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[Q] please introduce today's phones' CPU and GPU

Many people told me that samsung's CPU is the best,qualcomm's and TI's is not good,why? And I also want to know,what different from kinds of GPU?Is there GPU can called"The Best"?I am a Chinese student,my English is bad....Please don't care...

If you re looking at the dual core cpu's and you want benchmark "best" then the snapdragon whips the latest qualcom cpu in the sensation without some serious overclocking... to be fair though the sensation is still an amazingly fast handset so its hard to tell..

小刷同学 said:
Many people told me that samsung's CPU is the best,qualcomm's and TI's is not good,why? And I also want to know,what different from kinds of GPU?Is there GPU can called"The Best"?I am a Chinese student,my English is bad....Please don't care...
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Well technically speaking the iPad 2 has the best GPU on the market (by a long shot), but we're probably talking about Android here so:
The best is the Adreno 220 in the dual core Snapdragons. (ie...HTC Sensation, MyTouch 4G Slide), (Any Qualcomm chip ending in 8x60). The Mali400MP in the Galaxy S II is supposed to be amazing, but the benchmark performance is rather disappointing. Either it's clocked very low or comes with a terrible OpenGL stack or driver.
As for CPU performance. They're all fairly close. They're all using dual core ARM Cortex-A9s. The differences come from L2 cache amounts, pipelines, RAM type, etc. I don't think you would find any noticable in every day usage going from the Tegra 2 to the 3rd gen Snapdragons to the Exynos, etc.
If you're buying a single core phone the only ones to look at are Hummingbird based ones and 2nd gen snapdragons (ending in 8x55).

Tmobile Galaxy S2 Adreno 220 GPU is faster than MALI-400 MP after all

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
Tmobile Galaxy S2 with Snapdragon (Qualcomm Adreno 220) - 54.5 fps
Galaxy S2 with Exynos (ARM Mali-400 MP)- 45.42 fps

I wonder if they test on same Android version. 2.3.4 & 2.3.5 is giant leap in performance.

nraudigy2 said:
http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
Tmobile Galaxy S2 with Snapdragon (Qualcomm Adreno 220) - 54.5 fps
Galaxy S2 with Exynos (ARM Mali-400 MP)- 45.42 fps
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It's probably a higher clocked version, guess Samsung weren't pleased with its performance at stock. Would be interesting to see what kind of battery performance it gets.

Where did that score get from? Anyway it's still early, it's just 1 result for that entry. I'm also getting 57.6fps on mine if I overclock it. but on the other hand there are huge improvements to be had on the driver side on the Adreno family so maybe Qualcomm finally got its ass on working and the new T-mobile version comes with new drivers.

Well T-Mobile Ver. is clocked at 1.5Ghz whereas S2 is 1.2Ghz, it can give a performance boost. Unless Adreno has improved the driver or something.

nraudigy2 said:
http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
Tmobile Galaxy S2 with Snapdragon (Qualcomm Adreno 220) - 54.5 fps
Galaxy S2 with Exynos (ARM Mali-400 MP)- 45.42 fps
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very interesting

Adreno 220 is always up to 260+ MHz on clock, meanwhile Mali 400 it's only at 167 MHz, but it can be overclocked to 400 MHz.

In Anandtech's Qualcomm S4 article, Adreno is like ATI's desktop cards. The shaders can be pretty fast if you can write code to fully utilize them.

[Q] Samsun Gio 800 mhz is default or overcloking?

My friend say the amr6 from gio is original 600 mhz with overclocking to 800 mhz (+200 mhz).
Its that true?
Because samsung mini to have 800 mhz have got CyanogenMod 7.1.0 (Android 2.3.7.1) to have 806 mhz, and how can be possible gio have 800 mhz without cyanogen if the amr6 are really overclock.
My i buy in vodafone official shop.

if you look at the technical details of the phone it says:
HARDWARE AND S.O.
S.O.: Android OS
Version: 2.2 Froyo, TouchWiz UI v3.0
Processor: MSM7227-1 Turbo 800 MHz
if I have been helpful, please thanks.

One little question this turbo does mean overcloking but means give more fast cache to cpu right?

yes, when CPU is under high stress the cache is increased as the clock. CPUs have different "slots" with certain clock, when the processor needs to do a lot of work he sets the CPU slot higher in this case 800MHz.
if I have been helpful, please thanks.

