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Captivte variants.

Is there a single place to go to read about the differences between the Captivate phones (i.e. i9000, armani, us version, european version, etc). It is all very confusing at times.

gsmarena.com and phonearena.com are the two sites I use, but you'll need to know their localized carrier names (e.g. captivate, vibrant, etc) or model #s (i897, i9000).

Have looked at the wiki? Obviously not. Thanks for posting in q&a.

http://pdadb.net/ is probably my fav...

The Wiki that others have suggested is located here. Try to ignore those members who want to be assholes to people trying to learn. In the future, please post any questions you have in in the Q&A section.

Red_81 said:
The Wiki that others have suggested is located here. Try to ignore those members who want to be assholes to people trying to learn. In the future, please post any questions you have in in the Q&A section.
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The real problem is people like you coddling these guys and thinking that we're a holes for pointing out the obvious. All you are doing is spoon feeding the weak and not letting any of em learn from their mistake. You swoop in any time somebody points out a noob mistake and unhook you're bra for the suckling. Well it needs to stop.

I had a witty reply all typed up and then I realized I just don't give a ****. I've got better things to do. Give those newbs hell. Maybe then they'll run to pay $5 for support to a guy who just plagiarizes from XDA anyway.
From the Forum Rules:
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.

Thanks for everyones help.

http://www.youtube.com/user/xdadevelopers?feature=chclk
this is what they are going to to make the new people watch once becoming a member. and the simple answer is that you only have to be worried about the captivate if your on this form untill you get enough experience to start porting things yourself. The captivate is models i896 and i897 and they have interchangeable roms.

I agree to red81, if u dont like the post/topic, just ignore it and let the other members who wants to respond and help the newbis, imo..
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lyrad12 said:
I agree to red81, if u dont like the post/topic, just ignore it and let the other members who wants to respond and help the newbis, imo..
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Watch the video above. I don't think the official xda opinion is that of let happen what may happen.

Thanks for being courteous.

Taz, don't take it personal...this is a great site to ask info and many, many people will be more than happy to help you out...noob or veteran.
Others are just cranky.

[Q] Should we do something like this?????

Ok so been searching around the forums and found there seems to be a few devs/rom devs that use this on the second or third post.....
List of Shame (Flagged Users)
These are the list of users who asked questions without properly reading the OP. It's a waste of space and a waste of time to read it. Read OP twice. Think twice. and Think again before posting. If you don't, you'll end up here and will no longer get the support you're looking from me and of course, it will be a big shame for you.
offender Names + offences Ie : op states Wifi does not work User X brings up wifi does not work.
Not sure where credit is actually due but could help to avoid a lot of drama.....

I LOVE this idea! Not sure if it's any kind of infringement on forum rules or not, but could be a great "checks and balance" for n00obs and others to think twice before posting...
Edit: I think we (you) should post a thread in the General Section, so as for all to see! Also, as mentioned below, create a set of "Rules of Redemption" for listees to have a chance to be removed.
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Well once someone gets their name in the list further posts from them will be ignored even if they are genuine dont you think??
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Oh this is awesome!!! I like the idea, but you should expand this for everyone, not just yourself to not give support to those list of users on this, list.
there should also be a way off the bad boy list too, not sure how at the moment, but there has to be a way to redeem oneself like maybe a three strikes or something to actually get on the list and then there is no getting off, but the first and second time(s) you get a chance to redeem yourself and can still get off this list maybe..

devilhunter47 said:
Well once someone gets their name in the list further posts from them will be ignored even if they are genuine dont you think??
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Think this would be more to make users read and research a little more..... If they end up on the list and ask something down the road if it is relevant we will not shun them atleast me.....
@ Jim yea some type of balance system to keep things in check would be the way to go..... Someone on with 1 post on a list could say get a warning or whatever they end up repeat offenders then take action.....

How about the multiple section tags feature? This will act as keyword for searching. E.g. http://stackoverflow.com like meta tags....fixed tags for each section can only created by reputed members only.
I said so as we have auto suggestion for similar questions is already there.
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Lots of forums have a q&a section. Each rom then has a post where users can help each other and leave the dev threads uncluttered. It can be listed in op and any question asked can simply be replied with the link to said forum. This could be used in conjunction with a list of shame.
I once thought a forum had to have a certain amount of post to get a q&a but the ion has one with hardly any activity.
My two cents. I like the list of shame idea though.
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Well we could throw around some ideas and see what would be a fair way to work something like this.....

