So when i move to a new version of a rom, how do i keep all my info? I was just used to backup/restore with a rom version change on cyanogenmod where i can restore and it won't overwrite the previous rom and revert changes.
Do i always have to wipe all data when uploading a new rom?
Shouldn't the nandroid backup restore everything but keep the current rom?
emoandy said:
So when i move to a new version of a rom, how do i keep all my info? I was just used to backup/restore with a rom version change on cyanogenmod where i can restore and it won't overwrite the previous rom and revert changes.
Do i always have to wipe all data when uploading a new rom?
Shouldn't the nandroid backup restore everything but keep the current rom?
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I learned this today myself.
General rule is:
Switching ROMs? Wipe everything
Updating a ROM? Wipe cache and dalvik-cache
Installing an addon? Don't need to wipe anything
i guess that answers part of my question. the main part was when i switch roms, how do i keep all of my info? when using cyanogenmod, i could back up using nandroid backup from recovery, and restore when i installed a new rom, however it seems with some roms i cannot do this as it will overwrite changes in the new rom. how do i avoid this, how do i keep all of my data while not overwriting the new rom changes?
I'll try to answer your question, if I think I know what you mean by data. Data from ROM or data from phone/apps.
If data from phone/apps. then I would suggest Titanium Backup(Paid version) from market. Once you install a New ROM with a complete Data wipe, what ever you backed up with TB from your previous setting can be restored. This is good if you are installing a ROM not from the same dev.
Other wise if you installing a ROM from same dev, a revision, you don't have to do a wipe data.
If data from ROM, well I don't know there, never had to do it.
emoandy said:
i guess that answers part of my question. the main part was when i switch roms, how do i keep all of my info? when using cyanogenmod, i could back up using nandroid backup from recovery, and restore when i installed a new rom, however it seems with some roms i cannot do this as it will overwrite changes in the new rom. how do i avoid this, how do i keep all of my data while not overwriting the new rom changes?
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ok, so you're saying when, let's say, going from 1.0 to 1.1 of the same dev rom, just an update, i do not need to wipe data?
Yes. The only time you ever need to wipe data and cache is when you trying a ROM from a different dev.
If installing a different rom, then that's where TB comes in handy.
Side note: Also CWM ROM Manager backup utility will backup every thing if you wanted to revert back.
Dayton advice above is a good rule to follow.
There's other bits and pieces but search or ask.
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I've searched out and read alot about rooting. I've down loaded the required files. Read and re-read as much as I can about rooting, flashing, recovery etc. I do not claim to understand it all. I'm still in my Buyers Remorse period so I won't root until thats over.
I've read from end to all, all the Custom ROM threads on this forum. EaglesBlood makes the comment...Wipe wipe wipe ....and he lists several things to wipe.
I've gone back into rooting and flashing guides and cannot find anything about Wipe.
I rooted only 1 time in my life....on the Nexus One....but don't recall using any wipe command.
I searched over in the Android forum for any kind of guide that would take me from Root to recovery to flash to update....and answer the wipe question for me.
I've flashed and wiped for years on Windows Phone....and spent the time in advance to understand the process and the steps ...before I attempted it. Want to be as sure with Android...before I step in...because...lord help me....if I brick the device, I'm gonna have to go to a Sensation....because G2x's aren't back on the market yet....and I really don't want to do that....I'll have to take back everything I said about the sensation if I do....
Does anyone know of a guide that goes from root to recovery to backup to flash and includes the tips and tricks like....wipe, when to wipe, etc?
TIA
If you want to root there is a topic in dev section called superoneclick
For clockworkmod(backups, restores, rom and kernel flashing) check out the nvflash topic in dev section
For all roms there is usually instructions as what exactly to do in steps.
Hope this helps. I would post links if I was on my computer sorry.
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Also this topic should probably be in the Q&A section
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I will help answer your question. When you root an android phone you are installing files that give you the ability to modify your rom, and recovery. These files are stored in a separate partition on your phone that is hidden from the phone you will not need to wipe when just rooting your phone.
