SwitchMe - share your device!
SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple user spaces just as you would on a desktop computer, with each profile having its own separate system settings, apps and data.
Some of the benefits of this technology:
Privacy
Securely share one device among many users, protect your accounts with passwords and log out automatically.
Kids
Create a profile for the kids, with only the apps and access you feel comfortable with.
Gaming
Overclock your profile for maximum performance in intensive games
Speed
Imagine a buttery smooth profile, with no kids games, messengers or bloatware to slow things down.
Testing
Create a sandbox profile to easily test applications and themes - no more nandroid nightmares!
Battery
Switch to a profile which only contains the essentials to save power through brute force.
Critical usage warning:
Incorrect use of this application can potentially harm your device. Before proceeding with use we strongly recommend that you perform a full nandroid backup through the device recovery.
READ THE HELP FILE CAREFULLY TO AVOID ISSUES
Without the Key, this application allows a maximum of 2 profiles and no security features.
Only the standard Android implementation of Apps2SD is currently supported. Use all others at your own risk.
Most devices should be compatible as long as they have enough free internal memory to create secondary profiles. The application will warn users if available memory is low.
Stay tuned for new features, and please rate the application by pressing the star button on the main screen - good ratings help us improve and expand functionality!
Market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.switchme
The free version only allows the creation of two profiles and has no security features.
Screens:
Great idea, thanks! Any chance the future versions will not need to reboot in order to sandbox into another account?
When using fast switch, the pseudo-reboot will take no more than 10 seconds.
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<-- already in USE .... on TWO DEVICES (( Samsung tablet and Asus tablets)
can highly recommend = worth the price !!
Cheers
ftgg99 said:
When using fast switch, the pseudo-reboot will take no more than 10 seconds.
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Thanks. So what does "May cause strange behavior" exactly mean in this case?
Issues with multiple languages, wallpaper and screen orientation are possible, though to be honest they are minor.
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Cool, it works, but switching to an almost empty profile takes 30 sec, to my default one - 90. Will have to suffice for now, hope it could be faster in the future, but it's nice to have this. No issues in this mode.
d14b0ll0s said:
Cool, it works, but switching to an almost empty profile takes 30 sec, to my default one - 90. Will have to suffice for now, hope it could be faster in the future, but it's nice to have this. No issues in this mode.
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The first time you switch between any 2 profiles FS will be disabled, after that switching will be much quicker.
Still 30 / 90 (including the launcher). Not that I'm complaining..
I'm at work, so forgive me for being lazy and not just trying this, but I'm interested for using my tablet and handing to the kids (3 year old twins). My main concern is locking out the dialer as they have accidentally made numerous phonecalls. Is this possible?
Chief Geek said:
I'm at work, so forgive me for being lazy and not just trying this, but I'm interested for using my tablet and handing to the kids (3 year old twins). My main concern is locking out the dialer as they have accidentally made numerous phonecalls. Is this possible?
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You can lock out whatever you want or make any other changes through apps. For example, install TB in a new profile and freeze whatever apps you want. Or install a locking app and do it that way.
This app simply creates profiles - their maintenance is down to you.
Interesting. So if I flash something, but it's avail to both, but if I install something under one profile, it's only available to that profile. Very interesting concept. With the advent of tablets such as the transformer series with physical KB, and the lines are quickly blurring between pc, tablet, and and even phone. Your paving the way for a whole new area of apps and for that I applaud your efforts.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
Err... thanks
If you like it, rate it on the Play Store - that's the best kind of applause!
Chief Geek said:
I'm at work, so forgive me for being lazy and not just trying this, but I'm interested for using my tablet and handing to the kids (3 year old twins). My main concern is locking out the dialer as they have accidentally made numerous phonecalls. Is this possible?
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Chief Geek, have a look at Seal or App Protector.
Really like this, wanted to buy full version. Problem is I'm only able to pay for apps in play store using EURO. This app is delivered using USD. Don't know anything about the payment in play store but perhaps it's also possible to pay using EURO
The price will be the same...
know that the the price is the same, but i am technically not able to pay for an app which will be sold using USD. I'm not using a credit card but using my mobile communication bill to pay in play store. And for that it is only allowed to pay for apps using EURO (this is a limitation of my mobile communication provider)
I see. Nothing to be done but use a credit card I'm afraid - we only retail in USD.
