope Google extends the deadline or I might have to switch to the $45 plan from straight talk. How is the HSPA+ on their network? Is it close to 4G. I am fine if it is not as fast as 4G but I want it more faster than 3G for sure and I know it is that. I am still debating on using Google Voice still or just switching to Straight Talk.
The Walmart plan does not allow for call forwarding or conditional forwarding so you will never be able to setup Google voice to be your voice mail system... Just a heads up..
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maxell505 said:
So if Google offers full VOIP, then there is no need for third party apps right? And you are saying that Talkatone is working on something just like Google Voice?? But the only thing is, with talkatone, you will most likely get another number, and then you have to go through the process of switching numbers like telling everybody about your new number and making sure htye change it and........its just a big hassle. I hope Google extends the deadline or I might have to switch to the $45 plan from straight talk. How is the HSPA+ on their network? Is it close to 4G. I am fine if it is not as fast as 4G but I want it more faster than 3G for sure and I know it is that. I am still debating on using Google Voice still or just switching to Straight Talk.
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Correct, no more 3rd party apps needed. No idea on how/what Talkatone would offer but my guess is yes a new # would be needed. Gotta wait and see.
On ST I actually have LTE, pre LTE days my internet was horrible, since they launched LTE everything has been really smooth, haven't experienced any throttling yet *knock on wood*. Honestly I'm happy with ST but wouldn't mind saving the extra 15 bucks a month and getting 2x the limit. My only worry is service, here in Miami I have heard a lot of dead spots for TMO, whereas ATT I was with them for like 15 yrs and never have a problem. I'm still gonna try TMO, benefits of having my main number on GV I could cancel and just get any new carrier # whenever I want.
miamidesigner said:
Correct, no more 3rd party apps needed. No idea on how/what Talkatone would offer but my guess is yes a new # would be needed. Gotta wait and see.
On ST I actually have LTE, pre LTE days my internet was horrible, since they launched LTE everything has been really smooth, haven't experienced any throttling yet *knock on wood*. Honestly I'm happy with ST but wouldn't mind saving the extra 15 bucks a month and getting 2x the limit. My only worry is service, here in Miami I have heard a lot of dead spots for TMO, whereas ATT I was with them for like 15 yrs and never have a problem. I'm still gonna try TMO, benefits of having my main number on GV I could cancel and just get any new carrier # whenever I want.
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Oh ok I didn't know ST ever switched. I heard that ST throttles after 2.5 GB of data which really, isn't all that bad. I think I am going to stick with TMO for right now or atleast until Google stops their third-party app service.
maconsultant said:
The Walmart plan does not allow for call forwarding or conditional forwarding so you will never be able to setup Google voice to be your voice mail system... Just a heads up..
Sent from another Nexus..
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Google Voice has its own voicemail service that will notifiy you of a voicemail via the Google Voice app or through the GV web interface. When I was on Straight Talk I checked all my voicemails through the Google Voice app.
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stelv said:
Google Voice has its own voicemail service that will notifiy you of a voicemail via the Google Voice app or through the GV web interface. When I was on Straight Talk I checked all my voicemails through the Google Voice app.
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But when you setup the google voice app it tries to set that option (conditional call forwarding to google voice's voicemail).. Which it cant as the Walmart plan does not support this feature, But yes you can do it through the app thats correct, but i rather full integration.. But if you don't have the finances or the credit to get a post paid account (THE ONLY PLANS THAT SUPPORTS THE FORWARDING FEATURE) and you need to opt for the Walmart plan i guess you have to do what you have to do.
Either way gets it done...
Yea it's all good to me either way. You will still get a GV Voicemail notification. There are some downsides to pre paid. I had straight talk for a year and then went to att. But kind of regret having a contract now. I am going to try aio wireless before too long here.
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I am planning on using a tablet sim card and using it in addition to a Verizon dumb phone. T-Mobile has terrible coverage in my area, and I need to make calls.
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stelv said:
Yea it's all good to me either way. You will still get a GV Voicemail notification. There are some downsides to pre paid. I had straight talk for a year and then went to att. But kind of regret having a contract now. I am going to try aio wireless before too long here.
