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Preview of the G1-Dream ROM

Ok guys, the ROM it's not much customized, there is inside just the HTC YouTube player, for the rest it seems a clean Android base system.
Some screenshot:
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Does this ROM will work in other HTC devices?
Thanks

oh man how do you get these things?

orb3000 said:
Does this ROM will work in other HTC devices?
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It's very difficult because the ROM it's de facto a linux system with his initrd, totally different from our actual HTC ROM.

there is an sdk for android.. jus google it and u will be sure to find it

did you take those screenshots?

If I buy the HTC Dream in Taiwan,
with a traditional chinese ROM,
do you think it will be easier to flash the ROM compared to windows mobile?
I usually wanted to buy a HTC Touch Pro in Taiwan,
but if flashing the ROM doesn't work right,
the phone is waistet money.
But Android is open, so it will be easy no?

i'm happy to see you are working on this i like this OS and want to have it running on my Polaris instead the R1 Syrius .
Thanks for the work you made.

Ignore this post

if you guy want to run a sample
i gave instruction in my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432505
it doesn't have all the things his rom has but it works and looks the same

I remember time when I tried to put Linux mandrake on my laptop 5 years ago. It was disaster and a lot of headake during 5 month before I could get drivers for integrated ATI 3D chip and AMD cool n quite module. So I guess you need to bee big pro to make all neccessary drivers for each device to make android working , for example on Polaris

whitealien said:
I remember time when I tried to put Linux mandrake on my laptop 5 years ago. It was disaster and a lot of headake during 5 month before I could get drivers for integrated ATI 3D chip and AMD cool n quite module. So I guess you need to bee big pro to make all neccessary drivers for each device to make android working , for example on Polaris
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On your laptop, why don't you just get a LiveCD or LiveDVD? Runs the entire operating system off of a disc, no need to install anything. Just boot up, choose "boot from CD" and you're good to go. Linux = Godly

Black93300ZX said:
On your laptop, why don't you just get a LiveCD or LiveDVD? Runs the entire operating system off of a disc, no need to install anything. Just boot up, choose "boot from CD" and you're good to go. Linux = Godly
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5 years ago there was not live CDs

There were live CDs as long ago as 8 years. Knoppix was one of the first (and best).
Linux has come a long way since then. As long as you're not buying serial-number "1" of any piece of hardware, you should be ok nowadays.

whitealien said:
5 years ago there was not live CDs
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LOL. I remember running a live linux LCD in 1995

cr2 said:
LOL. I remember running a live linux LCD in 1995
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Yggdrasil! (sucked)

Virtual keyboard
hey is that a virtual keyboard that you designed for the android OS, or is that stock, cause the g1 isnt released with a virtual keyboard, and sure looks like one.... and it looks really nice...

Yeah where does this virtual keyboard comes from ??? it looks very very good but it's the first time I see it.

xspeed9190 said:
so lets say i was able to get my hands on a G1 now, what exactly would you guys need. I might work for a company that will sell the g1 oct 22. and random store mangers where given the phone ALREADY to use secretly.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2737709&postcount=1093
Posted in the android for kaiser development thread.

[Q] Use Thunderbolt as a pc? is it possible?

Wanted to know if theirs a way or if somone has already done this.Connect a Monitor, mouse and keyboard to their phones somehow and use phone as a portable pc. would be cool. maybe possible with right drivers? maybe bluetooth mouse/keyboard.

Not that I've ever heard of... I've heard of people getting various linux distros going but not so much on the using it as a mini pc

If you have a PC, use PhoneMyPC. Works perfect and can use multiple PCs.
If you don't have a PC, use "Always On PC."
Edit: Just re-read your post. I don't think there's a way.. I did see a commercial for a phone that plugs into a laptop "dock" though that seemed to be a lot like what you're looking for. Can't remember what its called though.

Linux would be a running as a PC. It is a fully functional OS.
Not you fat Jesus

00negative said:
Linux would be a running as a PC. It is a fully functional OS.
Not you fat Jesus
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I meant to satisfy the OP's desire to use external mouse/keyboard. I haven't seen that, have you?

