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[Q] G-Tablet vs iPad2

I just saw a post on Anandtech comparing ipad2 and xoom starting a fire-storm of comments. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4216/apple-ipad-2-gpu-performance-explored-powervr-sgx543mp2-benchmarked/1
I looked up the benchmark details for the g-tablet, ipad1 and xoom on GLBanchmark, on cursory examination looks like g-tab compares very well with ipad2 and in some cases out performs ipad2. http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro20&showhide=true&certified_only=1&D1=ViewSonic%20G%20Tablet&D2=Apple%20iPad&D3=Motorola%20Xoom.
Can somebody cross verify this.
a) I'm not an expert in this field
b) I'm a proud owner of a G-tab so might well be biased .
Note: I have posted a similar comment in anandtech's comment section, but asking it here as this might be a more appropriate forum.
Thanks

What I personally have been seeing, as well as another member on Reddit, the gTab is benching better than the xoom, which would place it still worse than the iPad 2.
Edit: Source link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/g3yqw/after_seeing_the_xoom_benchmarks_i_decided_to/
Further edit: Are you looking for a comparison to iPad 2 or the original iPad? You mention both in your post, and the link goes to a comparison against iPad 1.

Sorry for the confusion.
My intended comparison is to ipad2. GLBenchmark still does not have iPad2 in their pull-down selection choices. Anandtech had a table comparing iPad1 & iPad2, so I had to eyeball between the 2 pages and used ipad1 just as a frame of reference.
thanks

No probs. The gTab is fairing well against the Xoom in those benchmarks, but there are some things the iPad can be better at. The gTab doesn't touch the iPad 2 in terms of benchmarks.
To be honest, I wouldn't get bogged down on specifics of benchmarks. While benchmarks can show how well a device can perform, they miss the most important thing. "Does the device work for you?"

Sorry saw the wrong column. yup g-tab no where near ipad2

There are a few things to consider:
The ipad2 is an ipad with a dual core cpu/gpu and 2 cameras, that's really it.
So far, from what I've been reading the ipad 2 graphics whips the tegra 2, however I have no clue how our dual core 1GHz CPU compares to the dual core A5 900Mhz running on the ipad2.
Furthermore, the ipad runs optimized code on optimized hardware...so ios has that bonus over honeycomb in every way. The ipad and ipad2 will always technically SEEM quicker in some respects vs. Android and Honeycomb/Froyo etc. because of that reason alone. Of course, the Gtab is actually faster than the iPad and that's quite visible when running multiple apps or viewing video.
That being said, it really boils down to how their a5 cpu compares to our t2. We know their graphics are faster at the very least. But our CPU may be a bit faster. I'm not speaking in terms of 900Mhz vs. 1Ghz. I'm speaking in terms of the optimized code I'm talking about. The iPad doesn't really need all that much raw power because all the software is optimized to run on it. It's also meant to sip power at that speed. Our t2 sips power by clocking all the way down. Thats the biggest difference.
It could be a situation where apps and cpu intensive processes may start/close and execute etc. quicker/faster for us - but games may look a bit better for the ipad2, as well as swishing around icons and 2D intensive stuff.
If you can put up with itunes, for $100 more you get a tablet that "just works" with a set it and forget it attitude and has 2 cameras. For $399 the G Tablet is a great value and a must have for tinkerers and those who prefer 'freedom' and choice.
Any comparison between both I think will really have to be on a person to person basis at this point; whereas if it were ipad vs. gtab I'd def. recommend Gtab based on power and the ipad based only on a "required" prerequisite of having a "better" screen.

I am not ipad fan as I have ipad for kids and have evo and viewaonic tablet as my android devices.
Love my evo which is the best phone in my opinion, but gtablet does everything well, but the quality of the screen, hardware and thiness of the device and battery life goes to ipad hands down.
Gtablet is really good, but it is heavy and ugly. Apple hardware have always been better looking then their counter part.
I have nice dell xps 1645, but it is still failed in compare to perfectly rectangular MacBook pro which I lust.
It will be always like comparing apple and windows.
Hope honeycomb can close the gap in usability compare to froyo and gingerbread for the tablet.
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rob_z11 said:
I am not ipad fan as I have ipad for kids and have evo and viewaonic tablet as my android devices.
Love my evo which is the best phone in my opinion, but gtablet does everything well, but the quality of the screen, hardware and thiness of the device and battery life goes to ipad hands down.
Gtablet is really good, but it is heavy and ugly. Apple hardware have always been better looking then their counter part.
I have nice dell xps 1645, but it is still failed in compare to perfectly rectangular MacBook pro which I lust.
It will be always like comparing apple and windows.
Hope honeycomb can close the gap in usability compare to froyo and gingerbread for the tablet.
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I don't understand how Apple products gets all the raves. Before I buy anything I always look at Apple and end up buying something else because I find them too low tech. The grayed out OS on the laptops plus the lower than most laptops on the market specs and closed architecture a real turn off on their laptops. I will take a PC any day with any operating system I choose to put on it and I do get that option. For me electronic equipment is all about having options.
The ipad is a real let down. All icandy, after you get past the screen and giant played out icons--what is this the third or fourth year we are seeing them on everything Apple, how much longer will they rock those tired icons? The swipe to the left and right and up and down could hardly compare to a processor running 3D operations. Spinning 3D carousals, live wallpapers and four to five homescreens. No comparison; if that was all the G Tab did, the benchmark scores would be off the charts or any other OS for that matter.
To each his own, just adding to the conversation. I tried to like Apple products but I just don't find them good enough. Who heard of a hard drive you couldn't yank out after purchase and replace with whatever you wanted along with the other components. I guess the Apple prison system is not for me. Don't want to stop anyone else from enjoying though. For me the cons out-weigh the pros.