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So if i just go to the ST website and get a sim card from there, can i transfer my google number to a straight talk number? Like is that possible to do?
maxell505 said:
So if i just go to the ST website and get a sim card from there, can i transfer my google number to a straight talk number? Like is that possible to do?
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You don't transfer your Google Voice number to Straight Talk. Straight Talk will give you a Straight Talk number. Then you download the Google Voice app. When you first open the Google Voice app on your android device it will take you through configuration. I set mine to " use Google voice to make all calls" and I don't even use my carriers number at all.
So you will have 2 phone numbers. You give out which ever one you want to. The GV number will work only if you have the Google Voice app installed. You can also send/receive text only texts and receive voicemail via the Google Voice app. Google Voice also works on a desktop computer through its web interface. You can also block numbers via Google Voice.
stelv said:
You don't transfer your Google Voice number to Straight Talk. Straight Talk will give you a Straight Talk number. Then you download the Google Voice app. When you first open the Google Voice app on your android device it will take you through configuration. I set mine to " use Google voice to make all calls" and I don't even use my carriers number at all.
So you will have 2 phone numbers. You give out which ever one you want to. The GV number will work only if you have the Google Voice app installed. You can also send/receive text only texts and receive voicemail via the Google Voice app. Google Voice also works on a desktop computer through its web interface. You can also block numbers via Google Voice.
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Ok, so after I do that, I can just install an app likek Groove IP or Talkatone and then just make and recieve calls too right? I am just going to give out my Google Voice number to everyone so when they call me, I will receive the call through Google voice on the native dialer app on Android or am I going to receive the call through an app like Groove IP or Talkatone
maxell505 said:
Ok, so after I do that, I can just install an app likek Groove IP or Talkatone and then just make and recieve calls too right? I am just going to give out my Google Voice number to everyone so when they call me, I will receive the call through Google voice on the native dialer app on Android or am I going to receive the call through an app like Groove IP or Talkatone
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It gets kind of tricky when you want to use a VoIP like GrooveIP to make and receive calls over data/wifi instead of your carriers phone service. You can set your phone to natively use your Google Voice number to make/receive all calls, but it will use your plans minutes instead of data if you do not have GrooveIp or Talkatone setup correctly (it will come through your native android dialer and use your tmobile minutes by default).
I have attached a link for a guide that was originally written in the Galaxy Nexus forum. It has a guide to Google Voice + VoIP calling. I have used GrooveIP on my wifi only tablet to make calls over wifi, but have never tried bypassing carrier phone service on my cellphone using GrooveIP. It can be done though.
*Also be aware Google has said they will eventually disable access to Google Voice from third party apps so this may mess things up in the future. Have a backup plan ready just incase they do this. We may be only abel to ue the Hangouts app in the future. Also you cannot send or receive pic and vid messages via Google Voice, just text only messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646755
stelv said:
It gets kind of tricky when you want to use a VoIP like GrooveIP to make and receive calls over data/wifi instead of your carriers phone service. You can set your phone to natively use your Google Voice number to make/receive all calls, but it will use your plans minutes instead of data if you do not have GrooveIp or Talkatone setup correctly (it will come through your native android dialer and use your tmobile minutes by default).
I have attached a link for a guide that was originally written in the Galaxy Nexus forum. It has a guide to Google Voice + VoIP calling. I have used GrooveIP on my wifi only tablet to make calls over wifi, but have never tried bypassing carrier phone service on my cellphone using GrooveIP. It can be done though.
*Also be aware Google has said they will eventually disable access to Google Voice from third party apps so this may mess things up in the future. Have a backup plan ready just incase they do this. Also you cannot send or receive pic and vid messages via Google Voice, just text only messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646755
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ok so I cannot send and recieve pic or vid messages but I can just use another app like GoSMS or some other apps that use your regular phone number(in my case, my google voice number) to send and recieve text messages right? I am thinking that i should not get a plan first when I get my nexus. Like set it up and everything by using wifi to send and receive calls and texts and then later on I will get a plan and just forward my number that i get once i get my plan to my google voice number.
maxell505 said:
ok so I cannot send and recieve pic or vid messages but I can just use another app like GoSMS or some other apps that use your regular phone number(in my case, my google voice number) to send and recieve text messages right? I am thinking that i should not get a plan first when I get my nexus. Like set it up and everything by using wifi to send and receive calls and texts and then later on I will get a plan and just forward my number that i get once i get my plan to my google voice number.
