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Having received my transformer this morning, all I can say is i love it! however, there are definitely a few issues that are bugging me;
1. the build quality. i constantly feel where the outer rim and the back casing are supposed to join, but dont and its a constant remind of its quality
2. the dock. its brilliant but the putting the tablet into the dock is so annoying and im afraid I may end up breaking the mechanism on the dock. which leads me to my next point...
3. connectivity. the tablet actually has about as much connectivity as an ipad, which is a REAL shame. would it have been so difficult to implement a micro/usb port onto the tablet? i appreciate the sd card slot but personally I'd have preferred the micro/usb than the sd card, but hey atleast the sd card works! you cannot really experience the transformer properly without the keyboard dock so when docking the tablet I am extremely cautious incase i do do some damage.
4. trackpad. the two buttons on the trackpad also feel really cheap when pressing. I suppose this is to be expected when paying as little I have for this tablet.
My final issue, for now, is the constant freezing of the keyboard which i believe has been addressed in a firmware update in the US and not in the UK. Would be nice to get it soon! anyone know when we brits get this update, and any other update there is floating around??
there is a USB port adapter being released by Asus in the near future. Also the trackpad feels real solid to me.
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there is a USB port adapter being released by Asus in the near future. Also the trackpad feels real solid to me.
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my buttons on the trackpad feel really plasticy but i guess thats to be expected. although iv not spent a great deal of time with the dock, guess ill have a more informed idea in a few days
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my buttons on the trackpad feel really plasticy but i guess thats to be expected. although iv not spent a great deal of time with the dock, guess ill have a more informed idea in a few days
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they feel like plastic but they feel robust and sturdy to me, or are you experiencing different issues?
happy with the trackpad buttons too..they're robust..
as for the docking mechanism..you'll get used to it eventually...and it's a lot easier to dock after being used for a while.
I have no problems that seriously bother me. If you don't like it there's always the option to return it. I would not keep something that bothers me that much!
I am just waiting to see if its a case of getting used to it, will only return as a very last resort because I'm very happy with the rest of the tablet as I'm sure the majority of transformer users are!
Dock is very solid. And it has usb ports so I'm confused about your review.
kashifnazir said:
I am just waiting to see if its a case of getting used to it, will only return as a very last resort because I'm very happy with the rest of the tablet as I'm sure the majority of transformer users are!
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Excellent choice! I think it has a lot of potential. Obviously, the hardware issues won't be resolved but the software will be splendid in a few months!
U say it has as much connectivity as an iPad yet I dont see a micro sd slot ,HDMI port, or a dock slot on the iPad, can u help me find it
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Dock is very solid. And it has usb ports so I'm confused about your review.
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i think he means why didnt they add a usb to the tablet as well so if you didnt buy the dock you could have a usb port. i think it would have been a nice feature especially on the left hand side of the tablet where the power and volume buttons are. i do like the dock option especially since it adds more battery life to the tablet.
^ Actually the iPad2 has a dock slot (smartass), it's just basically a keyboard, without any of the usefullness of the TF's dock.
The dock has USB ports, yes, but the tablet itself doesn't. I can see where kashifnazir is going with this; I'd like a USB port - even a micro/mini would do - on the tablet itself as well. If I wanted to just grab something of somone's USB stick, I might not necessarily what to root in my bag for the dock every time.
Regardless, it's relatively minor. The Transformer is still the portable computer I've been waiting for since tablets first hit the market.
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4. trackpad. the two buttons on the trackpad also feel really cheap when pressing. I suppose this is to be expected when paying as little I have for this tablet.
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I sort of noticed this issue too, but try this:
Press the trackpad button all the way out on the edge. Feels cheap doesn't it? Now press the button about halfway between the edge and the rubber bumper that the screen rests on when closed. Now, it feels almost better than some netbook trackpad buttons I've used.
My thoughts after some time on the TF
Charger: It appears that the charger is marginal at best and when used to charge the TF/Dock combo with medium battery remaining the charger overheats and either dies or shuts down until it cools. I have been charging separately and if lots of charging is needed, do it in increments. Seems to work fine. Excellent biz opportunity design a 15VDC 3.0a power supply with a USB3.0 female connector.
Dust: The plastic protective cover was covered with dust when I opened the box. Luckily nothing inside the TF. ASUS needs to revisit the assy and packaging cleanliness requirements.
UI: Would be nice to have option to move soft buttons from bottom to side of screen as they are easier to access when holding the device.
Case creek. My case is solid, but I noticed that the hinge on the dock is very stiff and I can see how opening and closing the combo by pushing on the TF could easily cause considerable stress on the case causing it to flex.