Which processor is better?

Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?

RUSSIAN787 said:
Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Better for what? Performance, energy saving, games on mobile phone? Quad-Core vs Dual-Core?
I'd prefer Quad-Core, but have never find a good test or benchmark for it.
Best regards
TT

RUSSIAN787 said:
Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Is your question in regards to the sgs3? The Mali has a better gpu but processing power they are about equal with all the bench marks. Quad core is nice for aaving battery power (more cores work less as hard as a dual or single core so it it uses less battery) but I think its a a9 architecture but the s4 is a a15 architecture which is much more optimized then a a9 so its a little bit better for battery.
And the s4 allows for 4g lte where as Mali does not.
And the s4 pro is coming out soon and the lg optimus g will have that which will probably destroy both of them out of the water.
S4 pro is a a15 quad core with adreno 320 gpu and will be the first quad to support 4g lte.
The optimus g has all the same specs as sgs3 expect it has the better cpu/gpu. Ram, screen size, resolution as well as internal memory are all the same and I think its SD card slot allows for a 64gb card as well. If it comes out for Verizon then I will be torn between that and the sgs3. Depends on dev support if It comes out on Verizon.
But for the Mali its one up is it gpu. S4 one up is 4g lte. Every thing else is marginal and as an end user you will not see the difference.
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Yes I to sgs3. In terms of what the processor is better? in games for example? In general, whether with MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 go to Exynos?

Hi dude! both processors are good! And dont forget about A6(Iphone5). Sry for iphone 5 but that processor is ammazing!

RUSSIAN787 said:
Yes I to sgs3. In terms of what the processor is better? in games for example? In general, whether with MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 go to Exynos?
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The exynos is better for hardcore 3d gaming, but otherwise you won't notice the difference in day to day and casual gaming.
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FEXTEZI said:
Hi dude! both processors are good! And dont forget about A6(Iphone5). Sry for iphone 5 but that processor is ammazing!
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Doesn't matter because since its an iPhone its scaled back to "improve stability" so you will never get its full potential just like iphone 4s is.
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qualcomm did not much inferior to Exynos?

In most of the reviews of US and international S3, Exynos scored more than snapdragon. But I believe, normal user will not feel much difference.

I had one with Exynos in hand. Pretty good.

i think the Exynos is very good

Moto Z clocked @2.15? Naahh... @1.82? Naahh... it's @1.59!!!

Nobody still have discussed it but... our Moto Z XT1650-03 are *really* underclocked!!!
Let's start from the beginning...
First models on marked were the Verizon's Droid version and their SD820 were clocked @2.15 GHz (at least so declared officially Motorola)...
Then came out the unbranded international version and, even if not so "advertized" by Motorola, it's clock was lowered (officially...), to 1.82 GHz. True?
False.
Even if apps like CPU-Z find the CPU able to work between 300 MHz and 1.82 GHz, the real clock frequencies used by Moto Z are in the range 652 MHz - 1.59 GHz!!!
Using root, both my "reference" apps, Antutu CPU Master Pro & FauxClock show this range (652 - 1,59) as used BUT while the lower clock can be lowered to 300 MHz (best setting for longer battery life in my opinion... ), there is NO option to go over 1.59 GHZ at all!!!
From my experience there should be two more setting 1.82 GHZ and, probably, something around @1.7x GHz, but both are unavailable on stock kernel.
So, if @erfanoabdi has really raised clock to real 2.15 GHz in its modified kernel, the difference in performance should be really noticeable! (I don't know about battery life anyway... ).