If you want to install a custom rom you will need to first flash a different recovery for the g2x you need to use nvflash. This process once again you will not need to wipe the phone. Whit this recovery you can make backups of you phone and does not require a custom rom.
If you want to then install a custom rom use the new recovery to make a backup first that way you can restore your phone if anything goes wrong.
Now after your back up and after down loading what ever new rom you wish to use it is always suggested to wipe your phone. Wiping clears out all your personal files from you rom partion making it easier for the new rom to install the new files needed for the rom and to modify any old ones.
I hope this helps explain and clears ups your questions.
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Moved to proper forum.
There are a couple of options in the recovery menu that let you wipe data. When I boot into clockwork mod recovery you can choose to wipe all user data, cache, dalvik cache, and battery statistics. They're located under different sub menus but they're all there. When your ready to flash a rom make sure you have a backup, then wipe all user data 2 or 3 times (thus the Wipe Wipe Wipe you were referring to), wipe dalvik cache, and then flash. Some people recommend wiping battery statistics too but I don't know if that's necessary every time. Once you've wiped everything sufficiently then flash your rom. Wiping just ensures you're starting with a clean slate.
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Thanks All,
Right after I posted this, I found unlockr.com. Not that he looks like 'The' expert, he puts everyones stuff together in the same place. I saw where the WIPE WIPE WIPE comes from.
I had already used this superone click thread on this forum to gather the files...but wanted to see the steps in action....the vids on the unlockr site show me the steps quite nicely.
thanks all for the feedback.!!
"Wipe, wipe, wipe" refers to wipe the data, cache, and Dalvik cache, which is done via CWM.
I'm a new Skyrocket user. Had it for a couple weeks now. I really like it but want to test out some of the custom roms. Right now I'm updated to the stock ICS. I've installed TWRP and rooted it. Bought Titanium Backup to freeze some of the bloatware and backup. Also installed Nova Launcher and some other apps that I use all the time.
I would like to test a couple roms but want to be able to go back to exactly what I have now if I don't like the custom rom.
How do I backup everything so I can go back?
What I'm thinking is backup with TWRP to an external sd card. Will this backup the USB storage on my phone too? Basically everything?
Thanks
Also, when installing a new rom is it normal to wipe the data on the USB storage?
Thanks
Yes, backup with twrp, also called a nandroid backup. Always do this before doing any flashing. It backs up the system image. Everything except radio.
Before you do anything you need to do some more reading. If you're asking these basic questions you're not ready to do anything yet.
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All - I recently rooted my phone. I was excited to start experimenting with ROMs and then got completely overwhelmed.
It was hard to figure out the differences among ROMs, and when I tried to learn how to flash them and try different ones I felt that the instructions for flashing ROMs in the individual threads seemed written for people with a lot more experience than I have.
When I started seeing terms I didnt understand, talk of flashing modems, etc. I totally got intimidated and gave up
Can anyone help direct me to the best guide on this site (I have searched around) for a beginner to experiment with ROMs? Easiest to follow instructions? I followed the ROOT instructions on this thread and found them pretty easy to follow step by step.
Also I know we arent supposed to have "best of" conversations, but are there any ROMs that are easier to install than others, where it might be a good starting point to experiment and learn?
I have Titanium backup but I know people talk about things like "nandroid" and while I have found threads that mention these things, I am really struggling to confidently put it all together.
Any advice or guidance? Is this too much of a total n00b question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785999
Once you have a custom recovery, you are golden.
All you need is an ICS radio for any jelly bean ROM except for the leaks. You need leaked radio for a ROM based on one of the jellybean leaks.
As for flashing instructions you can follow the op as there will always be instructions posted, but personally I wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik, format/data, format/system and format/cache all x3. Yes it's excessive, but I've never had a problem.
Normally you will wipe then flash rom-->gapps-->any other tweaks (ie. Audio, GPS patch, etc)
All ROMs are easy to install. Just follow the instructions in the OP and you should be good to go
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Thanks for the responsiveness. I did install a customer recovery (TWRP) as part of my root process.
