Buying advice - One S vs. One S C2 - HTC One S

Hi,
I'm about to replace my venerable HTC Desire and the HTC One S came as a natural replacement. The One X is way too big, the One V is lower-spec'ed.
I'd have a few questions regarding the One S:
- what's the difference between the One S and One S C2? Specs seem to indicate a different processor with a higher speed for the C2
- are there any constraints / limitations regarding the unlocking / rooting / flashing of these phones?
- is there an issue if the phone is "branded" but not network-locked with regard to the above? My girlfriend has a HTC Wildfire which was also a branded version - rooted without issues, happily running CM7 for 1+ year.
I'm reasonably technical-minded and can find my way around a decent HOWTO if needed.
Thanks.

The C2 is actually slower despite the higher clock speed. The C2 uses a Snapdragon S3 chip, whereas the original uses a Snapdragon S4. The S4 a decent bit more powerful than the S3.
Most ROMs that are out are for the S4, so if you can get the S4 model, get it.
As far as unlocking goes, on most if not all of them, you can unlock the bootloader (via HTCdev.com's unlock procedure), but you cannot attain S-OFF, at least for now.
Having the unlocked bootloader and a recovery such as TWRP will allow you to flash the radio, custom kernels, ROMs, etc.

The One S has the newer, faster, cooler, better S4 CPU. The C2 has the older S3 chip. The S3 has been clocked to 1.7GHz but it is still nowhere near an S4.
There are more MODs, recoveries, ROMs, etc.. for the S4 than the S3, and the support is generally better for the S4.
If you have the choice, get the S4. It's much more desirable.
-Jobo

What they said + branded should not be a problem, it'll all be gone with a custom ROM. I never felt my Desire was slow until I got my One S but it is a world of difference

Thanks fellows, the non-C2 it is then.
The price is roughly the same here, so I'll just go for the better One (S).

Hi i am thinking of the some thing!Going from desire to one s,but the only thing i am consern is does the htc one s do the trick about battery??Spending money now or waitng for better battery models?By the way i am in love with the phone but lot affraid that battery will be disapointing.. :/

Well, I have a C2 model and until today I never managed to get the battery completely empty on a regular day (which means normal usage with Phone, Whatsapp, Email etc)
If you dont plan to play games on your One S 24/7 the battery should fully satisfy you I guess!
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Looking to upgrade from desire s.

Well I was looking for an advice , I don't have anyone else to ask so I come here , hope It's okay.
Anyways , I wanted to upgrade from my ds to a sensation xe or galaxy nexus but I was wondering if it is really worth it..
I love the community here , great devs and etc but a small bar on my screen isn't working and its almost impossible to use the phone :/
Now o have few options , either to upgrade either to fix my phone. I like the fact that we are getting ICS..
Any opinions?
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Both those are already old devices. Best look at a HTC One S if you can live with the 16gb internal memory, or the HTC One X if you want the flagship for 2012.
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What do you mean by a small bar isn't working?
Agree with above comments regarding upgrade.
I'd say fix (especially if it could be done cheaply or even better under warranty) and then consider replacing in six months
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
You see , my budget is limited to around 400 , 500 dollars at best. (Selling my device and the regular desire )
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i second wnp_79 advice, the HTC One X with its quad-core processor and 1.5gb ram is the one too look out for.
i think the next best thing for you would be the Nexus or could you wait for the Samung Galaxy s3.
All these new phones coming out, its an exciting time for the Android platform!!!
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
I would say go for one s its a superb phone had it for 2 hours with me....
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
Bewinxed said:
Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
What do you mean by "developer phone"?
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
Do what you're saying is that I should stay with the desire s a bit of more time?
I like sense , especially the 4 lite version but I have no problem with the stock android.
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Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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dan-fish said:
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
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Turns out that the store is being refurbished, and Samsung is paying for part of it
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If it's not a problem, and you can fix its screen problem cheaply - yes, I think it'll be better. Unless you really want to spend money - in this case, all the One X/S talk is irrelevant, and your options are Sensation or AT&T Galaxy S2 - pick whichever you like.
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mmmcfc said:
The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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Buggy like hell, at least the Sense. It's like saying HD2 has every possible ROM ported to it - true, and they were all in semi-functional state since Froyo - so they're worthless. Much like the current ICS ports all around the MSM8x55-based device forums, which are useful only for people that don't use half of their phones' capabilities. But with a small difference - those devices, at least DHD and DS, will get a fully functional ICS, because it'll be officially released for them, while Nexus devices will most likely never get a stable ROM, if I can judge by what happened until now.
Jack_R1 said:
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
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Aah i see, at first i thought it was a phone for dev only, kinda like for testing purpose. Thank for the info mate.
Arcaneex said:
Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Well i put up my Desire S for sale for 270JDs (about 300$?) and someone offered to exchange mine for his for 80$, not a bad thing i'd say, and i've already had it with this phone =.= (not the desire S itself, just the one i have), so i guess it'll be allright, i just need to find the money now hahaha
i'd like a bigger screen, bigger battery, and i'm a sucker for black/red, also them beats headphones ;D;
although the battery drain will go with the hardware, i think it'll be a bit better than my DS
i think galaxy nexus is a good choice
Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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Made for some interesting reading... appreciate the time taken, and agree with the content therein.