Stop comparing Apples and Androids!
Version_3 said it correctly. Find out what works for you and use that.
I have both an iPad1 and G-Tab. Both have pluses and minuses.
For "getting things done" I use the iPad. For entertainment and satisfying my inner geek I use the G-Tab.
There is no use in comparing hardware specs since the operating systems on both are so dissimilar. What needs to be looked at is doing what you like in the manner in which you like it. Comparing the "software" against each other is also fruitless since each person interprets how the software works for them.
My personal observations are as follows:
iPad + iTunes = ease of use
G-Tab + ?? = not as easy
G-Tab + Google Apps = Totally awesome
iPad + Google Apps = unimpressive
iPad + App Store = easy to use and solid software
G-Tab + Market = not intuitive and flaky software
Battery Life = iPad
Camera = G-Tab (not too impressive though)
To each his own.
Note - my wife will not even touch the G-Tab since the days of force closing apps... It made a negative impression on her that wont go away soon... She loves the iPad because it "just works". Android needs to figure out a way to overcome those perceptions.

pgstormblade said:
Version_3 said it correctly. Find out what works for you and use that.
I have both an iPad1 and G-Tab. Both have pluses and minuses.
For "getting things done" I use the iPad. For entertainment and satisfying my inner geek I use the G-Tab.
There is no use in comparing hardware specs since the operating systems on both are so dissimilar. What needs to be looked at is doing what you like in the manner in which you like it. Comparing the "software" against each other is also fruitless since each person interprets how the software works for them.
My personal observations are as follows:
iPad + iTunes = ease of use
G-Tab + ?? = not as easy
G-Tab + Google Apps = Totally awesome
iPad + Google Apps = unimpressive
iPad + App Store = easy to use and solid software
G-Tab + Market = not intuitive and flaky software
Battery Life = iPad
Camera = G-Tab (not too impressive though)
To each his own.
Note - my wife will not even touch the G-Tab since the days of force closing apps... It made a negative impression on her that wont go away soon... She loves the iPad because it "just works". Android needs to figure out a way to overcome those perceptions.
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I also have a gTab running VEGAn beta 5.1.1 as well as an iPad 1. I have to say that you and I have opposite uses for our tablets it seems. While you use the gTab for play and your iPad for "getting things done" I find it difficult to use the iPad for work but rather find the gPad (with the ROM and apps I've purchased) much easier to accomplish work on.
As for iTunes... I find with DoubleTwist I can get by just fine on my gTab. The only time I honestly find myself using my iPad (got it for free from work and they pay for the data plan too) is when I want to keep my 20 month old and 4 year old busy with a Netflix video at the table while my wife and I enjoy a nice dinner out. They LOVE Shaun the Sheep and it keeps them mesmerized. Although I can rip those discs and play them on the gTab it's just simpler to stream Netflix on the iPad for them.
Now for the wife... I bought her a Nook Color since most of what she does is read on it. I've also ripped some "chick flick" dvds for her and put it on her Nook Color and it plays them fine too. And of course, with root she got her damn Angry Birds...
Like most electronic devices, both the gTab and the iPad fill different needs for different people. For me, the iPad is a consumer device where the users consume media (as long as it's not Flash) and the gTab (even with it's faults like the screen) allows me to truly leave my 30 pound work laptop (with charger) behind and still get work done.
In the end, like you said, to each his own...

I guess my 2 cents:
*Software optimization*
*Resolutions*
Neither of which the Xoom or G-Tablet have thats helping them in any way. Honeycomb is no where near what I would call optimized. Plus in my mind when I see a benchmark comparing 1440 x 900 to 640 x 480 I'm sure the fps in the lower will be a bit faster. Yes I am android fan but, I can't say that the A5 is bad or the results are totally farce. Time will tell, maybe a few months from now maybe Nvidia / Google will get their crap together before we see the Tegra 3's with the left out hardware.
Plus doesn't the Xoom have 27 native open gl extensions and the gl benchmark only found 21?
Ahhh benchmarks drive me crazy, they start wars.

Speaking of issues such as tap n tap slowing the tablet down to a crawl and FC, viewsonic is not a small company. Why in the world didn't their testers pick these things up?

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Speaking of issues such as tap n tap slowing the tablet down to a crawl and FC, viewsonic is not a small company. Why in the world didn't their testers pick these things up?
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Excellent question and I went to the tap n tap website which was an eye opener. Why in the world would they choose this for a device with so much hardware promise?
Good thing for them buyers were able to see past the bad decision and look at the big picture.
Software is changeable and hardware, particularly, on a device such as this--meaning tablet--is what it is. What you get, is what you get. Pretty much fixed unless you get into add ons and soldering.