It already is a computer (and I would consider it a personal computer with a few limitations such as not having the processing power and harder to port software). You can ssh into it all you want and use any shell you want, though have fun compiling from the source for things or finding precompiled ARM binaries that work on android. There's tutorials out there about how to install ARM linux distros like debian on android as well as x-windows so you can have a pretty GUI desktop, but you will lose the functionality of it being a phone while it's running instead of android os.

If you are want to dock it and make it into like a laptop, i suggest you go for the ATRIX. I believe thats the only phone available in the market.
However the dock is gonna cost you the same if not more than the phone off plan.

thanks for replies. was just wonderin if i could. had extra monitor, keyboad and mouse laying around and just wanted to know if i could do it just incase somone was on my pc and i needed a quick backup or somthing to mess with. thanks yall.

MisterDonut said:
If you are want to dock it and make it into like a laptop, i suggest you go for the ATRIX. I believe thats the only phone available in the market.
However the dock is gonna cost you the same if not more than the phone off plan.
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atrix is just a hack though. it runs a version of ubuntu stored on the phone dock (not even on the phone itself). At that point you might as well just buy a cheap eepc netbook for 200 or so dollars.

techspecs said:
I meant to satisfy the OP's desire to use external mouse/keyboard. I haven't seen that, have you?
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Ah I see what you mean, don't think I have but don't see why it wouldn't be possible if someone really had a desire to try and know how to make it happen.
But have seen Ubuntu run an on screen keyboard on a tablet.
Don't think it would be real user friendly to use keyboard and mouse on such a small screen though
Not you fat Jesus

I wish it was, but I don't think it is possible. I wanted to turn a LED projector to a a HUD display so I could watch football games on the HUD in my car. Or use it to browse the internet. But for that to happen we would need some kind of mirror display, or so I understand, and given that we don't have hdmi, I don't think it is possible. Maybe our awesome devs can come up with something for us though. (or atleast one could hope.)

Just a followup, if the OP really wants to, you can dual boot into debian on your phone and run xwindows with a couple various GUIs (such as XDE, which is pretty similar to gnome). After that, you can ssh (via wifi) into it and use a vncserver (over the ssh connection) installed on the phone to remotely connect to xwindows and see it on a monitor. When you want to use your phone as a phone again, you just reboot back into android as you would boot from linux to windows on your pc.
Debian maintains all the packages available for x86 on ARM so you'll find plenty of stuff without having to compile.
For those that don't know ubuntu is basically debian with a few extra packages and generally newer packages. Same filesystem, etc. Debian has been maintaining one of the oldest distributions of linux for ARM so I recommend it for that for the amount of documentation you'll find.
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http://www.androidfanatic.com/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=2248
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/03/msg01555.html
http://lanrat.com/android/debian
http://inportb.com/2010/10/17/debian-packages-on-android-phones/
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Android
Whenever I trade in my phone for something new, I plan on sticking ARM debian on it and remove android to make it a nice little mobile linux server via the wifi built into it doing the methods listed above.

I think there are two types of approaches to this:
Video Out/HDMI
and
USB Display Adapter
Video Out/HDMI (requires HDMI and CM6/7):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038840
w/ video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbm0JhGVxCA
USB Display Adapter with USB host/OTG support:
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
w/ video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-bLOc1qnMM
The Thunderbolt does not have HDMI out (nor will it ever) OR USB/OTG mode (yet).
The prospects are daunting. I think CM will get on board with desktop support at some point, but it won't include phones that lack HDMI out.
I think there is a lack of enthusiasm for this type of feature too. Just my opinion. I wish there was more enthusiasm, because I really feel desktop support is the future of smart phones.
I wish Google would dump Chrome OS and push desktop support in the next version of Android and make certain all hardware supports OTG and HDMI simultaneously. GS2 fails in that department since the HDMI port and USB share the same port (MHL).

