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[Q] ICS downgrade to HC: Is it worth it?

So. I am a moderately happy owner of a TF101. It was running ICS .17 and I had all sorts of issues with it, from RR to SOD to sound disappearing.
The SOD vanished when I set it to turn wifi off when screen was off, the sound and reboots were "fixed" by turning the device off if I expected to be more than 1 or 2 hours away from it.
However, I still experienced graphics corruption in some games (Angry Birds Space, Anomaly: Warzone Earth) and on the youtube app, to name the ones on the top of my head. I checked Wolf's guide to downgrade, rooted my TF101 and while I was waiting for the blob download to finish, Asus pushed the .21 FOTA on my tab.
I am a regular user who ran the device without root for 2 months, I have no special needs besides stability and no headaches.
So, the question is: was HC all that better? I mean Asus FW, WW 8.6.6.23. Was it really that much better than ICS to justify a downgrade?
EDIT: First milestone passed, 20 hours of uptime, no issues at all. So far, so good. I even noticed better video compatibility with some of my old divx4 and mpeg files
EDIT 2: 50 hours of uptime, no issues at all, games working perfectly (not a single crash or video corruption in Angry Birds Space). I am really really happy with the downgrade

Try one of the threads below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617290

Thanks for the reply
I know how to downgrade. What I really want to know is if it is worth the time.
Is the Asus Honeycomb firmware really much more stable and almost issues free?
Or people are just so pissed with the issues on ICS that they are overpraising HC?
I did not had the tablet with HC long enough to know on my own.

Most people just didn't wipe going to the latest version and think that flashing back to HC will fix all of their problems.
Really, if you are happy with ICS and SOD/RR's are at a minimum, definately stick with it. The features in ICS very much outweigh one or two less RR's a week.

Asked Man said:
I know how to downgrade. What I really want to know is if it is worth the time.
Is the Asus Honeycomb firmware really much more stable and almost issues free?
Or people are just so pissed with the issues on ICS that they are overpraising HC?
I did not had the tablet with HC long enough to know on my own.
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Yes, Honeycomb was that much more stable. As soon as I'm done testing for Asus, I will be going back to Honeycomb - it's rock solid.
Yu do need to downgrade via NVFlash, or the ICS problems persist, even in Hoenycomb...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
Yu do need to downgrade via NVFlash
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Then I am out of luck, mine is a B70, not sure of the SBK, but I believe it is incompatible.
Anyway, tried to downgrade using Wolf's method ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628 ) and testing now.
Will stick with it for at least a month to draw fair conclusions.
Let's see how that goes.

miketoasty said:
Most people just didn't wipe going to the latest version and think that flashing back to HC will fix all of their problems.
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That is exactly my belief. I wiped mine before going to ICS that seemed to fix my issues. My two main issues were battery drain & not deep sleeping. I never had a SOD & only a couple of random reboots.
Other people have reported that once they flash back to HC, they are having the same issues. I am with the belief that wiping is the key for some anyway.

jadesse said:
That is exactly my belief. I wiped mine before going to ICS that seemed to fix my issues. My two main issues were battery drain & not deep sleeping. I never had a SOD & only a couple of random reboots.
Other people have reported that once they flash back to HC, they are having the same issues. I am with the belief that wiping is the key for some anyway.
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Oh, believe me, I have wiped more times that I care to admit - believe me, wiping is NOT the solution!! Unless we are talking about more than one problem...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

In terms of wiping
I tried:
Factory reset at .17
factory reset, wipe, downgrade to .11 or whatever was before .17, then FOTA
same as above, but doing manual upgrade to .17
Of course I liked ICS and my tab was working, with a few caveats. I had more reboots before the wipe, but the deep sleep remained a problem and I had sound and video issues.
Not many, not frequent, but I definitely had. My son gave up on Angry birds space, as an example. Too many force closes. Not a game issue, since it ran fine on my xperia play. And so far, I got 3 stars on 12 stages, not a single issue, on my recently downgraded tf101.
I don't know, maybe ICS is still green, I heard people used to have issues with Asus HC as well in the beginning. Maybe I just like too much of things that just work. But so far, I haven't seen any of the issues I was having with ICS.
Time will tell.