[Q] Looking to buy a tablet

The choices I'm looking at area really just two:
iPad 2
Motorola XOOM
I am guessing that you'll all tell me to get the XOOM because, well, it's XDA developers. Although I'm kind of leaning towards that direction, I would like to have concrete reasons other than "Apple is evil".
The biggest problem I have with the XOOM is that it's not IPS, if it were I'd already have bought it. So for those of you who have the XOOM, is it's screen ok in terms of viewing angle? Cuz I'm just sooo sick and tired of weird colors or reversed colors from TFT panels. And I'm also really sensitive to minor inaccuracy in color, just makes me so mad. Thank god it has a 1280X800 resolution or it would've been out of question instantly.
The second biggest problem is design. I mean excuse me, most tablets except the iPad and iPad 2 look like ****. I think the XOOM is the only acceptable looking one, yet it has a crappy looking back side. The Samsung Galaxy tab, is one of the ****tiest looking product I've ever seen. Why? Not only because its stupid thick, the proportion of its size versus its screen size is ugly, and its display theme totally does not match its physical appearance. So all other Android tablets are out of the question, they just look like ****. Those of you who's studied art must know, that it's all about proportion, the golden mean and all that. Not the absolute size or design of anything in particular.
You may all hate the lack of personalization and the icon tile of iPad, but it is just soooo much more harmonious in terms of design and looks. Not that I'm gonna be unpractical but the difference is just so significant I can't ignore it.
The iOS also has a significantly larger number of apps at 65,000. Now I don't own any iOS devices so I don't really know how many of them are actually worthy of using. The last time I checked Honeycomb has like, what? 400? Even though I don't play games so I can exclude all the iPad games that still sounds like a huge difference. I'm not sure what that translates to.
Having said so many good things for the iPad 2, I have problems with it as well. I'm so frustrated, no product is perfect.
The iPad 2 doesn't have retina display, I hate the term retina, it's as if Jobs invented a new type of screen just be increasing resolution. But really, why haven't any phone yet to beat the iPhone 4? All I see is bigger and bigger screen, without any of them beating iPhone 4 in resolution. Shame on the Android phones. And yes, I love pixels period. Anyway, the iPad 2 resolution is a bit unsatisfactory, it's smaller than the 720p's 1280 in width, that's the most problematic. It should've been 1280X960.
I my self also have a problem with customization in iOS, and it's icon tile. I think although Android 2.x look stupid on tablets. Android 3.0 looks awesome, and it seem to function a lot better. I think my self as really good at electronics so I won't be frustrated by its complications as long as it's not stupidly designed like the BB PlayBook which I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out how to quit an application and failed, such a stupid product, bad looking as well.
So yea... only if the XOOM had IPS screen, a bit longer battery life, and a little less stupid back cover. It would've been perfect.

Why limit to just 2? Why aren't you looking at new android tablets from Samsung, Asus, LG etc.?

Asus transformer, dont wast your money on apple garbage

because they look like ****. unacceptable in appearance.

I use an Android phone. I got an iPad, in the end it is just a big iPod Touch to me and not much more. I gave it to my wife who use it as an e-reader. I got a netbook instead and installed Ubuntu in it, now I have a real portable computer instead of a computer wannabe. Battery life is good enough and easily beat any smartphone out there in continuous use.

I mean yea the iPad is a big iPod touch. But the idea is that, that is just what it is, and the fact that it is big alone is enough reason to get it.
I can also see how the Honeycomb OS is more powerful, computer wise, if you want it to be a computer which it really isn't, it's a tablet.
But then, Honeycomb doesn't have the high quality apps the iPad is already filled with. which means less functionality in that sense.

Functionality is what made me gave up iPad. What it can do my Android phone could do it too.
The only pro is battery life which is legendary for a portable.
Of course it all depends on your need, so I suggest you look into what sort of specific function are you looking for.
For me it was web browsing, what I hate about my phone is it can't handle some web pages properly, the iPad is no better, if not worse (no Flash). So YMMV.
But if you just want a tablet and care about look, iPad is the way to go.

Hi
Ok, At first I bought myself the Blackberry Playbook, its multitasking of the new QNX OS is amazing great, battery life is not as promised by blackberry. Than when they made an announcement that Android Apps will be delayed in the merger passed the summer, I exchanged it for a Motorola Xoom, I was never a big fan of Motorola but I will tell you, I love this freaking Tablet, its fast reliable. Only thing I am slightly disappointed is even on a fast wifi. It freezes videos on cnn.com and msn.com( those are the only two I have tried so far.) Youtube plays flawlessly on wifi, I also use the 4G hotspot on my HTC EVO to get the internet anywhere I go.
Battery Life: I have played games on it. to test battery and I will tall you I am happy. I took it to work Played Doodle jump and Fruit Ninja THD on it and I came home with battery still at half full. I do not have my Xoom now since my sister in law decided to steal it, it's been 2 days now and I called her earlier and she told me battery is still halfway full. This girl plays Poker Stars on the thing all day long so I am happy I have a reliable device. I just wish they made better cases for it and the speakers in the front not back.
PS: APPLE SUCKS!! lol.
Primarily I bought the tablet to take it to school and do work on it. If I am doing a PowerPoint presentation and I need to throw it to a PC I do not want to have an IPad in that situation. Because you cant do mass storage transfer. Only way of transferring the file is emailing myself. now if I have a WiFi only IPad that sucks if I have no internet connection to email it. Also if the file is bigger than 10MB you cannot email it to no one unless you separate the file into two or more. Thank you for open source
Also im not hating on apple products, I am hating on the people who make the OS which is so strictly locked down by apple.
Sure you can jailbreak, but not everyone knows how to do it, OR some people are to by the book and don't do it. OR they are plain Dumb

The XOOM is a great tablet, actually. The only downside is that since it's so new, it's native apps are a little glitchy and there aren't many apps for tablets on the Android Market. But both of those will be resolved soon.
Try out a XOOM, they're great.

