Force audio through USB - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Is there any method to force audio to play through the USB?
I have a current working setup in my car where I have a 30 pin splitter to usb and 3.5 mm cable to both charge and listen to music (pandora, apollo, play music). This method works just fine. But I was hoping that I could use a USB OTG and then just force audio through the USB OTG to the 30 pin ipod connection. Therefore I would no longer need to also have the 3.5 mm connected. Below are all the connnections I have in the car both current (working) and future (what I hope will work/but does not as of yet).
Basically I need a method to force analog audio through the micro USB of the GS3. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Current Solution Working:
Male 30 Pin Dock connector > Female 30 Pin split to Female USB/Female 3.5mm > 3.5 mm male-male to audio input and usb to microUSB to charge
(photo 1 > photo 2 > photo 3)
Due to this setup, I know that the audio going into the usb and 30 pin is in analog and not digital. Since it involves connecting to the analog 3.5 mm.
Therefore I was hoping I could force some dock mode or analog audio out through USB.
Hopeful Future Solution:
Male 30 pin dock connector > Female 30 pin to Male USB > Female USB to Micro USB (USB OTG Cable)
(photo 4 > photo 5)
Again, if anyone knows a way to force the dock mode or force all the audio for all applications to go through the microUSB in analog, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Fish3191

fish3191 said:
Is there any method to force audio to play through the USB?
I have a current working setup in my car where I have a 30 pin splitter to usb and 3.5 mm cable to both charge and listen to music (pandora, apollo, play music). This method works just fine. But I was hoping that I could use a USB OTG and then just force audio through the USB OTG to the 30 pin ipod connection. Therefore I would no longer need to also have the 3.5 mm connected. Below are all the connnections I have in the car both current (working) and future (what I hope will work/but does not as of yet).
Basically I need a method to force analog audio through the micro USB of the GS3. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Current Solution Working:
Male 30 Pin Dock connector > Female 30 Pin split to Female USB/Female 3.5mm > 3.5 mm male-male to audio input and usb to microUSB to charge
(photo 1 > photo 2 > photo 3)
Due to this setup, I know that the audio going into the usb and 30 pin is in analog and not digital. Since it involves connecting to the analog 3.5 mm.
Therefore I was hoping I could force some dock mode or analog audio out through USB.
Hopeful Future Solution:
Male 30 pin dock connector > Female 30 pin to Male USB > Female USB to Micro USB (USB OTG Cable)
(photo 4 > photo 5)
Again, if anyone knows a way to force the dock mode or force all the audio for all applications to go through the microUSB in analog, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Fish3191
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You should be able to trigger Car Mode using Tasker. It is under Tasks -> Display -> Car Mode. I don't have a dock to see if it works though.

ADC_112358132134 said:
You should be able to trigger Car Mode using Tasker. It is under Tasks -> Display -> Car Mode. I don't have a dock to see if it works though.
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Ah, I wish it was that easy. I just tried it, but with car mode enabled the audio still plays through speaker. So it looks like that is a no go.
I just found this in the forums and going to see if this might work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980937
Let me know if there are any comments on these methods or any others.
Thanks
EDIT: Looks like it still needs to be connected to a dock, whether its a car dock or home dock. So still no method to force analog audio through the USB. If only there was a simple switch

There are several threads in accessories that show dock and cable building and using a certain resister value on two of the pins to trigger dock mode and audio out through the usb. Or buy the infuse dock for $18 and an extension cable (and take it apart for the circuit board as I explain in one of the threads) and you are good to go.
ADC_112358132134 said:
You should be able to trigger Car Mode using Tasker. It is under Tasks -> Display -> Car Mode. I don't have a dock to see if it works though.
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insight3fl said:
There are several threads in accessories that show dock and cable building and using a certain resister value on two of the pins to trigger dock mode and audio out through the usb. Or buy the infuse dock for $18 and an extension cable (and take it apart for the circuit board as I explain in one of the threads) and you are good to go.
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Looks like there is an HTCpedia cable that does this. Would this work (both charge and usb out) instead of having to make the cable myself?shop.htcpedia.com/htc-usb-cable-activates-car-dock-app.html?campaign_id=12

So if I got a car deck with usb input I wouldn't be able to just connect the phone via usb and play music through it while charging?

