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Constant Random Reboots

I am getting really frustrated with my wife's Nexus S. Currently it has ICS with glados kernel, but the problem persists no matter what rom/kernel combo I put on it, the phone always randomly reboots. It has been doing this for months now. It will be sitting on the bed and we'll just see the boot animation, it turns right back on so only has a few seconds of down time but it does it CONSTANTLY, every couple of hours.
Is it possible the phone has something physically wrong? What can I look into? I'm bout ready to unroot and warranty exchange. I run the app "aLogcat" on it, but that doesn't really answer much *probably because it's a bit over my head* When I set it to Fatal level logging, nothing really even shows up. I can post the log cat result if anyone would care to look at it for me

Have you tried raising voltages??
Are you using any oc settings or live oc?

I haven't messed with anything related to processors since I had a G2 lol. Do I just use Set CPU? I've never really dredged into that subject because I don't know what voltages to set it to, etc. Can logcat help confirm that could be the issue? The only thing I can really interpret from it is that winamp is having Wifi issues... but I don't even have wifi activated in the app.

I see these posts all the time and I'm sorry I picked you to harass.
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DON'T MOD YOUR WIFE'S/GIRLFRIEND'S/FRIEND'S/ANYONE'S PHONE!
Seriously, they don't care about overclocking, undervolting, cool mods or whatever as much as they care that the phone turns on, makes calls and doesn't reboot. And if they really do care you need to tell them to do it themselves.
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Also reboots are annoying and I hope you are able to get yours sorted out.

joshthewaster said:
I see these posts all the time and I'm sorry I picked you to harass.
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DON'T MOD YOUR WIFE'S/GIRLFRIEND'S/FRIEND'S/ANYONE'S PHONE!
Seriously, they don't care about overclocking, undervolting, cool mods or whatever as much as they care that the phone turns on, makes calls and doesn't reboot. And if they really do care you need to tell them to do it themselves.
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Wow, I didn't realize that you knew my wife. She had a rooted G1 when I met her, and has been using Cyanogenmod since CM5, with a break while she had a vibrant because it doesn't have CM. You are extremely offensive to women, and you are a sexist, close-minded neanderthal.
She does lots of things with her phone, and hates it stock. She and I are both stumped about the issue so *I* posted up. I'm not some retard that modded my casual girlfriend's phone and screwed it up on her.

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Also reboots are annoying and I hope you are able to get yours sorted out.
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Yeah it's really frustrating, at least it comes right back up. My Evo 3D needs a battery pull when it happens because it locks up on the bootanim
I may look into newer ICS builds, but like I said this is across all rom's/kernels
Can SetCPU help even if I'm not sure the exact voltages to play with? I've just always been against Profiles running so I haven't used it in quite a while. Any ideas to try out?

I think that you should go back to a factory set with GB just to check that the hardware is fine...

I'll try that probably tomorrow. Going to drive her nuts stock though haha. I know her vibrant GPS issues ended up being hardware

theratdude64 said:
Wow, I didn't realize that you knew my wife. She had a rooted G1 when I met her, and has been using Cyanogenmod since CM5, with a break while she had a vibrant because it doesn't have CM. You are extremely offensive to women, and you are a sexist, close-minded neanderthal.
She does lots of things with her phone, and hates it stock. She and I are both stumped about the issue so *I* posted up. I'm not some retard that modded my casual girlfriend's phone and screwed it up on her.
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See I knew I was going to say it to the wrong person. I'm not sexist it's just that so many people think it's a good idea to mod someone else's stuff and usually what I read on here is "my gf". I'm actually quite sure that tons of users on here are women either intentionally trying to hide there gender or use a name that is neutral. Which is sad if they have been made to feel that is necessary. Anyway if your wife actually does some flashing, modding, or whatever then I apologize to you. However, my point still stands for the rest of users that mod other people's phones. Just don't do it!