Here is my thoughts for this:
2 lists:
1) Infractions list:
Users name and a +1 or a +2 after their name, and the offense(s) i.e. not searching, or posting an issue in a forum that was already in the OP.
2) Permanent "bad boy list", this is 3 or more infractions, and the list of said infractions are not needed.
The fist list should include a link to said infraction(s), and it should last for 15 days for first offense, and 3-60 days for the 2nd offense. These offense should be notified to you hankbizzo through PM or some "more private" facility.
These are just my thoughts on this.

For each first time offender, a link to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631[GUIDE] How To Be A New Member, Not A N00B (?) and a "written warning" with the expressed intent to add them to the 'black list' if found in contempt again...
Edit: hankbizzo5, and you might PM prbassplayer and see about getting him on board with this. If others can't read the rules (as listed by YOU) and post an offender in the thread and neglect to send said offender to you via PM, then you can have that post linked to their offense, assuming it's their first and in "written warning" with form.
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I will let this run for a few and gather as much info and oppinions as I can..... then will post up a (Bad boys list).....

Suggestions:
Rules, first and foremost- infractions of offenders to include, but not limited to:
Any member found posting in wrong sections and/or posting a new thread unnecessarily or a re-posting of similar thread(s).
Apparent and blatant failure to search before posting
Posting incorrect or bogus information
Flaming/trolling/or other 'misconduct' such as combative or abusive language and/or intolerance of others
Posting Warez or other solicitations for gain/profit/personal advantage
Spamming the boards
Not using or posting in English
Posting/bumping one's own threads repeatedly for quicker responses
Using other's work(s) without permission(s)
Not posting in clear, concise manner(s)
Asking for donations
(Basically, all the "normal" and expected forum rules to adhere to and observe)
Disciplinary Actions:
1st offense = "written warning" with in your (hankbizzo5) OP along with link of infraction and brief description
2nd offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list for 15 days
3rd offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list for 30 days
4th offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list permanently
Rules of Redemption:
1st time offenders = provide 3 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
2nd time offenders = provide 5 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
3rd time offenders = provide 10 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
4th time offenders= you're out of luck
Feel free to tweak/add/omit/etc
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jimbridgman said:
Here is my thoughts for this:
2 lists:
1) Infractions list:
Users name and a +1 or a +2 after their name, and the offense(s) i.e. not searching, or posting an issue in a forum that was already in the OP.
2) Permanent "bad boy list", this is 3 or more infractions, and the list of said infractions are not needed.
The fist list should include a link to said infraction(s), and it should last for 15 days for first offense, and 3-60 days for the 2nd offense. These offense should be notified to you hankbizzo through PM or some "more private" facility.
These are just my thoughts on this.
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And who will be judge and jury? How can we be assured that no bias is used in judgement.
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leifemagnuson said:
Lots of forums have a q&a section. Each rom then has a post where users can help each other and leave the dev threads uncluttered. It can be listed in op and any question asked can simply be replied with the link to said forum. This could be used in conjunction with a list of shame.
I once thought a forum had to have a certain amount of post to get a q&a but the ion has one with hardly any activity.
My two cents. I like the list of shame idea though.
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I agree wholeheartedly with a q&a section.
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Wow. I understand the intent behind all this, and if people have the time/energy to track it all, more power to you. I understand the frustration behind this effort, but I think it does more to quell free exchange of information than promote it. However, here's my two comments...
Flaming/trolling/or other 'misconduct' such as combative or abusive language and/or intolerance of others
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You may need to break this one out more. Flaming and Trolling are usually obvious, but I've seen some posts by all parties devolve into abusive and intolerant responses.
Not posting in clear, concise manner(s)
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Not sure about this one. Not everyone is clear and concise.

smgulsby said:
And who will be judge and jury? How can we be assured that no bias is used in judgement.
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The "jury" might be a selection of Senior Members and Developers who could review the infractions. Let's face it, the rules are simple, and those breaking them are easy to spot. No need for "innocent until prove that guilty" with most of these kind of things...
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So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general or if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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leifemagnuson said:
So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general of if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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Well, it's all still sort of being fleshed out at the moment. Not even sure if we'll commit to such a thread, but if so those on the 'permanent' list don't necessarily get completely alienated, but there should be NO REASON for anyone to even get there. It's more a "boilerplate" consequence which should see no members find themselves there. As far as not allowing members to post in certain threads as result of their rule breaking, we don't have that type of authority nor should we want it. It's more like a "stockade", if you will, to keep everyone from fugging up; and if they do its right there for everyone to see. Nobody likes to be humiliated, and I doubt there will be much more than written reprimand actions being given anyhow. I don't know, hankbizzo5 says he's seen this done elsewhere, and chances are its 'quelled' no free exchange of information. Those that ended up on the lists elsewhere obviously said or did something stupid. I wouldn't consider that type of information exchange valued or important. Who knows, still in the bouncing around ideas and thoughts stages...
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leifemagnuson said:
So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general of if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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Pretty much anyone can still do what they like, and it will still be up to anyone or everyone to do what they want. If you would like to follow the method on putting those on the so called bad boy list on your ignore list, is again up to you to do. These users can still post and do anything they want on xda, it is up to individual users to decide how they really want to take part or not in this. I am thinking for me that anyone who ends up on the permanent list would end up on my ignore list and anyone on the other lists would just be more like a slap on the hand would still get full support unless the really pushed it and ended up on the permanent list, which then again it is up to you to ignore or not.
That is just my take on it.