Switched to the Infinity (not through Best Buy method, btw),just wanted to +1 this app here. Will install the app after checkups and unlock/rooting...
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Great App. Working fine.
Related
Hi everyone. Im one of the developers of SwitchMe, and app that allows multiple secure logins into separate installations of android on a single device. The pr is after the break.
I really need a few people to check into some issues people on the Transformer have been experiencing. There are some warnings involved:
- testers must perform a full nandroid backup before using the app, it is not our responsibility if you start getting boot loops
- if you report results or bugs, please use the "Write to us" function in the app whenever possible, and always describe the issue in the header of the logs you send
- if you post here, be sure to include your device type and rom
- if you have apps installed on sd, be sure to mention that as well
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SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple installations of Android just as you would on a desktop computer.
The technology behind SwitchMe saves all of your applications and data, protects it and stores it as a file in memory. You can then log out of an
account and log into a fresh installation of Android or another account with its own unique content.
You may create as many profiles as the memory is capable of holding. Some of these may require very little free memory because they contain few apps,
others will be larger as they contain many applications and lots of cache and data.
Why is this functionality useful?
Privacy - the most obvious benefit is that you can securely share one device among multiple users, which gives you privacy and peace of mind.
Testing - if you are a developer, you can use profiles as clean sandboxes to test your applications and their interaction with the system.
Gaming – with multiple installations of Android on a single device, you can now play online MMOs as different characters.
Speed - the games your kids play slow down your tablet, but with SwitchMe you can easily create profiles without games or instant messengers.
Battery life - when the battery is low but there are important emails or documents to edit later, switch to a profile which only contains these essentials.
These of course are only suggestions - there are plenty of other uses for the functionality SwitchMe offers.
Market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.switchme
The Lite version allows the creation of two profiles, enough to test on.
Screens:
Any issues to report or is everything working flawlessly as usual?
SwitchMe 1.2 has been rolled out and now includes a lockscreen replacement:
1.2
Added lock screen for logging in and out
More stable Fast switch implementation
Reworked UI colors
Now, its very important that we get some feedback on how this big new feature works, so please read up on it in the help and post your thoughts!
1.2.2 - HOTFIX 2
Reworked widget on qHD+ displays
Fixed widget text on HC and ICS
Fast switch improved on older devices
Anything at all? How is the lockscreen working?
ftgg99 said:
Anything at all? How is the lockscreen working?
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Do you have to buy the key to enable the lockscreen?
Yes, all security settings are available in the paid version. I guess im only asking for the opinions of those who bought the app...
the app takes way too switch back to an admin account (about 30 mins)
and randomly switches and soft-boots on any account
also is there any way to buy other than the android market
I have got it setup with 3 accounts, myself and my two kids. Works like a charm. Got the lockscreen enabled and there is a small disapointment. When booting the device it first shows the regular lockscreen, long enough to enter the system, and then the switchme lockscreen kicks in.
What i would realy love would be pictures with the account switch, both for lockscreen and widget.
The fast switching option scared me a bit. The display just goes black for a while, de pending on profile size. Is it in any way possible to get something going on the screen just to keep me a ease.
Regardless of the above i still find this one of the apps that make the difference......
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If you want to avoid the lock screen time after reboot, enable the key guard as well and it will be shown above the key guard!
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Will look into that. What else would be very usefull is if it would be possible to, even when creating a new profile, the switchme app would be injected. I wouldn't like to get stuck on a clean profile and no wifi around to install switchme.
Ofcourse i copied the apk to my microsd so i can always install it but then it is not licensed in tje new profile.
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The already copies itself...
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Where to? Didn't see it in new profile....
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Its threre.
Any issues to report?
1.4.3.7
Fixed device specific switch screen crashes and issues
Fixed UI bug in switch screen preferences
If anyohe had problems with superuser before, this should fix them. Please let me know if that is the case, its important we get some feedback here!