Reached another milestone
120 hours of uptime, 3 people using the device. However, EA's monopoly stopped working after the 3rd day, so now I rebooted the tab to get it running back again.
It was a success, cleared every single issue I had, but I came to notice that after 3 or 4 days up, the tab starts to run slower than usual, taking longer to open programs, etc.
Anyway, the downgrade was successful and the tab works fine now. So, it was worth for me, since I want stock experience on the tab.

So you are using Wolf's method to downgrade? and to what ROM?
Which Wolf method do you use Root or not root?
If it's not NVFlash method that can solved SOD. I will follow you!!

Guys - you may want to hang on before downgrading - we're testing a new beta release from Asus (.24) and so far, things are looking really good... I have a feeling that the ICS RR/SOD issues will be a thing of the past really soon...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
Guys - you may want to hang on before downgrading - we're testing a new beta release from Asus (.24) and so far, things are looking really good... I have a feeling that the ICS RR/SOD issues will be a thing of the past really soon...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
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Hope it will get out soon!!

warlord234 said:
So you are using Wolf's method to downgrade? and to what ROM?
Which Wolf method do you use Root or not root?
If it's not NVFlash method that can solved SOD. I will follow you!!
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Yes, downgraded using the Method 1 - Rooted.
The ROM I am using is Stock HC WW 8.6.6.23, no modifications.
jtrosky said:
Guys - you may want to hang on before downgrading - we're testing a new beta release from Asus (.24) and so far, things are looking really good... I have a feeling that the ICS RR/SOD issues will be a thing of the past really soon...
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Maybe. I stuck with ICS from .11 up to .21 and I still had graphic corruption in games (mostly Angry Birds Space) and my touchscreen became less responsive. OTOH, on HC I get zero issues.
Don't get me wrong, I really liked ICS. There are some things that annoys me on HC, like the default browser not open new tabs on background. But I don't like to beta test stuff anymore, so I will stay on HC until the stock ICS has all the issues cleared.

See I'm a sort of flip to this, HC gave me all sorts of HELL, but when I wiped and went to ICS (Keep in mind I did use CWM to flash Rooted stock at the time, so I wiped Dalvik, Cache and Factory reset) from there it's been beautiful, I only got one SOD and the occasional screen tear. When I upgraded to an actual Dev rom (ARHD first, now I'm on AOK/SP) and put a modded kernel on, issues ceased to exist. So I'm really happy with ICS overall, even though my experience is Far from stock..

Thing O Doom said:
So I'm really happy with ICS overall, even though my experience is Far from stock..
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I came to notice that most people that are fully happy with ICS deviated from stock. I am still not planning to deviate from stock, but I might when I go back to ICS. I got my pad on january, still waiting for the 12 months warranty to expire before unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernels.

I hate to be this guy but...

Im just looking for a ICS rom that has all the goodies. I wanted AOKP but all their links are dead. Speed, extra features like overclocking and a clean customizable UI. Any suggestions? I had some issues getting this thing rooted today and Im half cross eyed. Im just dying to relax in front of the tube while setting up my new Tab.
Edit: I went with CM9 Stable Very happy so far

You can use my guide, link in signature. I added AOKP JB per your request (yes, the link works). I prefer CM10 over CM9. You'd think there'd be app incompatibility/availability issues, but nope. I haven't seen one app that's incompatible with JB.

Your awesome! Thank you. But I failed to mention I have a tab 7. I apologize for wasting your time.

Found you AOKP ICS for p3113 and AOKP JB for p3113.

IFLATLINEI said:
Im just looking for a ICS rom that has all the goodies. I wanted AOKP but all their links are dead. Speed, extra features like overclocking and a clean customizable UI. Any suggestions? I had some issues getting this thing rooted today and Im half cross eyed. Im just dying to relax in front of the tube while setting up my new Tab.
Edit: I went with CM9 Stable Very happy so far
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+1 on the CM9. use it on three out of 4 devices(4th not supported)
Coolest stuff around. Almost total freedom.

Thanks again Multiple. I may have to flash it tonight. Because I'm having an issue with Chrome where every time and only when I try to get into the settings menu it closes.

IFLATLINEI said:
Thanks again Multiple. I may have to flash it tonight. Because I'm having an issue with Chrome where every time and only when I try to get into the settings menu it closes.
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I have the Same problem with chrome does anyone else encountered this too?

