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Hey guys, i have an inspire, i was wondering if i activitated an old att basic messaging phone unlimited data plan, would it work with my inspire? And would it provide mr with the same speeds?
Thanks!
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Are you a new customer? Or are you conming from a previous smartphone like an iPhone?
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I have the same question.
I just bought an Inspire for a dumphone line that didn't have the $10 unltd data. So I guess there's no way around this line since I already bought it? I bought it at full retail no commitment. We still have the original device.
But we also have 2 other dumbphone's in the family plan that are ready for smartphones. They don't have $10 unltd data. If I got the $10 unltd on each now and in about a month(when we are ready to buy smartphones) can we get untld data on the 2 new smartphones?
you can try, but it wont work because as soon as the IMEI of the inspire registers with the network, the auto sweep tool bumps your line to the proper smartphone data plan.
but i would definitely give it a shot. however note that you dont want to lsoe your grandfathered unlimited data plan if that is what you have, and once you get bumped it might be impossible to get it back.
the best choice, which is how people avoid this, is to only use non-ATT phones that they dont know or consider smartphones. but the inspire will get detected guaranteed immediately.
RogerPodacter said:
you can try, but it wont work because as soon as the IMEI of the inspire registers with the network, the auto sweep tool bumps your line to the proper smartphone data plan.
but i would definitely give it a shot. however note that you dont want to lsoe your grandfathered unlimited data plan if that is what you have, and once you get bumped it might be impossible to get it back.
the best choice, which is how people avoid this, is to only use non-ATT phones that they dont know or consider smartphones. but the inspire will get detected guaranteed immediately.
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This is my situation;
1 iPhone unltd data(grandfathered)
2 dumbphones with no data(messaging phones)
1 recently bought Inspire with 2gb data plan
My question is about the 2 messaging dumbphones. They currently have no data. The 2 want smartphones in about a month. If I get the $10 unltd data now on the 2 messaging dumbphones can I buy 2 unbranded smartphones and be able to get unltd 3G data? Do I need to get a $10 plan for each messaging phone prior to buying an unbranded phone?
I'm not going to mess with the iPhone 4 with grandfathered unltd data.
I have a Captivate with IP3G unltd. data and 2 regular lines on a family plan. I can't upgrade Captivate but use upgrade on 2 other lines. Can I order Inspire as an upgrade for a regular line and use it with my IP3G SIM from Captivate?
My experience with this:
I had a theory about iPhone 2G data plan trick and did my own spin on it. With my Inspire 4G activated and powered on, I put an old SIM card into an iPhone 2G and activated the iphone through iTunes. It let me switch to the iPhone 2G unlimited plan + 200 txt for $20, but the actual voice/data did not switch over to the iPhone because the SIM card is old/unprovisioned.
I don't know exactly why, but I've been on the unlimited 2g + 200 txt (no MMS of course) plan for three weeks now with no data plan bump. The AT&T account website recognizes the Inspire IMEI (displays the Inspire on my account). However, it will not let me remove the 2G plan and upgrade to the smartphone personal unlimited.
ATT has been really sketchy about this... all you have to do is call customer support or go into the store and say that your unlimited was removed without authorization.
I got mine back on. You will need it.
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JWGWulff said:
ATT has been really sketchy about this... all you have to do is call customer support or go into the store and say that your unlimited was removed without authorization.
I got mine back on. You will need it.
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I never had unltd data on the messaging phones. I know which unbranded phones I'm going to purchase in about a month.
What should I do to take adsvsndage of unltd data on the new unbranded smart phones I'm asking. Get the messaging phones on unltd data now or it doesn't matter?
If I use a sidekick on ATT, will I be forced to get the att smart phone data plan? I really dont want it. I just want to use it for wifi. Hopefully one of you guys can help me. :x
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I'm gessing ull use aq gophone plan? No u won't have to, but the data that comes on the 50$ plan is unusable for our phone.
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No, Im on a family plan, unlimited talk and text, but im asking if data will be forced onto my line.
I used to work at ATT. Yes you will have to pay the price for data. Sorry
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No you won't be forced into it, just keep your mobile data connection off... One of the big problems though is you wont be able to send or receive MMS messages. If you can find ATT's APN settings for just MMS go ahead and set up your phone with just that APN and not for Data as well... I'm not sure if ATT charges extra for MMS messages or if you even want it, but they cant force you into buying data if you don't want it.
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No you won't be forced into it, just keep your mobile data connection off... One of the big problems though is you wont be able to send or receive MMS messages. If you can find ATT's APN settings for just MMS go ahead and set up your phone with just that APN and not for Data as well... I'm not sure if ATT charges extra for MMS messages or if you even want it, but they cant force you into buying data if you don't want it.
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Yes they can. Trust me. If you don't want to believe me thats fine. But trust me, they will.
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I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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insanedrunk said:
I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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Yeah, I believe they can only force you into getting a data plan when signing up for a new contract with them.
In order to get the contract discounts on phones you need to sign up for a certain premium data plan or something stupid.