I would honestly wait for maybe another 3-4 months- within that time frame there should at least another 3-4 highly competitive Android tablets running Honeycomb and it'll give time for more usage of the tablet version and some updates will be on the way. In fact Honeycomb 3.1 has already been confirmed to be released very soon.

Crazy991 said:
The XOOM is a great tablet, actually. The only downside is that since it's so new, it's native apps are a little glitchy and there aren't many apps for tablets on the Android Market. But both of those will be resolved soon.
Try out a XOOM, they're great.
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Good point- Xoom native apps are still little glitchy.
You could even check out the LG G-Slate (branded as the T-Mobile G-Slate). Has 3D (which i don't care for) and it's running very similar hardware to that of the Xoom. Only downside to this one is the cost and the lack of a wifi only version.

Crazy991 said:
Try out a XOOM, they're great.
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If you can handle the somewhat buggy Honeycomb on it, I agree. Not that it's bad by any stretch of the imagination, just has a few odd quirks.
Of course, this is xda, so I mean...modding it probably isn't entirely out of the question.
The iPad on the other hand "just works". My only gripe with it is the lack of expandable memory.
The decision really comes down to open vs. closed. If you want a more open device that you can tinker with, the Xoom is it. If you want something that just works, but is locked down pretty tight, the iPad is it.

Transformer vs. Iconia vs. Thrive

Just a quick overview: I was in Best Buy the other night, and fortunately, they had all 3 machines not only powered on, but also on WiFi. I couldn't resist this, since I'm beginning to seriously look at a 10" tab to replace my oft maligned (And rightly so) Gentough78. (Yeah, yeah.. I know) Anyway, having all 3 side by side was nice. Here's my thoughts:
Screen: The winner was the Thrive. It had very good contrast. The other 2 were completely acceptable though.
Case: I like the rubberized backing of the Thrive a LOT. That being said, it was a close 2nd place to the Xformer (Heretofore called the XF). Didn't care for the clunkiness of the Iconia.
WiFi performance: The Iconia stuttered a lot on the youtube video I was playing. The other 2 seemed to handle this just fine.
WiFi Tethering: The XF was the only one of the 3 that saw my hotspot on my Epic. This is a pretty big deal.
Snappiness: Hard to tell the diff between the 3, honestly. They were all nice.
Dock: Obviously this is an awesome on the XF
So... overall, as it stands, I'm seriously looking at the XF as my tab of choice. Just thought I'd share my thoughts here. How's the tun.ko working out on IPSEC VPN???

Fellow epic user! I was faced with the same decision and got the TF because of the hotspot issue. I have no regrets and i dont even have the dock. I use my stylus for most everything. I also like how the OS has no annoying UI over top.
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i currently have both the thrive and transformer and i have to say you are wrong, the IPS display on the transformer is noticeably better. It's richer in color and has better viewing angles. I am returning the thrive because its just too fat!

Either way, they are good choices. I really don't need the ports on the Thrive, and I really like the TF's weight and thinness compared to the Thrive since I usually throw it in my bag, or walk around carrying it in my hand when I'm using it as a Mp3 player (which is all the time). Since the Thrive has a LED screen, blacks are probably darker than on the TF but I haven't tested.

shubonker said:
i currently have both the thrive and transformer and i have to say you are wrong, the IPS display on the transformer is noticeably better. It's richer in color and has better viewing angles. I am returning the thrive because its just too fat!
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I agree, I found the TF screen to be superior. The only other andriod tablet I thought had a display that could compete with the TF was the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Did you check to see if the brightness setting where set to the same approximate
brightness.

You can't test anything in 20 minutes at best buy. They all are a tie because ech line has a feature specific to its self. I think it comes down to personal preference and how will it be used. I chose the Asus because of the free software Splashtop and Polaris, but do wn a Acer too. The Acer states hooked up to my TV with wireless keyboard and mouse to stream movies or surf the web.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

I made this thread to help kinda sort what each tablet has (most of them out there), might help you pinpoint.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AnAJoa0-ynONdE1TT1RSdTcxbmRFeE5mdl9jdzZDb3c&output=html

RojasTKD said:
Did you check to see if the brightness setting where set to the same approximate
brightness.
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Nope... should have. In all fairness, the screens were in pretty mucky shape too. They all had streaks and smudges from all of the dirty fingers of the crumb crunchers who had played with them. The 2 Xooms wouldn't even come on, so I didn't check them out (Although in all fairness, the $100 extra kind of excluded them anyway)
When I get a little closer to being actually able to afford one (I'm just over 1/2 way there now), I'll go give them a lot closer look, and I'll probably bring a microfibre cloth. I'd never let any of my screens get that nasty.
And I'll pay extra close attention to the viewing angles. That's something I hadn't thought of.