1.5.3.0
Enabled full support for MIPS and x86 architectures
Many root daemon code fixes and optimizations implemented
Everything ok with the latest build?
Any issues to report?
Anything to report?
Hi everyone. Im one of the developers of SwitchMe, and app that allows multiple secure logins into separate installations of android on a single device. The pr is after the break.
I really need a few people to check into some issues people on some roms have been experiencing. There are some warnings involved:
- testers must perform a full nandroid backup before using the app, it is not our responsibility if you start getting boot loops or whatnot
- if you report results or bugs, please use the "Write to us" function in the app whenever possible, and always describe the issue in the header of the logs you send
- if you post here, bes sure to include your device type and rom
- if you have apps installed on sd, be sure to mention that as well
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SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple installations of Android just as you would on a desktop computer.
The technology behind SwitchMe saves all of your applications and data, protects it and stores it as a file in memory. You can then log out of an
account and log into a fresh installation of Android or another account with its own unique content.
You may create as many profiles as the memory is capable of holding. Some of these may require very little free memory because they contain few apps,
others will be larger as they contain many applications and lots of cache and data.
Why is this functionality useful?
Privacy - the most obvious benefit is that you can securely share one device among multiple users, which gives you privacy and peace of mind.
Testing - if you are a developer, you can use profiles as clean sandboxes to test your applications and their interaction with the system.
Gaming – with multiple installations of Android on a single device, you can now play online MMOs as different characters.
Speed - the games your kids play slow down your tablet, but with SwitchMe you can easily create profiles without games or instant messengers.
Battery life - when the battery is low but there are important emails or documents to edit later, switch to a profile which only contains these essentials.
These of course are only suggestions - there are plenty of other uses for the functionality SwitchMe offers.
Market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.switchme
The Lite version allows the creation of two profiles, enough to test on.
Screens:
will this allow me to switch between ROMs, like a ROM manager?
No. It creates multiple installs of your base rom. There is an app called boot manager, but it will never support the fire...
ftgg99 said:
No. It creates multiple installs of your base rom. There is an app called boot manager, but it will never support the fire...
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Ah. Was hoping it was like Boot Manager. Damn.
Switchme seems to work as desired. I'm the only one using my fire tho so there isn't much need for it. Come to to think of it, it would keep people out of my account when its being passed around at my buddies house lol.
Why do you say boot manager will never have support on the kindle fire?
Considering their progress over the last year and a half - 6! new devices - it will take forever.
SwitchMe 1.2 has been rolled out and now includes a lockscreen replacement:
1.2
Added lock screen for logging in and out
More stable Fast switch implementation
Reworked UI colors
Now, its very important that we get some feedback on how this big new feature works, so please read up on it in the help and post your thoughts!
1.2.2 - HOTFIX 2
Reworked widget on qHD+ displays
Fixed widget text on HC and ICS
Fast switch improved on older devices
Dont forget to send LOGS WITH DESCRIPTIONS when you have issues!
RECREATE your problem, then send the logs via WRITE TO US!
Anything to report?
ftgg99 said:
Anything to report?
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I have a few ideas that should put this app to good use I've been meaning play with it for a while now. Going to be kinda busy during the week but I'll try to post any questions/issues if I come across any. If I don't get to it during the week, I will defiantly spend some time using it on the weekend
Thanks, i look forward to some feedback - for a developer good feedback in forums is much better than "doesnt work - 1 star" type reviews on the market.
1.4.3.7
Fixed device specific switch screen crashes and issues
Fixed UI bug in switch screen preferences
If anyohe had problems with superuser before, this should fix them. Please let me know if that is the case, its important we get some feedback here!
Anything to report regarding yesterday's release?
I couldn't get wifi to connect last week (only time i had to try it) I'll give it another go tonight. I did have a question about storage, if i have a game installed on my main profile and install it on a second profile, is the apk then located in 2 locations? The kindle fire is very limited on storage with no option of expandable storage
foxdog66 said:
I couldn't get wifi to connect last week (only time i had to try it) I'll give it another go tonight. I did have a question about storage, if i have a game installed on my main profile and install it on a second profile, is the apk then located in 2 locations? The kindle fire is very limited on storage with no option of expandable storage
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Yes, the apk will be used twice.