Using my Samsung Infuse 4G Car dock.....i can play sounds through my car using the 3.5mm cable plugged into the back of the dock w/ it using just the usb connector to the phone. So somehow there should be a way to as sound is transferred though the usb port, tho it is prob something on the circuit board of the car dock that converts it. It dose put my Gs3 into car mode. Call's do not go through the the cable tho but to get anything to play you must goto Settings > Dock > Auto Output Mode (Checked). Hope maybe that helps you.

I had the same problem. Here is the solution go into settings go to dock its near the bottom then make sure you have audio output mode checked so it says use external speakers. When I do that I am able to use my cats speakers through my car dock to play the sound.
Hating on Verizon for locking my bootloader

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No Need for car charger when you have a USB connection on your car stereo

I use the Navi on My diamond. But needed a new car charger. Alsmost bought one. But then I thought. It charges true USB and my Kenwood car stereo has a usb slot to read music from my 8 gig usb stick. Now i connected my diamond. My diamond asked me to optimize for active sync or storage drive. I set it to storage drive. My kenwood reads the music verry fast from my diamond (faster then from my U3 caplable 8 gig USB stick) but it also charges the battery fast.
So you people that have the USB connection on your car stereo. Try it first it saves you a copple of bugs.
Greetz.
Found out that when using TT7 Navi on it. The charging power true my USB on my car stereo is not enough. So i Bought a car charger at www.pdashop.nl under HTC DIAMOND ACCESOIRIES. Then again if you lower the screen's backlight it might still work ?
Going on vacation tomorrow. Testing TT7 on USB only with a swifft rom on it. This might do the trick cause i used the TT7 on the latest Dutch stock (battery draining) rom first. Let you guys know when I get back from vacation.
chetermaat said:
Now i connected my diamond. My diamond asked me to optimize for active sync or storage drive. I set it to storage drive. My kenwood reads the music verry fast from my diamond (faster then from my U3 caplable 8 gig USB stick) but it also charges the battery fast.
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Nice solution. But: with this method you cannot play music from the Diamond on your stereo and use navigation on the Diamond at the same time. When you connect as storage drive, your Diamond can no longer access the internal storage (where the navigation data is usually stored). And I don't think your stereo will find the files on the Diamond when you use it in Activesync mode.
On the other hand: when you use a car charger you don't even have the option to play the music through the car stereo.
You have a point there
Its indead impossible to use audio and navi @ the same time when connected true USB on my car stereo.
Have to use the slower Mp3 cd for the music. Or a USB splitter to connect USB stick and charge @ the same time.
thx mate, great info
wont have to buy car charger, using sony cd changer with usb.
Cheers

HTC Hero and Pioneer Car Units

I just got a Pioneer AVH-P4100DVD unit to replace my DEH-P700BT unit. The P700BT had no issues playing music off my Hero through the USB cable attached to the receiver (just have to mount USB). The P4100DVD however when connected just says "format read" and will stay there. Just trying to figure out if there is a work around to get the USB cable to work with the P4100DVD?? I miss being able to control the music on my phone from the receiver. That is why I am not using the AUX jack. I have also tried turning the USB debugging on and off on my Hero. I know the USB works. I plugged in a thumb drive and it read the music fine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

