Hi!
I'm wanting to unlock the bootloader on my new TF700, but I read this in the bootloader unlocker disclaimer:
...can no longer receive ASUS software updates...
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Does this mean that I can't use ANY official ASUS updates, even if I want to run the update manually? Or does this just refer to OTA updates? I really want to put Jellybean on here when they release it, so I probably won't unlock the bootloader if I can't update to it manually.
Also, does unlocking the bootloader also run a factory reset and wipe the device?
nothsa said:
Hi!
I'm wanting to unlock the bootloader on my new TF700, but I read this in the bootloader unlocker disclaimer:
Does this mean that I can't use ANY official ASUS updates, even if I want to run the update manually? Or does this just refer to OTA updates? I really want to put Jellybean on here when they release it, so I probably won't unlock the bootloader if I can't update to it manually.
Also, does unlocking the bootloader also run a factory reset and wipe the device?
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You'll be flashing ROMs, not getting ASUS's updates. A rom for the latest firmware usually takes less than a week to get on the dev section of the forum.
nothsa said:
Hi!
I'm wanting to unlock the bootloader on my new TF700, but I read this in the bootloader unlocker disclaimer:
Does this mean that I can't use ANY official ASUS updates, even if I want to run the update manually? Or does this just refer to OTA updates? I really want to put Jellybean on here when they release it, so I probably won't unlock the bootloader if I can't update to it manually.
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Only refers to OTA, as far as we currently know -- the bootloader unlock hasn't been available long enough to prove otherwise.
Also, does unlocking the bootloader also run a factory reset and wipe the device?
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Nope, it only reboots. It will leave your user data intact when performed correctly. Obviously, when the crap goes into the ventilator, global nuclear war might ensue or your cat may just die (if you don't have one, you will receive one from a local asylum a few days before, that's enough emotional attachment to make it hurt).
<Oh, sometimes I'm vile. Sorry! >
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Hi XDA-Devvers,
In a topic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510719) I read about the following:
Nonverbose said:
Root won't stop an ota but an unlocked bootloader will. You can check in your boot screen if its still unlocked or if its relocked.
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Doesn't that mean that we can root our tablet, lock the bootloader again (fastboot oem lock), install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper and once there's an OTA available, just backup the root with the Voodoo app and install it?
How awesome would that be :laugh:
Since I am not a pro in that kind of stuff: Can anyone confirm this theory might actually work for real?
fastboot oem lock is unavailable once you unlocked the bootloader.
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
TomONeill said:
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
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No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
alx5962 said:
No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
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Okay, thank you for replying. This makes the decision to root a little harder since I want to keep getting updates and for that you'll need ClockWork (and the people who are pushing the update to XDA)(Clockwork does have the nandroid backup though, which I want to have when rooting), which doesn't run very stable last time I read (I rooted before, but then I sent my tab back (heat problems) and got a new one. I flashed a beta ROM xd).
I thanked your post
Isn't it enough to have the original Kernel and ROM? Do you really need a locked bootloader to get OTA updates?
Has anyone tested the universal root method? See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
As this doesn't effect the Kernel, OTA updates might work if rooting works with this method.
I've not tried it. I've read some people are bricking their tablets with the universal, and since the A700 is basically a brick waiting to happen, I think I'll pass on it for a while.
Hey everyone. I have a TF700t (obvious by posting in this thread). It is unlocked, but not rooted. I go to try to get the Firmware upgrade and it says I am already on the current version. Is there something missing (this is my first OTA upgrade, btw)
thanks in advance!
bmw4l1f3 said:
Hey everyone. I have a TF700t (obvious by posting in this thread). It is unlocked, but not rooted. I go to try to get the Firmware upgrade and it says I am already on the current version. Is there something missing (this is my first OTA upgrade, btw)
thanks in advance!
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Look at the build number, what version software you're running right now?
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Look at the build number, what version software you're running right now?
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Build number is 9.4.5.26-20120720
bmw4l1f3 said:
Hey everyone. I have a TF700t (obvious by posting in this thread). It is unlocked, but not rooted. I go to try to get the Firmware upgrade and it says I am already on the current version.