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You will have to use a carriers phone number to send pic and vid messages. Google Voice's servers cannot handle that type of data, so you cannot send/receive pic/vid messages with your GV number at all. A Google Voice number is only good for makings calls and TXT, not SMS or MMS.
If you are going to use your Nexus on wifi only with no plan, you can use GrooveIP to make/receive calls over wifi. You will need a strong data connection though. Its best to stand near the router. You will need a Google Voice number to use with GrooveIP over wifi. In summary you will need: Google Voice number + Google Voice app + GrooveIP or Talkatone + strong wifi signal
You can also use the Hangouts App to text and video call people over wifi. The people you are contacting will need a gmail account and have the hangouts app open and running on their phone or computer.
stelv said:
You will have to use a carriers phone number to send pic and vid messages. Google Voice's servers cannot handle that type of data, so you cannot send/receive pic/vid messages with your GV number at all. A Google Voice number is only good for makings calls and TXT, not SMS or MMS.
If you are going to use your Nexus on wifi only with no plan, you can use GrooveIP to make/receive calls over wifi. You will need a strong data connection though. Its best to stand near the router. You will need a Google Voice number to use with GrooveIP over wifi. In summary you will need: Google Voice number + Google Voice app + GrooveIP or Talkatone + strong wifi signal
You can also use the Hangouts App to text and video call people over wifi. The people you are contacting will need a gmail account and have the hangouts app open and running on their phone or computer.
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Ok thank you, that really helped. I will probably end up using talkatone just because it has good call quality even on 3G. At least that was was it said on that article you linked. Now on the talkatone website( http://www.talkatone.com/ ), It shows an iPhone that has talkatone and he sent a picture message to someone else and he also received a video message from someone else. Does this mean that you can send mms through talkatone only.
maxell505 said:
Ok thank you, that really helped. I will probably end up using talkatone just because it has good call quality even on 3G. At least that was was it said on that article you linked. Now on the talkatone website( http://www.talkatone.com/ ), It shows an iPhone that has talkatone and he sent a picture message to someone else and he also received a video message from someone else. Does this mean that you can send mms through talkatone only.
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I don't know much about talkatone I have never used it. As far as I know the only carrier or data provider that has had success with pic messages via a Google Voice number is Sprint. Doesn't work anywhere else.
Other people using the talkatone app may be able to receive pic/vid messages through talkatone but not if you send via a GV number. Possibly if you are sending via some other type of method or account. Not totally sure.
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I don't know much about talkatone I have never used it. As far as I know the only carrier or data provider that has had success with pic messages via a Google Voice number is Sprint. Doesn't work anywhere else.
Other people using the talkatone app may be able to receive pic/vid messages through talkatone but not if you send via a GV number. Possibly if you are sending via some other type of method or account. Not totally sure.
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Ok thank you. Can you please close this thread because I do not know how to do it.
Glad to help. I think a moderator has to close a thread. But it's OK if it stays open. Someone else may need this info in the future.
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Hangouts Google Voice Integration! Nexus 5 WiFi calls [INFO]]

Hello Everyone,
Since everyone is so hyped about the new Voice integration with hangouts and more specifically, we finally have the ability to make outgoing call without using 3rd party programs, still no MMS with the google voice number but the outgoing calling alone is awesome.
Anyway, since this is XDA and the new functionality gives XDA's plenty of money saving ideas I'm certain of that, here goes.
HANGOUTS & GOOGLE VOICE = 1.6 MB PER HOUR OF CALLING
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That is an amazingly low amount of data! I ran this test making a 3 minutes phone using my nexus 5 on LTE. It's by far not a scientific test but a very good estimate of how much data you can save making calls with GOOGLE VOICE THRU HANGOUTS. I'm sure you 30$ a month 5GB t-mobile people can put this to good use, I know I will! (Goodbye stupid deadzones in Brooklyn College ) Finally us Nexus 5 owners have a more legitimate way of making WiFi calls since T-mobile ditched us on that one. I'm plenty excited about all of this! What do you guys think? How will you be using the new outgoing calls feature?