This seems puerile.

Of course this is all based whether we as users agree to said scenarios. My first paragraph could have been clearer I guess. Over all I like the idea. I think I prefer apex's 4th offence along with the redemption policy.
My thoughts on keeping this from being stickied. I, like I bet most of you don't always check the stickies when on tapatalk. I much prefer the bump system for this type of thing with links in op's and signatures.
Edit: Has anyone seen or read "A boy and his dog"? Who is the committee?
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Possible solution to non dev posts in dev threads

Would there be any way to have a special membership level in the forum privileges that allows posting in the dev forums, this would force people I.E. general users with questions to read and discover the Q&A forums. To get said privileges someone should simply have to request and agree not to break those rules. Good idea?
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GinkgoBiloba said:
Would there be any way to have a special membership level in the forum privileges that allows posting in the dev forums, this would force people I.E. general users with questions to read and discover the Q&A forums. To get said privileges someone should simply have to request and agree not to break those rules. Good idea?
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No. Bad idea.
The Dev forums should be locked to anyone who doesn't have special status on XDA (e.g. Devs, RCs, RTs etc). For a 'normal' user to be able to post in the Dev forum they should have to be invited and approved by the Devs - and that right could be rescinded at any time.
That would have the secondary benefit of stopping the people who continually post useless cr4p just to get their post count up to 10

SimonTS said:
No. Bad idea.
The Dev forums should be locked to anyone who doesn't have special status on XDA (e.g. Devs, RCs, RTs etc). For a 'normal' user to be able to post in the Dev forum they should have to be invited and approved by the Devs - and that right could be rescinded at any time.
That would have the secondary benefit of stopping the people who continually post useless cr4p just to get their post count up to 10
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I agree... To a point, the problem is to get RD ir RC you have to post guides or dev work... Which normally should go in the development section.
It really is a hard one and nothing will ever please all
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I'm not so sure that an invite system would be neccesary... just have a simple I agree site that gives access to the dev forums and the halfwits who go through that just to post where they shouldn't could then be banned and do everyone in these forums a favor!
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GinkgoBiloba said:
I'm not so sure that an invite system would be neccesary... just have a simple I agree site that gives access to the dev forums and the halfwits who go through that just to post where they shouldn't could then be banned and do everyone in these forums a favor!
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Umm, if you would propose that everyone who doesnt post in the correct section should be banned, then OP, you are kinda
stepping on your own feet...
As this thread belongs in About XDA...
As stated before, there doesn't seem to be a "one rule pleases all" compromise...
zacthespack said:
I agree... To a point, the problem is to get RD ir RC you have to post guides or dev work... Which normally should go in the development section.
It really is a hard one and nothing will ever please all
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Well, for RC, you don't *necessarily* need to create threads, and that too, in the dev section...
Afaik, guides belong to the general section, but there are also accepted in the dev section if it is directly related to development, or is there to prevent non-dev posts in dev area...
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Yeah I can appreciate your sentiment but it's not a workable solution. Honestly I don't even think there's a problem, the mods are on their game and the 10 post rule helped weed out some people.

orangekid said:
Yeah I can appreciate your sentiment but it's not a workable solution. Honestly I don't even think there's a problem, the mods are on their game and the 10 post rule helped weed out some people.
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Actually, there must be something to keep them out of OT too, as n00bs come there frequently to increase their post count. I told two of them off today and I got ripped off for being a "party pooper". Sometimes, I wonder why I even bother.
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I just think if its important enough to keep the dev posts clean that they will lock them and then we get all the posts *****ing about misposts (worse then the mispost itself) then why not try something a little more locked down... why would a user like myself need access to post in a dev forum for?
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GinkgoBiloba said:
I just think if its important enough to keep the dev posts clean that they will lock them and then we get all the posts *****ing about misposts (worse then the mispost itself) then why not try something a little more locked down... why would a user like myself need access to post in a dev forum for?
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If you had frequent SODs you could up a logcat, it's very basic stuff and could potentially help the dev out.
Good ideas are always good, and i frequent the HD2 and Galaxy Nexus forums quite a bit, 2 of the busier dev forums, and don't really see problems with this.
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[Q] Which thread should I post for private development?