Overall for an early adopted device I am impressed.
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U say it has as much connectivity as an iPad yet I dont see a micro sd slot ,HDMI port, or a dock slot on the iPad, can u help me find it
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as some of the more eagle eyed readers have spotted, i was simply saying that id like a usb port on the tablet which is more useful than a hdmi and SD slot for me, thats all
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I sort of noticed this issue too, but try this:
Press the trackpad button all the way out on the edge. Feels cheap doesn't it? Now press the button about halfway between the edge and the rubber bumper that the screen rests on when closed. Now, it feels almost better than some netbook trackpad buttons I've used.
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yeh upon a bt more usage ive realised its more sturdy in the middle, just accustomised to using it on th edge but i can adapt
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Dock is very solid. And it has usb ports so I'm confused about your review.
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He meant on the tablet itself.
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as some of the more eagle eyed readers have spotted, i was simply saying that id like a usb port on the tablet which is more useful than a hdmi and SD slot for me, thats all
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We get that, but why didn't you buy an Acer A500 if having this feature was that important to you? I'm just curious
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Jocelyn said:
We get that, but why didn't you buy an Acer A500 if having this feature was that important to you? I'm just curious
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Excellent question, main reason was the display and the dock and having played with both I preferred this. However, I did also blindly expect it to have one but its ok, ill just get the USB accesory so life is good
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Excellent question, main reason was the display and the dock and having played with both I preferred this. However, I did also blindly expect it to have one but its ok, ill just get the USB accesory so life is good
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I understand, but from a business perspective, I think it would have been a horrible idea for Asus to include a USB/micro USB port on the tablet itself. They wouldn't have the potential to sell nearly as many docks, and getting consumers to buy both parts is how they've chosen to market the Transformer.
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Just wondering if the transformer could be plugged into the dock either way? As in can you also plug into the dock so that the screen is facing you while the keyboard is behind the screen. I would assume that you cannot but it would be nice if you could dock it both ways so that if you just want a stand and don't need the keyboard you could do it that way.
Man I hope the transformer prime does get released on the 9th and has sufficient stock! I was eagerly awaiting the original but after the crazyness trying to get one I just ended up getting a BBQ instead!
um.. no? you can use the dock as a stand the normal way as well.. just don't use the keyboard I do this quite often when watching videos. Well, I mean, I guess you could do it the other way if you wanted to break the pin connector? But assuming that you don't want to do that, no you can not do that.
Have fun with the Prime! I'll be watching it to see how the developers do with it.. won't be picking one up though.
No need to assume anything. Try to insert the charging cable into the port the "other way" and see if it will fit.
Thanks for the reply. Yah I figured the connection would only work one way.
Really its not a big deal but it would be nice so you could have the screen right at the edge of the table you are putting it on. Really no biggie but was just wondering.
I don't blame you for not making the upgrade. If I had the original I doubt I would pull the trigger on the Prime either.
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Thanks for the reply. Yah I figured the connection would only work one way.
Really its not a big deal but it would be nice so you could have the screen right at the edge of the table you are putting it on. Really no biggie but was just wondering.
I don't blame you for not making the upgrade. If I had the original I doubt I would pull the trigger on the Prime either.
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Yea that would be a good design if they had done that, I guess we need a separate case / stand for using it as a tablet for long periods without the dock
You should email ASUS with your idea
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Thanks for the reply. Yah I figured the connection would only work one way.
Really its not a big deal but it would be nice so you could have the screen right at the edge of the table you are putting it on. Really no biggie but was just wondering.
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Haha, I was gonna suggest getting an ipad2. While you still can't put in the connection backward with the ipad2, at least you know the best tablet on the market, the one that everyone wants, can't do this and so it's forgivable.
My experience in this is that people tend to complain about everything in a less popular tablet while turn a blind eye on ipad2 weaknesses. Take light bleeds, for example. People have been crying bloody murder about TF light bleeds since day one. Most ipad2 users don't even care about their ipad2 light bleeds. And let me tell you, all devices with ips display have light bleeds.
Actually, let me suggest it now. If you want to be able to insert the connection in backwards, buy an ipad2.
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Haha, I was gonna suggest getting an ipad2. While you still can't put in the connection backward with the ipad2, at least you know the best tablet on the market, the one that everyone wants, can't do this and so it's forgivable.
My experience in this is that people tend to complain about everything in a less popular tablet while turn a blind eye on ipad2 weaknesses. Take light bleeds, for example. People have been crying bloody murder about TF light bleeds since day one. Most ipad2 users don't even care about their ipad2 light bleeds. And let me tell you, all devices with ips display have light bleeds.