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Unlocked devices do not get OTA updates. You must install the complete firmware downloaded from Asus, or obtain the "dlpkgfile" from other sources and kick off the upgrade process manually.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803090
Important note: If you plan to install custom ROMs (obviously, because you are unlocked) and want to make your device brickproof, then BEFORE upgrading anything, you should create the files that allow you to use nvflash to recover from any softbrick. This is your last chance - as soon as you upgrade your bootloader, you will not be able to create these files anymore. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
_that said:
Unlocked devices do not get OTA updates. You must install the complete firmware downloaded from Asus, or obtain the "dlpkgfile" from other sources and kick off the upgrade process manually.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803090
Important note: If you plan to install custom ROMs (obviously, because you are unlocked) and want to make your device brickproof, then BEFORE upgrading anything, you should create the files that allow you to use nvflash to recover from any softbrick. This is your last chance - as soon as you upgrade your bootloader, you will not be able to create these files anymore. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
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Honestly I could care less about rooting. Is there a way to re-lock it to get the OTA?
bmw4l1f3 said:
Honestly I could care less about rooting. Is there a way to re-lock it to get the OTA?
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First, you are a lucky guy. You still have the .26 version, I suggest you to visit this thread to perform a NVflash bootloader backup before doing anything further(this will help you if you brick your device). If you upgrade you will NEVER able to do this bootloader backup again. Once done with that. Just download the firmware from Asus site, unzip it and you should have another zip file, copy this zip file to the root of your external micro SD card, and you should see the notification to upgrade (in some cases, you may have to reboot to see the message). There is NO WAY to relock your bootloader at this time.
I recently got a tf300t which came already with 10.4.2.17 JB firmware.
At the moment I'm not plannig to install custom ROMs basically because I understand that I should unlock the bootloader and lose the warranty doing so.
The device is notifying that an update (the .18 firmware, I guess) is available, but before upgrading I want to be sure that in the future I will able to unlock the bootloader and then install custom ROMs.
Can someone please reassure me about it?
I'm sorry if this sounds as a dumb question, but I'm pretty new to this tablet and in the past I lost the ability to gain root access for another device beacuse of an OTA update.
Malobestino said:
I recently got a tf300t which came already with 10.4.2.17 JB firmware.
At the moment I'm not plannig to install custom ROMs basically because I understand that I should unlock the bootloader and lose the warranty doing so.
The device is notifying that an update (the .18 firmware, I guess) is available, but before upgrading I want to be sure that in the future I will able to unlock the bootloader and then install custom ROMs.
Can someone please reassure me about it?
I'm sorry if this sounds as a dumb question, but I'm pretty new to this tablet and in the past I lost the ability to gain root access for another device beacuse of an OTA update.
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If you're already on 10.4.2.17, upgrading to 10.4.2.18 won't affect your ability to unlock. Some people (like myself) are unable to unlock for unknown reasons, but upgrading from .17 to .18 shouldn't make a difference(10.4.2.18 doesn't really change much). If you're able to unlock, you should be able to do it on either .17 or .18. If you're unable to unlock, you then wouldn't have been able to do it on either version.
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If you're already on 10.4.2.17, upgrading to 10.4.2.18 won't affect your ability to unlock. Some people (like myself) are unable to unlock for unknown reasons, but upgrading from .17 to .18 shouldn't make a difference(10.4.2.18 doesn't really change much). If you're able to unlock, you should be able to do it on either .17 or .18. If you're unable to unlock, you then wouldn't have been able to do it on either version.
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Thank you for your answer.
This inability to unlock somewhat scares me.
Is this connected in someway to the production date of the device (which maybe could retrieved from the serial number)?
Malobestino said:
Thank you for your answer.
This inability to unlock somewhat scares me.
Is this connected in someway to the production date of the device (which maybe could retrieved from the serial number)?
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I'm not sure, I know I and several others have been unable to unlock. There are various theories as to why (ASUS unlock server problems, serial number not in their database, certain serial numbers don't work, etc...). Worst case scenario is that when you try to unlock, it gives you the error "Unknown error occurs, which may be a network connection issue. please wait and try again later" and nothing happens. Personally, I'm pretty sure my problem has to do with the fact that the serial number in settings is different from the one on the bottom of the tablet (the one on the sticker). Unfortunately for me, there is no way to change the internal serial number without being rooted, and no way to root on JB (for now) without being unlocked.
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If you're already on 10.4.2.17, upgrading to 10.4.2.18 won't affect your ability to unlock. Some people (like myself) are unable to unlock for unknown reasons, but upgrading from .17 to .18 shouldn't make a difference(10.4.2.18 doesn't really change much). If you're able to unlock, you should be able to do it on either .17 or .18. If you're unable to unlock, you then wouldn't have been able to do it on either version.