Didn't mean to go off on ya, but we're definitely not that case Our whole house is full of modded stuff, Modded Wii, PSP, Anything android, lots of *geek* mods to my car, etc. I've swayed her this way but she already had it in her to begin with
But yes, I agree with you. I have people coming to me ALL the time to root/mod/whatever their phones and I used to help out a lot, but now I debrief them on what it all means and most back out of it because it isn't relevant to them. And whoever I do help I treat it more like a learning experience and teach them how to maintain it on a basic level without me *changing roms, etc* and don't help people unless they're willing to understand it. Pretty good system I think lol

I'm also having random reboots on the Nexus S that I got just recently. I ran a 100% stock unrooted rom for about a day and no reboots, but I primarily got the nexus for cm7 so I had to go back. Sure enough, within about 12 hours of rooting and flashing, got another reboot. Tried many different roms/kernels and underclocking/overclocking. Let me know if you find a solution.

likewise, if ya beat me to it
Anyone know what voltages to try out? I'm in the process of booting up into GummyNexus, and to test it out I flashed this too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236779
Anyone heard of the Adrenalin Shot? Found it while digging into the Vibrant 4G forums. Universal flash, says it can even help an Evo 3D's 3D Picture quality, but general snappyness. This Nexus S is running crazy fast/good at the moment, but not sure if thats just because its a fresh flash with no apps loaded yet.

Try Matr1x v14.0!!!
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I purchased a third party battery and have been using it for nearly a week without any reboots after having a reboot nearly everyday with the stock battery. Although it doesn't make much logical sense, a different battery seems to have fixed the issue
The battery: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DC2MF6/ref=oh_o00_s00_i01_details

Running Gummy Nexus I haven't seen any reboots VERY stable rom, highly recommended. I also flashed the Universal Adrenaline Shot. I found it hidden in the Galaxy S 4G threads but it's got a specific GS4G version, then a universal that worked great. Very snappy

Terrible.

After a week with this phone my general consensus is that it works terribly.
First, let me say the hardware is great and the industrial design, the look, is top notch and the only reason I still have the phone.
HTC has really made this phone bad and AT&T hasn't helped by not letting us put our own rom on it to fix the major issues.
Firstly, Gmail push email only works when it wants to work. This is a 2007 issue that's been solved for half a decade.
When I leave my house and I try to use data, the phone shows as still being connected to my WiFi and therefore no data will work. So I have to manually turn wifi off.
Multitasking? Yea right. At first I was puzzled as to why after switching back to an app it would restart. Was the phone running out of RAM? Doesn't it have 1GB? Turns out it's a software thing. Again, multitasking was an issue solved in 2007.
These are the only major issues with this device, and they are major because it affects me multiple times a day.
If this phone didn't have great hardware and look awesome I would have returned it the same day.
The fact that these issues can all be solved by flashing another rom gives me hope that this will someday be a useable device.
Just needed to rant.
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We didn't need that rant

Well. I feel better after I wrote it
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I have to admit: the multitasking thing really bothers me. I can't duplicate it on my Gnex and that alone makes me wonder about this phone. It seems to go against everything Android stands for. If I wanted a phone that saves states, I'd use my iPhone.
Love the camera on this phone and the screen is amazing. I love some of Sense's customizations such as the Facebook and Twitter integration in contacts, but they seem to have kind of ruined ICS. My GSM Gnex got just as good battery life with full blown multitasking.

greyhulk said:
I have to admit: the multitasking thing really bothers me. I can't duplicate it on my Gnex and that alone makes me wonder about this phone. It seems to go against everything Android stands for. If I wanted a phone that saves states, I'd use my iPhone.
Love the camera on this phone and the screen is amazing. I love some of Sense's customizations such as the Facebook and Twitter integration in contacts, but they seem to have kind of ruined ICS. My GSM Gnex got just as good battery life with full blown multitasking.
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Do you know if we would use cm7 or any other custom rom that we would be able to multitask properly? That is bothering me as well. It keeps reloading everything. If the hardware wasnt so nice, it would have gone back already.

I would imagine so. I think Sense is prematurely killing apps to save memory.
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seriously??
its obviously whatever they set as the default mem manager and how aggresive they set it, probably to do with the scheduler too
i can replicate that behaviour on my cappy by adjusting mem manager to aggresive....so..i wouldnt fault the phone. theyll either adjust it in an update due to feedback, or we can just control it ourselves once we are all on a custom rom.
you shoulda known this if youve ever run any sort of custom rom....one would think. but now you do....so fret no you must young padiwan, good things coming they are, wait you must.

ptesmoke said:
seriously??
its obviously whatever they set as the default mem manager and how aggresive they set it, probably to do with the scheduler too
i can replicate that behaviour on my cappy by adjusting mem manager to aggresive....so..i wouldnt fault the phone. theyll either adjust it in an update due to feedback, or we can just control it ourselves once we are all on a custom rom.
you shoulda known this if youve ever run any sort of custom rom....one would think. but now you do....so fret no you must young padiwan, good things coming they are, wait you must.
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I have no doubt that something like Cyanogenmod would resolve this, but I don't want to install a custom rom and shouldn't have to. The phone should work correctly without hacking it.
From the few responses I have seen from HTC reps that users have contacted, they don't seem to think this is a problem. They claim this is "how multitasking is intended to function". That tells me a fix will not be forthcoming.