[Q] Which to choose?

I posted this in the One X forums and have no replies and 63 views. I hope you guys can help me with my dilemma. I bought the Inspire off contract at the end of Feb last year and loved it. Qualified for my upgrade in Dec and upgraded to the Vivid near the end of Jan and love it. The One X is the phone I am wanting. That being said I've only used Snapdragon processors and stuck with HTC. Internally, the AT&T version is identical to the Vivid, minus the S4 processor. I will be selling my Inspire to help get this phone, as I have to pay full price whichever route I go. I will have the full price for either device next month and would like to know which I should get? I am really not concerned with LTE as my area won't have for at least another year and I'm always on WiFi. The T3X I can get for $670, the AT&T S4X I will be able to get for $550. Rooting does not concern me at this point, my Inspire is rooted and my Vivid is still locked and stock. Can you please help me with this decision? I don't want to have buyers remorse later this year. I look forward to hearing your opinions.
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If you live in a Lte area or upcoming Lte area, this decision should
be a no-brainer imo. I personally would take the s4 soc over the tegra3.
s4x > t3x imho
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If you live in a Lte area or upcoming Lte area, this decision should
be a no-brainer imo. I personally would take the s4 soc over the tegra3.
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Nope, live outside of Memphis. They won't get LTE for at least another year, and we will get it prolly another year after that. I'm mostly on WiFi on my LTE capable Vivid.
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So, regardless of being only on WiFi, you all would say still get the S4X? Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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ZeroRilix said:
Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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I think you just answered your own question.
I say go with the S4 version since it will be cheaper. A lot of people will use their AT&T upgrade on the phone just to flip it on Ebay for a profit. You will be able to get the S4 version of the One X for under 500.00.
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ZeroRilix said:
So, regardless of being only on WiFi, you all would say still get the S4X? Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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Red5 said:
I think you just answered your own question.
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Lol... Just wait for the at&t version. From what I've read, the one XL
has rock solid battery life with Lte. Hopefully that statement is true.
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
NardVa said:
I say go with the S4 version since it will be cheaper. A lot of people will use their AT&T upgrade on the phone just to flip it on Ebay for a profit. You will be able to get the S4 version of the One X for under 500.00.
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Yeah with some luck and patience, you should be able to find one
for under 500$ once it's released.
mesasone said:
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
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Yup. Was going to pick one up on ebay a couple of days ago because
of that, but I decided I prioritize Lte and the s4 chip more.
It will have ****ty bloat and the logo but I'm cool with that. (It will get
removed ). You're in a no-lose situation if you decide to pick up the
one x or one xl.
mesasone said:
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
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Coming from an Inspire prior to the Vivid, I do value XDA developer support. However, without S-Off I refuse to root my Vivid. However, we are real close to that now. Short term, I don't mind running the phone stock, as that's what I did with my Inspire and now Vivid. I just waited til Thanksgiving to root my Inspire. Once the S-Off process for the Vivid is out, I will finally root it. So, I don't mind using the S4X stock until S-Off, if it ever is, achieved.
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Coming from an Inspire prior to the Vivid, I do value XDA developer support. However, without S-Off I refuse to root my Vivid. However, we are real close to that now. Short term, I don't mind running the phone stock, as that's what I did with my Inspire and now Vivid. I just waited til Thanksgiving to root my Inspire. Once the S-Off process for the Vivid is out, I will finally root it. So, I don't mind using the S4X stock until S-Off, if it ever is, achieved.
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The Vivid's S-OFF process will require HTCDev Unlock to work, but with S-OFF you can conveniently change the **UNLOCKED** flag to **LOCKED**.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
