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Revolution HD flash on two phones. Both phones are now slooooowwww...

A while back I rooted and flashed Revolution HD 3.6.4 on my Sensation without any issues; noticed immediate improvements, and was really pleased with the performance and battery life. Only issue was the occasional boot loop which I remedied by flashing a Bricked kernel.
Fast forward to two nights ago…
My parents also have Sensations and were not very happy with them so I convinced them let me root them which I did.
I did to their phones exactly what I did to mine, including; s-off, perma root, CWM, nandroid backup, flash ARHD 3.6.4 w/ bricked kernel.
The weird part is both of them are now having identical issues with their phones; really slow, 4hr battery life and laggy.
However…
I was sure to wipe the battery stats by draining the battery to complete shutoff, recharging to 100% (basically overnight 8hr+ charge) and erase battery stats from within CWM
I did not do a Titanium backup because a)they really didn’t have much installed, app-wise and b)I thought a fresh install would be cleaner without trying to recover any settings
I made sure to run the Revolution HD Super wipe before flashing the Rom
Installed the HTC Bricked kernel
The only thing different about their phones than my phone is they never applied the official HTC OTA major update. I went into this thinking it would not matter since we’re installing a new rom anyway but perhaps I’m wrong???
Why would two freshly-rooted phones exhibit the same issues?
I’m planning on re-flashing their phones later this week with the newer ARHD 3.6.5 rom (which I just did to mine ) hoping this will clear up any issues they’re having but want to make sure I’m not doing something wrong first…

Let me ask a more direct question.
Can I flash the new Revolution HD 3.6.5 (including the bundled faux kernel) to a phone that has not had the HTC Sense OTA update? Or will issues arise?

I think the problem is radio wise. Install the recommended radio and see if it solve the problem

OKors said:
Let me ask a more direct question.
Can I flash the new Revolution HD 3.6.5 (including the bundled faux kernel) to a phone that has not had the HTC Sense OTA update? Or will issues arise?
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Hi,
The issue is most probably the kernel.
Try installing the latest.
You have two choices.
1.faux.(in my sig)
2.bricked.(HERE)
Seeing as you have two phones to play with,why not try one on each.

malybru said:
Hi,
The issue is most probably the kernel.
Try installing the latest.
You have two choices.
1.faux.(in my sig)
2.bricked.(HERE)
Seeing as you have two phones to play with,why not try one on each.
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I flashed both their phones with the bricked kernel when I installed the rom originally.
If the problem isn't due to the older Sense version being installed what I plan on doing is flash both phones with ARHD 3.6.5 and leave the bundled kernel installed (have the 3.6.5 with new faux on my phone and so far so good).
I can try the radio flash also but I never had to flash the radio on my phone and all three phones are identical (bought them at the exact same time; family plan-thing).

OKors said:
I flashed both their phones with the bricked kernel when I installed the rom originally.
If the problem isn't due to the older Sense version being installed what I plan on doing is flash both phones with ARHD 3.6.5 and leave the bundled kernel installed (have the 3.6.5 with new faux on my phone and so far so good).
I can try the radio flash also but I never had to flash the radio on my phone and all three phones are identical (bought them at the exact same time; family plan-thing).
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Hi,
I have never updated via OTA,and I never will.(Do not trust what it will do to my phone)
There are known issues with the bundled kernels.
Both of the latest kernels have had good reviews.
Just saying.

The OTA could've updated your radio.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA Premium App

Check if you have recommended radio or not. If not, flash recommended radio. Then,
Try to download ARHD 3.6.5 (check MD5), download latest kenels of your choice.
- Super wipe
- Flash Room, and reboot (just set up phone, dont set google account and facebook yet).
- If you want do flash roomcleaner: reboot into recovery and flash roomcleaner.
- If not, just reboot in recovery, wipe cache and wipe davik cache, then flash kenel of your choice.
- Reboot, set up your google account, facebook account, email account, etc...
- If phone experiences a bit lag during turning page to page in homescreen. Just reboot again. After that you can do all battery calibration, flashing mods or themes.
It may be too careful but that just to make sure I dont mess up everything with flashing.
Hope this help!