Yeah. There was a whole thread about it a few weeks ago.

That's a bummer I'll look for it. So then it will probably also be an issue with AOKP as well
I'm assuming.

[Q] Best Rom for MT4GS

Hi I just bought my MT4GS a couple of days ago, I upgraded from a Mytouch 3g (SuperCSVI 4.0), I also want to modify this phone. Im looking for a rom that is stable, depenable, and fast. The development forms dosn't seem to be makeing much progress with jellybean other than wildchilds VanillaBean. Also I would help alot if it were Sense 4+. Can anybody help?

It sounds like you just described Virtuous Inquisition.

WeekendsR2Short said:
It sounds like you just described Virtuous Inquisition.
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I have read about the rom, although I also read some complaints over it.

lifebound said:
I have read about the rom, although I also read some complaints over it.
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Its like this man, straight and to the point without being mean. You are not going to find ANY 100% solid ROM that no one has a complaint over. We have 2 ROMS based on Stock OTA Updates that's it. Everything else is a port of this or that or a build from source.
So you ask what do I gain if ROM X has this broken and ROM XX has this broken, well we have gained 2 updates past what HTC wanted us to have along with many more features, all while losing 1080 recording only.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2

strapped365 said:
Its like this man, straight and to the point without being mean. You are not going to find ANY 100% solid ROM that no one has a complaint over. We have 2 ROMS based on Stock OTA Updates that's it. Everything else is a port of this or that or a build from source.
So you ask what do I gain if ROM X has this broken and ROM XX has this broken, well we have gained 2 updates past what HTC wanted us to have along with many more features, all while losing 1080 recording only.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2
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I understand what your saying, not even the stock roms are perfect either. thanks for explaining though. How about in this way then, what is the most stable and fastest, with the fewest bugs?

Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium

Just be sure and go to my mirror thread here in my signature and flash the Unofficial All Inclusive Patch along with it. It makes ALL the difference.

CM9.1 found in ROM Manager. Sense = bloatware
Sent from Spaceball One.

blackknightavalon said:
CM9.1 found in ROM Manager. Sense = bloatware
Sent from Spaceball One.
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I love Sense. For me, the Sense ROMS like VI or MikXE (the one I'm running now) are far more stable and capable than CM9.

They both have their virtues but I'm like you and do love sense. I'm pretty impartial when it comes to either. I just enjoy being amazed at the capabilites of the developers' works that we all take advantage of and yet often critisize. I know I couldn't do what they do.

r1tesh said:
Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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I had trouble finding the download link for 1.33 alpha 3. Finally found it here at Rootz (traced it from XDA through several pages at VirtuousRom.com and then finally to Rootz).
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Just be sure and go to my mirror thread here in my signature and flash the Unofficial All Inclusive Patch along with it. It makes ALL the difference.
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I assume this "all-inclusive" patch should be flashed AFTER upgrading to 1.35 beta 1?

OH yes. ROM.....OTA...then patch it all.

Need some help from you doubleshot-experienced folk, please!
r1tesh said:
Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
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Where can I find this kernel? I'm looking and am not finding it. I'm trying to mimic your "everything works" setup and I think I've gotten what you said to get except for the kernel. I currently have 3.0.17-Don2x-gecb4581 and am experiencing the following two problems which seem to be very possibly kernel-related (otherwise I wouldn't bother):
1) Device randomly reports no signal when it should have a signal (either toggling Airplane Mode or a reboot always fixes this). Clearly, in this state, data, voice, and SMS do not work, which is quite problematic.
2) Battery randomly reports ~half of the capacity that it's really at (rebooting always fixes this). It's kinda strange - charging it overnight will only charge to 49%. But once you reboot it then it's magically at ~95%. (Yes, I've cleared battery stats.) And it seems to be fairly sporadic - doesn't always do this. Like I said, it's strange...
Also, what baseband should I be on? It's currently reporting 11.59.3504.00P_11.16.3504.20_2.
Lastly, for my "Build number", even though I've flashed the 1.35 beta 1 zip and running the OTA update APK, it still reports as "Virtuous Infinity v1.33.0 Alpha3". Is this right? Seems strange to me. Running the OTA Update apk again states that "The ROM developer has not enabled support for the OTA Updater! Please ask them (kindly) to add support before using this app! (otaupdater.otaid value empty or missing)".
If I've done something wrong, all of the above are the indications of such mistakes. Many thanks!