Bigjim1488 said:
We didn't need that rant
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we really didnt. Seeing that there is a shortage of the same rants on the forum right now.

greyhulk said:
I have no doubt that something like Cyanogenmod would resolve this, but I don't want to install a custom rom and shouldn't have to. The phone should work correctly without hacking it.
From the few responses I have seen from HTC reps that users have contacted, they don't seem to think this is a problem. They claim this is "how multitasking is intended to function". That tells me a fix will not be forthcoming.
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I'm not trying to troll, but how do so many people that want to run stock end up on xda lol? I love the hacking & experimenting aspect of Android. That being said, I don't really see any problems with the multi-tasking outside of the browser reloading so much (I've been using Firefox more anyway & it works fine). My galaxy nexus wasn't that much better either. Could htc have done a better job? Sure, probably. But the phone is pretty impressive, multi-tasking issues aside.

sdotkdot said:
I'm not trying to troll, but how do so many people that want to run stock end up on xda lol? I love the hacking & experimenting aspect of Android. That being said, I don't really see any problems with the multi-tasking outside of the browser reloading so much (I've been using Firefox more anyway & it works fine). My galaxy nexus wasn't that much better either. Could htc have done a better job? Sure, probably. But the phone is pretty impressive, multi-tasking issues aside.
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You may have noticed (or not, depending on how observant you are) that not every post on here is about hacking, modding, and rooting. Some people actually come here to talk about the phones, report bugs, compare notes, ask questions, etc.
Multitasking is much worse than a browser refresh. Start up Pandora or Slacker and let them run in the background. They will die. Start a game and then open a few other apps and come back to the game and it will completely reload and lose all progress. This is not how Android multitasking is supposed to work.
And I'm sorry, but waiting for a custom rom to make this phone work correctly is like buying a Macbook Air, getting nonstop kernel panics and hoping that someone will release a version of Linux that you can install on it to make it run correctly.

greyhulk said:
You may have noticed (or not, depending on how observant you are) that not every post on here is about hacking, modding, and rooting. Some people actually come here to talk about the phones, report bugs, compare notes, ask questions, etc.
Multitasking is much worse than a browser refresh. Start up Pandora or Slacker and let them run in the background. They will die. Start a game and then open a few other apps and come back to the game and it will completely reload and lose all progress. This is not how Android multitasking is supposed to work.
And I'm sorry, but waiting for a custom rom to make this phone work correctly is like buying a Macbook Air, getting nonstop kernel panics and hoping that someone will release a version of Linux that you can install on it to make it run correctly.
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I do understand that there are plenty of non-development threads given that this is in "general". Nobody is making you keep the phone and wait for a fix either. But you are right, it is a vital function of the phone and you would expect it to perform as it's supposed to. Every phone I've owned has had some kind of flaw or quirk and the developers here do an awesome job fixing them as well as making the phone better in almost every aspect fairly quickly.
*Edit - So after thinking about it, I realized that I haven't really used the multi-tasking feature all that much and decided to put it through some tests. Apparently it does suck lol so I apologize ...using home to exit current app then going back to a previously used app via the launcher does work a little better, but there is definitely some work to be done

Rants are good. Gets the word out on issues that hopefully get resolved.

At least be accurate with your rant. From a little googling the Tmobile G1 was release in 2008 and Gmail push was released in 2009, not 2007.

I have never really understand why htc...spend money make their own sense android... and they know people will try anything to get aosp back...
also those people who has galaxy nexus and tries to port sense...UI....god...they must have time....

I went to a store to try this device tonight. The hardware and screen are simply awesome. Sense even looks nice and the UI was lightning quick. It is really disappointing that basic things like WiFi-3G handoff and multitasking are not working right...things I've taken for granted for awhile on CyanogenMod. I agree with others, I was hoping to not have to mess with custom ROMs at all, by now it should just work great out of the box. Now I have to monitor the software situation here and compare to the SGSIII when it's released.

