I just got ATT unlimited gophone plan for $50 a month. It says unlimited voice, text and data, however data does not work no matter what ROM I flash. I get a H signal and the APN settings are correct however for some reason data does not work. My phone is a Nexus i90020a for ATT so it should work. Does anyone else have this problem and a possible solution? Thanks!
If its not a smartphone approved for that plan, it wont work unless you add a smartphone data plan. The only way around this is using an unbranded or a phone not on att databases so it cant detect your model based on imei, since they only keep records for their own phones. But your nexus is a att model and they know it so its gonna be tough getting data on the 50 dollar plan
For example in my case, im using the same plan to have unlim everything and i ONLY use international phones and havent had any issues: Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, and now HTC One X
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mike21pr said:
If its not a smartphone approved for that plan, it wont work unless you add a smartphone data plan. The only way around this is using an unbranded or a phone not on att databases so it cant detect your model based on imei, since they only keep records for their own phones. But your nexus is a att model and they know it so its gonna be tough getting data on the 50 dollar plan
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He's correct. Get an unbranded device. I currently have a Droid 3 with the $10 MediaNet plan.
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Turned off 3g and it works on EDGE. I guess if everyone was downloading gigs of unlimited data their network would crash so they only give you 2g. Thinking dumb phones can only download so much on limited technology. Im in wifi all day anyway, only for emails etc when im out of wifi range.
I got the ATT Fusion on the prepay plan and pay for minutes used only. Can still use Wifi for emails, texting, and some calls.
Since this is my first 'smart phone' it was a good way to start and avoid the higher charges for data I don't need to use.
But....having flashed new roms and got used to operating it with various apps the bug has bit me to move on up in class.
I'm thinking about the Galaxy Nexus or maybe even a tablet.
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Hey guys, i have an inspire, i was wondering if i activitated an old att basic messaging phone unlimited data plan, would it work with my inspire? And would it provide mr with the same speeds?
Thanks!
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Are you a new customer? Or are you conming from a previous smartphone like an iPhone?
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I have the same question.
I just bought an Inspire for a dumphone line that didn't have the $10 unltd data. So I guess there's no way around this line since I already bought it? I bought it at full retail no commitment. We still have the original device.
But we also have 2 other dumbphone's in the family plan that are ready for smartphones. They don't have $10 unltd data. If I got the $10 unltd on each now and in about a month(when we are ready to buy smartphones) can we get untld data on the 2 new smartphones?
you can try, but it wont work because as soon as the IMEI of the inspire registers with the network, the auto sweep tool bumps your line to the proper smartphone data plan.
but i would definitely give it a shot. however note that you dont want to lsoe your grandfathered unlimited data plan if that is what you have, and once you get bumped it might be impossible to get it back.
the best choice, which is how people avoid this, is to only use non-ATT phones that they dont know or consider smartphones. but the inspire will get detected guaranteed immediately.
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you can try, but it wont work because as soon as the IMEI of the inspire registers with the network, the auto sweep tool bumps your line to the proper smartphone data plan.
but i would definitely give it a shot. however note that you dont want to lsoe your grandfathered unlimited data plan if that is what you have, and once you get bumped it might be impossible to get it back.
the best choice, which is how people avoid this, is to only use non-ATT phones that they dont know or consider smartphones. but the inspire will get detected guaranteed immediately.
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This is my situation;
1 iPhone unltd data(grandfathered)
2 dumbphones with no data(messaging phones)
1 recently bought Inspire with 2gb data plan
My question is about the 2 messaging dumbphones. They currently have no data. The 2 want smartphones in about a month. If I get the $10 unltd data now on the 2 messaging dumbphones can I buy 2 unbranded smartphones and be able to get unltd 3G data? Do I need to get a $10 plan for each messaging phone prior to buying an unbranded phone?
I'm not going to mess with the iPhone 4 with grandfathered unltd data.
I have a Captivate with IP3G unltd. data and 2 regular lines on a family plan. I can't upgrade Captivate but use upgrade on 2 other lines. Can I order Inspire as an upgrade for a regular line and use it with my IP3G SIM from Captivate?
My experience with this:
I had a theory about iPhone 2G data plan trick and did my own spin on it. With my Inspire 4G activated and powered on, I put an old SIM card into an iPhone 2G and activated the iphone through iTunes. It let me switch to the iPhone 2G unlimited plan + 200 txt for $20, but the actual voice/data did not switch over to the iPhone because the SIM card is old/unprovisioned.
I don't know exactly why, but I've been on the unlimited 2g + 200 txt (no MMS of course) plan for three weeks now with no data plan bump. The AT&T account website recognizes the Inspire IMEI (displays the Inspire on my account). However, it will not let me remove the 2G plan and upgrade to the smartphone personal unlimited.