Robbzilla said:
Nope... should have. In all fairness, the screens were in pretty mucky shape too. They all had streaks and smudges from all of the dirty fingers of the crumb crunchers who had played with them. The 2 Xooms wouldn't even come on, so I didn't check them out (Although in all fairness, the $100 extra kind of excluded them anyway)
When I get a little closer to being actually able to afford one (I'm just over 1/2 way there now), I'll go give them a lot closer look, and I'll probably bring a microfibre cloth. I'd never let any of my screens get that nasty.
And I'll pay extra close attention to the viewing angles. That's something I hadn't thought of.
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The Xoom, the screen isn't as good as the others. The color temp and viewing angle are inferior.
http://dustinwilkins.com/2011/05/03/it-is-all-about-the-screen-transformer-vs-xoom/
http://androidforums.com/asus-eee-pad-transformer/327231-transformer-vs-xoom-screen.html
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/17404-screen-comparison-versus-a-xoom-with-pics/

I bought the Iconia and returned it. I just thought the plastic port area on the sites ruined the high-end feel of the brushed metal. And it was too heavy to comfortably hold while reading. I love the ports though. The Toshiba tablet was just too huge. My TF is great. But build quality is so-so; I got a squeeky area around the power button. No big deal though.

Asus TF has the best screen and the value-for-money dock
Iconia has the full size usb port
Thrive has the full size usb port and hdmi port but loses out on weight and bulkiness.
and all three devices uses the same SoC, the Tegra2 so i wouldn't compare performance.
and there are other scientific ways to test the WiFi performance than testing with a youtube video

jananan said:
Asus TF has the best screen and the value-for-money dock
Iconia has the full size usb port
Thrive has the full size usb port and hdmi port but loses out on weight and bulkiness.
and all three devices uses the same SoC, the Tegra2 so i wouldn't compare performance.
and there are other scientific ways to test the WiFi performance than testing with a youtube video
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Sure, but with a locked down market and running fast through the testing since other people were looking, it was the 1st thing that came to mind. I'm not a professional reviewer, I just play one on TV...

dude2k5 said:
I made this thread to help kinda sort what each tablet has (most of them out there), might help you pinpoint.
(Google Docs link in original post)
Hey Dude; terrific work.
Saved me the hassle
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I'd get the transformer. If you're referencing the BF deal then the Asus has 16gb for $250 while the Thrive is 8gb for $275. To me, that's no contest.

infinity vs ipad 3? help me decide.

So I'm a college student looking for a tablet to do some basic browsing, watch movies, and play some light games. I have already purchased an iPad 3 but then heard about the asus infinity, not sure if I should return it and get the infinity.
Things I like about the ipad:
Terrific screen, watching movies on it is incredible.
iOS is very smooth and bug free
eTextbooks are very convenient as I can mark them with Goodreader
Things I dont like:
iOS not as open as android(So far only missing game emulators and open file system that i have on my android phone, other than that iOS suits my needs... so far)
Things I like about the asus:
Android(for its open environment)
Better cameras
Faster Processor on paper
keyboard dock
Things I don't like:
Asus quality control is terrible compared to apple.
problems are already surfacing
battery life is much worse
Screen res not as high as the iPads.
So far android is far from perfect and lacks many tablet apps.
Aspect ratio is great for movies but is inferior for browsing and reading, portrait mode is kind of awkward.
Asus is blatantly mimicking apple with their packaging, their own form of smart covers, and their advertising videos(all the big names of the company in the video talking about the product, whole video giving off a feeling of a sophisticated yet elegant product) not that all this should matter.

Ipad3
The keyboard/battery is the only real advantage to the infinity
And i dont like apple

For what you need, just stick with iPad.

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That's quite the understatement. There's tons of things that an Infinity has over an iPad 3, but not all of them matter to everyone. HDMI/USB/SD ports, better multi-tasking, better screen brightness, file system, ROMs, emulators, floating apps (browser, video, notes, IM), controller support, and several other little things.
So to pick which tablet you want, it's all a matter of functionality. The Transformer series was made for bridging the gap of tablet/laptop, which is what made me buy it. The iPad is more bridging the gap between phone/laptop. iPads run very nicely, are definitely great quality, but you can never really dig into it and make the system your own. I've used iPads and while I enjoy them and it made a great accessory for sitting on the couch or the like, it could never come close to replacing my laptop, where the Transformer series can do that for the most part.
So for the OP, I probably would recommend an iPad because it seems they want more easy fun out of it than hacking and getting a million different uses out of it like people do with Transformers. Also, they seem to be a bit on Apple's nuts with that last bit in the post.

There's apps and tweaks on a jail broken iPad that surpass anything else in mobile in my experience. Amazing developers working in that. Better app store too. But you'll also be fighting with Apple all the damn time to have it. Personally I'm bored with iOS but it's still probably the best tablet going.
As of now you can jailbreak the iPad right out of the store in about 5 mins, it's so easy. That the won't last and then you wait again. If that matters to you. Also, there are a lot of bitter anti-apple people here it's asking for some trollish responses to ask that in the T700 forums. But maybe I'm happily wrong about that.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

If you think Apple products are bugfree then buy an apple product.
i don't like iTunes and as far as I know from my iPhone times, copying music and movies is only possible with iTunes.
It's much easier with the infinity. there you simply can connect your infinity directly to your windows network and copy whatever you want wherever you want. with VLC or another player you are able to play almost every file-format without converting