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The updated hangouts apk is below in case you didn't get the update yet like me. enjoy!​
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
WisdomWolf said:
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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Same, although my rom still has CM Voice+ and it's still handling the integration quite well. I currently use Groove Forwarder from the play store to switch my GV forwarding based on location. I'm very curious if it will still be functional once I'm integrated, as currently, I don't see any options in the new Hangouts app to determine what number rings. If it stays this way, I'll end up getting double rings (dialer & Hangouts) when someone calls my GV number.
adrman said:
Same, although my rom still has CM Voice+ and it's still handling the integration quite well. I currently use Groove Forwarder from the play store to switch my GV forwarding based on location. I'm very curious if it will still be functional once I'm integrated, as currently, I don't see any options in the new Hangouts app to determine what number rings. If it stays this way, I'll end up getting double rings (dialer & Hangouts) when someone calls my GV number.
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I have the same double ring problem. I'd like to see an option to only accept/make Hangouts calls over wifi because I use Llama to disable the cell radio when on wifi at home (because the cell signal is very poor and it drains my battery very fast and also because I have a Ting "metered" plan and trying to keep usage as low as possible -- basically on cell only when away from home, wifi otherwise). I currently use the older version of GrooveIP, but was hoping to be able to move to Hangouts.
WisdomWolf said:
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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Me too, I keep thinking that maybe I did something wrong and I'm being left out, but Google's just rolling the server-side changes out slowly, I've read. Such anxiety
This actually works for every Android device that can use hangouts/google voice too. Right now I have it on my Galaxy Player, and it works great. I'm glad that Google finally integrated google voice, because it makes things a lot easier lol. I'm surprised that this isn't getting a lot of news.
We still need the GV app to send texts, right? Or am I missing something and it's possible to text using your GV number from the Hangouts app?
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We still need the GV app to send texts, right? Or am I missing something and it's possible to text using your GV number from the Hangouts app?
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I'm checking on it right now, but it seems that you don't need the GV app anymore. You should be able to text using your GV number in hangouts. I'm setting mine up right now.
Here's the topic that google created to set up GV with Hangouts. I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/6023920?hl=en&ref_topic=3187124
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I'm checking on it right now, but it seems that you don't need the GV app anymore. You should be able to text using your GV number in hangouts. I'm setting mine up right now.
Here's the topic that google created to set up GV with Hangouts. I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/6023920?hl=en&ref_topic=3187124
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Ah, thanks. They don't make it easy to find. Same deal with the Hangouts Dialer, jumping through many hoops to set it all up. I guess they don't want to piss off the carriers just yet.
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I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
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By disconnect do you mean sign or and then sign back in?
OK, more help needed: how do I switch the number and SMS is sent from when starting a new conversation? I like the "smart reply" option, but sometimes I want to send from the GV number, other times from my cell number (in particular for MMS).
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By disconnect do you mean sign or and then sign back in?
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By disconnect I mean reverting back to the original chat in gmail, then going back to hangouts.
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Ah, thanks. They don't make it easy to find. Same deal with the Hangouts Dialer, jumping through many hoops to set it all up. I guess they don't want to piss off the carriers just yet.
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Nope also to answer your Google voice question further when trying to access or send message you get this screen. However, I had to unchecked merge messages to even get it to send with hangouts lol.
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By disconnect I mean reverting back to the original chat in gmail, then going back to hangouts.
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That did the trick!
hangout issue
Hey has anyone had the issue where hangout calls connects, but you get can't hear anything. Basically only one end of the line gets sound for some reason. each time i had to hang up and try again.
I haven't on the 2 test calls I made. Any suspicions as to why its happening?
Whats your OS or ROM, Phone, Network, what was your coverage like. Wifi or mobile network.
The more info the better
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Not working for me, still using cell minutes when making calls
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Edit: I think I figured it out, if I use the phone dialer it asks if I want to use Google voice, it uses minutes, if I skip it and use the hangouts dialer no minutes. So do I need GV installed at all?
Don't need Voicemail on GV, I can use T-Mobile Visual Voicemail.
in order to receive wifi calls there is box to check in settings plus
in google voice settings [web page] I had to stop google from forwarding my google # to my phone [uncheck nexus 5]
this keeps google from forwarding the call twice and keeps the native dialer blocking the hangouts dialer
I'm on wifi 95% of the time so this should lower my $12 Ting bill to $9 on a normal month.