Actually, let me suggest it now. If you want to be able to insert the connection in backwards, buy an ipad2.
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eh? I was curious if the transformer had this functionality as I think it would be a nice additional function for the dock, nothing more.
No need to get worked up over a simple question!
BongoBong said:
eh? I was curious if the transformer had this functionality as I think it would be a nice additional function for the dock, nothing more.
No need to get worked up over a simple question!
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And I'm telling you, ipad 2 has this functionality. Just jam it in there LOL
I just called office Depot about seeing if they had the infinity in stock, and after about 3 minutes of searching the women says "no, but we do have the nexus infinity in stock" I laughed and said thank you, but golly I wish this tablet was true
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I just called office Depot about seeing if they had the infinity in stock, and after about 3 minutes of searching the women says "no, but we do have the nexus infinity in stock" I laughed and said thank you, but golly I wish this tablet was true
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Nice post to add to all the craziness right now. I love some of the dumb things you can find in retail.
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but golly I wish this tablet was true
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Amen to that. Out of the mouths of babes.
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but golly I wish this tablet was true
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I totally sign this. I really would love to have a 10" Nexus Tablet. With a dock.
I want a Nexus Infinity
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I totally sign this. I really would love to have a 10" Nexus Tablet. With a dock.
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I was just thinking how much I'd love to have a 7" infinity, with a dock.
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I was just thinking how much I'd love to have a 7" infinity, with a dock.
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Tiny keyes...hell no lol.
If there was a Nexus tablet with a 1080p screen and was 10", I'd be all over it.
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Tiny keyes...hell no lol.
If there was a Nexus tablet with a 1080p screen and was 10", I'd be all over it.
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I never said I wanted a 7" dock
With the extra bezel space (dock bezel, not tablet), I'd want speakers that were actually pointing at me, instead of away.
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I never said I wanted a 7" dock
With the extra bezel space (dock bezel, not tablet), I'd want speakers that were actually pointing at me, instead of away.
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Hmmm not a bad idea. Yet, the keys would probably still need to be smaller to fit that. Or a much larger dock that won't fit the 7" size very well.
I'm a form follows function kind of guy. If Asus would hear me out, I'd have them take a 100% (same size) dock, but with a lid, containing speakers on either side and a slot in the middle of the lid for the tmini to slide into. As an extra bonus it would be even less top-heavy and more stable on uneven surfaces. I grant you, it wouldn't be the prettiest package without some finnessing, but I'd still prefer it.
Asus thinks the same way every one else does (7" tab means 7" keyboard), or at least they will until my infinity ships, and a day later they'll announce my ideal device :crying:
C'est la vie :silly:
So before I start trying to make my own out of kydex and charging cable, does anyone know of any docks in exsistance other then that keyboard?
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So before I start trying to make my own out of kydex and charging cable, does anyone know of any docks in exsistance other then that keyboard?
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Went looking for one about a week ago, searched everywhere, no luck. Ended up getting this, very happy with it, well made.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...3&skuId=2861307&st=rocketfish stand&cp=1&lp=9
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megadirk said:
Went looking for one about a week ago, searched everywhere, no luck. Ended up getting this, very happy with it, well made.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...3&skuId=2861307&st=rocketfish stand&cp=1&lp=9
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I planned to pick through some generic stands like this one before starting, so its good to know if one worked. I like that it had the cutout for the plug, which is my biggest general complaint on alot of stands. $10 on amazon too, not bad. I would prefer something I could attach the plug so that I could just insert the tablet and not have to worry about the cable flipping back and forth and so on. Ideally I'd like one for each of my offices and one for home on the bedstand or home office desk. So that one for $10 is pretty tempting.
This is an interesting one. It looks poorly executed, but the idea seems pretty good in principal.
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/81...&cm_cat=AmzPrAds&cm_pla=AmzPrAds&cm_ite=81565
This one looks promising. It has a nice big base that I could carve into and place a dock cable, then silicoln it all into place.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-A-Frame-iPad-2/dp/B0050X54KS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_8
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This is an interesting one. It looks poorly executed, but the idea seems pretty good in principal.
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/81...&cm_cat=AmzPrAds&cm_pla=AmzPrAds&cm_ite=81565
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA NICE! Lazy2.0!
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This is an interesting one. It looks poorly executed, but the idea seems pretty good in principal.
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/81...&cm_cat=AmzPrAds&cm_pla=AmzPrAds&cm_ite=81565
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Haha...
Sorry, but I cant imagine who will use this except people not that physically fit
Might be good in a hospital tough.