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I buy my phones second hand for that reason, ebays your pal. The op sounds as he already has att. So if he unlocks his sk 4g there wouldn't be a need, just take out the sim card and exchange. I have been changing phones as they come out, no problems... I pay 100$ flat for 5 phones on a family plan. Most importantly, no DATA PLAN...
My sister has used all my android phones that I leave behind on her att plan, never had any problems being forced into a data plan . You only truely needed an internet plan to sign up or sign into google servers, once you're past that, your all gravy, and can survive on wifi. The only phones I've had that didn't allow you to skip the sign in/setup wizard were the g1 and the mytouch 3g. But then root came : ( 0)
I know that Tmo doesnt force data plan, but Att does. Im just really unsure of what phone to get, cause Ive been hearing different things lol.
I've heard att cant detect a g2x, cause its exclusively a tmo phone, and a sidekick is also, so I was gonna get that instead. But now im hearing that they can force you it with a sidekick. I am so lost. Lol
I know that you can use this on ATT without being forced into a data plan. That's precicely what I'm doing right now. Here's what I'm trying to find out though. ATT doesn't know what phone I've got. Their site lists my old non-smartphone. If I choose to add the cheaper unlimited dataplan for non-smartphones (which is the only option available for me to choose online) then will my phone work like that? Or will they then be able to recognize my phone as a smart phone and switch me over to the smartphone data plan?
i know that some carriers will lock down your wifi so you cant use it without a data plan. i dont know if att does or not. the only way around that i know of is to remove the sim card. take out the sim card, and you can use wifi. but who wants to take their sim card out just to use wifi? the only time they can make you get a data plan is for discounts on new phones or when entering a new contract.
my experience with att sucked on this phone, i went with the 25$ go phone plan with 25$ of data (turns out data on the gophone doesnt work with 4g phones from other carriers boo) also if i had 1 bar it would drop said bar if i tried to send a text or make a phone call. the sad fact is here in montana (no local tmobile) i get better service through tmobile monthly then att monthly (who has local coverage)
U don't need a smartphone plan u can get the media net $10 data plan or block the data and only use wifi
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At&t will force a data plan if you have a 3g or higher phone.
The sidekick cannot run on at&t 3 or 4g, so it will not detect it, it will view it as a non-smartphone.
And to those saying at&t can't force a data plan at all, get a regular phone from ebay that's meant for at&t, pop your sim in, you will get a nice little text message saying you will not be charged $15 a month for data.
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At&t will force a data plan if you have a 3g or higher phone.
The sidekick cannot run on at&t 3 or 4g, so it will not detect it, it will view it as a non-smartphone.
And to those saying at&t can't force a data plan at all, get a regular phone from ebay that's meant for at&t, pop your sim in, you will get a nice little text message saying you will not be charged $15 a month for data.
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yeah and on monthly you cant even access 2g which is BS
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I buy my phones second hand for that reason, ebays your pal. The op sounds as he already has att. So if he unlocks his sk 4g there wouldn't be a need, just take out the sim card and exchange. I have been changing phones as they come out, no problems... I pay 100$ flat for 5 phones on a family plan. Most importantly, no DATA PLAN...
My sister has used all my android phones that I leave behind on her att plan, never had any problems being forced into a data plan . You only truely needed an internet plan to sign up or sign into google servers, once you're past that, your all gravy, and can survive on wifi. The only phones I've had that didn't allow you to skip the sign in/setup wizard were the g1 and the mytouch 3g. But then root came : ( 0)
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Do first boot without the sim card. The phone will turn on wifi so you can connect to Google. I do this all the time when flashing just because the first sync is faster that way.
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I juat want to know this
My gf its on att, and she wants a android phone. But she has a normal plan. If i buy her a new android phone. Will att charge her for a smarphone plan? Or will she be able to keep her normal voice and data plan. I know in tmobile you can keep eany plan you have if you buy the phone. Eany help?
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what do you mean by normal plan? i think this is how it works
1. you get her a at&t branded smartphone (one they sell), they will detect it and require you to have a smartphone data plan. starting at $15
2. you get her a non-at&t branded smartphone, they dont know what it is, so if you have no plan or have medianet plan ($10 or 15 i forget, dumbphone data plan), she keeps her current plan
i read many times that people use a unbranded smartphone with the medianet plan. me, i cant afford data so ive been using unbranded smartphones without data plan for 3 years
It really depends on what data plan she is on right now. If it's a basic phone data plan, they will make her switch to a smartphone data plan. Those are $15 for 200MB, $25 for 2GB, and $45 for 4GB. If she has an unlimited data plan, she might be able to have it grandfathered in. Those are the only changes you should see.
Im sorry she only has voice and text. But that answered my question. If she gets an att phone they will make her get data. And she cant pay it. I gues ill get her a tmo phone.
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No. You need to get an UNBRANDED international phone to be completely safe.
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im a noob in this men
What do you mean with unbranded?
ahhh i got my answer reading in the forums
Aparently i can use eany other carier phone and it will not be detected cause the data radios and frequency arent the same. they told me i should not have eany problems with them changing my plan. thanks for all your help guys
Buy from Amazon, BestBuy, etc. I mean, don't buy with the carrier.