stevendph said:
Check if you have recommended radio or not. If not, flash recommended radio. Then,
Try to download ARHD 3.6.5 (check MD5), download latest kenels of your choice.
- Super wipe
- Flash Room, and reboot (just set up phone, dont set google account and facebook yet).
- If you want do flash roomcleaner: reboot into recovery and flash roomcleaner.
- If not, just reboot in recovery, wipe cache and wipe davik cache, then flash kenel of your choice.
- Reboot, set up your google account, facebook account, email account, etc...
- If phone experiences a bit lag during turning page to page in homescreen. Just reboot again. After that you can do all battery calibration, flashing mods or themes.
It may be too careful but that just to make sure I dont mess up everything with flashing.
Hope this help!
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Hi,
ROM cleaner is flashed immediately after flashing the ROM, without any reboot.

Thanks for all the advice. I just got a call from my mom today saying her phone dies real fast and every time she takes a photo the screen goes black resulting in a battery-pull.
I gotta fix their ****z pronto.
I hyped the whole rooting thing up pretty good after flashing my phone, so far their experiences are pretty bad.
@ stevendph, I'll do exactly as you outlined. Thanks for the step by step.
fwiw the radio is whatever was on the phone from the time of purchase. Ill flash it as well with the 'recommend' radio.
So the consensus is to go back to the Bricked kernel and overwrite the new "updated" Faux kernel bundled in the ROM???

malybru said:
Hi,
ROM cleaner is flashed immediately after flashing the ROM, without any reboot.
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Yep, it's can be flashed immediately or after 1st reboot, the result will be the same as roomcleaner's function is to delete system apps, files, skin and wallpaper (which are useless or you dont use). Those also can do it manually but yes painfull .
As i stated before, it's just i am doing carefully to watch if is there anything wrong with room flashing, then continue flash other things. What i did was flash, check, flash, check... until having what neccessary -->nandroid backup, flash, check, etc . Just me to be careful
@Okors: related to kenels, just make sure you notice this.
- Faux latest kenels 0.24r1 is really good and stable (if you have 0.24 beta 7, you dont need to update, as they are same).
- Bricked kenels: v1.5 final has the problem with camera, playback video (sometimes for some devices) as blackscreen, freezing. Version 1.4r1 is really good and stable (without Zram enable). Version 1.5 beta #490 with zram, working great for me anytime including camera, playback, etc... but there are reports from someone that they have lags (i dont)...
That's all what i know when testing and reading reports about these kenels, you have the right to choose what is suite for you.

I would just flash Pyramid 3D and 0.91 Bricked, check if GPS and camera work, then call it a day. If GPS doesn't work you could always try my fix or crypted's, boh are flashable.
Pyramid 3D has been the most stable and the fastest out of all the ROMs that I've tried without having to extensively customize for myself. Honestly though, I would just flash your parents stock again. Doesn't sound like they are power users.
Sent from my HTC Sensation

nrvnqsrxk said:
...Honestly though, I would just flash your parents stock again. Doesn't sound like they are power users.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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To be honest, I'm mostly after the improved battery life for them. You're right, they're not power users; in fact the phones are way to "smart" for them. Their biggest complaint is battery life (as was mine before I rooted).
At this point I just want to get their phones back to a stable state. It's frustrating because I NEVER had any of these issues when I flashed my phone.
Even the kernels, radios, etc didn't make 'much' of a difference. I was blessed with a really, really stable flash right out of the gate
I even updated to the latest ARHD and bundled faux kernel and my phone is rock solid.
Both of my parents are coming over tonight for dinner. I'm planning on reflashing them to ARHD 3.6.5. using the steps outlined earlier. Hopefully all goes well or it's restore-to-stock time.

OKors said:
To be honest, I'm mostly after the improved battery life for them. You're right, they're not power users; in fact the phones are way to "smart" for them. Their biggest complaint is battery life (as was mine before I rooted).
At this point I just want to get their phones back to a stable state. It's frustrating because I NEVER had any of these issues when I flashed my phone.
Even the kernels, radios, etc didn't make 'much' of a difference. I was blessed with a really, really stable flash right out of the gate
I even updated to the latest ARHD and bundled faux kernel and my phone is rock solid.
Both of my parents are coming over tonight for dinner. I'm planning on reflashing them to ARHD 3.6.5. using the steps outlined earlier. Hopefully all goes well or it's restore-to-stock time.
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Hi,
May I suggest using the 3.6.x series with the 0.9.1 bricked kernel,found HERE
I put it on my son's Sensation,and he loves the stability and battery life.
He's not a power user.
He just wants a smartphone that works.
Just a thought.