By the way we released a new app today some of you might also find useful, you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538222
PLEASE CHECK IT OUT AND BE KIND
Touch Blocker Beta - a simple but useful app that makes holding and using your device easier
There are two basic functions:
- create dead zones where touches do not register
- filter the screen when reading in low light
We are already in a relatively stable Beta release - whats left now is adding new features and making it all look pretty. You can follow this process at the thread here.
Please be sure to write suggestions - we are looking forward to engaging the community and building a useful and nifty application that many will enjoy!
Market link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fahrbot.apps.touchblocker
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Debugging
If you experience issues, the best way to help is by reproducing them and then clicking "write to us" - be sure to include a description of your error or we may not read the logs.
Hello, I just came across this thread and had to say something, I love your Switchme app. Me and my wife both use my fire and it was driving me crazy not being able to customize it how I wanted. Then I found your app in the market and was ecstatic to try it. It worked like a dream! Your latest update just added that little touch that made it sol worth it. Thank you so much for this function and smooth integration.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using CM9
matthewcb4 said:
Hello, I just came across this thread and had to say something, I love your Switchme app. Me and my wife both use my fire and it was driving me crazy not being able to customize it how I wanted. Then I found your app in the market and was ecstatic to try it. It worked like a dream! Your latest update just added that little touch that made it sol worth it. Thank you so much for this function and smooth integration.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using CM9
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Why thank you! The best way to show your appreciation is to leave a review on the market - good reviews help us add improvements faster!
1.5.3.1
Fixed issue with lock on boot
Fixed some rare crashes on lock screen
Fixed MIPS and X86 Key compatibility
I am creating this topic because I think we could use a thread dedicated to see what is safe to remove and what is not.
Right now it won't have much, but I plan to provide good info. please post what you have been able to remove and even what Bootloops phone or just causes problems.
ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE TRYING THIS! BOTH NANDROID AND TITANIUM BACKUP
Ways to Remove Unnecessary Apps
One way and my personal favorite is to use Titanium Backup. It can uninstall these apps but can also back them up.
Another way is to use a file manager that can access /system/app. this is one of the harder ways since it can get difficult to know what is what because it just gives package names. ex. com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd.apk is the T-Mobile TV app
Safe to remove NOTE: This is how they appear in Titanium Backup. Always make a backup both TiB and Nandroid before starting
Buddies now 1.0
Custimize homescreen 1.o
Email 1.0 (this is the widget not the android email app)
Game Base
Gmail
Google Play Books
Highlight
Home screen tips
Lookout
Media Hub
More for Me
News & Weather
Ocean Weather
Polaris Office
Pro Apps
Slacker Radio
Social Hub (app)
Social Hub (widget)
TeleNav GPS
TwLauncher (only if you have a replacement launcher. Ex. Adw, go, Zeam, ...)
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Unsafe to remove. Do not remove!
mediaprovider
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If you do remove something you shouldnt
If you can boot, then just restore the app you removed in titanium backup.
If you bootloop you got two options
1. Restore Nandroid backup in CWM (good thing I did a Nandroid backup, right?)
2. No Nandroid Backup, its not guarantied but you might be able to use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591601 . A factory reset/data wipe may be needed in stock recovery
I will try to see if I can post backup files in case some one does remove something they shouldn't.
mediaprovider.APK and .Odex: http://db.tt/EQquH1Zi
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I'll say it here again, "bloatware" is a misnomer of a term. Your phone will not work faster removing these applications. Personally I removed them because I didn't want to ever see the notification for them having an update in the store. Also, having them installed, but not running, has *zero* impact on your battery.
I point this out because if you're ever unsure about whether you should remove uninstall something, don't.
These are the apps I have personally chosen to uninstall or freeze, and my phone has worked flawlessly for several weeks:
Zinio
Yelp
Visual Voicemail (may be desirable to many, but if you use google voice it's not)
Telenav GPS (yes, your google maps gps will work just fine without it)
T-mobile Video Chat
T-mobile Name ID
T-mobile Mail
Slacker
Netflix
More for Me
MobileLife Family
Media Hub
Lookout Security (the app didn't even work for me so I found it useless)
Linear
Pro Apps
Kies air
Highlight
Game Base
Bonus Apps
411 & More
Personally, I always selected "make a backup" with TitaniumBackup Pro before removing an app, and if TBP ever gave the warning message about that app not being deodexed, I instead chose to freeze it.