I don't know what happened unless you maybe got a corrupt download. The Mirrors, Tools.... thread in my sign. will give you another DL site. Post #3 Developer #2
That's the same Radio I have except mine is "00U" instead of "00P" . And that is the way the build reads on mine too. I think the Alpha designation tells the tale tho. Just try a full wipe and a reflash of new DL's. This has been one of the smoothest most solid ROMs I've run once it was patched. I HAVE heard of a couple of phones that didn't seem to like the all inclusive patch though. You might try just flashing those patches as a problem arises and you may get better responses from them. Kinda just a guess tho....

When I want fast, and stable, I go with Virtuous Inquisition. That one has the best day to day user experience for me. The only thing I miss with that ROM is the 1080P camcorder, and my stock camera with face detection, and burst shot that works etc.. The Brute Force TV Out add on is definitely not as good as the stock TV out and I miss that when using the Inquisition ROM as well. However, Inquisition is such a nice user experience that I use is often and keep a good nandroid of it. Even the hardware keyboard works the way I want it to include the Alt and CAPs lights.
When I really want to carry that good camera around and have TV out so I can bring Netflix to a friend's house that doesn't have Netflix, I still find myself booting up Bulletproof 1.0 (Before the green invasion). In that ROM I replaced all the pink apps with the "de-pinked" ones (Lockscreen, Contacts, Messages, Calendar etc.), changed the color of the pink message bubbles (ya know the ones that pop up with a number to tell you how many unread texts you have) to blue and I find this ROM to be nice stable user experience with some extra tweaks and extended power menu thanks to the groundwork laid out by RomanBB and then carried on by Blue6IX.
I'm keeping an eye on the MikTouch ROM based on the updated OTA stock ROM. That is a very smooth stock experience and I really appreciate that the developer (developers?) are still giving the Stock ROM some love and I feel it has great potential for those who don't want to lose ANY of the features that made this phone worth buying in the first place. Personally, I feel the hardware keyboard, camera, and TV out were the main reasons I bought this phone and I'm not willing to give those features up and switch to any other ROM full time regardless of how cool they look or how smooth they run.
I think the hard work by all the developers trying to give MT4GS more enhancements and options is amazing stuff and much appeciated, but Bulletproof and Inquisition are still my favorites at the moment. Unfortunately, neither project sees any further development so take it as it is, don't take it at all, or see what you can do to make them better for yourself.
Oh and if you want the ROM with the best battery life, it's the one with a Mugen 3600 battery...just sayin'. I have no complaints about battery life of any ROM with Mugen under the hood.
[UPDATE] MIkTouch is now my favored stock ROM choice.

siani_8 said:
...and if you want the ROM with the best battery life, it's the one with a Mugen 3600 battery...just sayin'. I have no complaints about battery life of any ROM with Mugen under the hood.
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Exactly. The only thing that was stopping me from using the CM7 Alpha was that the SD card wouldn't read.

well in regard to this post. i installed Jelly Bean(Vanilla Bean) rom on to mt4gs last night it has good potentioal but it is lackiing in alot places. i was previously using cyanogenmod9 alpha6 i believe and before i was using virtous 1.33 Alpha 3. however i wanted to know in your professional opinions are there any roms for MT4GS i should try. side note jelly bean is fast but cant use stock android keyboard, so i had to download from market those siine and swift keyboard apps to work also the rom is very twitchy. my mt4gs is with S-On. any opinions are welcome thank you.

One of those is a beta and one an alpha. Great work but not quite complete. There are several really great ROMs out there waiting to be tried. All you hvae to do is make a backup of the one you're on and check a few out. Try a few that are actual releases (you should be able to tell from the title) and see what you like. It's ALWAYS the best way.