In my opinion, neither is "better" than the other - hell, like I said in another thread, you really can't even compare iOS and Android in an Apples-to-Apples (no pun intended!) comparison. They really are different beasts for different functions.
As already stated, Apple's hardware is very high quality, but then again, Apple devices are missing half of the hardware that the Infinity supports (HDMI, SD, MicroSD, keyboard dock, etc). Maybe Apple would have more hardware issues if they packed all of those devices in their iPad - who knows.
On the software front, iOS is very polished and stable but also very "locked down" compared to Android. Android apps scale much better than iOS apps, which makes the fact that there are less tablet-specific apps a little less painful since even apps written for phones look nice on Android tablets.
Also, keep in mind that iOS was written to support only a handful of devices while Android supports hundreds (or maybe even thousands) of different devices using different processors, different screens, etc, which is what makes it less stable on the software side (in my opinion, it's to be expected).
As already stated, if you just want to play games, watch movies and surf the net, the iPad is probably the better choice.
If you want a Netbook replacement as well as a nice tablet, then the Infinity is a better choice.
For me, it's a no brainer due to the dock. I actually own an iPad 1 and I loved it - until I got sick of Apples crap and noticed the Asus Transformer series! Never looked back and I do *not* miss dealing with Apple and iTunes!
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It is truly your preference between iOS vs. Android ecosystem.
Hardware specs are irrelevant in my opinion as in the end they seem to even out.
1. Screen resolution - Ipad 3 has better resolution on paper and it indeed has but as some reviews suggested the difference is much less noticible than from traditional tablet resolution to Infinity. Whether your eye can truly tell the difference or not, you really have to pull up probably two system side to side, but that's the only time you may notice.
2. CPU - Infinity has better CPU benchmark but GPU is better on iPad 3. Though no game at this point pushes to their limit so it won't probably matter.
3. Camera - Infinity has better camera, but do you really use tablet camera that much? It is never good as that of real digital camera.
4. Battery life - I only have iPad 2 but iPad 3 supposed give the same battery time as iPad 2. So based on this fact, I say iPad 3 should be much better battery life than the Infinity; however, infinity dock gives extra battery life. Adding the power of dock, infinity should have longer battery overall. Plus charging is much quicker on infinity than the iPad 3 (according to what I read, but it is true when compared to iPad 2).
So these hardware based features and I am sure other parts can be argued one way or the other. It all comes down to which ecosystem you like.
Personally, I chose (back) Android ecosystem. *Note: Some are hardware specific.
1. File System - I like to be able to organize files my own. I don't like iPad keeping same file copied at multiple locations for each applications.
2. Expandable Storage - I have many lecture video series with relatively large file sizes. I don't want to transfer/delete every time. Rather I like to carry around as a disk (in this case microSDs and quickly swap)
3. Applications - This may be perhaps what boils down to for everyone. For what I do, I like Android application selections.
For example,
A. Flash Card: I use Anki Flashcard application which is far the best flash card out there as it is cross platform; however, for iOS version they charge $20+; whereas, for Android it is FREE.
B. Ebook Reader: You mentioned GoodReader which is great PDF application on iOS but does not support Epub. Whereas, iBook has nice page flip realistic feeling Epub but their PDF support is terrible with no marking. So I had to use two applications to organize my ebook collections. Whereas, Android has Mantano reader.
C. Flash Support: It is true that Adobe is terminating the official support but Android currently plays it and unlikely to go away for a while. So until all the sites that I watch stream video becomes HTML5 compatible, I would rather have this feature.
4. True Multitasking - iOS's multitasking is very limited. It is highly controlled by Apple and for instance if you try to download a large file using browser, or other application, iOS terminates it quickly after you push the application into background.
5. Games - If this is what you are intending to use your table primarily, I say you should go with iPad. Selection on Android games are not as great as iPad and they lag in release.
6. Apple's Business Policy - They make great product that are not top notch spec-wise, but integrated so well and perhaps everything works in concordance and therefore bottleneck is not there; whereas, other devices have awesome and better spec but always have some bottle neck which hinders from other high spec components to hit its full capacity. But having said this, I don't like Apple's business policy with the way they keep suing, which to me seems to potentially hinder the advancement of technology. So yeah this is my personal opinion, but I am going for Android...
By the way, I do own MacBook Air, Iphone, and Ipad 2....
Now remember these points do not include jailbreak or rooting/custom firmware. Though I am sure they change the game quite bit but I am not familiar enough to make comment about these.

you say you want it to watch movies. well let me ask you, how do you plan to get the movies on the ipad? will they need to be converted? does your pc have to be on? can you connect a thumb drive/hard drive with movies on it, to your ipad, so that you dont have to turn on your pc? Can you go over to a friends house, plug your ipad into his/her pc and transfer their movies to your ipad?
for browsing, do you require sites with flash? would you mind being limited to just Safari?