[Q] USB Speakers - Is it Possible

Hi guys I was wondering if it was possible to get the transformer to output music through the USB ports. I have a set of portable Creative speakers which have great sound and would love to use them with the transformer. They are powered and receive audio from USB
It is very possible, but you'd ave to add the device modules (drivers for the device) to the kernel yourself because it isn't native. I've been trying to get USB headphones working for a while.. :/
Thing O Doom said:
It is very possible, but you'd ave to add the device modules (drivers for the device) to the kernel yourself because it isn't native. I've been trying to get USB headphones working for a while.. :/
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Got work usb audio on tf101 with CM10. Just kernel modules for usb audio are not enough to get sound from apps to be routed through the DAC. It's also needed to patch vertana audio driver.
I know it's been a long time but I just got around to rooting my TF101 and actually enjoying it. Has anyone done anything similar with speakers or headphones
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app
Lollipop - Any Improvements?
Has anyone been able to get USB Audio working in a Lollipop ROM given the improvements to USB host?
So far, no luck for me:
KatKiss Lollipop 5.1 #21 ROM
JBL Pebbles USB Speakers connected to the dock
My tablet recognizes there is a USB audio device as the audio stops after connecting.
Also, disabling auto routing of audio to USB audio devices does what it supposed to do - so detection works.
Connecting the headphones out to the aux in of the USB speaker didn't work. Tablet speakers shut off but no sound in the USB speakers.
I could get it to work is powering the speakers from an AC charger and using the tablet headphone out to it.
Also, USB Audio Tester app works in that it can detect the USB device and it was able to play audio out of it (tested via connecting int mic to ext speaker mode and raising the volume bars).
To my understanding from the developer's description, that app uses non-standard interface to output USB audio.
The speakers work fine on Windows and Chrome OS without drivers so I was hoping it was plug and play.
Update:
I did note that I had to raise the in-app playback control volume bars first though to work in USB Audio Tester app.
Also, when connected to a computer and using the Aux In of the speakers, my phones and tablet can play audio.
Based on power draw of a USB charger I connected, the speakers use 0.6W idle and about 1W max.
Therefore, I'm thinking maybe it fails the USB enumeration in Android and the default 100mA is not enough.
Anyone know how to check the USB host enumeration settings?
phioschaos said:
Has anyone been able to get USB Audio working in a Lollipop ROM given the improvements to USB host?
So far, no luck for me:
KatKiss Lollipop 5.1 #21 ROM
JBL Pebbles USB Speakers...
...Also, USB Audio Tester app works in that it can detect the USB device and it was able to play audio out of it (tested via connecting int mic to ext speaker mode and raising the volume bars).
To my understanding from the developer's description, that app uses non-standard interface to output USB audio...
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Since we are talking about USB HOST, maybe it's important to use USB OTG cable, I reckon, as not all USB cables are equal. This has just recently struck me, because I used USB cable that came with my soundcard the other day. Its of great quality, sure, but I'm almost positive it's not OTG. My audiocard is externally powered, so on the other hand it might be just unimportant in my case...
USB Speakers of all sorts have generic DACs in them that require no special drivers and have to work out of the box on any system as long as USB connection and standard USB functionality are intact. Success stories of USB Audio working under Lollipop are rather abundant.
If USB Audio Tester works for you then USB Audio Player PRO should too, those are made by the same guys AFAICT. UAPP is no free app though, costs a sum, and sadly its proprietary driver(yeah, those devs apps use "non-standard interface") only works inside the program, one cannot watch Youtube or MX Player by using that... Compatibility list is on the devs site. My card, E-MU 0404 USB is listed as compatible for only RECORDING, not playback. Heck, I'm absolutely certain, I saw someone on some forum claiming they got same card totally working under UAPP and that wasn't even on Lollipop! Anyway, my trial and error continues...
I don't have a USB OTG cable for the TF101.
Instead, I'm using the keyboard dock that provides two USB ports.
It should be the same thing.
It is very good to hear that USB audio is working for a lot of people on Lollipop.
I've tried testing my speakers on more Android devices - my Nexus 5 and Samsung Galaxy Tab S.
Like the TF101, the speakers are detected as the OS switches over (no more audio out of built in speakers) but no sound out of the speakers themselves.
I'm leaning towards these speakers are not compatible with Android yet.
Sigh - non-standard standards.

[Q] USB-micro USB 5 pin for car mode?