Critical_DoubleShot said:
well in regard to this post. i installed Jelly Bean(Vanilla Bean) rom on to mt4gs last night it has good potentioal but it is lackiing in alot places. i was previously using cyanogenmod9 alpha6 i believe and before i was using virtous 1.33 Alpha 3. however i wanted to know in your professional opinions are there any roms for MT4GS i should try. side note jelly bean is fast but cant use stock android keyboard, so i had to download from market those siine and swift keyboard apps to work also the rom is very twitchy. my mt4gs is with S-On. any opinions are welcome thank you.
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Why you don't use this rom:
Leaked ROM 1.63.531.2 / Radio 11.59.3504.00_11.16.3504.20_2: (Full PG59IMG.zip)
form here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254518
To S-Off go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17424340&postcount=24
or you can use this form virtuosrom:
[MT4GS][ROM][21-05-2012][Virtuous Primadonna v1.17.0 Alpha 3] Sense 4A - 4.0.3
Anyway, install Titanium backup and remove what u want; thats all.

lifebound said:
Hi I just bought my MT4GS a couple of days ago, I upgraded from a Mytouch 3g (SuperCSVI 4.0), I also want to modify this phone. Im looking for a rom that is stable, depenable, and fast. The development forms dosn't seem to be makeing much progress with jellybean other than wildchilds VanillaBean. Also I would help alot if it were Sense 4+. Can anybody help?
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Ive been searching for a solid rom since I got my phone in late November. Out of the 6 or so roms I have downloaded the most common problems are.
1) Software keyboard doesnt work.
2) USB File copying either doesnt work, requires a paid app or is very slow.
3) Battery drains faster or wont fully charge.
4) GPS becomes hit or miss
5) Support for promising roms suddenly stop, making you wait for someone else to port another rom which has almost the same sort of problems.
Most of the roms are stable, they are missing some critical things.

[Q] Sick of 2.3.4. Looking for something more fun.

Hey guys, been a fan of XDA for years, infinite amounts of knowledge here it seems, and I know nothing. While I could spend years reading all the posts and searching, I figured some of the more knowledgable members may be able to answer a couple quick questions without giving me TOO big of a hard time.
I have had my G2x for about a year which is running 2.3.4, March 2011 baseband. I used to own a G1 and a Motorola Cliq and had experimented with rooting it. I am looking for something new and different, as I'm kind of sick of regular old GB. There is so much knowledge here, and on some ROMs 100's of pages of stuff to read, which unfortuantely most of which I find confusing. I know nothing about baseband versions, radios, etc. I plan on researching a lot of these things, as thats obviously the only way to learn.
My Fiance and I both have the G2x, and are both needing to be hard reset and they're running slowly and the battery seems to be draining faster and faster. I planned to do a hard reset this weekend, but figured I may experiment with rooting and custom roms. If you guys can answer some questions for me, I'd greatly appreiciate it! I know that all this information is likely out there, although I feel completely lost and overwhelmed, unsure where to begin. I had the following questions.
If I decide to root the phone, and try different roms am I always able to "unroot" the phone and bring it back to factory just as it is now? Is this general rooting guide good for 2.3.4? Can I root without loading a custom Rom? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594650
I had been noticing that with Hellfire Sandwhich, and EaglesBlood there are some known issues, like bluetooth I believe, but I'm having a hard time seeing what isn't working currently. I would like to try ICS, but want something stable where I'm not going to experience a lot of programs not working. I don't do a lot on my phone but would like all the little things to work. How would I find "current bugs" or something similar, as there are hundreds of posts I can't seem to find the information.
Is there a certain rom that most people recommend for ICS that is more stable, possible CM?
How common is it to completely brick your phone, if you're not an idiot and follow instructions?
I was told when I bought the phone that it would receive ICS OTA, but this seems debateable. Am I better off waiting to see if this happens, or what do you guys recommend?
I'm sorry this seems like a stupid post, and that I haven't done any reading, because I have, I'm just confused as hell. I REALLY appreciate everyone's help! I've always enjoying messing with phones, although there is just too much to it with Radios, baseband, kernels, all of which I know nothing about, and mean nothing to me at this point. THANKS guys!