But here is where I am breaking down...when people say things like "wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik, format/data, format/system and format/cache all x3" and "flash rom-->gapps-->any other tweaks (ie. Audio, GPS patch, etc)" I get totally lost.
So I have TWRP am I supposed to run some type of backup or something with it before flashing? This is sort of the staged piece Im struggling to understand...
lirong said:
Thanks for the responsiveness. I did install a customer recovery (TWRP) as part of my root process.
But here is where I am breaking down...when people say things like "wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik, format/data, format/system and format/cache all x3" and "flash rom-->gapps-->any other tweaks (ie. Audio, GPS patch, etc)" I get totally lost.
So I have TWRP am I supposed to run some type of backup or something with it before flashing? This is sort of the staged piece Im struggling to understand...
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Yes, always do a backup! Boot into twrp and push backup, it's very simple.
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lirong said:
Thanks for the responsiveness. I did install a customer recovery (TWRP) as part of my root process.
But here is where I am breaking down...when people say things like "wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik, format/data, format/system and format/cache all x3" and "flash rom-->gapps-->any other tweaks (ie. Audio, GPS patch, etc)" I get totally lost.
So I have TWRP am I supposed to run some type of backup or something with it before flashing? This is sort of the staged piece Im struggling to understand...
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And when flashing make sure your wipe your data and cache under wipe! Otherwise the custom ROM you flashed won't work properly!
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MrGriffdude said:
And when flashing make sure your wipe your data and cache under wipe! Otherwise the custom ROM you flashed won't work properly!
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Among other things, yes
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xcrazydx said:
Yes, always do a backup! Boot into twrp and push backup, it's very simple.
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OK thanks and is that what people are calling a "nandroid"?
After I flash do I need to use this backup or is it just in case things go wrong and I want to go back to the pre-flash setting?
lirong said:
OK thanks and is that what people are calling a "nandroid"?
After I flash do I need to use this backup or is it just in case things go wrong and I want to go back to the pre-flash setting?
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Yes, that's a nandroid.
The backup is only used in case you want to return to pre-flash
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lirong said:
OK thanks and is that what people are calling a "nandroid"?
After I flash do I need to use this backup or is it just in case things go wrong and I want to go back to the pre-flash setting?
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yes to the backup question
first read my stickies, the links are in my sig, sigs are at the bottom of the post
read and learn as much as you can as you dont want to brick your phone > your phone is as useful as a brick
Awesome. So I create a backup (from what Ive read sounds like only Systems and Data). Its ok to have it on internal storage and compressed?
Then I use TWRP to wipe data, factory reset and clear cache? Is that correct?
And then I will move on to " dalvik, format/data, format/system and format/cache all x3"...not sure what this means yet but reading up on it. Are these all things I do through TWRP?
Thanks so much for holding my hand through this - I really am trying not to use you guys as too much of a crutch!
Part of what is confusing me, for example, is when I look at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801686 - I dont see anything about the format system, dalvik, etc...
vincom said:
yes to the backup question
first read my stickies, the links are in my sig, sigs are at the bottom of the post
read and learn as much as you can as you dont want to brick your phone > your phone is as useful as a brick
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Thanks. I have read the STICKY's in your signature and they were very helpful. Your help is what got me rooted all on my own!
That being said they left me confused at a few steps so thats what Im trying to make sure I get right here.
lirong said:
Thanks. I have read the STICKY's in your signature and they were very helpful. Your help is what got me rooted all on my own!
That being said they left me confused at a few steps so thats what Im trying to make sure I get right here.
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Which steps confuse you what is your end goal?
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lirong said:
Awesome. So I create a backup (from what Ive read sounds like only Systems and Data). Its ok to have it on internal storage and compressed?
Then I use TWRP to wipe data, factory reset and clear cache? Is that correct?
And then I will move on to " dalvik, format/data, format/system and format/cache all x3"...not sure what this means yet but reading up on it. Are these all things I do through TWRP?