enetec said:
Nobody still have discussed it but... our Moto Z XT1650-03 are *really* underclocked!!!
Let's start from the beginning...
First models on marked were the Verizon's Droid version and their SD820 were clocked @2.15 GHz (at least so declared officially Motorola)...
Then came out the unbranded international version and, even if not so "advertized" by Motorola, it's clock was lowered (officially...), to 1.82 GHz. True?
False.
Even if apps like CPU-Z find the CPU able to work between 300 MHz and 1.82 GHz, the real clock frequencies used by Moto Z are in the range 652 MHz - 1.59 GHz!!!
Using root, both my "reference" apps, Antutu CPU Master Pro & FauxClock show this range (652 - 1,59) as used BUT while the lower clock can be lowered to 300 MHz (best setting for longer battery life in my opinion... ), there is NO option to go over 1.59 GHZ at all!!!
From my experience there should be two more setting 1.82 GHZ and, probably, something around @1.7x GHz, but both are unavailable on stock kernel.
So, if @erfanoabdi has really raised clock to real 2.15 GHz in its modified kernel, the difference in performance should be really noticeable! (I don't know about battery life anyway... ).
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Hi, let me explain it
If you take look at snapdragon 820 details and tech specs you will see this processor have 4 core and
2 core of them is clockable up to 2.15
And other 2 core is clockable up to 1.5
And you can also check it by kernel adiutor app on your device.
International version of moto z using same hardware as Verizon edition but kernel of them are different and CPU of it underclocked to 1.3 and 1.8 Hz
There is some restrictions for GPU too and I fixed them on my kernel
So don't worry
Use my turboZ or Verizon (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69459891&postcount=205) kernel for better speed and performance

erfanoabdi said:
Hi, let me explain it
If you take look at snapdragon 820 details and tech specs you will see this processor have 4 core and
2 core of them is clockable up to 2.15
And other 2 core is clockable up to 1.5
And you can also check it by kernel adiutor app on your device.
International version of moto z using same hardware as Verizon edition but kernel of them are different and CPU of it underclocked to 1.3 and 1.8 Hz
There is some restrictions for GPU too and I fixed them on my kernel
So don't worry
Use my turboZ or Verizon (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69459891&postcount=205) kernel for better speed and performance
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With turboz kernel 0.7 it never pass 1.59.
Performance are great all most everywhere with elementalX governor. Just some scrolling stuttering. All is fast and no lags.

It's probably because it's reading the speeds of the other 2 cores in the "efficiency" cluster.

enetec said:
Nobody still have discussed it but... our Moto Z XT1650-03 are *really* underclocked!!!
Let's start from the beginning...
First models on marked were the Verizon's Droid version and their SD820 were clocked @2.15 GHz (at least so declared officially Motorola)...
Then came out the unbranded international version and, even if not so "advertized" by Motorola, it's clock was lowered (officially...), to 1.82 GHz. True?
False.
Even if apps like CPU-Z find the CPU able to work between 300 MHz and 1.82 GHz, the real clock frequencies used by Moto Z are in the range 652 MHz - 1.59 GHz!!!
Using root, both my "reference" apps, Antutu CPU Master Pro & FauxClock show this range (652 - 1,59) as used BUT while the lower clock can be lowered to 300 MHz (best setting for longer battery life in my opinion... ), there is NO option to go over 1.59 GHZ at all!!!
From my experience there should be two more setting 1.82 GHZ and, probably, something around @1.7x GHz, but both are unavailable on stock kernel.
So, if @erfanoabdi has really raised clock to real 2.15 GHz in its modified kernel, the difference in performance should be really noticeable! (I don't know about battery life anyway... ).
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So any battery saving experience when you lower the minimum CPU speed to 300MHz?
Is it really running at 300MHz instead of 652MHz?

benson1118 said:
So any battery saving experience when you lower the minimum CPU speed to 300MHz?
Is it really running at 300MHz instead of 652MHz?
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Yes, it seems so. Yes, real 300 MHz...

Hello. I am interested in purchasing this phone but am confused by the different versions and conflicting specs that I see online for each. So certain versions have the faster 2.15GHz processor vs 1.8GHz but lack Band 12 support (I'm on T-Mobile). While the others have Band 12 but have the slower processor? Is that correct; there is no way to have both?

cyborgLIS said:
Hello. I am interested in purchasing this phone but am confused by the different versions and conflicting specs that I see online for each. So certain versions have the faster 2.15GHz processor vs 1.8GHz but lack Band 12 support (I'm on T-Mobile). While the others have Band 12 but have the slower processor? Is that correct; there is no way to have both?
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You can have both by unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms.

The Marionette said:
You can have both by unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms.
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So I could purchase either version and use a custom rom to unlock the missing features, i.e. the hardware is identical? Is one route recommended over the other?

cyborgLIS said:
So I could purchase either version and use a custom rom to unlock the missing features, i.e. the hardware is identical? Is one route recommended over the other?
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I think only a specific variant like the Verizon one is in a bs state when it comes to software. Other than that one, you should be "on equal grounds".