Cirkustanz said:
I'll say it here again, "bloatware" is a misnomer of a term. Your phone will not work faster removing these applications. Personally I removed them because I didn't want to ever see the notification for them having an update in the store. Also, having them installed, but not running, has *zero* impact on your battery.
I point this out because if you're ever unsure about whether you should remove uninstall something, don't.
These are the apps I have personally chosen to uninstall or freeze, and my phone has worked flawlessly for several weeks:
Personally, I always selected "make a backup" with TitaniumBackup Pro before removing an app, and if TBP ever gave the warning message about that app not being deodexed, I instead chose to freeze it.
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True, it won't affect your phone much to remove these apps, but some of these still run in the background. I personally do this because I feel my phone runs a bit better and I just don't want them on my phone. I'm doing it for those who want to remove stuff but don't know what can be.
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You think those apps, "run in the background?" The majority of those apps, and probably more, don't even load up at all, much less "in the background" unless the user of the phone INSTRUCTS THEM TO.
And you put twlauncher in the "safe to remove" category? If ADW, LauncherPro, or whatever else a person is using crashes or gets corrupted, good luck!
This thread just shouldn't exist, the information has already been posted, in the thread where the instructions to even allow it to be done in the first place.
Cirkustanz said:
You think those apps, "run in the background?" The majority of those apps, and probably more, don't even load up at all, much less "in the background" unless the user of the phone INSTRUCTS THEM TO.
And you put twlauncher in the "safe to remove" category? If ADW, LauncherPro, or whatever else a person is using crashes or gets corrupted, good luck!
This thread just shouldn't exist, the information has already been posted, in the thread where the instructions to even allow it to be done in the first place.
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Look, on my phone, lookout mobile along with Telenav and a few others still loaded on the memory. What I'm trying to do is something helpful for the blaze community.
If you have something against me, don't post it here. Pm me or bring it up with a moderator. If you want to post something help, please do so. ( I appreciate the fact that you reminded me to include a warning about touch wiz launcher). This is an open community where we try to help each other, not argue.
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I removed touchwiz first. I use rootuninstaller to remove what I don't want.
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Cirkustanz said:
I'll say it here again, "bloatware" is a misnomer of a term. Your phone will not work faster removing these applications. Personally I removed them because I didn't want to ever see the notification for them having an update in the store. Also, having them installed, but not running, has *zero* impact on your battery.
I point this out because if you're ever unsure about whether you should remove uninstall something, don't.
These are the apps I have personally chosen to uninstall or freeze, and my phone has worked flawlessly for several weeks:
Zinio
Yelp
Visual Voicemail (may be desirable to many, but if you use google voice it's not)
Telenav GPS (yes, your google maps gps will work just fine without it)
T-mobile Video Chat
T-mobile Name ID
T-mobile Mail
Slacker
Netflix
More for Me
MobileLife Family
Media Hub
Lookout Security (the app didn't even work for me so I found it useless)
Linear
Pro Apps
Kies air
Highlight
Game Base
Bonus Apps
411 & More
Personally, I always selected "make a backup" with TitaniumBackup Pro before removing an app, and if TBP ever gave the warning message about that app not being deodexed, I instead chose to freeze it.
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Your comment is completely untrue - Android is an operating system; just like any other - Windows, Linux, iOS, etc...
By removing applications that run in the backround and take critical memory (RAM) you instantly make your phone run faster...many of these applications run in the backround and the only way to stop them is to:
* Freeze them
* Uninstall them
THUS - removing applications that aren't vital to a user; and are taking system resources away; instantly speeds your phone up...not only do you free ram but you also take away applications which are using processor power...
...your comment couldn't be further from the truth and has no form of logic to it...sorry to bust your bubble.
...and don't get your panties in a wad and upset because someone has called you out and clearly disagrees with your flawed train of thought over the matter
SOOO removing applications that are junk, that you don't want...bloatware, etc - WILL speed up your phone...