You could also try the stock rom xe by eddyos. Everything works fine and battery last for 14 to 24 hrs in medium to light usage.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA App

anyone else go back on gingerbread from ics?

for now.... (which is probably only for a couple days with all the re-flashing I do)
Not anything against ICS in general but just a couple quirky things that bug me.
1. data latency. I've seen screen shots of ics data latency under 100ms but at least in my area I never see latency under 110ms, more like 120-165ms range.
Most people probably don't care about this, but it makes a huge difference when I tether. Also big difference in playing games like zynga poker. With gingerbread roms, I get 40 to 65ms. I'm beginning to wonder if this is a AOSP issue, since with gb miui I"m not seeing the speeds i get with gb sense roms.
2. multi touch. Again, not a big deal for most but play some games on ics roms and the multi touch issue become rather annoying.
3. app compatibility. I use cam scanner religiously to scan receipts into pdf's. The cropping hash marks are borked in ics. I"m sure the dev will bring everything up to date soon.
So, for now (a week or two? heh) I'm back on gingerbread.
Anyone else have a similar experience?

I think it's time for us to move forward with ICS, it's very stable now or even better than GB 2.3.5. Unless some of your apps/games hasn't been upgradevto ICS. I have the same problems when ICS first leak, untill the latest 3.32 base.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G XE with Beats Audio using Tapatalk

I tried going back to GB but the non-GPU accelerated launcher and most apps made me jump back to ICS within the hour.

Is there any way of going back to root and s-off if im s-on and stock with ics?I dont think its possible but i had to ask

mobilkungen78 said:
Is there any way of going back to root and s-off if im s-on and stock with ics?I dont think its possible but i had to ask
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That sux...then revolution method won't work for you, only way is to use HTC method.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G XE with Beats Audio using Tapatalk

On a not on the latency.
On gingerbread if you type in *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone information there are options for Ciphering. There were times that the latency on GB would get really bad and toggling ciphering off and on would fix this.
On ICS there is no Ciphering options.
Phil

Do u only need s-off to go back to gb? Haven't touch anything else, cid etc is all default
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

mobilkungen78 said:
Is there any way of going back to root and s-off if im s-on and stock with ics?I dont think its possible but i had to ask
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If you have the stock RUU then yes. I have done it.
Assuming you are now on the updated ICS sw 3.32.401.5. First make a Titanium Backup of all apps and settings and make backups of whatever you may have that you want to save and restore later.
Run the ruu, get back to stock, (if you have an earlier ruu) do all the updates until 1.50.401.1 then you root and all that with revolutionary and su-file.zip, skip custom recovery! (if you flash custom recovery you later on have to flash back stock recovery if you want OTA updates)
Continue OTA update to ICS 3.32.401.5
flash the su-file.zip again, you might have to do it more than once.
You should now be rooted.
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Edit: Sorry if I misunderstood, if you are on ICS and want to go back to GB just run the RUU.

[Q] I can't decide, to flash or not to flash...

I can't decide, and I'd appreciate your advice. I'm kind of noob. I flashed a custom ROM on my mytouch 4g. And I only did it once. Afterwards, I kind of regretted it because the ROM seemed to be more buggy than the stock. Now, I'm waiting to get ICS on my sensation, but I keep looking through the threads at the ICS ROMs that are already out there and they look sweet. I'm not sure if I want to wait for the ICS OTA, or just flash a custom ROM. The only things that are stopping me from rooting my phone are the fact that I am kind of a noob, and I don't want to flash then have the OTA happen the next day, and have it screw with my stuff. Would I be able to go back to stock after the OTA, and then just have tmobile push the OTA? Also, I have a mac... and I'm pretty sure I can't use a mac for flashing new ROMs. I don't mean to be redundant and I hope this doesn't piss anyone off, cause I see a new thread everyday about the new ICS release. Thanks for any feedback.