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in order to receive wifi calls there is box to check in settings plus
in google voice settings [web page] I had to stop google from forwarding my google # to my phone [uncheck nexus 5]
this keeps google from forwarding the call twice and keeps the native dialer blocking the hangouts dialer
I'm on wifi 95% of the time so this should lower my $12 Ting bill to $9 on a normal month.
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How is Ting. My friend recommended me to get it, but I don't know it I want that or Republic Wireless lo. Also did you figure out how to send SMS with Hangouts via Google Voice?
Theres actually a setting telling you to activate the sms thru hangouts.
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[Q] Porting T-Mobile Number to Google Voice?

Hi guys, after the Hangouts Google Voice merge, I've been highly tempted to port my number over to Google Voice. The main thing that attracts my attention is how all my texts will be stored on the cloud so I won't have to constantly backup and restore when flashing different ROMs (approx. once a week). What do you guys think on this? I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee and that if I send an MMS picture, it shows up as a link on the other side. Also, I tried calling using my current GVoice number, and my mom said its not as clear. Do you guys think it'll be worth it?
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Hi guys, after the Hangouts Google Voice merge, I've been highly tempted to port my number over to Google Voice. The main thing that attracts my attention is how all my texts will be stored on the cloud so I won't have to constantly backup and restore when flashing different ROMs (approx. once a week). What do you guys think on this? I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee and that if I send an MMS picture, it shows up as a link on the other side. Also, I tried calling using my current GVoice number, and my mom said its not as clear. Do you guys think it'll be worth it?
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As far as the call quality of using the Hangouts Dialer/your Google Voice number vs. regular calls- at least over WiFi I noticed a difference, but not so much that it interfered with the call or understanding the person on the other end, for me. Haven't tried it over normal LTE data at this point.
I've used Google Voice for a long time (since my Evo 4G days, even a little before that) and having all my texts backed up was one of the big draws. I don't use Google+ Hangouts, so I also can't speak to text backups there but if your experience is that your texts are there and waiting for you right now, I can't imagine that would change.
So, in my estimation, it kind of depends on what you want more: backups vs. call quality. I don't make a lot of calls, so I'm more on the side of texting and having a single number that I can then use for multiple lines, but that's just me. Hope some of this helped!
I find the call quality to be good, the big issue is you don't get HD Voice. So if your mom is on T-Mobile with an HD Voice capable phone you will get HD Voice when making a regular T-Mobile call with your Nexus 5, while the Hangouts calling is just a standard voice quality level. I had no issue using it over LTE, but I haven't tried 3G. I would think an Edge area would definitely give you a problem.
Keep in mind that you can always continue to use the call forwarding feature rather than the VOIP functionality. This won't solve the issue of no HD voice, but it will work in Edge areas without issue.
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As far as the call quality of using the Hangouts Dialer/your Google Voice number vs. regular calls- at least over WiFi I noticed a difference, but not so much that it interfered with the call or understanding the person on the other end, for me. Haven't tried it over normal LTE data at this point.
I've used Google Voice for a long time (since my Evo 4G days, even a little before that) and having all my texts backed up was one of the big draws. I don't use Google+ Hangouts, so I also can't speak to text backups there but if your experience is that your texts are there and waiting for you right now, I can't imagine that would change.
So, in my estimation, it kind of depends on what you want more: backups vs. call quality. I don't make a lot of calls, so I'm more on the side of texting and having a single number that I can then use for multiple lines, but that's just me. Hope some of this helped!
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I find the call quality to be good, the big issue is you don't get HD Voice. So if your mom is on T-Mobile with an HD Voice capable phone you will get HD Voice when making a regular T-Mobile call with your Nexus 5, while the Hangouts calling is just a standard voice quality level. I had no issue using it over LTE, but I haven't tried 3G. I would think an Edge area would definitely give you a problem.
Keep in mind that you can always continue to use the call forwarding feature rather than the VOIP functionality. This won't solve the issue of no HD voice, but it will work in Edge areas without issue.