Although one program can be considered bloatware to one user, and vital to another - I prefer the term "junkware" - just like Windows (Microsoft); the companies get kick backs for installing software...(T-Mobile)
michaelstigers said:
Your comment is completely untrue - Android is an operating system; just like any other - Windows, Linux, iOS, etc...
By removing applications that run in the backround and take critical memory (RAM) you instantly make your phone run faster...many of these applications run in the backround and the only way to stop them is to:
* Freeze them
* Uninstall them
THUS - removing applications that aren't vital to a user; and are taking system resources away; instantly speeds your phone up...not only do you free ram but you also take away applications which are using processor power...
...your comment couldn't be further from the truth and has no form of logic to it...sorry to bust your bubble.
...and don't get your panties in a wad and upset because someone has called you out and clearly disagrees with your flawed train of thought over the matter
SOOO removing applications that are junk, that you don't want...bloatware, etc - WILL speed up your phone...
Although one program can be considered bloatware to one user, and vital to another - I prefer the term "junkware" - just like Windows (Microsoft); the companies get kick backs for installing software...(T-Mobile)
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Samsung has actually optimized CPU and RAM quite well. Most of the "bloatware" does not take CPU or RAM, and some due. Removing them does not make a noticible difference on this phone, although on some past Samsung models it did.
And not to get off topic, but you can frame 'corrections' in a appropriate tone and not accuse him/her of being void of logic. Which wasn't even true.
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Bulletblitz27 said:
Samsung has actually optimized CPU and RAM quite well. Most of the "bloatware" does not take CPU or RAM, and some due. Removing them does not make a noticible difference on this phone, although on some past Samsung models it did.
And not to get off topic, but you can frame 'corrections' in a appropriate tone and not accuse him/her of being void of logic. Which wasn't even true.
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...if it quacks like a duck; and looks like a duck; and has logic like a duck - well, then it should swim in a pond, not be wrong; and give me no reason to correct it...
And you clarified my point even further - "most"...thanks
My posting was simply made so people were not under the WRONG assumption that taking a few minutes to get junkware off their O/S wouldn't make a difference. It will actually save a good amount of system resources; and give a much more rich experience that Google intended...
michaelstigers said:
...if it quacks like a duck; and looks like a duck; and has logic like a duck - well, then it should swim in a pond, not be wrong; and give me no reason to correct it...
And you clarified my point even further - "most"...thanks
My posting was simply made so people were not under the WRONG assumption that taking a few minutes to get junkware off their O/S wouldn't make a difference. It will actually save a good amount of system resources; and give a much more rich experience that Google intended...
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No, actually I did not clarify your point. My point was in contrast with yours. Rooting the phone has many other benefits than possibly speeding up a phone that's already optimized in this respect.
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Who cares. No one should.
The amount of time "saved" from "freeing up resources" so the phone can "have as rich of an experience as Google intended" is much less than the time it took for either one of us to write our posts, or for any would-be person to read them.
It's a dead issue, do whatever you want. Including having some silly opinion.
Bulletblitz27 said:
No, actually I did not clarify your point. My point was in contrast with yours. Rooting the phone has many other benefits than possibly speeding up a phone that's already optimized in this respect.
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1 thing that we need to remember, is that this message board is not for arguing our points. How about we simply agree to disagree over this matter? You clearly are not going to see it my way - and I clearly believe that taking junkware/bloatware is clearly beneficial to the phone.
I have seen it in action on many android phones that I have serviced, and I also saw how removing junkware off of my personal blaze freed up a lo of memory.
What we should do is now let users of the thread that have seen 2 different peoples point of view make up their minds for themselves. If we continue to go back and forth it does nothing but take up valuable space here on the thread and does a disservice to the users...a healthy debate and conversation is good / but this is beginning to become toxic and redundant!
Thanks for a different point of view however and no hard feelings
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I could not have agreed more, and thanks for not taking a lot of offense to what I said.