[Request] Samsung Ativ Q Win8/Android integration ported to Surface Pro?

Do you think is it possible to have this Windows 8/Android integration:
http://www.engadget.com/video/viddler/ac514577/
on Surface Pro? I think it's a sort of Bluestacks modded by Samsung, it's not a dual boot system.
It would be fantastic (at least for me)

That looks pretty cool. ..it would be great if it was more reliable than bluestacks, that way I could reliably run epocrates and pleco.
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Actually it is supposedly running android natively according to Samsung. no idea how they are achieving that, my guess is that they got android to play nicely with Hyper-V or something and it does a full screen virtualisation (which with hyperV + haswell will still perform like a high end android tablet). Not a conventional dual boot though.
If there was some definate information about how it was done then it may well work on the surface pro too.

I think there's no virtual machine..
Seeing the amazing performace, I suppose it can be a sort of chroot executed under windows.
The presence of a kernel that supports the Core processors in Android, makes me think that no hardware is virtualized and that the instruction are executed natively in a protected area as it happens with chroot.
It wuold be awsome having the possibility to install all this on every pc in the world.
The best of the two worlds 8Q__

I'm not sure you understand how chroot works... or how operating systems in general do, actually. Android is built on top of the Linux kernel. Leaving aside the fact that Windows doesn't support chroot, chroot still requires a compatible kernel to handle system calls. Win32 system calls are different from the POSIX system calls that Linux uses. NT does have a POSIX subsystem, but it's not fully compatible with Linux (and isn't binary-compatible at all; programs need to be recompiled to run under it) and isn't included with any version of Win8 except Enterprise anyhow.
It's either a pure Dalvik runtime on x86 - which could exist, but would only execute programs that were purely Dalvik code and didn't use the native dev kit at all - or it's an Android VM of some sort (note: virtualization doesn't mean the performance is bad. You're confusing it with emulation). It's vaguely possible it runs on NT through some compatibility layer like Cygwin (except that requires recompiling) or LBW (which requires the aforementioned POSIX subsystem), but I doubt it. Android in Hyper-V seems by far the most likely to me.

It certainly has the hardware to support Hyper-V and if I were samsung that would be the route I would go down for 100% android compatibility.
This device seems far better to me than the asus transformer trio or whatever it was called. The asus device was just horribly disjointed, this seems closer to true android/windows 8 intercompatibility.

Maybe its like a backwards wine? e.g. run the linux system calls under windows? or maybe e.g. like colinux?

donbowman said:
Maybe its like a backwards wine? e.g. run the linux system calls under windows? or maybe e.g. like colinux?
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I don't believe that colinux has any x64 support, and it would require some rather significant reworking of Android's display layer.

@donbowman: The closest thing I know of to "backwards wine" is LBW, Linux Binaries on Windows. It's a very hacked-together and incomplete project which appears to now be abandoned, although I've considered working it myself from time to time. It requires the POSIX subsystem, which Microsoft has shown very little interest in continuing to support.

Any chance of an ARM chip in there?

yohojones said:
Any chance of an ARM chip in there?
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I haven't looked at the hardware at all but I seriously doubt it. It's far easier and cheaper to either emulate an ARM CPU on the x64 chip or just use Androidx86 or another similar distro.

I think they said in the unveil that it is running on the haswell.
Intel offer a variant of android to device manufacturers seperate from Android-IA. So far its only been available on clovertrail but it may well have been modified to run on haswell (and HyperV or something). But it includes a wrapper for the NDK which runs native code inside an ARM emulator, yet if an app has an x86 NDK binary is still capable of running that in x86 mode. Would make including an ARM core irrelevant.
Must say, loving the look of the Q. When its out perhaps someone will be able to take a closer look at how android is actually running (and it may well be a port of dalvik rather than emulating or virtualising android or a Linux compatibility layer, my bet is on virtualisation). Then chances are it will be able to be ported or duplicated on the pro.

This is definitely possible. Go check out this website.