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Thanks for the replies! Is HD voice a big difference compared to normal? My mom had a Moto X FYI. Can you explain more on call forwarding? I don't know how it works or what it is. Does it forward a call from your GVoice number to your regular Sim card number? If that's the case, will there be a delay?
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I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee ...
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You can avoid $20 fee by porting to Ring.to then have Ring.to forward to Google Voice totally free of charge. :highfive:
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Thanks for the replies! Is HD voice a big difference compared to normal? My mom had a Moto X FYI. Can you explain more on call forwarding? I don't know how it works or what it is. Does it forward a call from your GVoice number to your regular Sim card number? If that's the case, will there be a delay?
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Yeah, you can set it up to forward calls to your SIM number instead of using VoIP. I imagine there is a slight delay for the call to forward but there's no delay while speaking. The call gets forwarded so it is actually handed off from Google Voice to your carrier, just like when your phone forwards to voicemail.
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Hi guys, after the Hangouts Google Voice merge, I've been highly tempted to port my number over to Google Voice. The main thing that attracts my attention is how all my texts will be stored on the cloud so I won't have to constantly backup and restore when flashing different ROMs (approx. once a week). What do you guys think on this? I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee and that if I send an MMS picture, it shows up as a link on the other side. Also, I tried calling using my current GVoice number, and my mom said its not as clear. Do you guys think it'll be worth it?
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I would like to add a few things.
First off, remember that if you opt in for the Hangouts and Google Voice integration, the text messages will be stored in the Hangouts application, and not Google Voice. It is a plus to have the messages backed up, but I wouldn't say that was the winner for me.
The winner for me is being able to send SMS messages from the Hangouts extension for Chrome Browser on my work PC, or any other PC/Laptop for that matter. Everything is consolidated now in one app. Whereas before I would use the Google Voice extension to text, Hangouts is just nicer to use. More functional. Better user interface.
I ported my number a while back from Sprint, and I'm a Tmo subscriber as well. A few words of caution: the biggest drawback is MMS, or lack thereof. For me, I don't really use it. I send all pics and MMS content through Hangouts already. What bugs me is when people send me MMS content to my Google Voice number, and I'm never aware of it, since I can't receive it. (I can get MMS from other Tmo subscribers though).
Since I travel a lot internationally, it's nice being able to use your same number for texting and calling over data. If you make your Google Voice number your primary number, that's another perk.
I use Skype as my main calling app. (I have a yearly subscription with them to make unlimited calls to landlines and mobile in the U.S.). When I need to, I make calls through Tmo. As stated before, don't expect to be able to make calls over data if you're on EDGE. Even 3G might be skeptical. If you've got 1Mbps down/up speeds, you'll be all right. Use speedtest to check out your data speeds where you plan on making calls over data.
Overall I would recommend it. I didn't mind the $20 bucks. If you're on a budget, look into alternative means of porting, as stated above. Any other questions, ask away.
jnbanda said:
I would like to add a few things.
First off, remember that if you opt in for the Hangouts and Google Voice integration, the text messages will be stored in the Hangouts application, and not Google Voice. It is a plus to have the messages backed up, but I wouldn't say that was the winner for me.
The winner for me is being able to send SMS messages from the Hangouts extension for Chrome Browser on my work PC, or any other PC/Laptop for that matter. Everything is consolidated now in one app. Whereas before I would use the Google Voice extension to text, Hangouts is just nicer to use. More functional. Better user interface.
I ported my number a while back from Sprint, and I'm a Tmo subscriber as well. A few words of caution: the biggest drawback is MMS, or lack thereof. For me, I don't really use it. I send all pics and MMS content through Hangouts already. What bugs me is when people send me MMS content to my Google Voice number, and I'm never aware of it, since I can't receive it. (I can get MMS from other Tmo subscribers though).
Since I travel a lot internationally, it's nice being able to use your same number for texting and calling over data. If you make your Google Voice number your primary number, that's another perk.
I use Skype as my main calling app. (I have a yearly subscription with them to make unlimited calls to landlines and mobile in the U.S.). When I need to, I make calls through Tmo. As stated before, don't expect to be able to make calls over data if you're on EDGE. Even 3G might be skeptical. If you've got 1Mbps down/up speeds, you'll be all right. Use speedtest to check out your data speeds where you plan on making calls over data.