You can revert back by flashing via RUU, after this you can receive the official OTA when it gets pushed. Now the part about you having a make may cause some problems. I suggest you do some Googling and find a good virtual machine to run Windows with on your Mac.

i would flash
i think you should definitely flash a custom rom. since the sensations release many roms out now have fixed issues of being buggy/ slow and battery draining. im using the newest insertcoin rom and had android hd revolution before that. both are super smooth and fast. as for reverting to a stock rom, i believe all you would have to do is find the update RUU file for the stock rom to go back, this will cause you to lose root, but after you flash a rom you'll probably feel no need to go back. and always make a backup
btw 1st post

I came from the mytouch 4g as well. If you rooted and flashed on that phone you will do just fine on the sensation. The sensation is about 100 times easier to root than the mytouch.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

Stop Waiting for TMO to Update to ICS!

If you are waiting for TMO to Update the Sensation to ICS you should stop waiting and update to ARHD. I am a ARHD user and have been applying each update as it comes down and have had no issues at all. Battery life has improved ten fold and Android 4.0.3 is great.
If you are concerned about the warranty issues with rooting, don't be. You are on the XDA forum, so I will assume that you have at least a basic understanding of how to operate your computer. It is a simple process and you would have to be a complete idiot to screw it up.
Take it from me, switch to ARHD and you will be beyond happy!

gdwhite said:
If you are waiting for TMO to Update the Sensation to ICS you should stop waiting and update to ARHD. I am a ARHD user and have been applying each update as it comes down and have had no issues at all. Battery life has improved ten fold and Android 4.0.3 is great.
If you are concerned about the warranty issues with rooting, don't be. You are on the XDA forum, so I will assume that you have at least a basic understanding of how to operate your computer. It is a simple process and you would have to be a complete idiot to screw it up.
Take it from me, switch to ARHD and you will be beyond happy!
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x2 arhd is good stuff along with many other roms in the dev forum

ARHD is Sense, 'tis not?

enserio said:
ARHD is Sense, 'tis not?
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Yes, and the update from HTC will be Sense also...so no point in waiting? Getting off base install from TMO did wonders for the speed of my Sensation.
I know some people are concerned about losing Wifi calling, but it seems to work in ARHD and Virtuous ROMs just fine (btw Virtuous does NOT have Sense). I had one minor hiccup with it in an older ARHD version, but its stable now.
I was worried about losing my warranty, but if you follow the S-off/on procedure closely, you can revert your phone back to normal in case you need warranty service!

demonsavatar said:
Yes, and the update from HTC will be Sense also...so no point in waiting? Getting off base install from TMO did wonders for the speed of my Sensation.
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Yummy what do you mean, the official ICS OTA for T-Mobile US has not been released yet?

Would love to update but the procedure seems extremely convoluted with unknown result. I am now trying to find a Youtube guide or something of this sort.

Im on ARHD right now but i would love to flash a stock ICS...problem is everytime i followed one of the guides out there i ran into a problem. I guess its because the guides are not for Sensation 4G.
Would be really nice if someone can put up a guide on how to flash a stock ICS on Sensation 4G tmo.

Question for you all. My phone is stock. If I do one of these ICS ROMs, will that wipe out all the apps I have installed and their progress? Will it make my phone like brand new?
I'm ASSUMING if I wait for the T-Mobile ICS it will keep all of my apps and their info?
Thank you
Jerry

I got tired of waiting.
I tried AHRD first and it's good. I ran it for about a week playing with sebatian's and faux's kernels. I've been running Elegancia for the last week with Bricked kernel I like it more.
I want to try CM9 when it's fully operational for a pure AOSP experience. I also want to try a Sense 4 ROM, but I understand BT isn't fully functional yet and I need that in the car - and I'm reading bad reports on battery life at this point.
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hortaja said:
Question for you all. My phone is stock. If I do one of these ICS ROMs, will that wipe out all the apps I have installed and their progress? Will it make my phone like brand new?
I'm ASSUMING if I wait for the T-Mobile ICS it will keep all of my apps and their info?
Thank you
Jerry
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Your data will be wiped and you'll be doing setup like a new phone.
Download Titanium Backup first and backup all your apps/data. You're apps should auto install after you flash the ROM - or you can install them manually. Then you can restore your app data from Titanium and your game progress will be back.
I don't know if waiting for T-mo's update will require the same backup or not. But give that firmware will be updated and a complete OS update, I don't see how your app data would be safe then either.