ATT has been really sketchy about this... all you have to do is call customer support or go into the store and say that your unlimited was removed without authorization.
I got mine back on. You will need it.
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ATT has been really sketchy about this... all you have to do is call customer support or go into the store and say that your unlimited was removed without authorization.
I got mine back on. You will need it.
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I never had unltd data on the messaging phones. I know which unbranded phones I'm going to purchase in about a month.
What should I do to take adsvsndage of unltd data on the new unbranded smart phones I'm asking. Get the messaging phones on unltd data now or it doesn't matter?
So I use my Nexus S for mostly data and have a WiFi network available to me 90% of the time so I just want data for the other 10% (so 2gigs per month should be plenty). I don't use a ton of min per month and want to port my number to google voice. I DON'T want to pay for minutes/texts through tmobile anymore.
I went to a tmobile store and looked at the hotspot devices they sell and found out they do have a sim card. Tmobile just sets it up to be data only which the won't do for phones. Anyway I'm tempted to buy a hotspot and just put the sim into my phone.
Anyway I was wondering if anyone has tried this on tmobile or any other national carrier? I'm not on contract and am willing to switch if I have to.
I went to tmobile and told them I had a galaxy tab I wanted a data sim for. They were skeptical but sold me a 1gb prepaid one for $30. I got home and stuck it in my NS and am not having any luck getting data connectivity.
I tried editing the build prop to be a galaxy tab but I don't really know what I can and can't change safely or if there is any other modification I can make. I'll try just about anything if anyone has any ideas?
Why don't u try T mobile new 30 dollar plan. You get unlimited text and web with 100 talk mins.
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Why don't u try T mobile new 30 dollar plan. You get unlimited text and web with 100 talk mins.
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Dammit. When did they start this?
texting is so expensive... :/ There are apps like text4free which offer free texting.
All you need is data.
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If I use a sidekick on ATT, will I be forced to get the att smart phone data plan? I really dont want it. I just want to use it for wifi. Hopefully one of you guys can help me. :x
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I'm gessing ull use aq gophone plan? No u won't have to, but the data that comes on the 50$ plan is unusable for our phone.
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No, Im on a family plan, unlimited talk and text, but im asking if data will be forced onto my line.
I used to work at ATT. Yes you will have to pay the price for data. Sorry
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No you won't be forced into it, just keep your mobile data connection off... One of the big problems though is you wont be able to send or receive MMS messages. If you can find ATT's APN settings for just MMS go ahead and set up your phone with just that APN and not for Data as well... I'm not sure if ATT charges extra for MMS messages or if you even want it, but they cant force you into buying data if you don't want it.
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No you won't be forced into it, just keep your mobile data connection off... One of the big problems though is you wont be able to send or receive MMS messages. If you can find ATT's APN settings for just MMS go ahead and set up your phone with just that APN and not for Data as well... I'm not sure if ATT charges extra for MMS messages or if you even want it, but they cant force you into buying data if you don't want it.
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Yes they can. Trust me. If you don't want to believe me thats fine. But trust me, they will.
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I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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Whatever
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I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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Yeah, I believe they can only force you into getting a data plan when signing up for a new contract with them.
In order to get the contract discounts on phones you need to sign up for a certain premium data plan or something stupid.
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I buy my phones second hand for that reason, ebays your pal. The op sounds as he already has att. So if he unlocks his sk 4g there wouldn't be a need, just take out the sim card and exchange. I have been changing phones as they come out, no problems... I pay 100$ flat for 5 phones on a family plan. Most importantly, no DATA PLAN...
My sister has used all my android phones that I leave behind on her att plan, never had any problems being forced into a data plan . You only truely needed an internet plan to sign up or sign into google servers, once you're past that, your all gravy, and can survive on wifi. The only phones I've had that didn't allow you to skip the sign in/setup wizard were the g1 and the mytouch 3g. But then root came : ( 0)
I know that Tmo doesnt force data plan, but Att does. Im just really unsure of what phone to get, cause Ive been hearing different things lol.
I've heard att cant detect a g2x, cause its exclusively a tmo phone, and a sidekick is also, so I was gonna get that instead. But now im hearing that they can force you it with a sidekick. I am so lost. Lol
I know that you can use this on ATT without being forced into a data plan. That's precicely what I'm doing right now. Here's what I'm trying to find out though. ATT doesn't know what phone I've got. Their site lists my old non-smartphone. If I choose to add the cheaper unlimited dataplan for non-smartphones (which is the only option available for me to choose online) then will my phone work like that? Or will they then be able to recognize my phone as a smart phone and switch me over to the smartphone data plan?
i know that some carriers will lock down your wifi so you cant use it without a data plan. i dont know if att does or not. the only way around that i know of is to remove the sim card. take out the sim card, and you can use wifi. but who wants to take their sim card out just to use wifi? the only time they can make you get a data plan is for discounts on new phones or when entering a new contract.
my experience with att sucked on this phone, i went with the 25$ go phone plan with 25$ of data (turns out data on the gophone doesnt work with 4g phones from other carriers boo) also if i had 1 bar it would drop said bar if i tried to send a text or make a phone call. the sad fact is here in montana (no local tmobile) i get better service through tmobile monthly then att monthly (who has local coverage)
U don't need a smartphone plan u can get the media net $10 data plan or block the data and only use wifi
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At&t will force a data plan if you have a 3g or higher phone.