Overall I would recommend it. I didn't mind the $20 bucks. If you're on a budget, look into alternative means of porting, as stated above. Any other questions, ask away.
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OK thanks! So one question regarding SMS, I already opted in for them to show up on hangouts. I'm pretty sure that even after I factory reset my phone, my texts will still be I'm hangouts after I log in and everything. Is that correct? My texts won't disappear after a full wipe or anything? (Texts are stored on the cloud rather than physically on the device right?)
Yeah I love that feature of being able to text from a computer also. Its very convenient.
Hopefully MMS gets fixed soon, I don't use it much but every once in a while, my friend sends me pictures.
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OK thanks! So one question regarding SMS, I already opted in for them to show up on hangouts. I'm pretty sure that even after I factory reset my phone, my texts will still be I'm hangouts after I log in and everything. Is that correct? My texts won't disappear after a full wipe or anything? (Texts are stored on the cloud rather than physically on the device right?)
Yeah I love that feature of being able to text from a computer also. Its very convenient.
Hopefully MMS gets fixed soon, I don't use it much but every once in a while, my friend sends me pictures.
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I believe, but I am not sure, that SMS are only stored in cloud storage if they are from/to your Google Voice number. I think that texts that are sent to your carrier number are not backed up.
If you port your current telephone # to GV, T-Mobile will automatically cancel your current account. It does not automatically reassign a random number to your account once you port your mobile # out.
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If you port your current telephone # to GV, T-Mobile will automatically cancel your current account. It does not automatically reassign a random number to your account once you port your mobile # out.
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Can we just go to a store and do it there? Like port the # to GV, and then have them assign another one to my phone?

Solution for S5 simultaneous talk and surf issue

This is for the S5, but I assume it would work on the galaxy note 4 and all other devices with this issue.
Hi all, I wanted to let you know that there is a very easy work around for this limitation. It is supplied by Google Inc through the Hangouts Dialer app. I'm not sure whether or not you need Hangouts installed to use it, but it allows you to make calls via the data network and still use the network to browse the web, etc. I have tried it several times at home with WiFi off and it works flawlessly so far.
It's sad that Sprint didn't find a way to bypass this limitation on their own, or at least inform customers, but this is an easy and seamless solution by Google.
I put the icon right next to my default phone icon for future use.
Additionally, I can not believe that Sprint is not aware of this work around. I spoke to a few different representatives today, and none were able to offer a solution.
I found this on my own searching the play store. Hope this helps!!
I posted this in the community forum on sprint.com. Hopefully they will figure out a way to make it work......
Sprint:
As I have stated in other posts, the "Hangouts Dialer" app allows you to make calls over the data connection without WiFi and still be able to surf the web. (Please note, this app is different from "Hangouts", it is "Hangouts Dialer" by Google Inc.)
This works on my S5, and it should work on any device that can install the app.
This has not been suggested by any of the Sprint Agents in any of the posts I have seen. I have seen suggestions to use Skype and other VOIPs, but there are some charges and they require a WiFi signal.
This is very confusing because if the app is able to make calls using the data network, then why doesn't Sprint set up the default dialer to do the same thing if there is no WiFi connection? I do understand that this would increase the load on the data network, but you are losing customers at a significant rate due to this issue. Anybody who needs to be on the phone and confirm appts, emails, etc with the person/client/coworker they are on the phone with is not able to do so. This is a monumental step backwards that is inexcusable with todays technology. Waiting for VOLTE is not a solution, as the time frame on this is not guaranteed.
Please consider my suggestion for the default dialer app. Google already has it functional in the Hangouts Dialer app, so there is no reason it can't be done.
Thanks!
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This is for the S5, but I assume it would work on the galaxy note 4 and all other devices with this issue.
Hi all, I wanted to let you know that there is a very easy work around for this limitation. It is supplied by Google Inc through the Hangouts Dialer app. I'm not sure whether or not you need Hangouts installed to use it, but it allows you to make calls via the data network and still use the network to browse the web, etc. I have tried it several times at home with WiFi off and it works flawlessly so far.