Update: YMMV, but android-ia did not work properly for me. The touch screen didn't work, nor did wifi or bluetooth. ALSO, when I booted back into windows, auto rotation no longer works and in the charms menu (slide from right side of screen) I see "brightness" instead of "screen" and the icon changed from that of a screen to a sun (Surface Pro). So I would not recommend trying this. Maybe I did something wrong, but still.

Kraize said:
Update: YMMV, but android-ia did not work properly for me. The touch screen didn't work, nor did wifi or bluetooth. ALSO, when I booted back into windows, auto rotation no longer works and in the charms menu (slide from right side of screen) I see "brightness" instead of "screen" and the icon changed from that of a screen to a sun (Surface Pro). So I would not recommend trying this. Maybe I did something wrong, but still.
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its always said brightness.....
Android IA does not have a surface pro image so has no drivers for its touch or WiFi, that much is obvious.
Also for it to effect your windows partition you have done something wrong yourself, android cant do that to your windows partition.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
its always said brightness.....
Android IA does not have a surface pro image so has no drivers for its touch or WiFi, that much is obvious.
Also for it to effect your windows partition you have done something wrong yourself, android cant do that to your windows partition.
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Uhm, I don't know about you, but mine always showed a "screen" icon, not a brightness icon.
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Kraize said:
Uhm, I don't know about you, but mine always showed a "screen" icon, not a brightness icon.
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I dont own a touch device but on my desktop its a brightness slider (greyed out though)

Subscribed. It would indeed be awesome to have Ativ Q Android VM ported to Surface Pro. Anyone had luck with Android-IA?

Possible to install OS X on Asus T100?

Hi everyone!
There's a thread on getting Ubuntu running on the Asus T100 so I was wondering if it's possible to get OS X working as well.

tr0picana said:
Hi everyone!
There's a thread on getting Ubuntu running on the Asus T100 so I was wondering if it's possible to get OS X working as well.
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It comes down to driver support. There isn't currently any BayTrail OSX devices currently so there isn't any support/drivers for the hardware/chip. This means that in order to get OSX running they would have to force driver creation, find documentation or hack something together. While it does share similiar bases with linux it isn't just that. Without proper driver support if it ever did run it would be slow.
Now as for ubuntu running you think hey you mentioned linux. Ubuntu is linux and they are making headway well why wouldn't it be the same. Well ubuntu is purely linux pretty much with a few changes here and there. But android shares a similar bases with the ubuntu linux counterpart... Plus the chip (BayTrail) was made to support android aswell which means it would be easier to make and eventually there will be a official android tablet with official baytrail counterpart. Now once that happens they can take apart those drivers possibly to help get linux support for them. Also linux and android are well documented and mostly open. There is more understanding of the makings and inner working of both android and linux Systems, both low level and high level code work.
It will be far easier to get a linux base like ubuntu running that it will OSX at the moment. OSX just doesn't have as much coding developers that can just throw code in. Not everything in OSX is open source. While Linux uses a lot of OPEN source and GPL code. This means people will have a better time with it
Another important factor is if intel releases the documentation that the develoers need to be able to get proper device support and reasonable speed.
Well it comes down to whether they can get drivers or working subsitute to work on that systems and on the chip. While you may be able to install OSX on a intel device it does not mean that it is supported off the bat which could lead to non booting, unable to install, high level emulation needed to run basic things, bootloops..etc... the error can go on.
Linux will have the same issues but with the more open support and more of the developers who can code and understand what they are doing ubuntu will come before OSX by far.
You would need people who are dedicated to the OSX platform to try,... Now if Apple released a BayTrail product then if the drivers are posted under GPL or public then developers could get it working on this device easier as well.
Linux in general has a far larger support base than what a lot of people think.