Hi,
I would like to check if any developers on XDA are interested for hire by me to do some private android app development.
Is such a request appropriate on XDA and if so, which, section/thread is the correct place to post it?
Thanks!
Dextroz

dextroz said:
Hi,
I would like to check if any developers on XDA are interested for hire by me to do some private android app development.
Is such a request appropriate on XDA and if so, which, section/thread is the correct place to post it?
Thanks!
Dextroz
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There isnt really a section for this, we are a community for developers to share work, not a place to find jobs.
Saying that some people do post when they need work done, your best bet if you want to stay around here is contribute and show off your skills then someone would likely come to you

Free hechoen

As some of you may or may not know Hechoen has received a ban from the forums. The ban is his first and is for ten days. The reason for the action was "Disrespectful attitude towards moderator." Some background follows. He was PM'd by a mod to remove his avatar within 48 hours. The mod seemed to think that it could be offensive to some members. His avatar has been around for a long time and was a cartoon of a guy giving the middle finger with the words "Censor this!". As we all know an avatar is an extension of your online personality. To get an idea of whether or not the community found it offensive he posted a question about it in the off-topic thread(that he created). He never named the mod or said anything "disrespectful" towards the mod. Within minutes the post was deleted and he was banned. So I ask any of you that think this action unfair to please respond here. Also feel free to PM a mod(or five) with a link to this thread. If others believe this to be unfair and we unite as a community maybe, just maybe, we'll make a difference.
Sincerely,
Beastmode

To any mods reading this, it would be nice to have a link to the avatar rules for the forums. Thanks.

He has been helping out here as
long as I have been around..always
seems to help where he can..sounds
like they used the avatar thing as an excuse...he has had that avatar as long as I remember... Mods cut him some slack...give him a warning and let it go....
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i might be somewhat a noob but hechoen has been on the sgs4g forums way before i joined and new what roms were he plays an importnd role in xda

Don't worry, the mods have heard our petition and hechoen will be unbanned in approximately 9 more days It's a problem with the forum software, we just can't make it unblock anyone faster than that.

wow really he has never been anything but nice to people ..../failpalm

maybe if i added a little neon effect or something, then it might just be a little appropriate? :banghead:
sent from within pure darkness

It is a good thing he was banned
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No. Hechoen is a good person. A finger is not offensive, it's what you associate the finger with.
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Not that I agree with the ban, but, wasn't he asking to be censored?

I don't know the guy personally but this isn't the first time a mod has abused their powers. Most don't, but then again what can you really do? Hope he's unbanned shortly. And to all the mods not on a power trip, please keep up the fine work we appreciate you.
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androidskillz said:
It is a good thing he was banned
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Why is that??? Please explain the comment.

CSP III said:
Why is that??? Please explain the comment.
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He's a menace to society! The more he helps people the more they'll keep coming back. It burdens all the devs 'cause people keep asking questions since they know they'll receive an answer.

hutson23 said:
Bad message....
Influencing others?
Come on...
What's he a role model now...?
That's a stupid statement...
What is the influence..to give people
the finger...grow-up dude !!
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It's the general principal. He got banned for the reason of portraying a bad image/message to others. Duh
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Thread Cleaned
Well, guess what folks?
This thread itself has been reported, and thus cleaned and closed.
XDA is a development forum, off topic discussion is allowed to some extent to afford users to create relationships that strengthen bonds and friendships that will, hopefully, lead towards a stronger development community and thus, possibly better product for the masses.
BUT you need to also understand the following post - some may have read this before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
That being said - this website, and the threads within, are really for development and the developers. Moderators are merely here to make sure that the aforementioned development, along with the published rules, are being abided by.
Regardless of whether moderators do the popular thing or not, we do what we do with sincere interest for the community as a whole. Users who want to challenge the rules and/or criticize what moderators do and try to incite others in this plight are ones who bring little value to this community. Additionally, and you most should be aware, there are plenty of social media websites available to sign petitions and to express your feelings, XDA is not one of them.
And, to refer to the about linked post by zelendel, no one made you come here. You agreed to be respectful in your posts, to be critical of moderators, who are also members, is also not allowed.
For those of you in here who have posted, good to meet you. I expect you all will try to exercise respect, humanity and dignity from here on out - wherever and whenever you post.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.