It's sad that Sprint didn't find a way to bypass this limitation on their own, or at least inform customers, but this is an easy and seamless solution by Google.
I put the icon right next to my default phone icon for future use.
Additionally, I can not believe that Sprint is not aware of this work around. I spoke to a few different representatives today, and none were able to offer a solution.
I found this on my own searching the play store. Hope this helps!!
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I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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Ramer,
Thank you for responding to my post. I need to point out that you have two apps confused. As above, the app is not "Hangouts". It is "Hangouts Dialer". This is a dialer app. It can call landlines, cell phones, etc. No need for call to go to somebody who is also using Hangouts.
Please install the "Hangouts Dialer" app, turn off your WiFi, call a landline with the app, and then see if you can surf. I have had no issues with it so far.
Please let me know!
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Ramer,
Thank you for responding to my post. I need to point out that you have two apps confused. As above, the app is not "Hangouts". It is "Hangouts Dialer". This is a dialer app. It can call landlines, cell phones, etc. No need for call to go to somebody who is also using Hangouts.
Please install the "Hangouts Dialer" app, turn off your WiFi, call a landline with the app, and then see if you can surf. I have had no issues with it so far.
Please let me know!
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I did download and install Hangouts Dialer. Turned off Wifi. When I called my other phone, it worked as you stated. When I called a contact that was not on Hangouts, I get a pop-up that that person is not on Hangouts, do you want to send them an SMS?. Try calling a number (like a business) and see what you get.
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I did download and install Hangouts Dialer. Turned off Wifi. When I called my other phone, it worked as you stated. When I called a contact that was not on Hangouts, I get a pop-up that that person is not on Hangouts, do you want to send them an SMS?. Try calling a number (like a business) and see what you get.
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If you link up your phone number to Google Voice and than use make a call from Hangout Dialer than you can make phone calls regardless if they have hangouts app or not!
Ramer said:
I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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Ramer said:
I did download and install Hangouts Dialer. Turned off Wifi. When I called my other phone, it worked as you stated. When I called a contact that was not on Hangouts, I get a pop-up that that person is not on Hangouts, do you want to send them an SMS?. Try calling a number (like a business) and see what you get.
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Ramer,
I have called several businesses this way and have had no issues. The post above by zune70 does suggest linking your number to google voice. I don't recall doing that, but maybe I did. Maybe you can try that and see if it works?
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If you link up your phone number to Google Voice and than use make a call from Hangout Dialer than you can make phone calls regardless if they have hangouts app or not!
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Ramer,
I have called several businesses this way and have had no issues. The post above by zune70 does suggest linking your number to google voice. I don't recall doing that, but maybe I did. Maybe you can try that and see if it works?
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Having a google voice number probably is the key, I let my number get cancelled after years of non-use. No biggie, was just testing this out.
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If you link up your phone number to Google Voice and than use make a call from Hangout Dialer than you can make phone calls regardless if they have hangouts app or not!
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How do you link your number to Google Voice? I don't recall doing this and can't find how to do it.
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How do you link your number to Google Voice? I don't recall doing this and can't find how to do it.
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Go and type google voice on google and log on to the website with your Google account. There should be an option to add a Google voice number. Click on the one that says use your existing number and type in your number. It should detect that it's a sprint number and continue to the next step to enable google voice on your phone. If you don't want google voice on your phone anymore just go back to he website and disable your number from Google voice. You can always reactivate it at any time you want
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Tried this with the hangouts dialer app and Wi-Fi turned off calling a non hangouts phone number (my work phone). It does work, call and internet at the same time but for me it was very laggy, but does in fact work so good find
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Tried this with the hangouts dialer app and Wi-Fi turned off calling a non hangouts phone number (my work phone). It does work, call and internet at the same time but for me it was very laggy, but does in fact work so good find
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Evoer,
Glad this worked for you! Stinks that you were having lag issues, I guess I've been pretty lucky!
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I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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I called Capital one and surfed it works
Thx for the info this seems to work if your placing the call, question, is there away to talk and surf if your not the one placing the call?
I didn't read the entire thread.. My vzw S3 could have LTE and voice simultaneously. The S5 has a modified modem to disconnect 3G/LTE when sms/voice radio activates for battery saving. Annoying when downloading GB files!

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