The Vivid's S-OFF process will require HTCDev Unlock to work, but with S-OFF you can conveniently change the **UNLOCKED** flag to **LOCKED**.
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Actually look in the Vivids dev section. We have a couple devs with an actual s-off procedure in beta right now
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast.
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Um, no. That is not how multi-core processors work. Seems like you've fallen for marketing gimmickry, instead of actual facts. Few apps, if any are optimized to take advantage of 4 cores, so the only benefit you see is in running processes in the background, switching between tasks, and the like.
If you look at the benchmark comparisons, the S4 beats Tegra 3 in most of them. Some will argue that Tegra 3 wins in some benchmarks, so the difference is probably marginal, either way. But S4 may win for battery life, and Tegra 3 is also having lots of issues on the One X (as you mentioned).
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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I have the international One X. If I had a choice, I'd go with S4 over Teg3. It's a much more modern and efficient chip and from benchmarks performs almost equally. Battery life on the One X so far is pretty terrifying where the One S with the S4 chip seems to fare much better (but it doesn't have a mammoth display either). The international One X is also experiencing some bizarre graphics and performance issues which are probably Teg3 related as the Asus Prime had similar issues until it received a couple of updates. Since LTE is now integrated in to the SoC the One XL should probably have the best battery life of any LTE device currently available.
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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The Snapdragon S4 which is a Cortex A15 level SOC and a new micro architecture is more powerful. In most tasks the Snapdragon S4 will be the faster of the two. And in quite a few head to head tests, the S4 literally destroys The Tegra 3. The Tegra 3 is a Cortex A9. Like comparing a old Core 2 Duo to a Intel Sandy bridge chip.
The one XL with the snapdragon S4 will most likely be the fastest SOC CPU wise probably until next year or late this year other than other phones running that chip. There isn't a Cortex A15 due on the horizon until that time later this year. OMAP 5 will be such a SOC. And even it will probably be only on par with the snapdragon S4 not out gun it. And than you have the Exynos 5250 which is a quad core cortex A15 later this year or next year. But than again Qualcomm has the Snapdragon S4 Pro, a quad-core A15 level chip to match it.
That means the Galaxy S3 will still be most likely running a 32nm-based Cortex A9 Exynos mobile processor, the Exynos 4212. The Exynos A15 based 5250 will not be ready until later this year. There is a slight chance it will make it into the Galaxy S3 but the chances are slim since they have not produced any in any numbers for production and the S3 will be released soon. The Exynos 4212 is similar to the Tegra 3 but with a better GPU.
The iphone 5 will run the A5X a dual core Cortex A9 with a quad core GPU at 32nm. Again, older microarchitecture.
So essentially the Snapdragon S4 will make the One Xl one of the most powerful if not the most powerful smartphone for the foreseeable future. Regardless of the Samsung S3 and the iphone 5 if they run the above mentioned SOC's. Which most likely they will.
Hardware wise the One xl will have few equals. Other than the 16GB of memory, it is a beast.
There are some reports of issues with the One X international version connecting properly to AT&T's HSPA network, despite having the proper band compatibility (850/1900 MHz). Also, Tegra 3 is having some video corruption and other issues.
I too was slightly considering the international version for use on AT&T, due to the increased storage, and potentially more developer support. And also probably better battery life by using HSPA instead of LTE. But the issues with the international version so far have me deciding against it.
I was worried about the 16 gb storage as well until i used the one XL for the few days that I actually had in our offices. Dropbox is so tightly integrated with The OS that you don't even know that you don't have more than 16 GB on the phone that's how integrated it is.
I uploaded a bunch of photos to the gallery and every time I went to the gallery to retrieve them they were instantly they're like the pictures were on the memory the whole time! don't worry you have plenty of space as long as you keep your photos and videos to drop box. and 25gb is plenty
ZeroRilix said:
Actually look in the Vivids dev section. We have a couple devs with an actual s-off procedure in beta right now
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Yes, I'm saying that juopunut S-OFF uses HTCDev unlock as a part of its exploit, you need your bootloader to be unlocked before you can get S-OFF.