Personally I am 1 that is always messing with my phone, so I put more time into it than most people ever would...gotta love ADHD and Ritalin
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i wouldn't get rid of the default Gallery app (Gallery3D.apk) it seems like for some reason you can't set a Lock screen wallpaper it only has Wallpaper gallery as an option but if i want to set a Home screen wallpaper i can choose from Live wallpapers, Quickpic Wallpaper (an gallery app i downloaded), & Wallpaper gallery.
With Gallery installed the Lock screen options are Gallery & Live wallpapers and when i tap on Gallery i get a bunch of options including the Quickpic and i set that as default and when i go to Quickpic and say "set as" i get options to set as Home screen or Lock screen wallpaper now as i didn't before without Gallery installed
So yeah not sure why i need the default Gallery app to set Lock screen wallpaper but whatever
Use autoresizewallpaper instead..don't need the stock gallery..I got rid of mine
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'bloat' and boot...
Removing 'bloatware' from an android (linux) environment will only effect boot time (phone will be fully booted/usable faster). As it is so often pointed out in forums, once an app is cached (most of the time this happens during boot) it is not using cpu cycles and thus not eating away at any battery life (the RAM will have the same power draw whether it is being used or not) - that is until that app is opened (as any running app will use battery). So if you are looking for a more responsive phone removing bloat isn't going to help - you are literally better off buying a more powerful phone. However I can attest to removing bloat and speeding up boot times from using a 1st gen Exhibit 4g. Removing the 'bloat' decreased my boot time on my exhibit by 10-15 seconds! But beyond speeding up boot times there is no real reason to remove 'bloat' (unless you just don't want those crappy apps on your phone). Let's not get on a tangent on ram cleaners (task killers) please... as they are worthless and do eat away at battery life (as the os realizes it needs to re-cache those apps...) :victory:
anactoraaron said:
Removing 'bloatware' from an android (linux) environment will only effect boot time (phone will be fully booted/usable faster). As it is so often pointed out in forums, once an app is cached (most of the time this happens during boot) it is not using cpu cycles and thus not eating away at any battery life (the RAM will have the same power draw whether it is being used or not) - that is until that app is opened (as any running app will use battery). So if you are looking for a more responsive phone removing bloat isn't going to help - you are literally better off buying a more powerful phone. However I can attest to removing bloat and speeding up boot times from using a 1st gen Exhibit 4g. Removing the 'bloat' decreased my boot time on my exhibit by 10-15 seconds! But beyond speeding up boot times there is no real reason to remove 'bloat' (unless you just don't want those crappy apps on your phone). Let's not get on a tangent on ram cleaners (task killers) please... as they are worthless and do eat away at battery life (as the os realizes it needs to re-cache those apps...) :victory:
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Look, we dont need any more of those kind of posts. I understand it wont affect much, but some do want to remove certain apps like myself. I have wanted to rename post to safe to remove apps, but i dont know how to do that. Unless you have something to contribute to this, dont post things like those apps arent bloatware or that they dont do anything to affect performance. We are trying to help each other out.
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no offence please
abraham.ramirez said:
Look, we dont need any more of those kind of posts. I understand it wont affect much, but some do want to remove certain apps like myself. I have wanted to rename post to safe to remove apps, but i dont know how to do that. Unless you have something to contribute to this, dont post things like those apps arent bloatware or that they dont do anything to affect performance. We are trying to help each other out.
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Uh.. wha? I believe you misunderstood my post entirely. I never said that there is no point in removing 'bloatware'/preinstalled apps. The purpose of my post was only to inform. Please re-read my post (without bias). There's this false assumption that removing bloat will make a phone faster and it's just not true. Removing '411 & more' & 'netflix' is NOT going to make my quadrant score higher or give me more FPS playing games.
I may be over-generalizing here but this is what I have come to understand in regards to Android:
Need more storage & want faster boot times? ---> remove bloat/preinstalled apps.
Want better battery life? --> buy extended battery, adjust screen brightness to lowest viewing level.
Want a faster phone? ---> get a custom rom with OC/buy setcpu and OC or buy a faster phone.
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Uh.. wha? I believe you misunderstood my post entirely. I never said that there is no point in removing 'bloatware'/preinstalled apps. The purpose of my post was only to inform. Please re-read my post (without bias). There's this false assumption that removing bloat will make a phone faster and it's just not true. Removing '411 & more' & 'netflix' is NOT going to make my quadrant score higher or give me more FPS playing games.