That guide will work for you. The good news is that the G2x is close to impossible to brick (it can be done, but definitely takes some talent). NVflash can be used 98% of the time to fix your phone.
As far as ROMs go, you have to experiment. Every G2x is different, and handle different setups differently. With that being said, Kwes's rooted stock ROM fixed a lot of the problems I had with my G2x. If you're bored with stock, most CM7 based ROMs are very stable. As far as ICS goes, Genesis was always my favorite, and the most reliable for me. I recently started playing with Paranoid Android CM9, and so far it works great, and provides a really unique experience.
Just read the first few posts of every ROM and it should provide you with most of the information you need to make a good decision. Hope this helps, and happy flashing!
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

I've tried pretty much every ROM available (save for quite a few GB ROMs and two JB ROMs), and I feel that the CM10 Paranoid Android is the smoothest ROM available. Every ICS ROM is smooth when you first install it (and I especially love all the features in Domination and Genesis), but after a week or so of use, your phone will start lagging again. With PA, lag is at a minimum. I was on CM9 PA last before getting sick of lag before switching to a GB ROM for a month or so, then decided to finally try out CM10 PA because I just missed flashing new ROMs and I was very impressed. CM10 version runs WAY better than CM9.

I just rooted my phone about 1 week ago and used the guide that the OP posted..everything worked great...I'm currently running hellfire 2.3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420972&highlight=hellfire+2+3) and freaking loving it...sooo much better than stock...basically follow the directions from the thread you posted and you'll be fine...

It depends on how important it is to you to have good picture quality with your phone. Even though this phone doesn't have the greatest camera, the stock camera is the best. If you flash to a CM ROM the quality is horrible. I love the performance of CM, but the camera quality was a deal breaker for me.
I ended up trying some stock 2.3.3 roms, but I have ended up back on my rooted stock running 2.3.4 with some tweaks from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806868&highlight=tweaks and I am running faux's 14b2 kernel. With these two things my phone runs really good.

skarookidoo said:
It depends on how important it is to you to have good picture quality with your phone. Even though this phone doesn't have the greatest camera, the stock camera is the best. If you flash to a CM ROM the quality is horrible. I love the performance of CM, but the camera quality was a deal breaker for me.
I ended up trying some stock 2.3.3 roms, but I have ended up back on my rooted stock running 2.3.4 with some tweaks from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806868&highlight=tweaks and I am running faux's 14b2 kernel. With these two things my phone runs really good.
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You know that there is a port of the original lg cam for cm7 right?

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I've tried pretty much every ROM available (save for quite a few GB ROMs and two JB ROMs), and I feel that the CM10 Paranoid Android is the smoothest ROM available. Every ICS ROM is smooth when you first install it (and I especially love all the features in Domination and Genesis), but after a week or so of use, your phone will start lagging again. With PA, lag is at a minimum. I was on CM9 PA last before getting sick of lag before switching to a GB ROM for a month or so, then decided to finally try out CM10 PA because I just missed flashing new ROMs and I was very impressed. CM10 version runs WAY better than CM9.
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Do you have a link to the CM10 Paranoid Android you're referring to? I was able to find http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891480 which says it's CM10, although says alpha and hackfest stating it's buggy. The other version that I found was CM9. Is this the version you're saying is the smoothest?

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Do you have a link to the CM10 Paranoid Android you're referring to? I was able to find http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891480 which says it's CM10, although says alpha and hackfest stating it's buggy. The other version that I found was CM9. Is this the version you're saying is the smoothest?
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That's the one. It's no less buggy than any ICS ROM if that's the flavor your going for. CM10 is smoother than CM9. At least in my experience. Does anyone else want to chime in?

The only thing that took me back to CM9 was the battery drain issue on CM10.
On a different note: my phone only likes stock ROMs, but I recent found out about Weapon a New Clip, and it is pretty sweet, and just as reliable as anything else I've ever used
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

CM10 Paranoid looks soo beautiful and I'm really tempted to try it out, but I have a really good thing going on right now with the hellfire...it's super stable and smooth plus I have a ics theme on it so that keeps things fresh for me. I do have one question for those on CM10 Paranoid. Is it stable enough that you can run the 4.2 gapps or any themes/launchers on it??

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You know that there is a port of the original lg cam for cm7 right?
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I know I tried it. Not a whole lot of difference. I had my wife's stock g2x to do a side by side comparison. I was hoping it would be better.