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While I dont have high hopes I thought I would ask anyways based on some of the stuff I have read.
The situation:
My line is due for an upgrade today in which I obviously want to get the S3. Currently I have the unlimited plan. My sister who is on the family plan also has the unlimited plan.
The plan:
What I would like to do is use her line to 'borrow' the upgrade from me and get the s3 after which I would transfer the phone back to my line. Because it was not my line upgrading would I still lose my unlimited? Would she?
Another question is that we also have a phone with the 150mb data plan. Could I use this line to 'borrow' the upgrade as that line would be at no risk of losing the unlimited data plan? Does verizon still offer the 150mb plan or would that line then be forced to a $30 plan?
Borrowing your sisters upgrade would make her lose her unlimited data unless you bought the phone at full price. Using your 150mb data phone they'd most likely put you into the 2gb plan on that phone but using it would allow you to get the S3 and keep your unlimited data plan.
You can always just buy the phone full price and not use an upgrade and then you would be able to keep unlimited data.
Yup knew about that. Was just trying to find a way to get the subsidized while keeping it. I will probably just end up going down to the 2gb as I connect to wireless at home and work anyways
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This is how I pulled off keeping my unlimited data. My grandmother still had an analog phone (flip phone with no data). I made them use her upgrade to a smart phone and receive 2GB data on her own (without that shared data plan). I then switched phones and put her back on her old phone and it canceled her data package in term means she didnt have to pay for any plan and I have my S3 with unlimited data.
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This is how I pulled off keeping my unlimited data. My grandmother still had an analog phone (flip phone with no data). I made them use her upgrade to a smart phone and receive 2GB data on her own (without that shared data plan). I then switched phones and put her back on her old phone and it canceled her data package in term means she didnt have to pay for any plan and I have my S3 with unlimited data.
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Would this work since I'm the only one with the upgrade? For instance upgrade my moms phone (small data plan) with mine then transfer lines back
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I just did this and I lost my unlimited data. Was told customer provided equipment you can keep the plan, anything bought from Verizon (upgrade or not) will require a plan change now.
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I just did this and I lost my unlimited data. Was told customer provided equipment you can keep the plan, anything bought from Verizon (upgrade or not) will require a plan change now.
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This should not have happened. Once a phone is activated on another line you can transfer it to an unlimited plan. If you transferred someone else's upgrade to your line and upgraded yourself then you can't keep unlimited.
I wish I had read this thread first, sad thing is not only did I loose my data they switched me to a share everything plan for an extra $40/mo
Good news is my wife can talk all day long instead of waiting until 7
I just bought mine rhrougu telesales I got them to give me a 90 dollar credit on my plan and I bought the phone out right and I repeated over and over this won't change my plan right and it didn't
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Sccrluk9 said:
Would this work since I'm the only one with the upgrade? For instance upgrade my moms phone (small data plan) with mine then transfer lines back
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In theory it should. The only issue you may run into is if you both are on the same account, Verizon may try to bump you and your mom both on a single data plan instead of activating her on a small data plan.
My local Verizon Wireless guy pulled some sort trick on their system. He originally told me that I was going to have to upgrade and lose my unlimited or buy the phone for full price. While I was deciding what to do, he was working on his computer and then after I decided I'd settle for the upgrade and loss of my grandfather plan, he scanned my phone in and told me that I still had my unlimited. He somehow made it look like my mother upgraded her phone to a GS3, while I bought the phone she had or something, or he transferred the unlimited plan to her number temporarily. Either way, all I know, is that there is a way for them to play with the accounts and let you upgrade and keep your unlimited plan; you just have to have a nice competent dealer who wants to help.
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This is how I pulled off keeping my unlimited data. My grandmother still had an analog phone (flip phone with no data). I made them use her upgrade to a smart phone and receive 2GB data on her own (without that shared data plan). I then switched phones and put her back on her old phone and it canceled her data package in term means she didnt have to pay for any plan and I have my S3 with unlimited data.
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This is kind of what i did also. I had no upgrade, rep had me add a line, then transfer the number to an old flipper i had removing the data package. Then moved the s3 to my thunderbolt line. Kept unlimited data for the cost of $10 for the flipper.
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bill3508 said:
This is kind of what i did also. I had no upgrade, rep had me add a line, then transfer the number to an old flipper i had removing the data package. Then moved the s3 to my thunderbolt line. Kept unlimited data for the cost of $10 for the flipper.
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Theres a lot of work arounds I found out in Verizons system with data lol. The best part...is i still have my upgrade
I have an old GS3 and I was thinking of giving it to my mom, who does not need any Data plan. is there a way to use the phone without data plan? Can i just install her old non-data sim card? thanks.
mefistofel666 said:
I have an old GS3 and I was thinking of giving it to my mom, who does not need any Data plan. is there a way to use the phone without data plan? Can i just install her old non-data sim card? thanks.
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bump.
My experience is VZW makes all our smart phones have data plans regardless use it or not no exceptions so I suggest another non smart phone or the smallest data plan with any discount you can get.
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