The sidekick cannot run on at&t 3 or 4g, so it will not detect it, it will view it as a non-smartphone.
And to those saying at&t can't force a data plan at all, get a regular phone from ebay that's meant for at&t, pop your sim in, you will get a nice little text message saying you will not be charged $15 a month for data.
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At&t will force a data plan if you have a 3g or higher phone.
The sidekick cannot run on at&t 3 or 4g, so it will not detect it, it will view it as a non-smartphone.
And to those saying at&t can't force a data plan at all, get a regular phone from ebay that's meant for at&t, pop your sim in, you will get a nice little text message saying you will not be charged $15 a month for data.
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yeah and on monthly you cant even access 2g which is BS
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I buy my phones second hand for that reason, ebays your pal. The op sounds as he already has att. So if he unlocks his sk 4g there wouldn't be a need, just take out the sim card and exchange. I have been changing phones as they come out, no problems... I pay 100$ flat for 5 phones on a family plan. Most importantly, no DATA PLAN...
My sister has used all my android phones that I leave behind on her att plan, never had any problems being forced into a data plan . You only truely needed an internet plan to sign up or sign into google servers, once you're past that, your all gravy, and can survive on wifi. The only phones I've had that didn't allow you to skip the sign in/setup wizard were the g1 and the mytouch 3g. But then root came : ( 0)
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Do first boot without the sim card. The phone will turn on wifi so you can connect to Google. I do this all the time when flashing just because the first sync is faster that way.
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I juat want to know this
My gf its on att, and she wants a android phone. But she has a normal plan. If i buy her a new android phone. Will att charge her for a smarphone plan? Or will she be able to keep her normal voice and data plan. I know in tmobile you can keep eany plan you have if you buy the phone. Eany help?
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what do you mean by normal plan? i think this is how it works
1. you get her a at&t branded smartphone (one they sell), they will detect it and require you to have a smartphone data plan. starting at $15
2. you get her a non-at&t branded smartphone, they dont know what it is, so if you have no plan or have medianet plan ($10 or 15 i forget, dumbphone data plan), she keeps her current plan
i read many times that people use a unbranded smartphone with the medianet plan. me, i cant afford data so ive been using unbranded smartphones without data plan for 3 years
It really depends on what data plan she is on right now. If it's a basic phone data plan, they will make her switch to a smartphone data plan. Those are $15 for 200MB, $25 for 2GB, and $45 for 4GB. If she has an unlimited data plan, she might be able to have it grandfathered in. Those are the only changes you should see.
Im sorry she only has voice and text. But that answered my question. If she gets an att phone they will make her get data. And she cant pay it. I gues ill get her a tmo phone.
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No. You need to get an UNBRANDED international phone to be completely safe.
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im a noob in this men
What do you mean with unbranded?
ahhh i got my answer reading in the forums
Aparently i can use eany other carier phone and it will not be detected cause the data radios and frequency arent the same. they told me i should not have eany problems with them changing my plan. thanks for all your help guys
Buy from Amazon, BestBuy, etc. I mean, don't buy with the carrier.
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What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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I know, they sent me some BS email, saying that smartphones require a data plan.
They are designed for surfing the internet and use a lot of data. You are required a data plan
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What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
BookinZ06 said:
Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
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When they identify your phone as a smartphone, they don't do it through the data you send them, they don't through your imei number which is broadcast to att via your sim. So an app or rom won't do you any good. I can't speak for att, but tmobile has a similar policy with all smartphones requiring data but i have used a Nokia n8 on their network for 2 years without anyone tacking on a data plan.
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I'm on at&t prepaid $2/day without data - so far. I bought a data package before they changed their policy to monthly only for smartphones plus data package. I don't talk/text every day, so $2/day seemed worth trying. When they switched policies, I just did not buy a data package and as far as I know, I don't have at&t data access. But I have been able to use my phone for calls. Don't know what will happen when my $100 runs out, but that will probably be several months from now. Meantime I have a mobile hotspot I can use if out and about and think it necessary to check emails.
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You have to talk to a super visor. I have a the nexus without a data plan on att. Had to jump thru hoops though, rep said its done automatically through there computers so it had to be over ridded. And I had to call back
3 times because no one would do it for me.
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