Ethania said:
Haha...
Sorry, but I cant imagine who will use this except people not that physically fit
Might be good in a hospital tough.
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I hit the gym 5 days a week and I would use the hell out of this. But not like you see in the pic. I could use something like this in either my bedroom for movies or even playing games when using a wireless controller or my original thought was to set up behind my monitors and have my tablet "floating" about my wall of monitors on my desk at work.
Has anyone tried to watch a movie with wired headphones. You're in for a wonderful surprise. ASUS has greatly improved the headphone jack location. It is now at the bottom of the left side so now it no longer dangles when its in the dock.
I know this might be considered a small thing to some people, but it makes me really happy!
(Note this post has been slightly modified (censored) from the original to support the all important group consensus. In its original form I might have said something about the headphone jack being under the users hand and in a really awkard place, forcing me to do stupid things like use the tablet upside-down. But I have now been made to see the light! So this post is now pro-Infinity and non offensive: Cue the music of 2001 a Space Odyssey, with monkeys dancing around a great metallic monolith ...)
What's wrong with just rotating it 180 degrees?
Edit: I didn't see your statement on case. Would you show us an example where a case makes it hard to rotate it does not provide place to grip?
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qnfauf said:
What's wrong with just rotating it 180 degrees?
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Oh darn, silly me. I didn't realize - ASUS designed this tablet to be used upside down. Well, problem solved!
Sorry for the sarcasm - couldn't resist.
I just tried flipping my current case over - seems OK. Will have to try my Roocase upside down as well.
But I CAN see a problem switching out of movies to do work and then coming back. There are some apps that expect the tablet to be vertical and that might be a problem.
Bottom line, it just seems like an unecessary and almost laugable inconvenience (and a rather stupid one) on a so-called premium tablet.
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Oh darn, silly me. I didn't realize - ASUS designed this tablet to be used upside down. Well, problem solved!
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Wow, I don't even know why you are hostile toward me. I was just asking what's wrong with rotating it. Does it work or look different upside down?
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i hold my tablet with one hand thru the strap on the case. so the headphone jack placement is not an issue for me. even before i had the case, it still was not an issue.
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qnfauf said:
Wow, I don't even know why you are hostile toward me. I was just asking what's wrong with rotating it. Does it work or look different upside down?
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Don't mistake sarcasm for hostility. The purpose of sarcasm is to undercore the absudity of the situation created by ASUS, its not directed at you. I mean, I'm debating the pros and cons of using my tablet upside down. It just seems a little ridiculous.
timrock said:
i hold my tablet with one hand thru the strap on the case. so the headphone jack placement is not an issue for me. even before i had the case, it still was not an issue.
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That's a good idea. What case do you have? I have a Caseen, but the strap is horizontal, so I can only really put my hand through it in portrait. Pretty awkard to use in landscape.
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That's a good idea. What case do you have? I have a Caseen, but the strap is horizontal, so I can only really put my hand through it in portrait. Pretty awkard to use in landscape.
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i have the Moko.
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Just to play devils advocate here, I actually LIKE the placement of the headphone jack! Since I would leave the tablet docked when watching a movie (so I don't have to hold it the whole time), the location is kind of nice as the headphone wire doesn't "hang" down and get in the way like it would if the headphone jack were at the top of the device.... It stays out of the way...
Of course, that's because I have the dock - but then again, that's why I bought the Transformer - because of the dock - otherwise, I probably wouldn't buy as Asus Transformer tablet....
So, believe it or not, there are pros and cons to the location of the headphone jack!
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I would say its there so it can fit in the wedge shape of the Infinity and be mostly covered and not exposed like the Prime.
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Just to play devils advocate here, I actually LIKE the placement of the headphone jack! Since I would leave the tablet docked when watching a movie (so I don't have to hold it the whole time), the location is kind of nice as the headphone wire doesn't "hang" down and get in the way like it would if the headphone jack were at the top of the device.... It stays out of the way...
Of course, that's because I have the dock - but then again, that's why I bought the Transformer - because of the dock - otherwise, I probably wouldn't buy as Asus Transformer tablet....
So, believe it or not, there are pros and cons to the location of the headphone jack!
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You are 100% right sir. This is the reason it was moved and the device is much better for it. The primes placement was a pain in the arse.
Yeah, I guess they can't make everyone happy all of the time, right? It seems some people prefer the location and others do not.
But like I said, I would imagine that most people who buy a Transformer, but it because of the keyboard dock, so I would think that it's placement would be preferred for most people....