If your buying a tab for movies and the TF700 is your best choice. I have iPad 1 2 and 3 in my house because my wife is a information and tech director for a school and she prefers the TF700 to all of them for vIdeo . She is waiting on a Note 10.1 to arrive to test as her district is dumping Apple since they have started using Google services last year.
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timrock said:
you say you want it to watch movies. well let me ask you, how do you plan to get the movies on the ipad? will they need to be converted? does your pc have to be on? can you connect a thumb drive/hard drive with movies on it, to your ipad, so that you dont have to turn on your pc? Can you go over to a friends house, plug your ipad into his/her pc and transfer their movies to your ipad?
for browsing, do you require sites with flash? would you mind being limited to just Safari?
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Goodplayer so far lets me play any video format. I simply just transfer it via iTunes and i'm good to go. No pre-processing needed. The investment for an HDMI dongle shouldn't be too much, and the browser Puffin works beautifully with flash. I also plan on jailbreaking if that makes a difference.
Don't get me wrong I love the infinity, If android could somehow integrate the app ecosystem of iOS that would be godly. I feel like the 16:10 ratio however is inferior to the ipads 4:3 not in watching movie but in overall tablet use.

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Goodplayer so far lets me play any video format. I simply just transfer it via iTunes and i'm good to go. No pre-processing needed. The investment for an HDMI dongle shouldn't be too much, and the browser Puffin works beautifully with flash. I also plan on jailbreaking if that makes a difference.
Don't get me wrong I love the infinity, If android could somehow integrate the app ecosystem of iOS that would be godly. I feel like the 16:10 ratio however is inferior to the ipads 4:3 not in watching movie but in overall tablet use.
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I feel like you've already made your choice, but I'll list the pros for the infinity over the ipad for me. With the keyboard dock you get a great increase in productivity (writing papers, general messaging) along with an increase in battery live. Let's not forget the benefits of the full sized USB port which lets you connect a 2 TB hard drive, a USB mouse or keyboard, or a PS3 or XBOX 360 controller for gaming. The iPad 3 can't do any of those. Let's also not forget the storage flexibility you get from a microSD and full sized SD slot. In the future we'll be able to dual boot Android, ubuntu and probably windows 8 when that comes out due to the unlocked bootloader. The iPad 3 is stuck on whatever apple allows, and they have a penchant for removing flagship features from their OS to drive new hardware sales. Finally although the jailbreaking community is nice, I feel the Android Dev community on Rootzwiki and XDA far outweigh that. You're going to be missing out on some glorious hackery and development. Anyway a lot of the tablet apps that I paid for on my ipad 2 generally have free counterparts on Android that do more due to the greater system level access. I suggest playing with one in Best Buy and deciding for yourself

Hasn't this subject been discussed at nausium elswhere. . . .
Mobile Tech review did a great head to head comparison:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Asus-Transformer-Pad-Infinity-TF700.htm
Quite honestly, me being a techy that likes to tweak and control things would never buy an Ipad (I do have an ipod touch though, which I got prior to getting going on Android), but I have also come to the relaization that some people don't know much about tech, don't need all the flexibility and power, and just want it to work should go the Apple route. I have stopped a long time ago trying to argue which one's better, especially since I end up doing tech support for them if I tell them to go Android. I plead the 5th if its Apple.

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Goodplayer so far lets me play any video format. I simply just transfer it via iTunes and i'm good to go. No pre-processing needed. The investment for an HDMI dongle shouldn't be too much, and the browser Puffin works beautifully with flash. I also plan on jailbreaking if that makes a difference.
Don't get me wrong I love the infinity, If android could somehow integrate the app ecosystem of iOS that would be godly. I feel like the 16:10 ratio however is inferior to the ipads 4:3 not in watching movie but in overall tablet use.
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16:10 is inferior to 4:3 Holy ****
Now I see why this thread was created
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16:10 is inferior to 4:3 Holy ****
Now I see why this thread was created
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16:10 is far superior in terms of movies and gaming. But for overall tablet use, it's much better. Can you find printer paper in 16:10 dimensions? It just makes its weird. Too wide and too short. 16:10 is very good for movies since it's closer to cinema aspect ratios of 2.35:1

ilostmypistons said:
16:10 is inferior to 4:3 Holy ****
Now I see why this thread was created
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I actually see some merit to the 4:3 argument for ebook reading, but not movie viewing or web pages so again it depends on your main use The comparison video above does discuss this at length too.
Never thought of it much but because of the aspect ratio differences I am not sure the Ipad 3 retna display is actully any higher vertical resolution(when in landscape) than the TF700 since it is a different screen aspect. Looking at the 2 side by side in the comparison, the Ipad 3 aspect looks odd to me, maybe because everything else is going widescreen.

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16:10 is far superior in terms of movies and gaming. But for overall tablet use, it's much better. Can you find printer paper in 16:10 dimensions? It just makes its weird. Too wide and too short. 16:10 is very good for movies since it's closer to cinema aspect ratios of 2.35:1
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LOL Go away
I'm gonna go set my 60" HDTV to 4:3 WTF
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>inb4 apple shills
Nevermind, too late. OS war thread? OS war thread.
Also, considering OP has already gotten an ipad, I'd say that its not a good deal to sell it. You've already wasted money, don't want to waste any more.
16:10 is god tier for everything, trust me, I've tried 4:3 and it's not good for anything. Its like I'm back in 1997.

I had the ipad 3 for 2 months. After the first week i was sick of it. I hate ios and its limited features. I jailbreaked it so i could change the damn theme, and i installed maybe 5 tweaks and the ipad became slow as ****. My first and last ipad or any apple products. Seriously for those who say ipad has a better build quality, i just have to laugh at you. After one week the bottom part burned because i was playing games for 30 minutes. I think it was because of smart cover since the ipad 3 becomes so hot when you play (little better after update came out, but too late). But both ipad 3 and smart cover are made by apple and lol they couldnt even make that right. Anyways, if you like ios and its limited features, then buy ipad. If you want awesomeness, buy Infinity.