Thanks so much for holding my hand through this - I really am trying not to use you guys as too much of a crutch!
Part of what is confusing me, for example, is when I look at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801686 - I dont see anything about the format system, dalvik, etc...
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thats not our phone
you do have a i727 aka skyrocket, do me a favor, remove the battery and see what model your phone is. if it is i727 dont read other phones instructions
vincom said:
thats not our phone
you do have a i727 aka skyrocket, do me a favor, remove the battery and see what model your phone is. if it is i727 dont read other phones instructions
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doh!
Wrong phone! Yes I have a skyrocket.
I followed your instructions to put TWRP on and created a backup. So now I just download the ROM and go back intro TWRP, do the factory wipe reset and then choose the ROM?
lirong said:
doh!
Wrong phone! Yes I have a skyrocket.
I followed your instructions to put TWRP on and created a backup. So now I just download the ROM and go back intro TWRP, do the factory wipe reset and then choose the ROM?
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my advice read the 1 stop sticky, the guide and info sections.
twrp>wipe>cache partition, dalvik, system, reset > then flash roms only from this i727 forum here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383
Im on it. Will let you know how it goes!
This may be a dumb question, but once I flash a new ROM will I need to redo my desktop, shortcuts,icons, etc? Will I need to restore all my apps and settings using TitaniumBackup or do they remain?
lirong said:
doh!
Wrong phone! Yes I have a skyrocket.
I followed your instructions to put TWRP on and created a backup. So now I just download the ROM and go back intro TWRP, do the factory wipe reset and then choose the ROM?
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Man, you better be careful! I don't know how you end up in a completely different forum.
Download Rom
Place on external sd
Boot into twrp
Make backup
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache
Factory reset
Wipe system
Flash a radio if needed
Flash Rom
If cm based Rom, flash gapps
Reboot
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lirong said:
Im on it. Will let you know how it goes!
This may be a dumb question, but once I flash a new ROM will I need to redo my desktop, shortcuts,icons, etc? Will I need to restore all my apps and settings using TitaniumBackup or do they remain?
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Backup with Titanium and restore w/ data for necessary apps. I do w/ data for things such as Apex launcher and other apps that have data I want to keep. If you do this then your icons for your launcher that was backed up will come back after the restore. Any widgets will need to be manually placed back on homescreens
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xcrazydx said:
Man, you better be careful! I don't know how you end up in a completely different forum.
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Yeah not too smooth. I got caught up googling around for helpful links and reading on XDA that I ended up following a thread on how to flash, rather than realizing it was for a different device.
Thanks for the patience.
Just to double check...on Titanium Backup I want to choose Back Up all Apps + System Data....then post flash, I restore with the System Data...correct?
Hi,
I have a general and simple question.
Last week I changed to paranoid rom and I want to return to 11S rom.
If I'm just restoring the nandroid backup and wipe catch and data it is as the same as fleshing it new?
thanks!
Not really,
Anyway, since you gonna wipe data anyway,
Why dont you just flash the whole new rom altogether, instead of nandroid rstore,
Wont take u longer either
It's just easier to do(no need to root again and open the bootloader and recovery) !
Anyway, when I'm installing new rom it will erase my internal storage or just the data/contacts etc.?
thanks!
otonieru said:
Not really,
Anyway, since you gonna wipe data anyway,
Why dont you just flash the whole new rom altogether, instead of nandroid rstore,
Wont take u longer either
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There's no need to flash the ROM from scratch, a nandroid restore is perfectly fine.
efee123 said:
It's just easier to do(no need to root again and open the bootloader and recovery) !
Anyway, when I'm installing new rom it will erase my internal storage or just the data/contacts etc.?
thanks!
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Just go ahead and restore your nandroid backup, it's exactly what they're designed for. The process should wipe the necessary partitions for you but I always wipe system, data, cache, and dalvik cache first anyway just to be sure.
And no, installing a ROM doesn't erase your user data unless you do it yourself. Erasing the data partition only erases apps, settings, etc.
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Great!! many thanks!