Are there any aftermarket USB to micro-USB cables with the shorted 4/5 pins that will activate the S4 and put it into car mode?
And are there any Y-cables with the shorted 5-pin micro-USB cable to activate car mode, AND output sound from the S4's micro-USB to a line out?
Basically the same cable that's sold with the iBolt? I'm just looking to buy the cable and not the entire dock/cable.
Okay I found this cable after reading a similar thread under the Note II subforum.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Charger...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item53f0a73387
Has anyone tried this for the S4 stock kernal yet?
Hmm seems iBolt sells it's own cable also.
http://www.iboltshop.com/iBOLT-charging-aux-out-Samsung-DockMode/dp/B009PN6APM
Hi,
this is the cable you're looking for:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/261278306020?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
when connected, switch S4 to Dock Mode, even if not connected to a power source.
I use in my car, in conjunction with Tasker to automate cardock mode.
Bye
Marco
marcolino7 said:
Hi,
this is the cable you're looking for:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/261278306020?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
when connected, switch S4 to Dock Mode, even if not connected to a power source.
I use in my car, in conjunction with Tasker to automate cardock mode.
Bye
Marco
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Does the cable put the S4 into car mode? I think there's a difference between car mode and dock mode right? A lot of the car dock programs like iBolt's own app can do certain things when it's in car mode (and not dock mode). I can turn on Dock Mode via settings or drop down notification menu, but there's no way to turn on Car Mode. Funny thing is, the CarHome app turns on Car Mode when it launches even without a cable.
solara1973 said:
Does the cable put the S4 into car mode? I think there's a difference between car mode and dock mode right? A lot of the car dock programs like iBolt's own app can do certain things when it's in car mode (and not dock mode). I can turn on Dock Mode via settings or drop down notification menu, but there's no way to turn on Car Mode. Funny thing is, the CarHome app turns on Car Mode when it launches even without a cable.
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Hi,
connecting the cable, your phone will go in Dock Mode, and I setup stock option of the Phone to do Nothing when dock cable is connected.
Then I setup Tasker, to detect when phone go in Dock Mode. With Secure Settings and Tasker I can put phone in Car Mode. Please note that Samsung's Car Mode, is not Android Native Cardock, so you need to workaround this.
Due this limitation i cannot use a Dock on My desk. This Because my phone will go in car mode when connected to a dock.
You can workaround this, if you have a Bluetooth Radio on the car.
With Tasker you can Detect Dock Cable and turn on Bluetooth, and trigge car mode when your car hands free will be connected.
Marco
So I ordered that USB cable from eBay and it works very well! It automatically puts the phone into Dock Mode when plugged in.
I have the phone set to launch CarHome Ultra when it goes into Dock Mode, and CarHome Ultra actually turns on Car Mode automatically when it launches. It can also be set to turn on the phone's Drive Mode if you want, and it turns on Bluetooth, and turns off WiFi also.
So now I just plug the phone into the USB charger, it launches CarHome Ultra automatically, turns on Car Mode and Bluetooth which then pairs with my car's bluetooth. I even have the home button working so that it goes back to CarHome Ultra when pressing the home button (using Xposed framework with EnableCarDock module on stock, rooted odexed Sprint S4).
Too bad my car's bluetooth is older and does not have the media playing profile so I can't stream the phone's sound via bluetooth. I'd either have to use the headphone out to the car's auxillary (works great but bluetooth phone can't be used when the headphone jack is in use - stupid Samsung!), or buy another bluetooth to auxillary device just for music/sound streaming, or buy iBolt's Y-cable (which many people seem to report poor sound quality or lots of noise).
The S2 Car Dock doesn't work with the S4
For the folks out there wondering whether an old original Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) car dock will work with the S4, assuming one could somehow shoehorn the S4 into it: Nope, It doesn't work. The S4 doesn't enter "Car Mode" as one would expect.
I didn't actually use a shoe horn - I took apart my old Galaxy S2 Car Dock and plugged the phone into the base once I had it separated from the holder.
I figure that Samsung either disabled the mode on the S4 or they changed the resistor value in the S4 so that it is different from the S2.
... or my S2 car dock is dead (unlikely).
It is frustrating that Samsung hasn't released a "proper" Car Dock for the S4 yet, like the kind they had for the S2. The one they do sell is a rip-off and a PITA to use with it's separate "charger" and "holder". There are a few vendors out there with "active" car docks for the S4, but I haven't tried any yet.
The S4 kernel was not configured with Car Dock mode enabled. Most cables have a 635k resistor for car dock mode and won't work on the S4. Only home dock mode is enabled and needs a 320k resistor (values might be different).