[Q] Guidance Please.. Totally Confused

Hey guys,
I am planning to get a new android phone.. I am quite confused :\ Actually I own i9003 right now.. and the way samsung has treated to i9003 users I really hate samsung
Now coming to point I have shortlisted a few options.. And I really want a phone which can atleast last for 14-15 hours with Data+ auto sync on.. well screen won't be on all the time.. ( I prefer phone which are on / will get ICS or may be jelly bean very soon)
1. HTC One X
2. Samsung S3
3. Motorola Razr Maxx (GSM version)
4. Samsung Note
You can suggest a good phone if you know .. Btw I am from India so I don't have a wide choice as US though but still suggestions are most welcomed.
Please if you give your valuable opinion I will be really appreciating your time. Thanks in advance
Go for a HTC One X or Samsung S3, they got ICS out of the box, latest processors. I would probably choose HTC One X because it got nicer design and Tegra 3 chip inside but if you want a better battery, go for Samsung S3
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I m from india too.
I would go for one x if i was in your place...
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Thanks AzharYusri and prateek7791 for your opinion
Would also go for the one x. Actually have a version from India. Phone is beautiful
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I would go for the Samsung Galaxy S3 it was the best decision I made! I was gonna get the One X but heard battery life was terrible
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If you're into rooting and flashing custom roms, I have heard Samsung is easier to root and flash. So for that reason I would suggest Samsung SIII.
Plus the removable battery is a big factor for me, as I have a SII and change batteries very frequently when one dies.
its a matter of preference
well.. here's what i can say about the device.. so its really going to be your choice or basically your own preference..
1. HTC One X
pro - nice polycarbonate body, ICS out-of-the-box, quality build, tegra3 quad-core proccy which is good for gaming (but is only available for the international version, NA versions have the Krait dual-core version)
con - not really good battery life, non-removeable and non-replaceable battery
2. Samsung S3
pro - nice vibrant AMOLED 720p screen, ICS out-of-the-box, removeable and replaceable battery (option to get a larger capacity battery), newer Exynos quad-core with a new MALI GPU
con - plastic build (but who's really looking at the back of the phone right?), better battery life due to a large battery
3. Motorola Razr Maxx (GSM version)
pro - HUGE battery life, very little bloatware (but who cares if your gona root and install custom ROMs)
con - locked bootloader, dual-core processor (compared to newer models in its league)
4. Samsung Note
pro - HUGE AMOLED screen, S-pen, S-pen applications, thin and lightweight for its size
con - dual-core processor, bad battery life with the stock battery when browsing the web
*correct me if there is anything wrong with my comments.. :angel:
U can try HTC explorer coz it has good battery backup using 1.5 days with data on always and moreover it is a good decent budget phone too:highfive:

I'm thinking of leaving Bada and buying an Android. Maybe this One S..?