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I actually noticed the same with the hdmi jacket. It's in a quite bad position there and problem is that some videos don't rotate 180 otherwise this wouldn't be such a big deal
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Just to play devils advocate here, I actually LIKE the placement of the headphone jack! Since I would leave the tablet docked when watching a movie (so I don't have to hold it the whole time), the location is kind of nice as the headphone wire doesn't "hang" down and get in the way like it would if the headphone jack were at the top of the device.... It stays out of the way...
Of course, that's because I have the dock - but then again, that's why I bought the Transformer - because of the dock - otherwise, I probably wouldn't buy as Asus Transformer tablet....
So, believe it or not, there are pros and cons to the location of the headphone jack!
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Every other manufacturer just puts an audio out ON THE DOCK !
Its not a better solution to put the jack on the bottom where it blocks your hand. Any engineer worth his salt would have left the jack in the proper position and put an audio out/headphone jack on the dock instead.
Don't tell me lots of people haven't thought this already. I noticed this right away when I had the Prime - the audio cable dangles from the top of the tablet while its in the dock - so - did you think - yes lets move it to the bottom so now its under the users hand - which won't be a problem because he can just use it upside down - or do you think - lets put an audio jack on the dock itself - kind of basic.
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Every other manufacturer just puts an audio out ON THE DOCK !
Its not a better solution to put the jack on the bottom where it blocks your hand. Any engineer worth his salt would have left the jack in the proper position and put an audio out/headphone jack on the dock instead - don't tell me lots of people haven't thought this already. Its the first thing I thought on the Prime - the audio cable dangles from the top of the tablet while its in the dock - so - did you think - yes lets move it to the bottom so now its under the users hand - which won't be a problem because he can just use it upside down - or do you think - lets put an audio jack on the dock itself - kind of basic.
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Again, some people prefer it on the bottom - it's a personal preference and I'm obviously not the only one who would rather have it at the bottom.
Of course it would be better to have a headphone jack on both the dock and the tablet, but thats not the case. I just can't imagine holding my TF700 while watching a movie to begin with - I would always have it in the dock (or some other type of stand).
But, if you must hold the tablet while using headphones, simply hold onto it from the middle of the device instead of at the very bottom - I just don't see what the big deal is - I can hold it just fine with two hands, even with headphones plugged in!?!?
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I just can't imagine holding my TF700 while watching a movie to begin with - I would always have it in the dock (or some other type of stand).
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I imagine that, if you never hold the tablet in your hand while watching a movie, then it would not be a problem. I mean seriously - who buys a tablet to hold it anyway!
But for the extremely small minority that do hold the tablet while watching a movie.....
Sigh. I don't understand why people are so unbelievably accepting of a device's shortcomings. (Well actually I do - people interpret criticism of the product as an indictment of their decision to buy it - if they admit there is something wrong with the tablet they are tacitly admiting that they may have made a mistake)
-Yes the speaker sound isn't a problem..I always use external speakers anyway
-Yes the battery life isn't a problem..I'm always near a plug anyway
-Yes the bluetooth audio lag isn't a problem...I'll just use wired headphones
-Yes doctor you can cut off one of my fingers to use in a class demonstration.... I have four more anyway....
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Yes, I imagine that if you never hold the tablet in your hand while watching a movie than it would not be a problem. But for the extremely small minority that do hold the tablet while watching a movie.....
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Why can't you just put your hand right above the headphone jack in order to hold it with two hands?? The headphone jack is way at the bottom of the tab - I just don't see the problem - there is plenty of real-estate above the headphone jack to put your hands! It's certainly *nowhere near* "impossible" to hold with two hands as you say in the original post....
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I like the placement of the headphone jack... it stays out of the way. I've never liked having the jack on the other side or on the top.
Maybe your hands are just bigger (I'm average height), maybe just thread the wire through your fingers? Or flip it upside down. I don't think case design has to do with a tablet design "fault".
Some people buy the tablet, without the dock.
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This sounds more like a case of you can't please everybody and a personal preference deal. I perosbally like it where it is compared to the prime
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Digital Man said:
Oh darn, silly me. I didn't realize - ASUS designed this tablet to be used upside down. Well, problem solved!
Sorry for the sarcasm - couldn't resist.
I just tried flipping my current case over - seems OK. Will have to try my Roocase upside down as well.
But I CAN see a problem switching out of movies to do work and then coming back. There are some apps that expect the tablet to be vertical and that might be a problem.
Bottom line, it just seems like an unecessary and almost laugable inconvenience (and a rather stupid one) on a so-called premium tablet.
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Trust me. It is a losing argument. The blinders are om.