USB DAC

Hi there,
Anyone tried with USB DAC?
I tried, I can manage my Soundblaster E5 settings, but no sound. Same with USB audio player Pro and Deezer etc.
USB option (in developer options) enables the USB sound.
Any idea?
Second issue:
Soundblaster E5 has BT/NFC connect possibility. With my old phone (Asus Zenfone 2) was able to wake up the DAC with NFC, after I touched the phone to the DAC. Huawei Mate 9 isn't able to do it.
Hi, I'm having the exact same issue with another usb dac. Did you find a solution?
Swordhun said:
Hi there,
Anyone tried with USB DAC?
I tried, I can manage my Soundblaster E5 settings, but no sound. Same with USB audio player Pro and Deezer etc.
USB option (in developer options) enables the USB sound.
Any idea?
Second issue:
Soundblaster E5 has BT/NFC connect possibility. With my old phone (Asus Zenfone 2) was able to wake up the DAC with NFC, after I touched the phone to the DAC. Huawei Mate 9 isn't able to do it.
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I have a sound Blaster E3 and dac work as it should. USB otg must be at phone side. If you use provided otg cable on dac. It will not work. I used a small micro USB to USB C head to connect the micro USB otg cable to mate 9.
bibiner said:
I have a sound Blaster E3 and dac work as it should. USB otg must be at phone side. If you use provided otg cable on dac. It will not work. I used a small micro USB to USB C head to connect the micro USB otg cable to mate 9.
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What did you set up for USB CONNECT MODE? MTP, just charge etc?
Any settings in developer settings or so?
I tried with USB male - USB C OTG cable, with SB original cable + Huawei converter micro to usb c, not worked
snannart said:
Hi, I'm having the exact same issue with another usb dac. Did you find a solution?
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Not yet.
Anyone got a USB dac working? Which amp and which type c adapter/cable?
I have a Dragonfly Black and it worked perfectly with an Amazon USB-C OTG. I didn't change the setting for the connection type, it automatically identified it as a device that was a slave and supplied power to the DAC.
Mines a bone stock US model fwiw
My Mojo works fine using the USB-C to Micro adapter that came in the box of my Mate 9 Pro.
My Fiio e17 not work via otg cable
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Swordhun said:
What did you set up for USB CONNECT MODE? MTP, just charge etc?
Any settings in developer settings or so?
I tried with USB male - USB C OTG cable, with SB original cable + Huawei converter micro to usb c, not worked
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Ops. Seem like my notification not working. Sorry for some late reply. Mine do not appear any option. It certainly do if I plug it the other way around which make the dac not working but prompt the mtp and charge option.
My Fiio E17K works flawlessly with an OTG cable I found on Amazon.
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cbassohai said:
My Fiio E17K works flawlessly with an OTG cable I found on Amazon.
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I can't link but it's a:
Meenova
4.6 out of 5 stars 17 Reviews
USB Type-C-to-MicroUSB OTG Cable for connecting Camera/DAC/Media Player/Game Controller/Portable Hard drive/MIDI to Smartphone/Tablet/Computers
$7.99 USD
So I played around a bit with my S.M.S.L. idol+ today and found the following:
Neutron Music Player (Eval) works fine
USB Audio Player Pro produces loud noise, none of the USB Tweaks work, neither does Bit Perfect turned on and changing the buffer size results in the Player failing to play the songs. It doesn't make a difference if I try to play 64kb/s MP3 or 24bit FLAC..
Poweramp recognizes the DAC and seems to play but the headphones stay silent. Strange enough one time after trying some things with USB Audio Player Pro, Poweramp suddenly worked fine. I couldn't reproduce that though.
So of course I could use Neutron Player but I don't really like the interface and since I already bought USB Audio Player Pro and Poweramp and it seems to be a configuration issue, I would prefer using one of these.
So if anyone has an idea what else I could try, I would really appreciate any help

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