Good morning.
I owned a Samsung Wave S8500 for the last two years and a Nokia E6 (one of the best phones I ever had).
After two years I feel sad because my Wave has a great hardware, but Samsung abandoned it, and the applications are still few, so I was thinking to buy an Android.
I'm searching for a phone with these features:
-support from community for a long time with ICS, JB, KLP (I would like to keep this phone for at least 2-3 years).
-good battery performance (my E6 lasts at least 2 days with data always on, so I hope that the battery will last for 1,5 days)
-I don't want a huge phone like the GNexus\SIII
So, One S owners, do you think that this phone fits for me?
Are there enough optimized roms?
Thanks a lot
I'd avoid it for now as most versions are now using the S3 chip. The S4 chip is the better version. Although a good phone wait a few months new releases will push down prices of current models.
You'll have a good choice to choose from in the last quarter of the year.
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nikzDHD said:
I'd avoid it for now as most versions are now using the S3 chip. The S4 chip is the better version. Although a good phone wait a few months new releases will push down prices of current models.
You'll have a good choice to choose from in the last quarter of the year.
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Here in Italy most of the One S are S4, and I'd bought it used because I can find it at 330 euros.
I don't want to spend 500 euros for a phone. I'd like to spend at the most 350 euros...
It's a good phone, but if you get the One S with the 1.7 GHz S3 processor, you might as well go with a Sensation and S-OFF the device for many more custom ROMs.
You could kiss your awesome Nokia battery life days good bye. I was the same (coming from the E71 though).
Android is power hungry but if you dont use your phone alot you could get a MAX of 2 days (my own experience with the one s with wifi on but not data).
If you want long term rom development, I would go for the GS3. With HTC releasing the one s with different socs it only hurt development and we don't know if the s3 soc is going to be the way forward.
I truely miss my Nokia but I don't see myself going for Windows Phone soon.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
It's a good phone, but if you get the One S with the 1.7 GHz S3 processor, you might as well go with a Sensation and S-OFF the device for many more custom ROMs.
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I'd prefer to buy a recent phone, so I can keep it for at least 3 years. And as I said before, here in Italy most of used One S are S4.
Pheroh said:
You could kiss your awesome Nokia battery life days good bye. I was the same (coming from the E71 though).
Android is power hungry but if you dont use your phone alot you could get a MAX of 2 days (my own experience with the one s with wifi on but not data).
If you want long term rom development, I would go for the GS3. With HTC releasing the one s with different socs it only hurt development and we don't know if the s3 soc is going to be the way forward.
I truely miss my Nokia but I don't see myself going for Windows Phone soon.
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The GSIII and GNexus are too big for me. I like phones thar are pocketable and the One S is so slim that fits perfectly in my pocket, while with the GSIII I can't lift my leg...
You could try whit razr maxx...same one s screen size and resolution, but triple battery life
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From what you have said there, the one S sounds like your best bet. It is kind of pointless buying any devices at the minute though as we should be getting a number of new nexus devices around November as well as a few other phones by HTC etc. but they will most likely cost £400+
The only other alternatives, although not as good overall, are the GS 2 and xperia S.
The developing community should be good and going strong for at least another year and still be some activity for another year. 3 years hard to say.... most people get a new phone every year or 2 and some every few months.
Even if you did get the S3 version, the one S is still good and better than most other phones, in real world usage the biggest impact would be the battery life.
As I replied in another thread comparing against the desire S and sensation XE, the same will apply when compared to the sensation and in some areas also against the GS 2 and xperia S etc., maybe just not as much of a difference in a few things i.e. the camera quality:
Terminator19 said:
Eh?
It is still far better than a desire S even with the S3/adreno 220 and better than the XE (apart from storage options and you have removable batteries with them), excluding the GPU/CPU:
- far better camera overall, absolutely no contest between them
- way better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- better screen overall (although some might prefer LCD on the XE and DS)
- battery life will still be better anyway
- more RAM
- much better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- also another wee plus is that you will get more money when you sell the one S rather than the desire S and XE in a few months time or a year in order to fund for a new phone
Only reason to get the DS or XE is for a removable battery and SD slot and perhaps a better developing community (no idea what it is like for them)
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Bada sucks, buy the One S!
Terminator19 said:
From what you have said there, the one S sounds like your best bet. It is kind of pointless buying any devices at the minute though as we should be getting a number of new nexus devices around November as well as a few other phones by HTC etc. but they will most likely cost £400+
The only other alternatives, although not as good overall, are the GS 2 and xperia S.
The developing community should be good and going strong for at least another year and still be some activity for another year. 3 years hard to say.... most people get a new phone every year or 2 and some every few months.