I may be over-generalizing here but this is what I have come to understand in regards to Android:
Need more storage & want faster boot times? ---> remove bloat/preinstalled apps.
Want better battery life? --> buy extended battery, adjust screen brightness to lowest viewing level.
Want a faster phone? ---> get a custom rom with OC/buy setcpu and OC or buy a faster phone.
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Okay, i see now. Sorry bout that. You are right. I have seen the same pattern with android that you describe and that is why i removed a few things from my phone
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I'm looking for something that will have a few features
1. Remote location including turning on GPS
2. Remote phone locking/ turning off mobile and data connections
3. Prevent access to security settings
4. Prevent easy uninstallation of the app.
I think most parental control apps should fulfill this, but I'm struggling (on my phone) to get honest pricing details, what is "free" from the play store then seem to require monthly subscription.
Does anyone have any experience of these apps, and can maybe recommend one with a single payment (or even really free)
Where's my droid was great for location, but too simple to remove
Thanks
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They all will be monthly subscriptions and to be honest any kid with internet access will be able to get around it. As a test I tried everyone I could find on my 12yr old sons devices. And within a few days they had it disabled. And they are not really all that tech savy. When I asked them about it they just said they searched the internet and found out how to remove it.
Wayne Tech Nexus
Maybe I've found a part solution? Installed where's my droid pro and set as administrator, then applock used to lock itself and settings. Might work?
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It depends on. How bad they want to get rid of it. A simple wipe will remove it.
Wayne Tech Nexus
When I was in college I was an admin on one of our development labs. CS 1.6 by then was a plage there, most of the people spent more time playing it than coding. I removed everybody's permission to install software, they just used a portable version. I downsized their quota to about 50mb, they put it on the shared drives our university had. I downsized their quota there as well, so they shared the files over their quotas do get the full game there again. I made a script to search and delete the game files hourly, they had the game patched, so the files had names my script could not find. It was 2003, they did it as freshmen, and none was really skilled, and after looking at someone's browse history I just found what they used to deceive me. After that I gave up, printed a poster asking them to play only after 5 pm (when the classes ended). If you accomplish to have parental control on a kid's smartphone is just a matter of time and interest on the little guy/girl's part to have it circumvented.
At least if he finds a way around it he'll have learnt something
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So here's the deal, my gf's kid is gonna get a tablet for Xmas. We ordered him a Toshiba Excite GO AT7. Now when he is grounded he can't play any games what-so-ever. But we still want him to use the tablet for school related work. So I figured I'd just make another user with app restrictions on the tablet and let him use that account when he's grounded. But what's to keep him from switching to the other user account? Do I have to change the password on the unrestricted account to stop him from using it when he's grounded? If so then that's fine but I figured I better ask the fine people at XDA to see if they had a better idea. What do you guys think?
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So here's the deal, my gf's kid is gonna get a tablet for Xmas. We ordered him a Toshiba Excite GO AT7. Now when he is grounded he can't play any games what-so-ever. But we still want him to use the tablet for school related work. So I figured I'd just make another user with app restrictions on the tablet and let him use that account when he's grounded. But what's to keep him from switching to the other user account? Do I have to change the password on the unrestricted account to stop him from using it when he's grounded? If so then that's fine but I figured I better ask the fine people at XDA to see if they had a better idea. What do you guys think?
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It really depends on the kid; if you know you can trust him not to play games when he's not allowed to, a password and/or alternate user profile may not be necessary.
However, if you are pretty sure he will try something, you have a couple of options.
Your first option would be creating another user profile (like you said), disabling all the apps you don't want to be used, ane then locking the regular user profile (and NOT making the password easy to crack or available to the child.
Secondly, you could also install an alternate launcher (i.e., ADW) on your main profile and then using its customization features to lock the games from launching with a password/PIN. I would only use this if you are planning on permanently limiting your child's gaming on his tablet, because every time he wants to play he'll have to come to either you or his mother.
Hopefully this helps you out! :good: