May be a slight exaggeration and I may have got everything wrong(in which case i apologise) but I just read this:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...dragon-s4-eats-tegra-and-exynos-for-breakfast
Which shows tegra 3 being beaten by Qualcomm's quad core processor which may be in tablets this year. Wouldn't tegra 4 then be announced to compete, leaving tegra 3 in the dust?
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Welcome to the world of mobile technology.
Tegra 3 will be outdated soon. Mobile processing and software is accelerating very fast. This time last year cutting edge tablets were running Honeycomb with Tegra 2.
Well, I was thinking of getting my tablet replaced due to a dead pixel, would I be better off just getting a refund and waiting for another tablet? It wouldn't become completely obsolete, would it?
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Well, I was thinking of getting my tablet replaced due to a dead pixel, would I be better off just getting a refund and waiting for another tablet? It wouldn't become completely obsolete, would it?
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and wathever you will buy will become obsolete in 6-10 months and wathever will make -that- obsolete will get obsolete in another 6-10 months.
if you start playing the waiting game, you will die from old age before buying anything.
just ask yourself: what apps and programs have you to run on your tablet? do they run satisfatly on xxx tablet? then buy that.
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May be a slight exaggeration and I may have got everything wrong(in which case i apologise) but I just read this:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...dragon-s4-eats-tegra-and-exynos-for-breakfast
Which shows tegra 3 being beaten by Qualcomm's quad core processor which may be in tablets this year. Wouldn't tegra 4 then be announced to compete, leaving tegra 3 in the dust?
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tegra 3 is based over a cortex a9 core without even Neon, so from a core efficiency perspective its not the best possible, a dual core snapdragon 4 is faster in some cases than a four core tegra 3.
this dont mean that its slow, as it is now its the fastest soc on the market and the one with the best computational power/price rateo.
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Well, I was thinking of getting my tablet replaced due to a dead pixel, would I be better off just getting a refund and waiting for another tablet? It wouldn't become completely obsolete, would it?
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Whatever you buy won't fix the problem of new hardware coming out in the future. Mobile space is just moving at a very fast pace right now. No way to avoid it or future proof your device.
I'm hoping to get 3 - 4 years of use from my TF300, but I know I'm seriously going to want to upgrade in 2 years.
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More like: welcome to the world.
KindaUndisputed said:
Well, I was thinking of getting my tablet replaced due to a dead pixel, would I be better off just getting a refund and waiting for another tablet? It wouldn't become completely obsolete, would it?
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haha, sorry for laughing, but do you plan on buying a new tablet every 3 months? This is what mobile technology is like. It only becomes obsolete when it doesn't do something you use it for.
Moores' Law: Technology doubles every 6 months, as the price goes in 1/2. It's impossible to keep up with it unless you've got tons of money to blow
Thanks all, I've onl owned 3 android devices and they aren't even all high end (bar my transformer) so wasn't too familiar with how quick we see progression. Thanks for the help, i think i'll just stick with my transformer for now
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I'm hoping to get 3 - 4 years of use from my TF300, but I know I'm seriously going to want to upgrade in 2 years.
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I think 2 years would be great, but I could easily see myself selling off my TF300 in a year or so to get a newer tablet. I'm not very patient at all, and I love technology too much to not want the next best thing.
What would you do with your transformer then? Keep it or sell it?
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I would try to sell it. I'm hoping I can get about US$200 for it when I do, but it's hard to predict resale value a year in advance. Plus, it's unlocked, which may or may not be an advantage. That would depend on the buyer. I wonder what resale value of a TF101 is atm. That would probably be a good indicator of the expected resale value of the TF300.
Its amazing how fast hardware and software advance these days. I just bought the tf300 but now it looks like it isnt the best or one of the best things out there! You just dont know what to get now because of how fast technology developes. It would be cool to see a kind of android tablet/phone open sourse hardware where you can over time update the ram or cpu or graphics card, kind of like a computer.
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Its amazing how fast hardware and software advance these days. I just bought the tf300 but now it looks like it isnt the best or one of the best things out there! You just dont know what to get now because of how fast technology developes. It would be cool to see a kind of android tablet/phone open sourse hardware where you can over time update the ram or cpu or graphics card, kind of like a computer.
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there's a reason if a desktop pc is as big as a suitcase...
do you want a tablet that needs a trolley and a few miles of extension power cord to be lugged around?
Well hang on a minute... I could see a mobo with a replaceable cpu/gpu to help keep up with upgrades. It's not undoable.
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Well hang on a minute... I could see a mobo with a replaceable cpu/gpu to help keep up with upgrades. It's not undoable.
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its doable on something as big as a desktop pc, when you have 8mm of total height clearance included the chassis and covers you cant use removable sockets or adptable spread headers, everything has to be custom fitted so, for eg. the cover themselves get in contact with the cpu and works as heat spreaders and so on.
making it so it would be user modifiable would be a nightmare of the worst degree.
OR maybe they could use correlated magnets and contact plates (instead of clips and pins).
I can see possibly designing a processor which doesn't attach to the motherboard, but just sits on top of it held in place very tightly by say... a 2mm deep groove around the outside edge corresponding to a raised rim on the board, and a set of correlated magnets.
It'd be cool to see the heat from processors being used to generate some slight recharging power. Thermocouples anyone?
I've also got an idea kicking around about the possibility of replacing the existing TF300 screen with an aftermarket 3D enabled one. After going inside the hardware yesterday, it doesn't look to difficult, of course given that such a screen eventually exists.
Dave
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Thermocouple to charge the same battery that powers the heat source (CPU, etc.)? I don't think so. It's like a battery that charges itself without outside energy source. Laws of physics dabble dabble dabble..
When someone discovers or invents that, we will have world peace!
Back on topic, I just bought my tegra 3 device. I love it for its speed compared to my other devices. As long as you don't experience something faster or better, you existing device will suit you perfectly in the next 5 years. Probably longer as long as it's running.
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I just returned my Prime to Best Buy due to the "Serial Number Unknown" bug. I don't feel like waiting for ASUS to fix all its issues, so I'm looked around for an alternative. I can get a brand new, 32GB, original Transformer for $399 from a reputable merchant. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, but my only concern is how long will Tegra 2 still be fast enough. What do you guys think? $399 for a new 32GB TF seems to be a decent deal.
Most phones and tablets will continue to be Tegra 2 (and comparable) this year. The TF101 can be overclocked reliably to 1.5GHz. There are multiple problems with the next gen suport chips. I don't like being a paid beta tester.
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I love my Transformer, I would easily purchase another one before I purchased a TF201..
However, since I already have a original Transformer, I'm looking to see how the TF700T turns out. That 1920x1200 screen really has me excited. If the Tegra3 GPU is capable enough to remain nice and smooth when pushing that many pixels, I will probably go that route for my next tab.
Thanks for the replies. I think I may order the TF101. The TF700 is overkill for me. Plus, I don't want to spend $600 and be a beta tester again. I learned my lesson the TF201.
The tf201 has way too many issues. I would buy a second transformer before I bought a prime at this point. Tegra 2 will still be be made for mobile devices for the next 3+ months at least.
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Best reasons for Tegra 2 not being good enough: A.) You've got to have more cores or you an unhappy w^Huser; B.) You crave the most powerful THD graphics; C.) user specific needs (maybe 1080p video decode?)
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I just placed my order for the TF101. With ICS and maybe an overclocked kernel, it should hold me over to the next great tablets come out next year.
I honestly could see using the TF101 for another couple years... I had a Droid Eris that I managed to keep around for over 2 years and this thing seriously flies in comparison.
If I do end up upgrading to the TF700T sometime, I'll probably still use my TF101 everyday in some capacity. I don't replace devices... if I get another, I'll keep using the TF101 til it breaks or is no longer relevant.
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If I do end up upgrading to the TF700T sometime, I'll probably still use my TF101 everyday in some capacity. I don't replace devices... if I get another, I'll keep using the TF101 til it breaks or is no longer relevant.
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I'm the opposite. I buy something, and when I want something better, the old one usually goes on eBay. Sometimes people on there give me more than what I paid for an item when it was new, or pay me more for an old/used item than I paid for the newer model.
i worked hard as hell all summer to get this tablet and now i feel like they are going to ditch it soon. just but jellybean on it to stop the crying and go onto their windows rt / 8 stuff. look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHHApNJS3LQ&feature=youtu.be
i dont know how long this tablet will live for and im just curious if its something that will work for me a year from now
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i worked hard as hell all summer to get this tablet and now i feel like they are going to ditch it soon. just but jellybean on it to stop the crying and go onto their windows rt / 8 stuff. look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHHApNJS3LQ&feature=youtu.be
i dont know how long this tablet will live for and im just curious if its something that will work for me a year from now
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See the OG transformer for an idea of how long this tab is going to last.
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See the OG transformer for an idea of how long this tab is going to last.
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Or the prime
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Or the prime
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The Prime was garbage. Pure and simple sh*t.
Infinity is everything i expected from the Prime but didn't get. I believe Infinity will be good for a while. Android has a HUGE following, and its all based on numbers.
There are a few build issues, and I'm gonna return mine, but getting another.
Relax, this tablet will be around for at least one per two years
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I sure hope it doesn't go anywhere, i'd hate to have to drop size and buy the nexus 7
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I sure hope it doesn't go anywhere, i'd hate to have to drop size and buy the nexus 7
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I have got that one too.... really nice and fits all the niches that the infinity is too big for. Grab one, you won't be sorry.
Original transformer = still getting updates
Prime = crap but still getting updates, tho i dont know why people would still keep it when most cases they can upgrade to 700
300 = ok, lots of people have it, getting updates
Asus is very bad for QA, slow for customer service, but one thing they are damn good at is supporting products they make with updates well after they come out. And even after Asus stops giving updates for this tablet i think its got enough people behind it that the community will continue to contribute.
Probably doesn't matter a whole lot if asus moves on.
Seems to me there will be tons of customization as this model matures.
Just browse thru the millions of posts on the whole of XDA.
Folks are still tweaking 2 year old phones and tablets.
Heck the wife and me usually go about 2 years on tablets and 3 years on laptops.
Don't do like us...just use it till it melts down.
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Thats OK said:
Probably doesn't matter a whole lot if asus moves on.
Seems to me there will be tons of customization as this model matures.
Just browse thru the millions of posts on the whole of XDA.
Folks are still tweaking 2 year old phones and tablets.
Heck the wife and me usually go about 2 years on tablets and 3 years on laptops.
Don't do like us...just use it till it melts down.
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That's not really the point though. ASUS has effectively sold me a high end sports car that can only go 25mph on the highway. Looks and sounds impressive. Drives like A$$
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That's not really the point though. ASUS has effectively sold me a high end sports car that can only go 25mph on the highway. Looks and sounds impressive. Drives like A$$
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All these device makers have essentially abandon their work as soon as it appears on sale for consumption.
The attitude is the next best thing...
You'll never win that game.
why would they abandon it so soon? If they announce another tablet, would you buy it? Given that you already know how quickly they abandon devices?
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I sure hope it doesn't go anywhere, I'd hate to have to drop size and buy the nexus 7
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Having owned a TF Prime, Infinity, and now the Nexus 7 the 7 is a surprisingly capable tablet.
Although Asus has it's fair share of build quality issues my Prime was rock solid and it was the 1st batch (pre-order) to boot. However I like many Prime owners took the Best Buy loophole and got an Infinity as a replacement since Asus discontinued the Prime even though they said they wouldn't. The Infinity has a noticeably crisper display, better color representation, as well as some better pre-installed apps like the stock browser and keyboard when compared to the Nexus 7. Despite this if you are willing to give up 3" of screen real estate the Nexus 7 is a much more polished tablet and has increased mobility, as a guy I can still fit it in my jean pocket.
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That's not really the point though. ASUS has effectively sold me a high end sports car that can only go 25mph on the highway. Looks and sounds impressive. Drives like A$$
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Spot on, the Nexus 7 is the opposite in that it looks like a cheap, crappy car but it's been tuned out the a$$. The Nexus 7 not only uses a weaker version of the Tegra 3 but also uses slower ram than the Infinity but doesn't suffer from the same I/O and "browser not responding" issues, its amazing what optimization can do.
They are no stopping support for this tablet.... that is just silly. Like others have said, just check out their previous track record with their older devices.
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Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?
You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
MODS please move this
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.
The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.
Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/
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Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better
I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD
Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?
Hi
As much as I like my tf300 I am tempted to sell it because;
1. Guaranteed quick android updates
2. Higher Res screen more so than ipad 3 and tf700
3. Limited use of dock besides charging, stand and USB data transfer
I bought the tf300 because even in the UK where its £400 with dock. It was great value but 4 months on there is a lot of new products coming out very soon.
Anyone else tempted to sell or are their good reasons to keep it...what do you think?
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I think that I will buy this Nexus 10 aka "Manta" ( built by Samsung), but I'm still waiting to see all of their specs for taking my decision.
Ok it's confirmed:
Google reportedly set to announce 10-inch high-res Samsung Nexus tablet with Android 4.2
Yeah i agree about waiting for the confirmed specs aswell as price. Also waiting to see the new ipad mini.
Guess i'll know by the end of the week whether to stick or split so to speak.
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I think that I will buy this Nexus 10 aka "Manta" ( built by Samsung), but I'm still waiting to see all of their specs for taking my decision.
Ok it's confirmed:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/213533548/google-samsung-nexus-10-android-4-2-rumor
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Old link, I changed
You should check out all the problems the Nexus 7 is having with screen lifts. Meaning, the actual screen comes out of the encasing and people are having to glue it back in. Remember, you always get what you pay for. Except with the TF300, that was quite a deal. And since it only came out in April and since that time we've been given an unlocked bootloader and Jelly Bean.
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You should check out all the problems the Nexus 7 is having with screen lifts. Meaning, the actual screen comes out of the encasing and people are having to glue it back in. Remember, you always get what you pay for. Except with the TF300, that was quite a deal. And since it only came out in April and since that time we've been given an unlocked bootloader and Jelly Bean.
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The manufacturer is different this time is manufactured by Samsung, anyways it is always good to wait a couple of weeks on new devices see how they stack up in real use.
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Hi
As much as I like my tf300 I am tempted to sell it because;
1. Guaranteed quick android updates
2. Higher Res screen more so than ipad 3 and tf700
3. Limited use of dock besides charging, stand and USB data transfer
I bought the tf300 because even in the UK where its £400 with dock. It was great value but 4 months on there is a lot of new products coming out very soon.
Anyone else tempted to sell or are their good reasons to keep it...what do you think?
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What do you plan on doing with your Asus? I might do the same but not really sure where i could sell this tablet for a decent price besides ebay since it's not very a very big product here in the UK.
On topic though, buying a nexus 10 would mean no tegra games (some are great IMHO) and the high screen resolution may be more taxing on the process i think. At least it wouldn't have I/O issues (probably) and would likely be quite fast. Time will tell i guess.
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What do you plan on doing with your Asus? I might do the same but not really sure where i could sell this tablet for a decent price besides ebay since it's not very a very big product here in the UK.
On topic though, buying a nexus 10 would mean no tegra games (some are great IMHO) and the high screen resolution may be more taxing on the process i think. At least it wouldn't have I/O issues (probably) and would likely be quite fast. Time will tell i guess.
I was thinking about selling it on ebay also but I really dont want to let it go for less than 300gbp. Especially with all the fees ebay charge 10% + 10% paypal. So I am hoping to sell it on gumtree.
Tegra games are pretty awesome admittedly but the benefits of being nexus kinda outweight the little graphical advantages.
The i/o issue is dissapointing although it is better on some of the custom roms we really shouldnt have this problem.
Im assuming the processor will be pretty beefy hopefully to cope with the screen res but like you say time will tell. The deciding factor for me will probbly be price on the 'manta'. If it is around 400gbp for a 32GB version I will probably get it. Any more and it is unlikely.
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The best solution would be to have both :victory:
I just bought this tablet and would sell it in a heat beat for a 10" Nexus tablet. It must be 32GB minimum I don't understand why all the Nexus branded devices are 16GB ONLY. I played with the N7 and really like it and i mean really like it and at the price point it was sweet. Three reasons why i went with the TF300 was because i got it for the same price as a Nexus 7, 10" screen and 32GB + Micro SD.
The reason why there isn't huge sale on the Nexus brand is do to storage limitations in my opinion, I would have bought the Galaxy Nexus rather then an hTC if it had 32GB or 16GB + Micro SD.
16GB non expandable memory is just unacceptable, they should do what apple does and charge a little more for more memory.
back on topic if the TF300 did not have I/O issues it would have been the perfect tablet, I can't believe Asus can get away with this BS and still sell in stores without fixing. Its understandable that the first gen TF300 had this issue but this should have been addressed a long time ago./
You were lucky to get the tf300 at nexus 7 price! I got 10% of retail price so paid £360.