Even if you did get the S3 version, the one S is still good and better than most other phones, in real world usage the biggest impact would be the battery life.
As I replied in another thread comparing against the desire S and sensation XE, the same will apply when compared to the sensation and in some areas also against the GS 2 and xperia S etc., maybe just not as much of a difference in a few things i.e. the camera quality:
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I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
stragent said:
Bada sucks, buy the One S!
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I'd prefer to say that Samsung sucks
Bada 2 years ago was a pretty decent and promising OS, but Samsung forgotten it.
And the Wave has still a pretty good hardware.
Alan Slade said:
I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
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The XS isn't as powerful as the S4 one S either. The screen is 720P, although I personally think the overall quality of the screen regarding colours etc. is pretty poor (although that is just my opinion, most people love it). Battery life isn't great iirc. The camera is very good, better than the GS 2 iirc, although is it better than the one S overall, probably not, the 1080P capture will be better though. Essentially:
Pros of the S (S4 version):
- better camera overall
- much better CPU/GPU
- better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- colours of the screen
- battery life
- better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- IMO sense V4 is far better
Pros of XS:
- much much sharper screen
- better 1080P recording
- more internal storage
- NFC
- possibly getting JB, SE are very good with updates, however, they do take a long time to get them out
Terminator19 said:
The XS isn't as powerful as the S4 one S either. The screen is 720P, although I personally think the overall quality of the screen regarding colours etc. is pretty poor (although that is just my opinion, most people love it). Battery life isn't great iirc. The camera is very good, better than the GS 2 iirc, although is it better than the one S overall, probably not, the 1080P capture will be better though. Essentially:
Pros of the S (S4 version):
- better camera overall
- much better CPU/GPU
- better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- colours of the screen
- battery life
- better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- IMO sense V4 is far better
Pros of XS:
- much much sharper screen
- better 1080P recording
- more internal storage
- NFC
- possibly getting JB, SE are very good with updates, however, they do take a long time to get them out
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I don't need a good camera on the phone, because I'm a photographer
As I said that I prefer the One s on the XS and GSII, and your post tell me that I've chosen right
For the updates, I think I'll use one of the roms on this forum (but first I must understand hot to root, install a recovery and so on lol), like the ViperOneS etc. and not the stock rom.
I haven't rooted my S, so can't really advise but the guide here seems to be very good and rather easy to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Terminator19 said:
I haven't rooted my S, so can't really advise but the guide here seems to be very good and rather easy to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
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When i bought my One S i used that tutorial to Root, install CWM and later Viper One S Rom. It's an amazing phone.
I'm not a fan of S3 version (overclock and battery don't go well together.) It's contact linking and sync capabilities i think they are better than GSIII. Fast and reliable and the tweaks make it even better.
Alan Slade said:
I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
I'd prefer to say that Samsung sucks
Bada 2 years ago was a pretty decent and promising OS, but Samsung forgotten it.
And the Wave has still a pretty good hardware.
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+1
I gave my wave to my gf as she does not use whatsapp. Pretty fine built phone, great hardware (even nowadays 1GHz single core 5 mpx cammera phones are launched) and smooth OS, but with no support.
Good evening to all.
Finally I decided to buy a One S. It will arrive on monday.
As I said before, this will be my first Android phone, so I don't know anything about flash, bootloader, roms, kernels and so on,
I would like to try the ViperOneS rom (because everybody seems happy with it), but I don't know how to install it.
Also, is the Fusion Ultimate kernel good\necessary? Are this rom and kernel stable so I can have a good experience with this One S without problems?
Where I can find a guide to find out how to do this properly thing without bricking my phone? :fingers-crossed:
Thanks
No one can help me?
Alan Slade said:
No one can help me?
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Hey just check out this thread read the instruction thoroughly and you should be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
Alan Slade said:
Good evening to all.
Finally I decided to buy a One S. It will arrive on monday.
As I said before, this will be my first Android phone, so I don't know anything about flash, bootloader, roms, kernels and so on,
I would like to try the ViperOneS rom (because everybody seems happy with it), but I don't know how to install it.
Also, is the Fusion Ultimate kernel good\necessary? Are this rom and kernel stable so I can have a good experience with this One S without problems?
Where I can find a guide to find out how to do this properly thing without bricking my phone? :fingers-crossed:
Thanks
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I don't know if the kernel is good (I've never tried it), but it is not necessary to install it.
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if i was you i would wait for the next nexus
when i got the One S i thought the devs would just buy it immediately but for some reason they went after the stupid One X
( OmG quad COORE is faster than DUeL buy buy )
just wait for the next nexus and ull keep getting faster updates than anything else