niceppl said:
I have never really understand why htc...spend money make their own sense android... and they know people will try anything to get aosp back...
also those people who has galaxy nexus and tries to port sense...UI....god...they must have time....
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the grass is always greener...
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Firstly, Gmail push email only works when it wants to work. This is a 2007 issue that's been solved for half a decade.
-> gmail works fine for me. i get notifications as soon as i get an email sent.
When I leave my house and I try to use data, the phone shows as still being connected to my WiFi and therefore no data will work. So I have to manually turn wifi off.
->have you tried using the newer version of stock, it has wifi fixes, ive had this issue one time, but not again.
Multitasking? Yea right. At first I was puzzled as to why after switching back to an app it would restart. Was the phone running out of RAM? Doesn't it have 1GB? Turns out it's a software thing. Again, multitasking was an issue solved in 2007.
-> never had any multitasking problem but people complain about it a lot.

on the other side....hehe

Multitasking is the only system/device problem that everyone has. I have zero wifi issues and zero push issues. Not everyone got stuck with a buggy One X. Just sayin.
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TouchWiz VS. AOSP?

I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.

me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.

i prefer AOSP

TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.

DaemonAshra said:
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:

prdog1 said:
Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.

I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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DaemonAshra said:
I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.

prdog1 said:
Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.

DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.

I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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1ManWolfePack said:
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:

I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.

DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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DaemonAshra said:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.

To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.

CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.

I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.

I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone

aooga said:
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.

[Q] atrix2 ics issues

i am new here so pleae bare with me. i hate ics on atrix2. gb was ok but not great. i did the ota att update and hate it.
first i hate the moving have to slide to answer a call button. on gb i used a 3rd party bypass to just press an answer button.
the black screens are terible and hard to see outside.
there is no repeating audible alarm for voicemails and txt msgs. of course there never has been on atrix4g or atrix2. i get this feature by using a 3rd party app but now they will not work on ics.
i am looking for suggestions from those of you that know this phone and know android. i am willing to root the phone or whatever it takes to get to be the device i need. i need better colors on the screen, i need repeating alarms for v/m and txt msg.
best to all

I don't think there is a repeated audible sound for notifications. The notification light is there for that purpose. ICS as you said is horrible on our phone. I suggest you go through the dev section and find a nice rom that suites you
Life!

Yeah try magicmod ROM
Its nicer its a JB based rom
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Since you did the ota there is no way to get back to GB, however to adress your issues, or at lest some, there are certainly third party apps and mods. light flow will do repeating alarms I know, and many custom roms are just overall better, as long as you can live with whatever bugs they may have. anything aosp based (cyanogen mod, aokp, etc... really any multi phone rom) will have some glitches with things like the camera, but just read the threads. We have cm10 that is quite stable, ParanoidAndroid, MIUI, and I am working on aokp.

lkrasner said:
I am working on aokp.
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its good to know that ....
seeing you after long time buddy ..... gud luck for aokp & thanks for keepin our fone alive

shardul.phatak said:
its good to know that ....
seeing you after long time buddy ..... gud luck for aokp & thanks for keepin our fone alive
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Thanks! Yeah, I've been busy with life lately, and haven't been on here much.
AOKP really should end up working out, it is basically cm with some extras, but building it is kind of new to me, so it is taking a while, especially since I don't have much time to wok on it anyways.

[Q] Back light Notification For GB?

I have a Galaxy s blaze and i rooted it to get rid of the bloatware. I did not install CWM. Still on stock rom adn everything. I heard about "bln" and that it requires kernels that support it.
However it seems that only CM roms support this. I am satisfied with gingerbread so i will not flash any roms.
Is there not a kernel for gingerbread that i can flash?
-Thanks in advance

It's great that you recognize you are satisfied with GB, but I was also recently jealous of button light notifications so I looked a little into it, with getting them in ICS somehow. I was on stock rooted ICS for a time, found it fine, but it really seems that as time passed, advancements with features was always geared with whatever was the most recent.
Having BLN, from what I read anyways, requires both kernel support, as well as framework stuff that is usually just included with the rom. It seems the kernel stuff was on the easier side to do...
Assuming that is correct, if there's a kernel that supports BLN for it, you're going to need it in the rom anyway, and the stock rom doesn't do it. Which means you're going to be flashing anyway.
Having said all that, jellybean has some nice additions that certainly made it worthwhile for me to switch. I've been real happy with CM10, and wouldn't go back. But if I wanted to, it would literally only take a few minutes to switch back to ICS.
What I'm trying to say is...give an updated rom a try. I have a suspicion you'll not want to go back.