Would love to be able to own the manta and tf300 but i cant justify two tablets when i also own a galaxy note!
Thanks for your opinions people i think im set on the new nexus 10 depending on price.
Time to restore my tf300 to stock jelly bean!
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ABSOLUTELY.
I'm tired of dealing with this heap of junk and Asus' worthless support.
Nexus 10 - no dock, so I will stay on TF300T
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A couple specs http://briefmobile.com/nexus-10-design-revealed-in-leaked-manual
Didn't go for the nexus 7 because of no expandable memory and no hdmi support.
I can live with out the dock... kinda screwed myself updating to jelly bean and losing the option of aosp roms... or kinda got screwed by Asus.... posted an ad on kijiji today
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After seeing the leaked images of the nexus 10 Ive changed my mind that is one ugly looking tablet!
http://briefmobile.com/google-nexus-10-samsung-android-4-2
I will wait to see & use some win 8 products or just stay put till next year.
Bit underwhelmed with the nexus 10. How's the galaxy note 10.1? Better hardware than the nexus 10 and has some great features.
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The best of TF300T is the dock: extra battery and keyboard !!
The gap between the new Nexus 10" and the old TF300T is great in hardware speed, but... really we really need it ?
I dont´t think so, if the TF300T have a nice CM10 rom with the lastest kernel...could be enough for me.
Not me.
My next tablet/notebook hybrid will likely be a Windows 8 machine. Whether RT or Pro I don't yet know. Whether the new ASUS tablet or one of the Samsung ones, I don't yet know either.
The TF300 showed me just how awesome this form factor could be. I love it. But the truth is I use it in fundametally different ways from the way I use my 7" HTC Flyer tablet. And the ways I use it it just makes more sense to buy a Windows device.
Now, my next phone will be an Android phone and my next 7" tablet likely a Nexus 7. So I won't be abanding Android at all. I'll just be using what I see as the right tool for the job.
Is there any windows tablet with keyboard for about £400? They all seem quite pricey. Also, the review i read for the surface wasn't very positive.
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Both will feature tegra 4, 2560x1600,microsd,front & rear facing camera I assume new Asus will be unlockable but nothing is definite-
Do you think Toshiba will have better i/o?
I wouldn't mind a change but I will wait to see how it plays out ?
IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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legendary1022 said:
Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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You can order june 25 from toshiba direct
The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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I have the Toshiba Excite 7.7 and appreciate the locked thing Device works great though
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IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
sbdags said:
Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers.
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So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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ShadowLea said:
So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Not a fanboy, I lack a few dangling bits between my legs for that.
I do not regret my purchase at all. I have not noticed much in terms of lag, certainly not as much as people claim there to be. Compared to my GT 2 10.1, which I most certainly do regret buying, it is razorsharp and very smooth.
Maybe others are too proud to admit a mistake, but that is a male ego trait. I have neither pride nor ego, let alone the need to defend it.
All I meant was that it is a little lame to go on an Android forum to say Apple is better.
I bought the Excite Pro, good piece of equipment, some cons ofc but i'm really enjoying it, to bad about support though.
Toshiba is pretty bad for update efforts. My Toshiba Excite 7.7 is an example. Toshiba are also awful with making efficient firmware that does not bleed the battery while in sleep mode. Even with wifi off it bleeds more than most tablets. Wonder if same for the new T4 tablet.
Got the Toshiba Excite Write!
And it looks to be a damn fine tablet. Antutu scored 28k+ and the graphics power is phenomenal. Has built in video and audio enhancements, seems pretty stable on this kernal build, although I expect an update soon because of a couple of weird quirks. The stylus works great (love the eraser by turning over the pen!), but not as developed as the Note 10.1, however, the screen rez is fantastic at 320 DPI and looks as good as the Nexus 10. The rear camera is REALLY great...best I've seen so far on a tablet, and the speakers are clear as a bell with excellent surround sound controlled in hardware, so anything you play gets enhanced. It does get a little warm on the left side under the camera when running an intensive app.
If you have any questions or requests, fire away!
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From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
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Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
Thank you
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I pre ordered from Toshiba and they shipped it the next day even though it said they weren't shipping till the 18th. I guess they wanted to live up to the Excite part...lol
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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titou00075 said:
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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Our guess is as good as yours. They have been really quiet since the reveal. I would guess mid August for back to school season
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