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you say you are unable to unlock can you tell me why? I was on ics and upgraded and now on .17 and wanted to unlock everywhere I look I find a file .13 but nothing for .17 or 18
danyal241 said:
you say you are unable to unlock can you tell me why? I was on ics and upgraded and now on .17 and wanted to unlock everywhere I look I find a file .13 but nothing for .17 or 18
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Go to:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_TF300T/#download
Under choose OS , select android, go to utilities, the second file should say "Unlock Device App: Unlock boot loader." download the file, copy it to the tablet and open it in file manager. If you have install from other sources enabled it should bring up an install dialog and install an app called unlock tool. Open this app, scroll and click through all of the terms of agreement, and click unlock, If its going to work, this is where the unlock will happen.
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Go to:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_TF300T/#download
Under choose OS , select android, go to utilities, the second file should say "Unlock Device App: Unlock boot loader." download the file, copy it to the tablet and open it in file manager. If you have install from other sources enabled it should bring up an install dialog and install an app called unlock tool. Open this app, scroll and click through all of the terms of agreement, and click unlock, If its going to work, this is where the unlock will happen.
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Thanks could you also point me to which file I need to flash and how to obtain root?
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Hello just a few minutes ago I manually searched for updates from the system setting (have auto update off) and realized I had an update so I took it. I've taken updates OTA before with no issues however this time it basically completely factory data reset my phone and also what's more bizarre is it removed my bootloader unlock that I had gotten way back when the phone was first released. I have never installed custom firmware or even rooted the device but I did get my bootloader unlocked using a paid service that I found about here. I have a snapdragon model note 20 ultra 5g. I am so confused why this time around the OTA affected these things. I have included a screenshot of the OTA I took. Can anyone tell me what happened to my bootloader unlock I've had for like 6 months ?
Do you have a U or a UI device? If so I think Samsung changed the bootloader from version 1 to version 2 and that might be why you lost it. Checkout the last 2 pages of this thread here where you might be able to get more clarification.
Whenever you lock or unlock your bootloader, you device will factory reset.
When you took the update, it updated the bootloader to version 2.
Since your unlock was not an official one, it relocked your bootloader in the process.
This is what caused the wipe.
Yup. You're not supposed to take ota updates with unofficial unlocked bootloader.
Not even sim unlock.
coilbio said:
Yup. You're not supposed to take ota updates with unofficial unlocked bootloader.
Not even sim unlock.
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Is there such a thing as an official bootloader unlock?
shpotik said:
Is there such a thing as an official bootloader unlock?
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Nope. Not for US versions.
Why did you unlock the bootloader if you haven't ever rooted or flashed custom?
*Detection* said:
Why did you unlock the bootloader if you haven't ever rooted or flashed custom?
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It sounded like a good idea at the time.
Hi, a little question. If I closed the bootloader and returned to the stock ROM with no root, will I receive OTA updates again? Also another question, I want to modify some files before I flash the rom like I want to remove samsung emoji and put ios emoji in their place, is it possible?
kingozilla said:
Hi, a little question. If I closed the bootloader and returned to the stock ROM with no root, will I receive OTA updates again?
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I've heard people say that you do get OTA if you flash stock and re-lock your bootloader but never tested it myself.
kingozilla said:
Also another question, I want to modify some files before I flash the rom like I want to remove samsung emoji and put ios emoji in their place, is it possible?
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No, any modification will be detected as custom and won't be able to be flashed with a locked bootloader.
You can receive OTA and update normally after locked bootloader
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I've heard people say that you do get OTA if you flash stock and re-lock your bootloader but never tested it myself.
No, any modification will be detected as custom and won't be able to be flashed with a locked bootloader.
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Ok thank you, I downloaded the stock rom and wont return to root in near future, because I strongly want the stability over apps - bank apps and phone, and I want encryption, and not anymore have more time for this. But how can I close the bootloader to receive OTA updates? Does installing it just normally through odin close it?
kingozilla said:
Ok thank you, I downloaded the stock rom and wont return to root in near future, because I strongly want the stability over apps - bank apps and phone, and I want encryption, and not anymore have more time for this. But how can I close the bootloader to receive OTA updates? Does installing it just normally through odin close it?
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Make sure you are at stock. Boot into unlock mode again, do it the same like unlock, it will lock your bootloader. When stock boot up, enable Developer option, turn off allow OEM unlocking, reboot. Now you are able to receive OTA normally.