Unrooting and bringing back to stock.
Hey guys, I rooted my phone and installed Hellfire sandwhich about a month ago. The rom seemed to run good at first, and progressively get slower. I just picked up a Nexus 7 and have no desire to run custom roms on my phone anymore as the tablet has all the bells and whistles, therefore at this point i want to bring my phone back to original condition.
I used this guide to root my phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1594650 and installed HFS from there. I am looking at threads to unroot and some of them are using ADB. The first thing that I did is to load my Nandroid backup from when I oringinally rooted my phone, and I am receiving the message saying "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!". I have gone to this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714114, but I am unable to access my phone via ADB, as it's saying "Error: Device not found". I have tried to boot into CWM and plug the phone in there, but appears that all my drivers are not loading - http://puu.sh/1JH8J and it's still saying device not found. I have tried enabling USB debugging, as well as turning it off. When I plug the phone in, I only have the option of "Media Device (MTP)" or "Camera (PTP), no "charge only" option under "USB Computer Connection".
I am unsure what to do at this point. I have installed the "LGUnitedMobileDriver S4981MAN38AP22 ML WHQL Ver 3.8.1" drivers and still receiving the same error. Sorry if this has been addressed, as I'm sure it has, but can someone point me in the right direction. Thank you!

Tr33x0rs said:
Hey guys, I rooted my phone and installed Hellfire sandwhich about a month ago. The rom seemed to run good at first, and progressively get slower. I just picked up a Nexus 7 and have no desire to run custom roms on my phone anymore as the tablet has all the bells and whistles, therefore at this point i want to bring my phone back to original condition.
I used this guide to root my phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1594650 and installed HFS from there. I am looking at threads to unroot and some of them are using ADB. The first thing that I did is to load my Nandroid backup from when I oringinally rooted my phone, and I am receiving the message saying "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!". I have gone to this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714114, but I am unable to access my phone via ADB, as it's saying "Error: Device not found". I have tried to boot into CWM and plug the phone in there, but appears that all my drivers are not loading - http://puu.sh/1JH8J and it's still saying device not found. I have tried enabling USB debugging, as well as turning it off. When I plug the phone in, I only have the option of "Media Device (MTP)" or "Camera (PTP), no "charge only" option under "USB Computer Connection".
I am unsure what to do at this point. I have installed the "LGUnitedMobileDriver S4981MAN38AP22 ML WHQL Ver 3.8.1" drivers and still receiving the same error. Sorry if this has been addressed, as I'm sure it has, but can someone point me in the right direction. Thank you!
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Have you tried this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274 and unroot with SuperOneClick or whatever.
OP have you tried an MIUI based ROM? That's always been a bit of a different experience for me.

footwork* said:
Have you tried this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274 and unroot with SuperOneClick or whatever.
OP have you tried an MIUI based ROM? That's always been a bit of a different experience for me.
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I have tried this, and that's when I'm receiving the "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!" error after choosing to restore.

Tr33x0rs said:
I have tried this, and that's when I'm receiving the "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!" error after choosing to restore.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835914

im so sick!!!
partylikeaninjastar said:
I've tried pretty much every ROM available (save for quite a few GB ROMs and two JB ROMs), and I feel that the CM10 Paranoid Android is the smoothest ROM available. Every ICS ROM is smooth when you first install it (and I especially love all the features in Domination and Genesis), but after a week or so of use, your phone will start lagging again. With PA, lag is at a minimum. I was on CM9 PA last before getting sick of lag before switching to a GB ROM for a month or so, then decided to finally try out CM10 PA because I just missed flashing new ROMs and I was very impressed. CM10 version runs WAY better than CM9.
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I'm sick of gingerbread!
I want sum different. I've had eaglesblood 2.3.4 for years on my g2x and I have tried
Hellfire - works for a while then stuff goes wrong after a wk or so
Tried ICS - stuff is always wrong
On MIUI - and simple stuff is not working after days
I have been flashing phones for a very long time and all the ROMs above I have flashed over n over again and the fact still remains. They DONT Work!
I'm about to flash my eaglesblood back because that's the only thing that works the longest wit no bugs.
is there anything available besides eaglesblood that's stable?
geesh!!

intrygue83 said:
I'm sick of gingerbread!
I want sum different. I've had eaglesblood 2.3.4 for years on my g2x and I have tried
Hellfire - works for a while then stuff goes wrong after a wk or so
Tried ICS - stuff is always wrong
On MIUI - and simple stuff is not working after days
I have been flashing phones for a very long time and all the ROMs above I have flashed over n over again and the fact still remains. They DONT Work!
I'm about to flash my eaglesblood back because that's the only thing that works the longest wit no bugs.
is there anything available besides eaglesblood that's stable?
geesh!!
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I think Marie Antoinette said, If they don't like Gingerbread then let them eat cake, or something similar.