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16:10 ratio is inferior to 4:3
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I just reread the thread and noticed your comment. Aha. Ahaha. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHQHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHOHGODMYSIDESAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA *INHALE INHALE* HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH *Drops dead from lack of air and multiple aneurysms *
You just killed a man. Happy now?
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What is the best tablet for me?

With Christmas fast approaching, I originally planned on purchasing myself an upgrade to my 2 year-old laptop. Yet, besides gaming which I am for the most part not particularly bothered about and can easily do still on the family PC, Xbox 360 or through OnLive, my current system proves more than capable for almost everything I can through at it - even if a bit slow on more laborious tasks such as video rendering (something which I have done only about three times in an entire two year period). Now, whilst this isn't a definitive decision, I think it may be nice to purchase a tablet for use downstairs as I dislike having to carry my laptop up and down to/from my room all the time especially when I want to just do a bit of light web browsing. Whilst the most obvious choice might be the Nexus 7 for most people, I own a Galaxy Note (which has a large 5.3" screen) and it is because of this that I don't see a 7" tablet as a worthy investment for such a measly increase in screen size. So, what do people here feel to be the best 10" tablet (so long as it will be publicly available in the UK by Christmas 2012)?

Are there specific features you want a tablet to have?

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Are there specific features you want a tablet to have?
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I must thank you, first and foremost, for such a quick response to this thread. Now, in terms of features, storage is one of my main criticisms over the Nexus 7 and for a tablet to be a true media device I would personally want it to have expandable storage via a Micro-SD card slot. Since my Galaxy Note already has a large 5.3" display, this tablet would have to be no less than 10" to even feel any more beneficial than just using my phone and, on the topic of displays, my past three phones have all had AMOLED displays with a very high resolution so a tablet would need a fairly decent resolution else it'd be left behind my Note. Although I may never utilise it as I certainly haven't needed nor wanted to before, the ability to mod easy (no locked boot-loaders or stuff like that) would be nice.

I did look at the latest iPad at one point in time and, whilst its quality app market, high-resolution screen coupled with a sleek design and upcoming support of Siri make it all very desirable, the lack of true multi-tasking seems a killer for me. I like the ability to quickly flick between an internet browser and an office program, for example. This has allowed me, in the past, to even complete homework tasks for school on my Galaxy Note.

Well if price isnt an issue, The brand new infinity has the best display out of any android tablet, and is super fast. Plus the dock is awesome. If price is a concern, you can still get an older prime + dock for around 400. But 10" might be too much, I personally think it is. I think 8.9 is a happy medium. But if you dont want a tablet, chromebooks are awesome

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Well if price isnt an issue, The brand new infinity has the best display out of any android tablet, and is super fast. Plus the dock is awesome. If price is a concern, you can still get an older prime + dock for around 400. But 10" might be too much, I personally think it is. I think 8.9 is a happy medium. But if you dont want a tablet, chromebooks are awesome
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Aren't Chromebooks basically just laptops, which I already have one of? And, 8.9 inches isn't enough of a size increase over my Note still. I would want a 10" tab. And, as of the last time I checked, the Infinity is around £650 GBP or so. That is even more than an iPad! Plus, I have no use for a keyboard dock.

Brad387 said:
With Christmas fast approaching, I originally planned on purchasing myself an upgrade to my 2 year-old laptop. Yet, besides gaming which I am for the most part not particularly bothered about and can easily do still on the family PC, Xbox 360 or through OnLive, my current system proves more than capable for almost everything I can through at it - even if a bit slow on more laborious tasks such as video rendering (something which I have done only about three times in an entire two year period). Now, whilst this isn't a definitive decision, I think it may be nice to purchase a tablet for use downstairs as I dislike having to carry my laptop up and down to/from my room all the time especially when I want to just do a bit of light web browsing. Whilst the most obvious choice might be the Nexus 7 for most people, I own a Galaxy Note (which has a large 5.3" screen) and it is because of this that I don't see a 7" tablet as a worthy investment for such a measly increase in screen size. So, what do people here feel to be the best 10" tablet (so long as it will be publicly available in the UK by Christmas 2012)?
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I recommend a used iPad Wifi/3G model

Iph0ne27 said:
I recommend a used iPad Wifi/3G model
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But, if you read later on, you'd know that I dislike the lack of multi-tasking on an iPad. Plus, I have grown accustomed to Google's wealth of services and the Android OS.

Web browsing on a tablet sucks, which will you will soon find out. Keyboard dock helps 100 fold, and the chromebook is just a webbrowsing net book. Its so light and small its not like a hunky laptop, and doesnt get hot. And you can buy an infinity for ~500$ on here. Or evne a regular transformer for around 350

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Web browsing on a tablet sucks, which will you will soon find out. Keyboard dock helps 100 fold, and the chromebook is just a webbrowsing net book. Its so light and small its not like a hunky laptop, and doesnt get hot. And you can buy an infinity for ~500$ on here. Or evne a regular transformer for around 350
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How does web browsing on a tablet "suck"?
Isn't that one of their primary functions?

Closed use proper Q&A section