Wondering if I should buy One S. Any useful information is welcomed!

hi everyone!!
I come here to get information about the One S I'm planning to buy one very soon from Virgin Canada.
I'm pretty new to Android (and in general to smartphones) since I owned a Blackberry for 2 years and I switch to Android (Samsung Galaxy Ace II X) ~2 months ago. This is a great phone but sometimes too slow (single CPU). So I'm planning to buy a more powerful cellphone and I thought to the HTC One S. My wife has the One V, I like it even it's not powerful enough for my use.
So here are my questions:
- is there different submodels of the One S? (VilleC ?)
- is Android 4.0.3 the current version of the One S?
- will it get 4.1?
- is it easy to root?
- something I like with my Samsung is the number of "pages" (?) available for icons and widgets (7) and the fact they are cyclic (i.e. can go directly from 7 to 1). My wife One V has only 4 (5?) "pages" and it's not cyclic. What about the One S?
And most important: what are the cons of this phone? For instance on the Galaxy Ace II X, the way the external SD card is mount is a problem, or the fact that some people complain about cuts out while listening music, etc. Is there anything I should know about the One S?
Thank you for your replies.
for instance I just saw some One S have been sold with S3 CPU instead of S4 CPU, is Canada concerned by these models?
mehcoib said:
for instance I just saw some One S have been sold with S3 CPU instead of S4 CPU, is Canada concerned by these models?
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No, the s3 model is for the Asian market and is not sold in Canada.
The paging on the home screen is the same as the one v (non cyclic).
The two models are the Asian marketed s3 (1.7ghz dual core) and the international s4 (1.5ghz) and lastly the same as the s4 but only available in Taiwan is an S4 with 64gb of memory.
It is easy to root and there are guides on the one a development forums to help you do that.
Some Canadian carriers have released a jellybean update for the one s while some others have not so you might me on ICS for a bit.
Hope I helped somewhat. Please hit thanks if I did. Have fun if you get a one s
Sent from my One S using xda premium
eddiemurphy said:
No, the s3 model is for the Asian market and is not sold in Canada.
The paging on the home screen is the same as the one v (non cyclic).
The two models are the Asian marketed s3 (1.7ghz dual core) and the international s4 (1.5ghz) and lastly the same as the s4 but only available in Taiwan is an S4 with 64gb of memory.
It is easy to root and there are guides on the one a development forums to help you do that.
Some Canadian carriers have released a jellybean update for the one s while some others have not so you might me on ICS for a bit.
Hope I helped somewhat. Please hit thanks if I did. Have fun if you get a one s
Sent from my One S using xda premium
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thank you, you answered lots of my questions! I see you have a One S as well, any cons you may think of?
Also, is there any app that could change the paging? Is it what we call a "launcher", like Nova Launcher?
Are you getting it cheap? I would say avoid if you have to sign up to a contract/plan - for sure buy if cheap or 2nd hand!
good points for me are:
Just right screen size - not too big not too small
I can load any ROM from latest JellyBean ( 4.2.2 ) to any of the Sense ones ( search for Viper ROM ) or even use Stock. There is heaps of active development on this model.
As above full unlock and S-OFF (all security off )
standard micro USB connector - friends/colleagues have latest iphones (lightening connector) or Androids
reasonable battery life - will easily last me a full day
Fast data performance (HSDPA+ ) - I get up to 10Mbps which around here is exceptional
looks cool
bad points for me are:
No sdcard and limited internal memory - you get about 9Gb usable
Too thin - until I got a case I kept dropping it when using it one handed
speaking of cases - there isn't a great variety ( phone is abit yesterday news for good looking cases )
n/a points for me:
I don't use the camera or video - but they are very good
The LED flash isn't great but will do the job
Best thing about Android - you change anything. Don't like the pager/launder: Change it. Indeed I use Nova.
Keep in mind OP that the Jelly Bean update removes scrollable wallpaper in exchange for a repeated cycle of pages on the launcher. e.g page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 7, 1, 2 etc.
eddiemurphy said:
The two models are the Asian marketed s3 (1.7ghz dual core) and the international s4 (1.5ghz) and lastly the same as the s4 but only available in Taiwan is an S4 with 64gb of memory.
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They still also sell the S3 in Taiwan, but alongside the S4 (as a different phone altogether) with 64GB internal storage which they call the One S SE (One S Special Edition). The S3 (Snapdragon S3, also called z560e or VilleC2) as far as I know is still marketed as the One S.
AW: Wondering if I should buy One S. Any useful information is welcomed!
I have my s3 from Vodafone Germany
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bluebenno said:
Are you getting it cheap? I would say avoid if you have to sign up to a contract/plan - for sure buy if cheap or 2nd hand!
good points for me are:
Just right screen size - not too big not too small
I can load any ROM from latest JellyBean ( 4.2.2 ) to any of the Sense ones ( search for Viper ROM ) or even use Stock. There is heaps of active development on this model.
As above full unlock and S-OFF (all security off )
standard micro USB connector - friends/colleagues have latest iphones (lightening connector) or Androids
reasonable battery life - will easily last me a full day
Fast data performance (HSDPA+ ) - I get up to 10Mbps which around here is exceptional
looks cool
bad points for me are:
No sdcard and limited internal memory - you get about 9Gb usable
Too thin - until I got a case I kept dropping it when using it one handed
speaking of cases - there isn't a great variety ( phone is abit yesterday news for good looking cases )
n/a points for me:
I don't use the camera or video - but they are very good
The LED flash isn't great but will do the job
Best thing about Android - you change anything. Don't like the pager/launder: Change it. Indeed I use Nova.
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thanks! actually I think I can get it brand new for $150 I was also looking at Nexus 4 ($360) and Galaxy SII X ($300) but I won't really play games or look at videos with this phone I just need something to quickly switch between emails/SMS/calls/internet browser (business use, always in a rush...), which my Galaxy Ace II X doesn't do very well. That's why I want a dual-core CPU phone with a 4"-4.5" screen and Android 4+. External SD card would have been great though.