[Q] Most Stable JB Rom?

Hi, I was wondering what in your opinion is the most stable JB rom? My parents and I all have a Skyrcocket, and they have been on CM9 for a while now. They don't know much about how to use their phones, so that is why I got them a stable version of CM9 last summer, while I have been on JB since it came out.
I have tried a wide variety of JB roms, but I know how to use them all well and what to do in case of most issues, even minor ones such as having no connectivity on reboot. My parents however get really confused when stuff like this happens, and don't even think to reboot, even though I have told them about how to fix it numerous times. On the CM9 they have, stuff like this never happens and it all is pretty stable.
However, my mom recently started having random problems on CM9, so i upgraded her to the latest stable CM10 and installed gapps, UCLK4 radio, which works the best for me, and lightning zap kernel. Now she is having weird problems like her camera not working due to the error 'no external storage present,' which i have encountered on another jb rom before, and reflashed a different one to fix it. i just tried slim bean 3.1 for a while to test for her, and i get weird stuff like the no connectivity on boot issue i mentioned before, which can be fixed with a reboot, but is too big of a problem for my parents to handle. i also tried cm9 the latest nightly just yesterday, and am experiencing some weird minor issues as well.
i even thought about going back to ics, although she would prefer to upgrade if possible. and i thought about flashing the latest att jb leak, but i figured that would most likely have even more issues, haha.
so does anyone think there is a jb rom out now that is as stable as cm9 ics was? thanks!

Just put them back to stock. You're nuts putting a custom rom on someone's phone who isn't into the issues they have. They all have something that doesn't work as you'd expect.
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I think you have to read through the threads and see which one(s) fit your needs best, then try those ROMs for yourself instead of starting a best thread.

jd1639 said:
Just put them back to stock. You're nuts putting a custom rom on someone's phone who isn't into the issues they have. They all have something that doesn't work as you'd expect.
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I'm with you, i like official roms, I personally like HTC phones before using my skyrocket (ROMS work great on HTC and stock ROMS are also great), the official ICS on skyrocket sucks big time (to laggy), but I still like it better than custom.
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onearmedscissor said:
Hi, I was wondering what in your opinion is the most stable JB rom? My parents and I all have a Skyrcocket, and they have been on CM9 for a while now. They don't know much about how to use their phones, so that is why I got them a stable version of CM9 last summer, while I have been on JB since it came out.
I have tried a wide variety of JB roms, but I know how to use them all well and what to do in case of most issues, even minor ones such as having no connectivity on reboot. My parents however get really confused when stuff like this happens, and don't even think to reboot, even though I have told them about how to fix it numerous times. On the CM9 they have, stuff like this never happens and it all is pretty stable.
However, my mom recently started having random problems on CM9, so i upgraded her to the latest stable CM10 and installed gapps, UCLK4 radio, which works the best for me, and lightning zap kernel. Now she is having weird problems like her camera not working due to the error 'no external storage present,' which i have encountered on another jb rom before, and reflashed a different one to fix it. i just tried slim bean 3.1 for a while to test for her, and i get weird stuff like the no connectivity on boot issue i mentioned before, which can be fixed with a reboot, but is too big of a problem for my parents to handle. i also tried cm9 the latest nightly just yesterday, and am experiencing some weird minor issues as well.
i even thought about going back to ics, although she would prefer to upgrade if possible. and i thought about flashing the latest att jb leak, but i figured that would most likely have even more issues, haha.
so does anyone think there is a jb rom out now that is as stable as cm9 ics was? thanks!
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Install official ICS to them, no more problems, but on the downside, a lot of lag will be present!!!

From the moderator
DO your research on this as it really is a personal decision. As stated by others all roms have something that is buggy. My personal take if they are not into customizing but want good battery life, and the basics to work well and do not need a bunch of bells and whistles you might try AOKP roms as they work well and are easy to configure for a novice.
That said, there are way to many "Best rom" threads..... So
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