cmsjr123 said:
It comes down to driver support. There isn't currently any BayTrail OSX devices currently so there isn't any support/drivers for the hardware/chip. This means that in order to get OSX running they would have to force driver creation, find documentation or hack something together. While it does share similiar bases with linux it isn't just that. Without proper driver support if it ever did run it would be slow.
Now as for ubuntu running you think hey you mentioned linux. Ubuntu is linux and they are making headway well why wouldn't it be the same. Well ubuntu is purely linux pretty much with a few changes here and there. But android shares a similar bases with the ubuntu linux counterpart... Plus the chip (BayTrail) was made to support android aswell which means it would be easier to make and eventually there will be a official android tablet with official baytrail counterpart. Now once that happens they can take apart those drivers possibly to help get linux support for them. Also linux and android are well documented and mostly open. There is more understanding of the makings and inner working of both android and linux Systems, both low level and high level code work.
It will be far easier to get a linux base like ubuntu running that it will OSX at the moment. OSX just doesn't have as much coding developers that can just throw code in. Not everything in OSX is open source. While Linux uses a lot of OPEN source and GPL code. This means people will have a better time with it
Another important factor is if intel releases the documentation that the develoers need to be able to get proper device support and reasonable speed.
Well it comes down to whether they can get drivers or working subsitute to work on that systems and on the chip. While you may be able to install OSX on a intel device it does not mean that it is supported off the bat which could lead to non booting, unable to install, high level emulation needed to run basic things, bootloops..etc... the error can go on.
Linux will have the same issues but with the more open support and more of the developers who can code and understand what they are doing ubuntu will come before OSX by far.
You would need people who are dedicated to the OSX platform to try,... Now if Apple released a BayTrail product then if the drivers are posted under GPL or public then developers could get it working on this device easier as well.
Linux in general has a far larger support base than what a lot of people think.
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Thanks for the in-depth response! I was hoping that since OS X has been working on existing Atom netbooks it wouldn't be difficult to add support for Bay Trail. Here's to hoping it's done eventually

tr0picana said:
Thanks for the in-depth response! I was hoping that since OS X has been working on existing Atom netbooks it wouldn't be difficult to add support for Bay Trail. Here's to hoping it's done eventually
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matter of SoC support on os x drivers, and hacking other stuff to make things work. remember, not all existing Atom netbooks work on OS X
mymacnetbook.com/compatibility-chart
also, Intel (or OEM) hasn't officially released any Bay Trail android devices yet (only PoC or testing devices going out). The newly announced dell android tablets (Dell Venue 7/8) run on Clover Trail atoms

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maybe there is hope?
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How bout this it has its own patched kernel that works with atom processors.
www . macbreaker . com /2013/ 04/ install -mountain -lion -hackintosh -niresh . html
^ remove spaces to access webpage.

ThatTechDude said:
How bout this it has its own patched kernel that works with atom processors.
www . macbreaker . com /2013/ 04/ install -mountain -lion -hackintosh -niresh . html
^ remove spaces to access webpage.
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did you try?

I'm trying the exact same thing - to emulate Mac OS X on my Asus T100 using virtualbox.
So far no luck. I've installed Atkos ML but it doesn't boot after install just stays on a blank grey screen with the Atkos apple logo. In verbose I see its because of a missing DSDT thingy, have no idea what I'm doing but from a quick Google there should be a way around this so will play around more till the next error. (Attached a screen pic)
Couldn't get Niresh's or a few others working either but would love to hear what success others have had even with attempting dual booting.
This would be an awesome development for an awesome device if someone can get Mac to run on it :good:

Chuwi Hi8 review: high performance at cheap price

With a tight budget of around $100 and a need of a good tablet for use, you may think about Chuwi Hi8 as a good choice. At a reasonable price, Chuwi offers users a 2GB RAM 32GB ROM, 1920 x 1200 pixel screen dual booting system tablet. This review will provide a close look at Hi8 to see why it is a worth buying item. The review is supported by Sam from Gearbest.com.
What’s in the box?
1* Tablet
1* Charger
1* USB Cable
1* OTG Cable
1* Earphone
1* User Manual
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Hardware
Chuwi Hi8 relies on a quad-core Intel Atom Z3736F clocked at up to 2.16Ghz and a 7th-gen Intel HD GPU to run these operating systems and their respective apps. For multitasking, the tablet comes with 2GB of RAM (which are detected as such in Windows 8.1 with Bing, but only seen as 1.87GB on Android). As far as storage is concerned, Win8.1 will show 14GB of ROM, out of the 32GB featured by the tablet, and 6.78GB in Android. That surely doesn’t sound like much, but microSD cards of up to 64GB can be used to expand that.
For an 8-inch display, Chuwi Hi8 has a pretty impressive resolution, especially considering the price. A 1920×1200 IPS MagicColor Panel was used, and the pixel density of 283PPI should make everything look crystal clear.
To stay connected, this tablet relies on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth antennas, as well as USB OTG. In fact, an USB OTG cable is provided in the box, along with the charger and the data cable. The 4,000mAh battery shouldn’t take long to charge, provided that the charger is rated at 5V/2A. According to the manufacturer, that capacity should be just enough for up to 5 hours of video playback. In any case, it wouldn’t be such a bad idea to carry a power bank with you, while on the go.
Windows
At the time of this review the tablet ships with Windows 8.1 Bing and includes one free year of Office 365. What’s not certain is once Windows 10 is released will Chuwi start to ship them out with Windows 10 and will office still be included?
Like all 32GB dual boots you have limited space, Windows has just 10GB of free storage so once the Windows updates start rolling and then the upgrade to Windows 10 you’ll likely to have much less than this. This is why I personally think all dual boots should have at least 64GB eMMC’s for storage.
Performance in Windows is fine, Windows, apps, folders all load up quickly, the tablet boots up quick and IE11 is as fluid as it ever is. The only degraded performance from the slower eMMC drive is large application install times and loading. It’s a bit slower than usual from an eMMC.
Android
The Chuwi Hi8 comes with Android 4.4.4 stock and Play Store is working out of the box. There are some bloatware applications, but all of them can be removed bar one, the Chuwi App store. You’ll to root the tablet in order to remove it.
The rom is quick and I encountered no slow down or stutters. You have a small 6.67GB free user space on the internal storage. Not much at all to play with once you start to download large games.
Switching Operating System
Windows and Android side by side, it’s just a matter of touching the Android icon in Windows and you’ll boot over to Android. The same goes for Android, just select Windows from the drop down menu. The system will reset and then boot over to the other OS. If you shut down in Android, it will boot in Android.. same for Windows. If you want to choose which OS on boot, you can hold volume key down and press power to start.
Benchmarks
The Chuwi Hi8 get 33950 scores at Antutu benchmark, It is amazing result in price.
The Chuwi Hi8 is definitely not the most powerful device out there, but it’s really cheap and it actually offers rather solid specifications. If you’re interested in the dual boot aspect, then this is one of the few such offerings you’ll find in the market. Either way, you can purchase the Chuwi Hi8 from GearBest now for $99.99 and get free ship world wide.
Source: ChinaReview.mobi

Bad experience
I have bought chuwi hi8 via DealExtreme at a very hugh price 109€ and it is the worst tablet i ever tried. The machive overheats all the time. If you restore windows you lose the O.S. swaping app. Youtube on android is limited to 720p. The ambedded video on android crashes 40% of the time. And the Multi user options on android does not exist.
If you brighten the screen on windows via energy saving, windows crashes all the time and becomes unusable, The audio works via WDM compatibility.
See why i write this post on my videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKd-rPahPHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRp7Fgyim9k
And finally the RMA is very difficult.

mine is came with already windows 10. charging is faster when you turn off the tablet. have excel word etc on mobile version. so far its ok. didnt have many problem.

ariefbudianto said:
mine is came with already windows 10. charging is faster when you turn off the tablet. have excel word etc on mobile version. so far its ok. didnt have many problem.
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How is tablet holding so far? I was thinking about getting it but I'm unsure because of seeing mixed reviews.