This phone is by far the greatest phone I've ever had. Here are my pros/cons:
Pros:
- Perfect screen size. Not to big, not to small.
- Its FAST for its price. I got this phone back when it was about $500, and i don't regret it.
- Amazing camera.
- Easy to root
- Great for gaming, movies etc.
- I hear negative things about the screen, but j love the colours it puts out. They're very vibrant.
Cons:
- Battery life. I can get about 3 hours screen time with the P.A.C man ROM.
- Sense 4+. I really don't like what HTC did with jellybean (Sense 4+, Jellybean 4.1). I feel like they removed features, and found it yo be a little slow.
- Non removable battery. I feel like its a good thing to have.
- Non removable storage. You're stuck with whatever's inside. (I've still haven't managed to max it out).
If you can get the One S for $150 like you said, get it. Its worth it. Don't spend thr extra $150 for the nexus. If you root the One S and flash a stock 4.2.2 android ROM, you'll be getting the exact same experience.
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I just got a One S slightly used for $180 from craigslist/kijiji.ca. Pretty good price considering what you get which is dual core 1.5G and lots of RAM/ROM. It is an S4 as are all Canadian versions.
It's quite a bit faster than my other phone which was only single core 1Ghz.
I had a bit of trouble following some of the rooting and s-off procedures but I eventually got it figured out. It's not point and click unlocking s-off ing yet like some of the other phones that have been around longer but it will probably get there eventually.
justin0025 said:
This phone is by far the greatest phone I've ever had. Here are my pros/cons:
Pros:
- Perfect screen size. Not to big, not to small.
- Its FAST for its price. I got this phone back when it was about $500, and i don't regret it.
- Amazing camera.
- Easy to root
- Great for gaming, movies etc.
- I hear negative things about the screen, but j love the colours it puts out. They're very vibrant.
Cons:
- Battery life. I can get about 3 hours screen time with the P.A.C man ROM.
- Sense 4+. I really don't like what HTC did with jellybean (Sense 4+, Jellybean 4.1). I feel like they removed features, and found it yo be a little slow.
- Non removable battery. I feel like its a good thing to have.
- Non removable storage. You're stuck with whatever's inside. (I've still haven't managed to max it out).
If you can get the One S for $150 like you said, get it. Its worth it. Don't spend thr extra $150 for the nexus. If you root the One S and flash a stock 4.2.2 android ROM, you'll be getting the exact same experience.
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thank you. I agree with you, removable battery and storage are great features but for that price and this power I think I'll be happy with a One S, and I'll probably root it. Just for fun
I should have it by Thursday. Several cellphone sellers told me to go with the Nexus 4 but I guess they just wanted me to spend more. For my use, a dual-core CPU will be just fine.
My biggest loss of getting his phone is the lack of an SD card reader, never thought it was a big deal till I had to go without and it quickly became an issue.
RiffyDivine said:
My biggest loss of getting his phone is the lack of an SD card reader, never thought it was a big deal till I had to go without and it quickly became an issue.
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I agree. For me it's not really a problem since I don't plan to store music/pictures/videos on this phone, but that's definitely a bad point for this cell. And for Nexus 4 as well since it has no external storage neither!!
The Nexus 4 exists in 2 models, 8GB and 16 GB, so maybe the lack of external storage can make people buying the 16GB model, but the HTC One S doesn't come with different storage sizes, and that's a pity.
It's a great phone, and now that Bell/Virgin has released the 4.1.1 update it has been brought into early-2013 standards (only the Nexus line has 4.2.x as of today).
Some people don't like the changes that JB brought but overall the phone for me has improved.
If you buy a case consider this one: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B007ZTA522/
I really suggest getting a ballistic SG case as the phone is really thin and delicate. Plus the case is super sexy, feels great in your hand,is grippy and is as strong and durable as an otter box case if not more.
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ChrisAG said:
It's a great phone, and now that Bell/Virgin has released the 4.1.1 update it has been brought into early-2013 standards (only the Nexus line has 4.2.x as of today).
Some people don't like the changes that JB brought but overall the phone for me has improved.
If you buy a case consider this one: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B007ZTA522/
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thanks for the link, it looks great, + free shipping!
wow... just got my One S :laugh::laugh:
Here the deal : brand new (S4) for $145 + $100 in store credit. Does it worth the price?
More than 2x faster than my Ace II X according to Quadrant and Velamo. Looks great! I will probbaly root it this weekend if I have time, can you guys give a link for easy and safe rooting?
mehcoib said:
wow... just got my One S :laugh::laugh:
Here the deal : brand new (S4) for $145 + $100 in store credit. Does it worth the price?
More than 2x faster than my Ace II X according to Quadrant and Velamo. Looks great! I will probbaly root it this weekend if I have time, can you guys give a link for easy and safe rooting?
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Here is a link if you can do it manually but if you want it really easy and you are new to rooting, I suggest that you use the all in one kit. But you know you can do it and you are comfortable, use the tutorial,more fun.
Link for root tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Link for all in one kit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604677
Please hit tnx if I helped have fun rooting.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
eddiemurphy said:
Here is a link if you can do it manually but if you want it really easy and you are new to rooting, I suggest that you use the all in one kit. But you know you can do it and you are comfortable, use the tutorial,more fun.
Link for root tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Link for all in one kit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604677
Please hit tnx if I helped have fun rooting.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
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sure I hit Thanks!
what's the advantage of doing it manually vs all-in-one kit?
I've never been a big fan of benchmarks, but Quadrant results are amazing!
- Ace II X : ~2300
- One S 4.0.3 : ~5000
- One S 4.1.1 : ~6200

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