I get what you're saying. However for me its a more been there done that. I owned a Wildfire S and tried a lot of their roms and stuff but overall for me when it comes to phones i really like it normal. I hate now they includes their boot animations and extra backgrounds and all these extra options. I know they took their time to make it but i like the t-mobile feel of this branded t-mobile phone.
Anyway so you're saying i will have to flash roms if i want backlight features. However no GB roms support?

As I mentioned in the first reply, seemed that way to me when I was first looking for something with BLN.
As for the "boot animations and extra backgrounds and all these extra options." opinion, I'm not sure if this really makes sense to me.
Cyanogen for example, actually has a less obtrusive boot animation. I mean, it flashes Samsung briefly, than the circle shape cyanogen thing spins around for a bit, and then you can unlock your phone. I have not timed it, but I think it's even a faster boot time, this is good, right? I think most would agree the boot animation doesn't even matter, but let's be realistic, it's not like the stock boot animation on this phone is something that someone would say is cool, or anything. It just is.
As for the background situation... uh that doesn't make any sense either. As I'm sure you're aware you can use whatever background you want. Personally I have almost always used the "no wallpaper selection" because I like the plain black background. Icons and what not, are pretty much the same. Any of the "over stylized" stuff are just themes, something that's not even included with CM10 by default. If basic and not stylized is what you want, CM10 is EXACTLY that.
Heck, I'd go so far as to say that a large portion of the people who use CM10 like it for that very reason, because touchwiz is in fact the over modified monstrosity they are trying to get rid of.
As for the extra options...They are options, you don't have to use them. You don't even have to use BLN, but in your case I know you want to.
You can also very easily set it up to only have BLN active when you want it to, even on a scheduled basis, thanks to the alarm clock being able to change your profile, if you wish.
I've not used it so it's not a personal recommendation, but it sounds like AOKP might be something worth checking into for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989825
If the icon placement and arrangement looks foreign to you, it's just a launcher. You don't even have to use it. Just saying.
In the end, customization is what makes Android great. If you want simple and straight forward, with additional features, loading a non-stock rom is by far the best way to get it!

Again I get what you mean but I've used cm on my wildfire and I didn't like it. Yeah it's a different phone but the basic rom itself is universal if I'm not mistaken just every phone have their different features. I like touchwiz and I love how fast and responsive my phone is now. I COULD get better performance from any other mod but I'm not willing to try that. My phone and my laptop don't really come across each other a lot and I like that. I don't wanna install cmw and do all this other stuff. For instance, with my wildfire I rooted and the only reason I did a custom rom was because I messed up the stock one without doing a backup. Everything worked fine for a few months then if I tried restart the phone it would boot loop. 10 minutes later after I had to re flash it and use titanium I had the phone back but it was a hassle. Maybe bad rom maybe my fault but that's the point I'm trying to say I don't want that stress. I even got tricked into updating the wildfire which turned out to slow it down even though most people said they got better performance.
Also I mean I bought a t mobile phone from Samsung and I like the professional boot animation representing that. I actually like watching the loading bar. It boots way faster than my wildfire and I only restart it when I'm in my room anyway so speed really isn't a priority for me in this department.
I just thought bln was a cool simple idea that maybe someone would have made compatible one gb and maybe I missed it when searching. But I guess not :/

Mohamed1993 said:
I just thought bln was a cool simple idea that maybe someone would have made compatible one gb and maybe I missed it when searching. But I guess not :/
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It wasn't simple. Still isn't. as BLN is still buggy for us.

Thanks I guess? I'll just check In a couple months and see if they make one for gb through Odin or something. :silly:

That's not gonna happen gingerbread is a wrap. Soon ICS will be too. Open the jelly bean jar or forget about bln. I use it and love it no kinks. Plus its a lifesaver when you didn't hear a text or noti .

I've not used it so it's not a personal recommendation, but it sounds like AOKP might be something worth checking into for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989825
If the icon placement and arrangement looks foreign to you, it's just a launcher. You don't even have to use it. Just saying.
In the end, customization is what makes Android great. If you want simple and straight forward, with additional features, loading a non-stock rom is by far the best way to get it![/QUOTE]
I don't follow what you're saying. Couldn't find any support on bln and why that rom even exist?

Mohamed1993 said:
]I don't follow what you're saying. Couldn't find any support on bln and why that rom even exist?
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Aaaaaand I'm done.

So if you don't like a custom boot/shutdown animation what's stopping you from replacing it with the stock ones? That seems like a silly reason to avoid a rom
As others have stated, development for GB is over and done. If there's something you want that's missing in GB you need to change versions to get it. This rule applies to all OS's i.e. wanting trim in windows xp.
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