rebar71 said:
I don't know if waiting for T-mo's update will require the same backup or not. But give that firmware will be updated and a complete OS update, I don't see how your app data would be safe then either.
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With a stock OTA update, the update is installed via the stock recovery. The stock recovery makes a backup first before flashing the update. After the update is flashed the stock recovery takes and installs all your apps and other data from the backup it made. This way when you flash the OTA the end user does not loose all their settings, apps, and personal ink saved on their device.

T-Macgnolia said:
With a stock OTA update, the update is installed via the stock recovery. The stock recovery makes a backup first before flashing the update. After the update is flashed the stock recovery takes and installs all your apps and other data from the backup it made. This way when you flash the OTA the end user does not loose all their settings, apps, and personal ink saved on their device.
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Thank you so much for this info.

[Q] My first attempt at installing custom rom

I have TWRP installed on my One X and fully backed up my current settings through the Backup function in TWRP as well as Titanium backup, just to be safe.
I want to install MIUI so I've downloaded the zip. Is the best method to wipe the phone and then install the zip, or is it to restore to factory settings and then install the zip?
Also, if I want to go back to my current rom (HTC Sense - that came with the phone) how would I restore the TWRP backup that was created? Also how solid is the TWRP backup? Will I have problems restoring from that with random things like market associations or settings?
Thanks for all the help everyone.

TWRP backups back up EVERYTING (I mean kernel, system, app apks) except for sdcard data. Restoring a backup will look exactly like the moment you backed up the ROM.
In order to flash a new ROM, do this:
1. Back up your apps using some application (Titanium Backup, Ultimate Backup, etc)
2. Create a new TWRP backup
3. Factory Reset
4. Install the ZIP
5. Boot into your ROM and download whatever app you downloaded in step 1
6. Restore your apps from step 1
Enjoy

im looking for a good rom as well but im new.
my att one x was on 1.85 before i rooted it and unlocked the bootloader.
now im just looking for a senseless rom like Jdroids or CM9 that will work with my situation.
id love to get jdroids exodized revoultion, does that work with att? or do i have to wait for an att version to come out?
any suggestions. thnx

veyg said:
im looking for a good rom as well but im new.
my att one x was on 1.85 before i rooted it and unlocked the bootloader.
now im just looking for a senseless rom like Jdroids or CM9 that will work with my situation.
id love to get jdroids exodized revoultion, does that work with att? or do i have to wait for an att version to come out?
any suggestions. thnx
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Don't flash anything that isn't actually in our dev forum unless you want a buggy POS (best case), a massive bootloop (slightly worse case), a beautiful paperweight (pretty bad), or your phone exploding (yeah that's probably the worst).
I made that last one up, but who knows.
As for Sense-less roms, look for AOKP or CM9. CleamROM DE/Dev Edition is pretty much Sense-less, but it retains some backend Sense things to ensure everything still works properly. It's as close to AOSP as you're gonna get without actually being AOSP.

stnguyen09 said:
Don't flash anything that isn't actually in our dev forum unless you want a buggy POS (best case), a massive bootloop (slightly worse case), a beautiful paperweight (pretty bad), or your phone exploding (yeah that's probably the worst).
I made that last one up, but who knows.
As for Sense-less roms, look for AOKP or CM9. CleamROM DE/Dev Edition is pretty much Sense-less, but it retains some backend Sense things to ensure everything still works properly. It's as close to AOSP as you're gonna get without actually being AOSP.
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Hello can you help me? i have a paper weight because i installed the wrong rom and i flashed it when i had 20% battery now y one x wont turn on or charge please help

mr.5106411 said:
Hello can you help me? i have a paper weight because i installed the wrong rom and i flashed it when i had 20% battery now y one x wont turn on or charge please help
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Well there's another lesson in there. Don't flash unless you have sufficient battery (I never do it under 50%....best to do it when fully charged though)
So you're not getting the led indicator to light up when you plug it in? What rom did you flash?